Hopefully soon there will be available aftermarket metal parts to replace those felt materials. this if you want offroading of course, for street run is ok even with that felt material.
Very usefu informations! Thank you for sharing. I wonder if the extreme version has the same protections of the journey version or it is better protected…
Just a 4x4 city car now. Even jogger had the rust treatment and the break lines were better protected. But that felt material is really good for sound insulation and small rocks won’t hit the underbelly which is provoking rust even on rust treated cars. But if time, effort and money are at hands, you can use those felt parts as stencils for the metal shielding. :)
well this was a surprise...and a sad one 😔....felt sheets underside ???? I honestly don't remember seeing that on any car ???? it will collect mud, water, get heavy and iced in winter, fall off for sure at certain situations......and that is supposed to protect brake piping ?????? it really looks like Duster 3 needs an immediate "belly lift" update ...but not by us ....by factory update instead.....as it looks now, it is just a semi product patched up for demo videos and car show rooms.....😪😡😭
Hi, I have some concerns about the new Dacia Duster. I haven't decided to order one yet. Your experience can help me decide. 1. Any disturbing noise or excessive vibration from the new 1.2 TCe engine different from the smooth 1.3 TCe? 2. Any lag or stalls between clutch and engine when changing gears? 3. Any downside of mild hybrid system when accelerating? 4. Any constant mechanical noise from the rear differential when cruising at constant speed such as 90 km/h? Thanks in advance.
That is only about offroading... you get on basic road at winter... its salted and wet when its freezing... that carpet gets wet and freezes. now you get into rural are that is not snowplowed properly... even getting to your parking spot right in front of your house you have not been in for few days and some snow fell on it meanwhile and froze... what will happen to that frozen carpet when it hits pile of frozen snow? that carpet will hold wetness there for a long time... basically helping rust to happen. This car is planned to be trashed soon... and that is sad cause finally duster seems nice... but as showed its not finished..... and welp im buying car now.. not in 2 years. and finding this out... welp it will very likely influence if I will ever consider dacia as whole in the future.
Bonjour , merci pour le partage de la vidéo , impressionnant , je pensais prendre un Dacia Duster ou Bigster mais maintenant je préfère aller voir la concurrence.
Yes, it’s the thick coating you typically see under cars. It’s like a very thick and slightly flexible coating. It offers a very good protection against rust and scratches from impact. It should be available in spray bottles.
I hope you upload a video with the mods you are going to do. I will have mine in 2 weeks! Also i would like to know if you know about some high load interior net, cos when i travel i need to load it to the roof.
@@DusterCoolTravels maybe the guys of 'Mudster' can find a solution for this. Also at the back, the cover must point upwards so it doesn't scoop up dirt in reverse. The cover design is good for all the other duster versions (1.2 2×4, lpg tce100 & hybrid 140) good noise réduction, better aerodynamics for the underbody. But they should've made a different design for the 4x4 also, no stonguard paint on the underbody for the 4x4 is not a good idea. Wouldn't make much of a price difference to my opinion.
No. It seems most of the cost of that car has gone to the electronics like cameras, tablet and other "beautiful graphics" for the comfort of the driver, but not on the really important places for off road
@@DusterCoolTravels unfortunately it looks they added some harmonic balancer to drive-shaft flange and that's it, internals are probably same (maybe friction discs will have better design but they have changed it over years and probably developed it to it's maximum potential), ABS is sharper more "inteligent" which could save some wear and tear on rear coupling but from my research when warning light starts flashing it only indicates that friction discs are expanding allowing for less slipping (ECU is only guessing temperature my diff has only 2 thin wires going into diff no temp sensor or anything else so it has to compare RPM's of each wheel when rear axle is getting more that 47% of power it knows coupling is heating up not allowing slipping in coupling) so if you overheat rear clutch you may not be able to switch into 2WD simply because there won't be enough space for clutch discs which will be forced together by heat expansion, so that would not bother me if I am offroading unless I need to turn around on hard surface.
On our Duster II 4x4 we have a sort of valve on the exhaust (close to engine) that sticks out and a sensor on the rear diff that sticks out. It is clear that both often get dragged when we offroad and the diff sensor now has an open wire which brings up a 4wd system issue when it gets wet (fixed this with vaseline which worked over a year now). At least it seems these issues were fixed on the new Duster. We often have a ground clearance issue when offroading in sand where the tracks are too deep and the bottom starts scraping on the sand. This is our only issue for getting across certain routes in Southern Africa. Maybe the felt can be covered with some fibreglass and also looks like it is not being tied down well enough in one or two places.
Don’t you have a skid plate for the valve? There are models that are fixed on the exhaust pipe. Best solution. I’ve used for 4 years on my previous duster and had no problems 💪
😂 it again confirmed that all new vehicles are made by accountants and not by engineers. The cardboard is cheap, sound deadening ,useless in wet and absolutely not protective in off-roading… 😢
I think thats how most euro boxes look these days. I agree that better under body protection is need for serious off road use. I suppose after market suppliers will jump on the shortfall and produce better solid skid plating. One thing that annoys me is the lack of any paint or protection on the wheel hub assembly which are already red with rust. If i end up buying the Duster i will be coating them with decent black paint and then much Lanoguard.
Wouldn't it be the easiest to just cover all these felt plates with a coat of resin - it will make it waterproof and stiff at the same time. Also - if one plans not to go offroading , should this type of coverage be considered as a deal breaker?
It is a deal breaker for offroading. As for the resin, I don’t know how stiff it would make the felt plates. They should protect the brake fluid pipes and the fuel pipes in case the car hits a rock.
Its my situation. Im gonna buy a car... I do not plant to go off-roading. just city and roads. but I want an SUV what means I want a 4x4 and be able to go off-roading IF chances comes. I really do like how dacia exterior looks, but I was sitting inside and driving it on test drive.... hell how cheap it all looks on inside and really uncomfortable... adding this on top, that they are basically planning to destroy my potentional chasis even going on roads (getting it wet and freeze and so on...) that I seriously am considering a Korando over Duster at same or even cheaper price.... . it does not look as good in exterior but compared to duster interior is pure luxury. and I can have 4x4 with automatic transmission that is also pretty damn capable at possible offroading. The only downside Korando has for me is that high consumption. like not damn high... 8,5-9 city, 8 roads, 10 highways... so yes, seeing this like this accumulating seems to be a pretty much deal breaker for me. looks like dacia is going way of apple.... making sure something breaks fast so stupid people will buy another very fast...
I@@DusterCoolTravelsI see. Well just give it a try with resin - maybe get from somewhere a few samples of felt and try different resins. Nevertheless - resin and a fibreglass used to be used for creating stiff furniture with crazy shapes. Till this day resin combined with fiberglass fabric scraps is used as a water insulation in buildings (for ex. at roofs). I believe these felt plates would get hard and durable with a certain amount of resin. At the end of the day, if You plan on looking for some other protection and in the future, maybe You could save some money and who knows - maybe it will work out better than expected ;) Anyway - good luck! I'm currently planning on getting the hybrid version - but I guess I will still get this car - there is not much of a choice in this price range + I love how it looks ;)
La cosa tragica è che ho visto cose molto peggio su auto molto meglio ! Le parti morbide in teoria non sono un difetto , servono ad attutire il rumore dei sassolini che normalmente in uno sterrato sono proiettati verso il sottoscocca in prossimità delle ruote anteriori e salvano dal rumore che potrebbe essere molto fastidio e proteggono la scocca ammortizzando le pietre , ovviamente se si è bravi piloti in fuori strada ci si guarda bene dal raschiare il fondo della macchina e si dovrebbe evitare di colpire oggetti molto alti sugli angoli d'attacco , per questo esistono delle regole per una buona guida off-road senza per forza fare danni . Per tutto il resto esistono i i carri armati 😂 Se devo essere sincero non mi sembra malaccio per essere un auto abbordabile Bel servizio , l'ho trovato molto utile 🤜🤛
The brake oil in that place are soo unprotected, youll need bigger alluminium plates to protect everthing and kep it low in weight , off roading with that dacia it's out the question, not in that state, i really having second tought in buy this one for off road. Now i'm starting to udnerstand why the off road version will be 5000 euros or more
@@ragerblitz821 if you mean extreme version as an offroad version, than difference from Journey is in material that covers seats, modular roof rails and a nice copper coloured mirrors......... but Journey what is city version vs extreme, what is "offroad version" ... are the same price.
Thank you for sharing this! It is annoying. The car industry seems to assume (or to know by the market analysis) that hardly anyone takes a car off-road but everyone needs heated steering wheels and other toys. If I could afford a new car right now, I would go for the old Duster 4x4 Diesel.
@@DusterCoolTravels when you plan on spending lets say 25-27 000 euro for a car and dacia fucks it up so hard you need to spend another "surprise"" 5000 to make it practically funtional.... why it could be a deal breaker... :D
I will keep my fully protected 2019 150hp 4x4 red line Duster. Will see what will offer next year Bigster. Also will be waiting to see 2025 Suzuki Grand Vitara. I really had high hopes for new Duster but come on , cost cuttings and shortcuts are too many and thats not only for the belly. They add something good, like rear disk brakes but we also got no pipes protection, cloth for under belly and 40x40mm metal plate for engine protection....We all like ours reasonably prized Dusters but we're not a morons who can sell |sorry| that new shit, badged with a new look and logo. There are too many city 4x4 already!!!!
To bad for the deesign team .... they did a great job for the exterior & interior including functionality but here in Romania especially with the old DACIA'as where Renault made durable engine .. we always said that the engine will outlast the metal chassis & the statement is true .... but with the new generation and these 3 cylinder engines they will both go down at the same time.
Man, I knew not to buy it when they scraped diesel engines. it was clear from then on that its gonna be a small size CITY SUV. 4x4 is useless and would rather get cheaper 4x2 then.
Can never see me "upgrading" now. Going to hang on to my 2019 1.3 TCe 150 Prestige 4WD & 2021 1.5 Blue dCi 115 Prestige 4WD until they actually produce something better than this. If not will just keep them going forever. 😎
This car is dangerous to drive off road. I can imagine a scenario going up on steep hill and having a rock breaking those completely unprotected brake fluid pipes. You will be a goner once you start rolling back. Not to mention that this felt underside can lit the whole car to fire. What where they thinking.
I think I will hold my 2016 model. Didn't have problems on snow or wet clay roads. Even lots of fine dust didn't make problem, at least for now. 😊
Is it elektro plated? Zink galvanised, or is is bare steel?
Hopefully soon there will be available aftermarket metal parts to replace those felt materials. this if you want offroading of course, for street run is ok even with that felt material.
Thanks for that video! It is good to see how the underbody looks.
Very usefu informations! Thank you for sharing. I wonder if the extreme version has the same protections of the journey version or it is better protected…
Extreme version is the same underneath. The Adventure limited edition is also the same underneath.
@@DusterCoolTravelssuch a shame. This won't last a year with UK winters and the amount of salt on the road.
Hello... Would you be able to make the comparison with the previous Duster ?
Yes. Not my old duster, but one of the same model
Thanks guys! I've appreciate your video a lot really because there are many precious advises.
Just a 4x4 city car now. Even jogger had the rust treatment and the break lines were better protected.
But that felt material is really good for sound insulation and small rocks won’t hit the underbelly which is provoking rust even on rust treated cars. But if time, effort and money are at hands, you can use those felt parts as stencils for the metal shielding. :)
Best reality check in the web about this car!
Thank you 🙏 being my personal car, I am honest about the good and the bad of this model
well this was a surprise...and a sad one 😔....felt sheets underside ???? I honestly don't remember seeing that on any car ???? it will collect mud, water, get heavy and iced in winter, fall off for sure at certain situations......and that is supposed to protect brake piping ?????? it really looks like Duster 3 needs an immediate "belly lift" update ...but not by us ....by factory update instead.....as it looks now, it is just a semi product patched up for demo videos and car show rooms.....😪😡😭
BMW, BMW, MERCEDES...
Hi, I have some concerns about the new Dacia Duster. I haven't decided to order one yet. Your experience can help me decide.
1. Any disturbing noise or excessive vibration from the new 1.2 TCe engine different from the smooth 1.3 TCe?
2. Any lag or stalls between clutch and engine when changing gears?
3. Any downside of mild hybrid system when accelerating?
4. Any constant mechanical noise from the rear differential when cruising at constant speed such as 90 km/h?
Thanks in advance.
Maybe Dacia expects that even in the 4wd version very few people would do serious off roading with this vehicle.
Exactly. In theory that is the case. Less than 5 percent of the people buying a Duster go offroading medium or hard.
That is only about offroading... you get on basic road at winter... its salted and wet when its freezing... that carpet gets wet and freezes.
now you get into rural are that is not snowplowed properly... even getting to your parking spot right in front of your house you have not been in for few days and some snow fell on it meanwhile and froze... what will happen to that frozen carpet when it hits pile of frozen snow?
that carpet will hold wetness there for a long time... basically helping rust to happen.
This car is planned to be trashed soon... and that is sad cause finally duster seems nice... but as showed its not finished.....
and welp im buying car now.. not in 2 years.
and finding this out... welp it will very likely influence if I will ever consider dacia as whole in the future.
For those who think that there is no protection under this car, please check Jeep's Compass underneath protection, which has not anything at all
What about comparing to the previous model? Was DD 2 protected in a better way?
Yes. There was a plastic plate over the fuel pipes ( but held it up very good, no problem with it in 5 years). And no felt fabric under the D2 Duster
Bonjour , merci pour le partage de la vidéo , impressionnant , je pensais prendre un Dacia Duster ou Bigster mais maintenant je préfère aller voir la concurrence.
ok. tres bien, mais n oublie pas de checker le niveau de protection de la concurrence.
Thank you for such a real review. I am a Duster fan and I will remain one. This is so amazing for me !
Thank you 🙏
I really Hope the Renault Version will have more protection installed and have 16" wheels as an option.
Use tectyl for underbody rust protection instead of waxoyl. Thank me later.
It s better? I see it s only in 20 L bottles
Yes, it’s the thick coating you typically see under cars. It’s like a very thick and slightly flexible coating. It offers a very good protection against rust and scratches from impact. It should be available in spray bottles.
Is there really NO factory rust protection? I can see not a little bit underbody wax😮
Is there anything in the hollow area?
No protection whatsoever 🙄
I hope you upload a video with the mods you are going to do. I will have mine in 2 weeks! Also i would like to know if you know about some high load interior net, cos when i travel i need to load it to the roof.
Yes, definitely will make videos with the protection solutions
Maybe someone can use these covers to make a mold to make a glass fiber reinforced plastic version of them?
Good idea. But where can I find someone who can do it?
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@@DusterCoolTravels maybe the guys of 'Mudster' can find a solution for this. Also at the back, the cover must point upwards so it doesn't scoop up dirt in reverse. The cover design is good for all the other duster versions (1.2 2×4, lpg tce100 & hybrid 140) good noise réduction, better aerodynamics for the underbody. But they should've made a different design for the 4x4 also, no stonguard paint on the underbody for the 4x4 is not a good idea. Wouldn't make much of a price difference to my opinion.
Great video, congratulations, keep it up, I appreciate the honest review!
Thank you 🙏
No. It seems most of the cost of that car has gone to the electronics like cameras, tablet and other "beautiful graphics" for the comfort of the driver, but not on the really important places for off road
3:28 the new duster rear differential, do you think this will be better than the old model.
I think it has more electronics on it, I just hope is not going to overheat like the previous one 👀
@@DusterCoolTravels unfortunately it looks they added some harmonic balancer to drive-shaft flange and that's it, internals are probably same (maybe friction discs will have better design but they have changed it over years and probably developed it to it's maximum potential), ABS is sharper more "inteligent" which could save some wear and tear on rear coupling but from my research when warning light starts flashing it only indicates that friction discs are expanding allowing for less slipping (ECU is only guessing temperature my diff has only 2 thin wires going into diff no temp sensor or anything else so it has to compare RPM's of each wheel when rear axle is getting more that 47% of power it knows coupling is heating up not allowing slipping in coupling) so if you overheat rear clutch you may not be able to switch into 2WD simply because there won't be enough space for clutch discs which will be forced together by heat expansion, so that would not bother me if I am offroading unless I need to turn around on hard surface.
On our Duster II 4x4 we have a sort of valve on the exhaust (close to engine) that sticks out and a sensor on the rear diff that sticks out. It is clear that both often get dragged when we offroad and the diff sensor now has an open wire which brings up a 4wd system issue when it gets wet (fixed this with vaseline which worked over a year now). At least it seems these issues were fixed on the new Duster.
We often have a ground clearance issue when offroading in sand where the tracks are too deep and the bottom starts scraping on the sand. This is our only issue for getting across certain routes in Southern Africa.
Maybe the felt can be covered with some fibreglass and also looks like it is not being tied down well enough in one or two places.
Don’t you have a skid plate for the valve? There are models that are fixed on the exhaust pipe. Best solution. I’ve used for 4 years on my previous duster and had no problems 💪
😂 it again confirmed that all new vehicles are made by accountants and not by engineers. The cardboard is cheap, sound deadening ,useless in wet and absolutely not protective in off-roading… 😢
Hmm, A special edition with underbody protection and higher suspension is planned for this year
Only if I make it 😅
I think thats how most euro boxes look these days. I agree that better under body protection is need for serious off road use. I suppose after market suppliers will jump on the shortfall and produce better solid skid plating. One thing that annoys me is the lack of any paint or protection on the wheel hub assembly which are already red with rust. If i end up buying the Duster i will be coating them with decent black paint and then much Lanoguard.
Real target is people doing regular comutes no different to anyother toy jeep doing the rounds u new a 4x4 buy a landcruiser
no paint job under plastic pieces?
No, the floor is painted, just no protection for the paint 🙄
Wouldn't it be the easiest to just cover all these felt plates with a coat of resin - it will make it waterproof and stiff at the same time.
Also - if one plans not to go offroading , should this type of coverage be considered as a deal breaker?
It is a deal breaker for offroading. As for the resin, I don’t know how stiff it would make the felt plates. They should protect the brake fluid pipes and the fuel pipes in case the car hits a rock.
Its my situation. Im gonna buy a car... I do not plant to go off-roading. just city and roads. but I want an SUV what means I want a 4x4 and be able to go off-roading IF chances comes. I really do like how dacia exterior looks, but I was sitting inside and driving it on test drive.... hell how cheap it all looks on inside and really uncomfortable... adding this on top, that they are basically planning to destroy my potentional chasis even going on roads (getting it wet and freeze and so on...) that I seriously am considering a Korando over Duster at same or even cheaper price.... . it does not look as good in exterior but compared to duster interior is pure luxury. and I can have 4x4 with automatic transmission that is also pretty damn capable at possible offroading. The only downside Korando has for me is that high consumption. like not damn high... 8,5-9 city, 8 roads, 10 highways...
so yes, seeing this like this accumulating seems to be a pretty much deal breaker for me.
looks like dacia is going way of apple.... making sure something breaks fast so stupid people will buy another very fast...
I@@DusterCoolTravelsI see. Well just give it a try with resin - maybe get from somewhere a few samples of felt and try different resins. Nevertheless - resin and a fibreglass used to be used for creating stiff furniture with crazy shapes. Till this day resin combined with fiberglass fabric scraps is used as a water insulation in buildings (for ex. at roofs). I believe these felt plates would get hard and durable with a certain amount of resin. At the end of the day, if You plan on looking for some other protection and in the future, maybe You could save some money and who knows - maybe it will work out better than expected ;)
Anyway - good luck! I'm currently planning on getting the hybrid version - but I guess I will still get this car - there is not much of a choice in this price range + I love how it looks ;)
La cosa tragica è che ho visto cose molto peggio su auto molto meglio !
Le parti morbide in teoria non sono un difetto , servono ad attutire il rumore dei sassolini che normalmente in uno sterrato sono proiettati verso il sottoscocca in prossimità delle ruote anteriori e salvano dal rumore che potrebbe essere molto fastidio e proteggono la scocca ammortizzando le pietre , ovviamente se si è bravi piloti in fuori strada ci si guarda bene dal raschiare il fondo della macchina e si dovrebbe evitare di colpire oggetti molto alti sugli angoli d'attacco , per questo esistono delle regole per una buona guida off-road senza per forza fare danni .
Per tutto il resto esistono i i carri armati 😂
Se devo essere sincero non mi sembra malaccio per essere un auto abbordabile
Bel servizio , l'ho trovato molto utile 🤜🤛
I'm very sad for you my friend, you have to spend more money to go off roading and tank you one more time for your total honesty.
Thank you 🙏
The brake oil in that place are soo unprotected, youll need bigger alluminium plates to protect everthing and kep it low in weight , off roading with that dacia it's out the question, not in that state, i really having second tought in buy this one for off road.
Now i'm starting to udnerstand why the off road version will be 5000 euros or more
The offroad version is the same underneath.
@@DusterCoolTravels soo they gonna want more 5 k over absoluty nothing, just a diferent paint job?
@@ragerblitz821 if you mean extreme version as an offroad version, than difference from Journey is in material that covers seats, modular roof rails and a nice copper coloured mirrors.........
but Journey what is city version vs extreme, what is "offroad version" ... are the same price.
I wonder , what Renault will bring in India by the end of 2024
Thank you for sharing this! It is annoying. The car industry seems to assume (or to know by the market analysis) that hardly anyone takes a car off-road but everyone needs heated steering wheels and other toys. If I could afford a new car right now, I would go for the old Duster 4x4 Diesel.
This dacia duster new generation looks to be one step forward and two steps back
This was really good information👍I think I will cancel my Dacia Duster 2024 4x4 order after seeing this😥
Why do you think of canceling the order?
@@DusterCoolTravels when you plan on spending lets say 25-27 000 euro for a car and dacia fucks it up so hard you need to spend another "surprise"" 5000 to make it practically funtional.... why it could be a deal breaker... :D
I will keep my fully protected 2019 150hp 4x4 red line Duster. Will see what will offer next year Bigster. Also will be waiting to see 2025 Suzuki Grand Vitara. I really had high hopes for new Duster but come on , cost cuttings and shortcuts are too many and thats not only for the belly. They add something good, like rear disk brakes but we also got no pipes protection, cloth for under belly and 40x40mm metal plate for engine protection....We all like ours reasonably prized Dusters but we're not a morons who can sell |sorry| that new shit, badged with a new look and logo. There are too many city 4x4 already!!!!
To bad for the deesign team .... they did a great job for the exterior & interior including functionality but here in Romania especially with the old DACIA'as where Renault made durable engine .. we always said that the engine will outlast the metal chassis & the statement is true .... but with the new generation and these 3 cylinder engines they will both go down at the same time.
Man, I knew not to buy it when they scraped diesel engines. it was clear from then on that its gonna be a small size CITY SUV. 4x4 is useless and would rather get cheaper 4x2 then.
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Sorry but thats a step too far, thats cost cutting that seriously compromises the car’s ability. Wish we had bought one of the last 4x4 diesels.
Da să-i pui motor electric pe spate tot trebuie diff, și trebuie să-l și acoperi.
Can never see me "upgrading" now. Going to hang on to my 2019 1.3 TCe 150 Prestige 4WD & 2021 1.5 Blue dCi 115 Prestige 4WD until they actually produce something better than this. If not will just keep them going forever. 😎
So sad
pofff no vale la pena. me tiro para atras.
A disaster 😒
😅
Dacia Disaster
This car is dangerous to drive off road. I can imagine a scenario going up on steep hill and having a rock breaking those completely unprotected brake fluid pipes. You will be a goner once you start rolling back. Not to mention that this felt underside can lit the whole car to fire. What where they thinking.
One thing to constantly think about whenever i go offroading, until I will get a skid plate there🙄
Comparing to first generation Duster 4x4 which I have, third generation really looks like shit, sorry...