The Baroque Dance Suite (aka The Most Common Baroque Genre)

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  • @joyinmusicpianostudio3714
    @joyinmusicpianostudio3714 6 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Great info! Gigue--more like :"Jeeg". Partita: "Par-tee-ta". You can google "pronounce ______" to hear accurate pronunciation. Thanks for the work you've put into this, it's a great service to music learners.

    • @usageunit
      @usageunit 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Learned this lesson early in my piano career when I decided to learn Satie's Gymnopedie. Google: "satie pronunciation" (Answer: sah-TEE) Google: "gymnopedie pronunciation" (Answer: zheem-no-pay-DEE)

    • @db4204
      @db4204 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, her pronunciation and stressing of French words is horrible. She should learn how to pronounce R in French [ʁ] and that you almost always stress the final syllable.

    • @iljunjang
      @iljunjang 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I like to think that “Partitia” is the sister of Patricia and Allysia, and the female personification of partitas :). Way to go Allysia, u r awesome.

    • @GoddessPallasAthena
      @GoddessPallasAthena 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@usageunit Yeah, in my head, for years, I was saying "SAH-tee-eh" and "JIM-no-PE-di-ay." I still have a hard time remembering the correct pronunciation of the latter.

  • @privat4462
    @privat4462 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for your sharing your knowledge with us!

  • @IchiKuros
    @IchiKuros 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This has helped me a lot for a project I'm working on for a class hahaha. Thanks so much! Super informative.

  • @manuelbonet
    @manuelbonet 7 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Something I would love to see in the videos is the score while we are listening to the piece, not before. In that way, we could maybe try to follow the fragment.

  • @MusicalMissCapri
    @MusicalMissCapri 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love these kinds of studies.

  • @adamvarkonyi6909
    @adamvarkonyi6909 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great video, very usefull. My problem is with the pronounciation of Bach. All english speaking musicians pronounce the name with a k at the end. It is however not a k. It is an h (like in the word how).

  • @B1GFREAK
    @B1GFREAK 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Super helpful. I live now in France and appreciate your pronunciations!

  • @蔡如媛-i7d
    @蔡如媛-i7d 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    its exactly the video I am looking for!! thank you❤️

  • @kamilareeder1493
    @kamilareeder1493 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks dude 😊 I choreograph ballets for ny students and this stuff is very helpful for when I get stuck 😮😮 like, if i cant think of anything else, I can always hear the music and just pick a dance to use as a base 😊❤
    Classical Music and dance are 👭👭

  • @akmirdad9096
    @akmirdad9096 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Priceless video

  • @claim2game027
    @claim2game027 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Subscribed! PLEASE PLEASE!! Do the single detailed videos about the dances!! Humankind will be in debt with you!! I really hope you do them!

  • @Lynkevmusic
    @Lynkevmusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, Thanks for this. I am writing a suite for a dog at present.

  • @jazzyduck
    @jazzyduck 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    THANKS SO MUCH!! this helps a lot with my music exam revision!!

  • @maryhinkle1756
    @maryhinkle1756 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Very interesting. Thank you, for your videos! I'm learning so much and I look forward to each new one.

  • @kamilareeder1493
    @kamilareeder1493 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks dude 😊 I choreograph ballets for ny students and this stuff is very helpful for when I get stuck 😮😮 like, if i cant think of anything else, I can always hear the music and just pick a dance to use as a base 😊❤
    Classical Music and dance were always meant to go together 👭👭

  • @SkwormmandoGames
    @SkwormmandoGames 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You are honestly an amazing piano teacher.. I've been binge-watching your videos lately and you have no idea how much they've helped me! I really wish you were my piano teacher in real life. Your videos are also funny and entertaining so it makes me look even more forward to watching them! :) Keep doing what you do!

  • @markhendrickson2610
    @markhendrickson2610 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for this video! Such fun.

  • @audreymariasantana
    @audreymariasantana ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you !!! That was helpful (composition student here)

  • @anonanon9447
    @anonanon9447 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    THANK YOU nobody else talks about this stuff lol

  • @LemonCrush72
    @LemonCrush72 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm so glad you included the virtuosic Partita in A minor in this video, it's one of my favorites! (flutist here, obsessed with your videos =D)

  • @yassi8814
    @yassi8814 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you so much for this upload! Very interesting! (:

  • @Advent22mix
    @Advent22mix 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Excellent video.
    Just to cover the pronunciation of the names as you pointed out (though I wouldn't worry too much about it).
    partita = pärˈtēdə (par-tee-da)
    allemande = ˈaləˌmand (al-e-mand, soft a as in mama)
    courante = ko͝oˈränt (koo as in coo coo crazy, and again a soft a)
    sarabande = sarah-band (pretty simple)
    gigue = ZHēɡ (similar to jig but the first g sounds like the s in pleasure, the i sounds like ee in seed, and the second g as in guy)
    gavotte = ɡəˈvät (almost like someone is saying give-ought really fast and slurring it together)
    bourrée = boo like a ghost and rée as in purée
    passepied = päsˈpyā (sounds like pass-pee-ay, pied being french for foot)
    rigaudon = this one I couldn't tell ya. I feel like I'm guessing every time I say it.
    As an aside my personal favourite courante is from Bach's Partita no. 1, BWV 825. I always thought the little quote from the wiki article on the courante described it well.
    "chiefly characterized by the passion or mood of sweet expectation. For there is something heartfelt, something longing and also gratifying, in this melody: clearly music on which hopes are built."~Johann Mattheson

  • @bronktug2446
    @bronktug2446 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wonderful video! Thank you

  • @carmeniorga6144
    @carmeniorga6144 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great job. Really helps students to have a perspective on the pieces they learn as beginners. How they pronounce partita is certainly less important than being able to recognize the genra of a piece and being able to play the instrument. I am in my 4th year of piano study, adult student, and think your channel excellent. Thank you for taking the time to make the videos.

  • @Sukitam2907
    @Sukitam2907 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you so much!! Your video makes me have a clear understanding of the baroque stylized dances!! I am having my music exam tmr:)

  • @isak.indnbstn
    @isak.indnbstn 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you piano, very cool

  • @emilyrln
    @emilyrln 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Definitely putting some of these songs into a playlist for writing my 18th century romance novel 💕
    Also: "passe pied" is POSS pee-YAY 😉 and "miroir" is kind of like mee-HWAHR or meer-HWAHR (lol the vowels are fun to describe in English, and the r-sounds are their own whole thing!)

  • @sdka9922
    @sdka9922 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    There are 3 main types of gigue in Bach's music. The French Gigue is in 6/4 or 6/8 compound time with a typical lilting rythm. The other 2 types are a) in 12/8 or 6/8 with ternary structure below pulse level b)in 3/8 or 6/8 with ternary structure at pulse level. French composers also used quite often this last type.

  • @VTXBlindManGT
    @VTXBlindManGT 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love your videos :) Keep it up!!

  • @dilanklarnet
    @dilanklarnet 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you so much lovely video 🎵🎶🎼 in carantine period hahaha

  • @circa1720
    @circa1720 ปีที่แล้ว

    Passepied is pronounced roughly 'passeh-pee-yay' with a very light 'y' at the end and the 'd' essentially silent. (it is not derived from 'pie' or any other dessert or pastry).

  • @y3rmania
    @y3rmania 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Sometimes I like to put classical music on, pull my pants to my knees, get knee-high socks and start dancing.

  • @AbrahamMart
    @AbrahamMart 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    love this videos!

  • @Therayn3d
    @Therayn3d 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very informative video as always ! Your french accent is so funny ahah, it is not too bad about the pronunciations, for "passepied" the "ed" is pronunced kinda like "é" thought !

  • @kanyekubrick5391
    @kanyekubrick5391 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    always delivering quality content. really enjoying these videos.

  • @Dickens20
    @Dickens20 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interesting information! I learn so much and at the same time really enjoy your videos. You make me a better pianist as well as a more informed musician. Thank you!

  • @thechaseisbetterthanthecat68
    @thechaseisbetterthanthecat68 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Geeg" 😂. It was so cute haha. Good video anyways

  • @luisluna6069
    @luisluna6069 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wonderfull¡¡¡ we miss the Badinerie 😊😊😊😋😊

  • @dudaz_music
    @dudaz_music ปีที่แล้ว

    Looking through Bach’s I always come across something interesting like this. Crazy how many genres of things they had in baroque times with seemingly changing out one instrument or something like that. It’s pretty confusing. I guess this like the bachata compared to salsa to someone who doesn’t know the difference

  • @leo17921
    @leo17921 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    3:22 lmao the way you say passepied

  • @TimGallois
    @TimGallois 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, thanks. If you'd like, I'd be happy to record the correct pronunciation for the different dances.

  • @Bobowobo
    @Bobowobo 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey PianoTV! First off I want to say really good job the channel has grown a ton since I subscribed congratulations. Do you think you could do another "Watch Me Practice" in the description you said it was a doable piece for you. I think it would be interesting to see one with a more challenging piece for you so we can see how to work through problems when we're working on challenging pieces. Thanks if you read keep up the amazing work!

  • @cynthiasanger5138
    @cynthiasanger5138 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Partita is pronounced "ParTEETah" It is spelled P-A-R-T-I-T-A

  • @sdka9922
    @sdka9922 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    The second beat of the saraband is not so much emphasized as it is elongated, syncopating the third pulse and giving eventually a feminime termination. It usually occur every other measure though there are many exceptions.

  • @Dericulus
    @Dericulus 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hi. Love your videos so far and I really like your explanation of the Baroque dance suite. But you do mispronounce some of them. I hope I can help a little bit:
    Sarabande: (Sah-rah-bahnd), not so much (Sarah-band)
    Gigue: Hear many times pronounced by pianists like Andras Schiff, a Hungarian and German speaker, as more like (zheeg). Hard to find the phonetic spelling of the sound, but you can hear him pronounce it.
    Passepied: I'm pretty sure it's a French dance, and it looks a lot like it means roughly "pass foot". So, I imagine it sounds someting along the lines of (pass-e-pyeh), if I had to use the Spanish cognate "pie" (pyeh) for "foot" to figure "pied" in French sounds similar,. May be off on this one, though.
    Please keep doing your thing. :)

    • @Dericulus
      @Dericulus 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Also:
      Allemande: (Ah-leh-mahnd) not so much (Al-la-mand)

    • @CadenzaPiano
      @CadenzaPiano 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm a native French speaker. I don't know the origins of these names, but "passepied" looks like a porte-manteau word composed of "passe" from the verb "passer" = to pass and "pied" which means "foot" and is pronounced "pié", which would be something like "pee-ay" in English phonetic.

    • @Dericulus
      @Dericulus 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wow. So I was really close, then. I'm a little impressed with myself, since I don't speak French at all.
      Thank you. I'm glad a native speaker took the time to set it right for us. I feel bad or rude when I mispronounce words or names or titles from other languages in music, so now I can proudly say "passepied" when it comes up. lol
      Really appreciate it. :)

    • @sdka9922
      @sdka9922 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Passepied is similar to a Menuet with one beat per measure in 3/4, faster tempo and starting with an offbeat.

  • @composer318
    @composer318 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello. what is prélude and Fugue? Would you explain? And how to compose prélude and Fugue

  • @kyleclef
    @kyleclef 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wonderful video! Just what I was looking for..also to let you know - gigue is pronounced 'jig'. :)

  • @ryanjohnson1833
    @ryanjohnson1833 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey I really like your videos. Could you maybe check out Katchaturian's Toccata. I played it this year and it sounds hard and is a show off piece however it's not very hard at all.

  • @negar9063
    @negar9063 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    K, I love you.

  • @gustavosalmeron2013
    @gustavosalmeron2013 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Actually, gigues are usually in 6/4 or 6/8, the italians being faster and 12/8 not 4/4... according to wikipedia(english and portuguese) and encyclopedia britannica.

  • @delphes5984
    @delphes5984 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    You're not saying any word right at 3:15 but that's no big deal as they are written ;). (I'm sorry I can't correct your prononciation, I'm bad with the phonetical alphabet)
    Anyway thanks for the video, I keep learning new things every time!

  • @afonsoserro4437
    @afonsoserro4437 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, but I was looking for the rythms of each dance.

  • @composer318
    @composer318 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    1:11 Gigue intro

  • @juanitabecker1482
    @juanitabecker1482 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    jeeg not gig

  • @csabrendeki
    @csabrendeki ปีที่แล้ว

    Froberger is not "Early Baroque". The a High Baroque composer. Early Baroque is start of the 17th century not the middle.

    • @csabrendeki
      @csabrendeki ปีที่แล้ว

      The picture to Froberger is by the way Ferdinand III of Habsburg.

  • @matthewpo2041
    @matthewpo2041 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wow, I've never been this early. There are only two comments.

  •  2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The first G in Gigue is a soft one, like George, or if you want it to sound more French, then it's like the G in giraffe. The second one is a hard G, like God. "ue" is silent. A related English dance is called the Jig and this is how you can pronounce "Gigue", too.
    "Allemande" is pronounced similarly to the English word "almond". "Courante" is pronounced similarly to the Islamic holy book. When you say that the Allemande was very "serious" and "not fun", that's not true at all. A better way to describe it is "formal", but the dance itself is quite "jumpy" and a lot of steps involve getting on your toes, up and down.
    The Minuet was very popular in the late 18th century, it's the only Baroque dance that survived into the Classical period. It was danced all the time, at all upper class social gatherings. Every little girl knew how to dance it and dreamt of attending these aristocratic parties (even if she was not of aristocratic birth).
    "Partita" is not pronounced "partisha", just simply par-ti-ta.
    One thing that this video completely neglects is the peculiarities of the dance steps, characteristic of these dances. Unfortunately not many modern musicians know these, so they perform the dances completely wrong, pretty much copying other musicians who also do not know these things. While these dances were often used as background music for social gatherings, it was always at least in principle possible to dance to them and it's necessary to perform them that way. Look up "Introduction to Baroque Dance" to learn more. For someone performing a Baroque suite, it important to at least be familiar with the dance steps. For example, the Minuet, even though it is notated in 3/4, it ought to be played like it is 6/4, because it was a six step dance -- with accented first beat of every odd-numbered measure.

  • @nima8071
    @nima8071 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Great video, but I hate it when you mispronounce "partita": it has two hard "t" sounds, and no "sh" sound (roughly par-tee-ta).

    • @gabrielperezpalacio5106
      @gabrielperezpalacio5106 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      same

    • @thepianoplayer416
      @thepianoplayer416 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      The word Gigue tends to be pronounced as: ZHēɡ like an "sh" sound in the beginning. The French word Passepied (passing of the foot) is päsˈpyā with the last 2 syllables as "py" & "ā" instead of 1 syllable "pī" like the English word pie.

    • @SaraMGreads
      @SaraMGreads 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      People all over the world pronounce words in different ways. It's all good.

    • @lrm9298
      @lrm9298 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SaraMGreads well.... mispronouncing "partita" is kind of a big deal if you're supposedly an expert on the subject ...

  • @thatguyfromthere1168
    @thatguyfromthere1168 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is there famous eyboard music from the Renaissance?

    • @heavynov
      @heavynov 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Fitzwilliam virginal book? There is a lot of keyboard music (organ, virginal, ...), however sadly the renaissance tends to be neglected by most performers and listeners. And many of the composers who wrote for keyboard instruments are mainly known as vocal composers. Sweelinck and Frescobaldi are probably the only two who are well known for their keyboard works.

  • @jamespetercharles7532
    @jamespetercharles7532 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you have any original?

  • @ArturKorotin
    @ArturKorotin 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wanted to ask, pretty much all of the Allemande's that I have heard all start with a pick up into the downbeat. Is that just a coincidence or is that also a common trait?

    • @thereyougoagain1280
      @thereyougoagain1280 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s standard, it has to do with the way the dance itself works. If you hear some rhythmic character to a dance piece, it’s generally fairly safe to assume that it’s from the dance itself.

  • @juanitabecker1482
    @juanitabecker1482 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    pah-sepee-ay. (passepied---French word, silent d)

  • @andrerentz8806
    @andrerentz8806 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a feeling you don't like lil Uzi vert

    • @johnb6723
      @johnb6723 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is that your cat or dog?

  • @thomasellis8586
    @thomasellis8586 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lovely lesson here, but your pronunciation needs work. "Gigue," a French version of the English word "Jig" is proounced with a soft, vocalized "ZH-" sound, not a hard, palatal "G" So it would be more like "Zhig," not "Gig." And Passepied is French for "footstep" ("pied" is "foot" in French), prounounced "pyeh" (silent "D") not "Pied" as in "Pied Piper." But otherwise, keep up the good work...

  • @PianoRootsMusic
    @PianoRootsMusic 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    1st comment!

  • @MCMeru
    @MCMeru 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    8:50 AHH! Please stop spreading misinformation!! Its NOT serious! Just because a piece is in a minor key, it doesnt mean its serious! Especially in the baroque era!!!
    As Johan Mattheson, a contemporary of Bach, said about Allemandes: "eine ehrliche teutsche Erfindung, das Bild eines zufriedenen oder vergnügten Gemüts, das sich an guter Ruhe und Ordnung ergötzt".
    "[allemandes are] a german invention, a picture[/scene] of a content or cheerful fella, who enjoys stillness [or better: stressless] and order"

  • @MadarasRightHand7150
    @MadarasRightHand7150 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    6th comment, people. Right over here. Now if you'll excuse me, I shall brask in my glory whilst listening to Symphony No. 9 Mvt 2.

    • @MadarasRightHand7150
      @MadarasRightHand7150 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Emily Rowland-Rawson Thanks for showing me the error in my sentence. I didn't notice at all until you told me. Your help is appreciated! Have a good day!

    • @emilynightingale7758
      @emilynightingale7758 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      You're welcome.

    • @MadarasRightHand7150
      @MadarasRightHand7150 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Emily Rowland-Rawson Just a side note: is the meaning of brask, which you told me sometime before ACTUALLY true, because I searched it up, clicked on the urban dictionary def. of it and I was like "WTF? This has got to be a joke." and was kinda dying inside. But at least on the bright side, I now know the difference between bask and brask. So that's settled. Goodbye.

    • @emilynightingale7758
      @emilynightingale7758 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's not an actual word, but i'd still take care not to get the two mixed up again. Farewell.

    • @MadarasRightHand7150
      @MadarasRightHand7150 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks nonetheless! Have a good day!

  • @akurei123
    @akurei123 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    hi, do you have tourettes? the stuff you do with your eyes remind me of another youtuber who also does this and has it.

  • @comtaar2245
    @comtaar2245 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is it true what you are saying about dances in the baroque era? As far as I know the first half of the 18th century was very much a time of dances. There were still many courts in Europe at that time. And if you cannot pronounce words from different languages, how can we even trust that you know what you are talking about. You do not seem to understand what a passepied is even.

  • @GE2009MU
    @GE2009MU 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Many and repetitively mispronouncing important musical terms that are the subjects of this video makes the speaker appear pedestrian, uneducated eventhough there is some good information here. Mispronouncing so many terms that are not difficult for an English speaker to say makes the viewer wonder whether you've had the proper music training because you would have heard these terms spoken correctly from your teacher or professor. It would do the world a favor to re-record this video with the pronunciation corrected. Take the time to learn the proper pronunciation from plenty of other videos that have these terms spoken correctly or contact a music school and I'm willing to bet you'll start to get many more likes and subscribers.