This is the clearest explanation of a Sonata I've seen. Using the piano for examples is brilliantly simple. Much more simple than the Yale Course guy. You should teach at Yale!
I've been playing piano/studying music for almost 50 years. This is the best interpretation of the term "rule" (as in "the rules of music") I've heard yet. Many thanks!
This really explained sonata form to me in a way I can hear and understand. I am just beginning a study of classical music and hope to learn to play classical piano. I'll check out your other videos and site!
Make it easy for you, Sonata is for piano only without any other instrument playing. If anything plays with piano like violin or cello,We call it concerto.
Bravo to you. What a teacher, you are superb. I think most folks do not teach but end up showing student's how good they are. Which is not teaching. Now to look at your band aid approach Ciao.
I fucking love Schubert. In nearly every of his sonatas he goes complete insane what it seems often work like a typical classical time sonata in the beginning. Its so much fun in his compositions
was also a practice to modulate to the relative minor in the second theme of the exposition for contrast. the development can move through the circle of 5ths or any combination to explore fragments of the original theme and introduce new motifs, counter point etc. an excellent form to display your ideas and expand the musical palette of the composer.
In my compositions, I don't always end the piece in the same key I started in. Sometimes, it's even a distant key. When ending in another key, it can give a sense of renewal and change when there was previously a sense of conflict. And often, I will end the piece with the initial theme but the final chord will be major instead of minor (when writing in minor keys).
Godadameve - the “rule” required the secondary theme to be in the sun-dominant key in the exposition. But in the recapitulation the secondary theme is supposed to remain in the tonic key.
There are also variations on a main theme as in Mozarts k. 300i. Also each piece can have multiple movements with an allegro, andante, and rondo portion to finish the sonata as in the k. 545. You only talked about the first allegro portion in the video.
According to Miss Ann Elk, it starts thin at one end, gets much much thicker in the middle and then thin again at the other end. (Let's see who's old enough to get this.)
superb video sir. I like the way you explain music as art how there are no rules it just flows . and you play amazingly with your takes on the sonata 16.
@@patrickwalt6903 Yes; 1st theme; ascending triad in crotchets C-E-G 2nd theme; descending triad in quavers D-B-G - you could call it inverted or retrograde I guess.
@@patrickwalt6903 OK - I see where you are coming from, I would say it is absolutely significant in the context of the piece, and a deliberate - even jokey - device by Mozart.
very nice video! more video like this please :). it reminds me of Jean-François Zygel (french pianist) that a tv show (late at night and only in summer) about music and he explains a lot of stuff like this! more please more :)
Sir, I'm not well with reading sheet music and never have been, but I'm fine with chords basically from major to minor and dominant 7, major 7 variations (9s I know a few by heart usually in 1 inversion only, root's 5th's minor 6 over the root note etc).. that being said, are there any resources for learning such brilliant classical music with "fakebook" or "realbook" methods? If the honest answer is no, that's OK.. I'm fine with being a pop/rock/blues or just popular music style rehearsal pianist of sorts, but I'd like to play more melodically than persuasively. Thanks.
Even if you suck at reading sheet music, you can figure out how to play stuff like this. Use a combination of the sheet music and your ear to learn the piece, and you can write down some fingerings and use the sheet music even if you don't read it well. You can also watch mockups of midi to help see all the notes.
@@cluckcluck6494 yes beethovens (op 27 number 2) moonlight sonata first movment is slow. The third movement is Presto Agitato (Very fast and Agitated), Beethoven makes up for the slow movement in the third movement. Just because the first movment is slow don't make it easy to play. You have to make the inner notes to sing out and it's not easy. The first movment is Adagio sostenuto (slow and sustained).
It's expected that the second theme is played on the 3rd (or 5th), when the 1st key was a minor key (so it goes from minor to relative major), so it's something that is somewhat expected in major key pieces as well. In major, the 2nd key is usually 5th, or 4th, or , or 6th, or 3rd. By the way Dodadameve, its usually a KEY CHANGE to the chosen degree, for the 2nd theme, not just the theme played on the mode of the chosen degree, although sometimes it is, (& sometimes it's played on a degree which is not diatonic to the first theme's key, such as flat 6, etc.
It means that the key is in that major/minor, as you can notice, some of the sheet music have sharps or flats in them after the clef, glad to help!! :)
If you compose something in sonata form and choose to call it a sonata, we call it a sonata. If you choose not to name it a sonata, we don't call your piece a sonata although it's in sonata form.
+Lewis Bae Oh I see. So does that mean if a piece you composed/movement or section of a piece you composed, is written in sonata form, you can call that piece a sonata?
Fabricio Lima Yeah, I suppose so. If you compose a sonata which contains 3 movements, and 1st movement in sonata form, 2nd movement in minuet form, and 3rd movement in rondo form, for example, you group these movements and call it a sonata, even the second and third movement aren't in sonata form.
Yes. The Sonata Allegro form usually refers to the first movement because it is fast (allegro). However, it isn't unusual for other movements to also adhere to the sonata allegro form.
@@LivingPianosVideos are there typical forms for the other movements besides Sonata allegro or are they more free-form? I’d like to watch more videos on this if you have them.
Brilliant lecture! I've listened to this piece and I know it so well, but you've explained the music and I appreciate it more now. BTW I agree with you about Mozart versus Hummel :-)
This dude is insanely nice.
He'd be a lot nicer if he didn't force us to watch skip free adds...😝
@@jw1773 people need to get paid
@@vmdp8790 fair enough
Your shirt is fortissimo, dude.
Your comment is also mezzo-forte
ppp, buddy
his shirt makes me *Allegrissimo*
@@c.crespo8196 He's a great teacher, but his shirt should be Nomolissimo
His shirt is the Schönberg of fashion.
Why do I half expect him to be sipping a piña colada while teaching about the sonata
He looks like more of a mojito kind of guy.
lol
@@oyc7946 AND GETTIN' CAUGHT IN THE RAIN!
LET'S EAT APPLES IN THE SUNLIGHT
At the blue chairs resort in Puerto Vallarta
This is the clearest explanation of a Sonata I've seen. Using the piano for examples is brilliantly simple. Much more simple than the Yale Course guy. You should teach at Yale!
This guy's energy is pure winning.
I've been playing piano/studying music for almost 50 years. This is the best interpretation of the term "rule" (as in "the rules of music") I've heard yet. Many thanks!
This really explained sonata form to me in a way I can hear and understand. I am just beginning a study of classical music and hope to learn to play classical piano. I'll check out your other videos and site!
John Kyle you should upload a video of you playing!
Make it easy for you, Sonata is for piano only without any other instrument playing. If anything plays with piano like violin or cello,We call it concerto.
I’m wondering if you learned too!
Thanks for watching. My facebook page is: facebook . com / livingpianos
Luke Skywalker Is Explaining Sonata very good.
lmaoo
@@TheOddIsHe07 people these days have a thing for corny stuff
This guy did a better job of explaining this than my college music teacher
So beautiful, brief and HELPFUL!
The force is strong in this one. But now ---- I am the master. But - seriously - he is definitely very good. Excellent video.
Really good to listen to you playing Robert. Thank you.
I think he chose to start the recap in F major because F's dominant is the C, which is the original key!
Exactly, same key change, but back to the first key
That's what I thought, too!
And Schubert is said to have done the same thing sometimes.
Bravo to you. What a teacher, you are superb. I think most folks do not teach
but end up showing student's how good they are. Which is not teaching.
Now to look at your band aid approach Ciao.
I fucking love Schubert. In nearly every of his sonatas he goes complete insane what it seems often work like a typical classical time sonata in the beginning. Its so much fun in his compositions
I just love your energy. Thank you so much for an explanation that gets me fired up.
You're an amazing teacher and performer! Thank you so much for sharing this with the world.
What a wonderful presenter!! He reminds me of Kevin Meaney. I'm waiting to hear him break into "I don't care, I don't care!"
was also a practice to modulate to the relative minor in the second theme of the exposition for contrast. the development can move through the circle of 5ths or any combination to explore fragments of the original theme and introduce new motifs, counter point etc. an excellent form to display your ideas and expand the musical palette of the composer.
So interesting and helpful to someone who is a non-musician.
Absolutely brilliant. I’m definitely going to apply this to my own song writing.
Love your class Robert !!!
Thank you! Wonderful lecture! Beautiful playing!
Many thanks!
This was a great explanation of Sonata form. I love this guy.
You're such a great educator. Thank you.
Thank you very much! I am from the Philippines and I learn a lot. Thank you!
Wow! Informative and entertaining at the same time. Thanks!
Bravo to Robert, he is the genius one, thanks for teaching us.
What a great guy...fabulous..bravo! ahem...and thank you ..
You may enjoy this video as well: livingpianos.com/what-is-the-most-important-musical-form-of-all-time-the-sonata/
Great explanation! Thanks for the share. Still learning about composition and it is cool to hear the change from C to G at 3:51. Neat!
If I can get my hands on this shirt! I love it!
In my compositions, I don't always end the piece in the same key I started in. Sometimes, it's even a distant key. When ending in another key, it can give a sense of renewal and change when there was previously a sense of conflict. And often, I will end the piece with the initial theme but the final chord will be major instead of minor (when writing in minor keys).
Robert. Could you make a video regarding preludes and fugues??
Godadameve - the “rule” required the secondary theme to be in the sun-dominant key in the exposition. But in the recapitulation the secondary theme is supposed to remain in the tonic key.
one of your best. please more like this. Tutorials on explaining and analyzing music.
There are also variations on a main theme as in Mozarts k. 300i. Also each piece can have multiple movements with an allegro, andante, and rondo portion to finish the sonata as in the k. 545. You only talked about the first allegro portion in the video.
Great video! Thanks for posting!
Better explanation than other vids , Thank you very much
What’s the difference between a theme and a subject in sonata form? Or are the terms used interchangeably?
Very good! Thank you! I will "listen"!
According to Miss Ann Elk, it starts thin at one end, gets much much thicker in the middle and then thin again at the other end. (Let's see who's old enough to get this.)
6 march 2020 As I am a novice song writer, (pop-folk) in ABA form, this is super. Keith Stevenson
So much ethusiasm Great job!
superb video sir. I like the way you explain music as art how there are no rules it just flows .
and you play amazingly with your takes on the sonata 16.
Excellent Shirt!
I would love to buy your Mozart recordings.
Marian Palko it's out there in the market I checked it. it's called Mozart 225 but it costs somewhere around $300 so maybe I'll invest in it later
Simply outstanding! Thank you for the exposition!
1:06
Because the fist woman is usually fast or allegro.
Thanks for this vid! I was composing a sonata for school!
are vivaldi's four seasons four sonatas as well? because there are 3 movements in each one and the recapitulations are all over the place.
Great video essay. Thank you, sir!
this video helped me for my assignment. Thank You very much :)
The principal motive of the 2nd theme is the same as the 1st, in retrograde and double tempo. Your vids are great btw!
Is it though?
@@patrickwalt6903 Yes; 1st theme; ascending triad in crotchets C-E-G 2nd theme; descending triad in quavers D-B-G - you could call it inverted or retrograde I guess.
Rob Harvey Yehhh but that's just one little chord... Alright so that's what you meant :)
@@patrickwalt6903 OK - I see where you are coming from, I would say it is absolutely significant in the context of the piece, and a deliberate - even jokey - device by Mozart.
This is very cool. I'm taking the sonata approach to my writing and this helped a great deal
Thank you very much🙏
I really appreciate that mark hamill cares so much for classical music
Again, thank you, Sir.
How do movements 2 and 3 fit into the sonata structure?
similar to how they do in concerto's. Movement 2 is often slow, while movement 3 is often fast.
very nice video! more video like this please :). it reminds me of Jean-François Zygel (french pianist) that a tv show (late at night and only in summer) about music and he explains a lot of stuff like this! more please more :)
Thank you for a great explanation!
Sir, I'm not well with reading sheet music and never have been, but I'm fine with chords basically from major to minor and dominant 7, major 7 variations (9s I know a few by heart usually in 1 inversion only, root's 5th's minor 6 over the root note etc).. that being said, are there any resources for learning such brilliant classical music with "fakebook" or "realbook" methods? If the honest answer is no, that's OK.. I'm fine with being a pop/rock/blues or just popular music style rehearsal pianist of sorts, but I'd like to play more melodically than persuasively. Thanks.
Even if you suck at reading sheet music, you can figure out how to play stuff like this. Use a combination of the sheet music and your ear to learn the piece, and you can write down some fingerings and use the sheet music even if you don't read it well. You can also watch mockups of midi to help see all the notes.
Does anyone have a playlist of composers?
Good job Robert..👌😊Made it quite enjoyable and precise choosing K5 45 especially..👌Thanks so much..Warm cheers..😊 God bless..🙏🎶😊🎶🎸
in sonata for example in a cello sonata can we do D.C. dacapo
I’d love to hear your own tune brother! Any links?
So helpful! Thank you!
Vizzini From Princess Bride?
You are so cute
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Thank you. Charmed, I'm sure 😊
Inconceivable!!!
like the four seasons?
Great vid thanks, it help's me a lot.
Great lessons for someone who doesn't read music.
The Recap must be in the sub-dominant key.
The sub-dominant chord/key of C Major is F Major.
like moonlight 3rd
it start in c#
and then g#
Good
nice . i could understand ? if i give lyrics can you tune and upload ?
What about 20th century sonatas like those of Prokofiev and Scriabin?
Do yourselves a favor and study Sonata Allegro form.
Then yiu will understand the sonata, the concerto, and the symphony.
Excellent
like all of your video
So the first movement of a Sonata doesn’t have to be fast?
No Beethoven broke that rule with op 27 no 2. The third movement is fast or presto. Maybe with other sonatas as well.
Ron B So a Sonata’s first movement can be slow
@@cluckcluck6494 yes beethovens (op 27 number 2) moonlight sonata first movment is slow.
The third movement is Presto Agitato (Very fast and Agitated), Beethoven makes up for the slow movement in the third movement.
Just because the first movment is slow don't make it easy to play. You have to make the inner notes to sing out and it's not easy. The first movment is Adagio sostenuto (slow and sustained).
@@ronb6182 Moonlight Sonata isn't exactly a sonata form, it's a Sonata-Fantaisie. Even the title is "Sonata quasi una Fantasia" lol.
you are amazing!
Waaal thank yóu so muçh for the explanation
I write a cello sonata in g major can I write the second theme in b instead of d
Yes.
But, isn't the second theme supposed to be in the Dominant (D)? Why would you write write it in the Phrygian Mode (B) of the Tonic instead of the 5th?
No its not a rule in music you can do whatever you want as he said in the end of the video or somewhere near the end
It's expected that the second theme is played on the 3rd (or 5th), when the 1st key was a minor key (so it goes from minor to relative major), so it's something that is somewhat expected in major key pieces as well. In major, the 2nd key is usually 5th, or 4th, or , or 6th, or 3rd. By the way Dodadameve, its usually a KEY CHANGE to the chosen degree, for the 2nd theme, not just the theme played on the mode of the chosen degree, although sometimes it is, (& sometimes it's played on a degree which is not diatonic to the first theme's key, such as flat 6, etc.
Absolutely not
Hi can I ask a question😁?
What does it mean when you said the title in f major or c major or in any key or chord?
It means that the key is in that major/minor, as you can notice, some of the sheet music have sharps or flats in them after the clef, glad to help!! :)
Outstanding thanks
So what's the difference between a Sonata and Sonata form?
If you compose something in sonata form and choose to call it a sonata, we call it a sonata. If you choose not to name it a sonata, we don't call your piece a sonata although it's in sonata form.
+Lewis Bae Oh I see. So does that mean if a piece you composed/movement or section of a piece you composed, is written in sonata form, you can call that piece a sonata?
Fabricio Lima Yeah, I suppose so. If you compose a sonata which contains 3 movements, and 1st movement in sonata form, 2nd movement in minuet form, and 3rd movement in rondo form, for example, you group these movements and call it a sonata, even the second and third movement aren't in sonata form.
+Lewis Bae Thanks
Fabricio Lima You're welcome.
As much as I appreciate the sonata, I have to be reborn to understand what you said.
Love the music, didn't care for rest...sorry
really informative video, very helpful~
great stuff, ty
Wait, doesn’t that only explain the first movement though?
Yes. The Sonata Allegro form usually refers to the first movement because it is fast (allegro). However, it isn't unusual for other movements to also adhere to the sonata allegro form.
@@LivingPianosVideos are there typical forms for the other movements besides Sonata allegro or are they more free-form? I’d like to watch more videos on this if you have them.
I like the Moonlight Sonata better. Do that one.
thats really the format for a most modern day songs verse chorus verse chorus improv or solo verse chorus verse chorus end
Brilliant lecture! I've listened to this piece and I know it so well, but you've explained the music and I appreciate it more now. BTW I agree with you about Mozart versus Hummel :-)
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Let’s not get each other wrong tho, Hummel wrote a great piano concerto.
Geniuse
Did anyone else saw Mozart ghost appearing from the back of his head 2:14 and coming back hiding in 2:17?
apologies from a slow learner. So what is the main difference between a sonata and a musical piece
A sonata is what he explained in the video. A musical piece consists of Nocturne, Etude, Sonata, etc.