Which Water-Methanol Injection Kit is Right For You?
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- Join us as we go through our various stages of water-methanol injection systems to find which kit is right for you!
Stage 1 Boost Cooler Water-Methanol Kit - Boost Pressure Switch (On / Off System) Great for track cars, high HP cars, and positive displacement superchargers that hit boost instantly.
Stage 2 Boost Cooler Water-Methanol Kit - Single Variable Progressive Injection (Boost or MAF/MAP Sensor Output) (Liner Injection Curve) Great for all forced induction vehicles! Most popular injection kit.
Stage 3 Boost Cooler Water-Methanol Kit - 2D Variable Progressive Injection. Brings a heads up display into the cab with out permanently affecting the interior. Great for new cars that dont want to mount a gauge but want a water-meth userface. Advanced water-meth control in a easy to use package.
Stage 4 Boost Cooler Water-Methanol Kit - The most advanced water-methanol control on the market. Uses OEM fuel management control for water-methanol injection. Send/save water-meth tunes, data log, create true custom injection tables. Recommended for tuners only.
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I’ve been running your stage two kit on my Grand National for about 3 years now and I have to say that besides a few minor issues with the nozzle fittings leaking, the system has been really good to me.
How was it been holding up?
Great video. V50 Stage 2 for me.
I think the nitrous express direct port kit looks pretty cool. A bit pricey though.
I have a 2004 GTO that I added a LSA supercharger along with cam and heads etc to it the car would be a daily driver What system would you recommend and also I would need a nozzle that will be able to go into a silicone intake tube thanks
You have the controllers.. Not much was mentioned about one controlled by various vacuum levels on a naturally aspirated engine. Propane burns hot too.
NOW YOU JUST NEED A VASTLY DOWNSIZED PUMP MATCHED THE FLOW NEEDS OF A 74 CUBIC INCH V-2 AIR COOLED MOTORYCLE ENGINE.
Installed your stage 1 kit on my 2017 Focus ST. Works great!
Brandon Monroe does the stage one have some type of failsafe? Or can your tuner make the car go into limp mode if it doesn't spray somehow?
sergsrt8 hey there. No the stage 1 kid does not include a failsafe. I do not tune for methanol. Running it untuned can still net small power gains if using a smaller nozzle and will continue to clean valves and lower temps in the combustion chamber.
Brandon Monroe ok thanks
How long does the tank last between fill ups on your stage 1...looking to add to my kia stinger
@@brandonmonroe9867 how much would you say is that small power gain? did you notice it or you check before and after with some android app perhaps?
I have an 07 corvette base with a 2.9 whipple, cam, headers, boosta pump, oem fuel pump... I’m swapping the fuel pump for a 340 Lph new pump, and while I do that I want to add meth, my car is a daily I go to the track a couple of times, will the stage one be enough for what I do , I don’t plan on making a race car out of it , any suggestions and help will be greatly appreciated 👍🏽
What kit is best for a 2014 5.3 Silverado
MAP stage 2 ... any videos or recommendations for installation of the MAP sensor ? 2015 Mini Cooper S
What is the different between to use just pure Methanol or water Methanol ?
So what if u want all or nothing but also want the gauge? Can u do both or can u make all of them just do all or nothing
Will a stage 1 be good on an Audi A4 2.0T? It’s my street racer
Just ordered a sno-210 for my gti. Can't wait to give it a go.
I’m torn between this and the aem progressive methanol kit. My tuner says Aem all the way but I wouldn’t mind saving a hundred bucks and going with a stage 2 snow.
@@cordellingram808 if you just want to control it by boost then the snow will do fine. I installed mine about 5 days ago and have seen a nice drop in charge temps and increased timing. I can't wait to get it tuned on the Dyno and see the improvements.
@@pospc2 did you go with the stage 1 snow or stage 2? my application is a supercharged honda prelude, that maxes out between 6-9psi pending on pulleys. do you have an IG or facebook? would love to see your kit hooked up.
@@cordellingram808 I went with a stage 2. Mine is a mk6 gti so turbo charged. I don't have IG or FB. My install is fairly simple.hatch mounted tank. Pump is mounted by the spare tire. Nylon hose ran under the kick panel carpet area. Into a grommet in the firewall. Then ran under the air box into the back side of the charge pipe right after intercooler.
Controller is mounted in a vent pod.
@@pospc2random question, do you think a subwoofer in the trunk space would effect the reliability of the pump?
Hi can you help me I am looking at your water and methanol kits I am looking to use them with a nitrous kit.
I know most user methanol and water kit so they can advance the timing to produce more power but I am not looking to advance my timing . I am looking at it so i can use the w&m kit to call down the chamber so I don't have to pull the timing.
If i dont go with the water and methanol kit am i better off running a separate fuel cell & putting E85 into that then going to my fuel solenoid.
If that is the case do i just put e85 into the fuel sell or do I need to mix it with a bit of petrol. Say 1 part e85 and 3 parts petrol . So a 1to3 ratio. Can u help me work this out .
Like I said I know people that use water and methanol so they can then advance the timing spark and produce more power. But i am just going to use the e85 only when spraying nitrous. So i am not sure what i can get away with . I no e85 is a lot colder even to the touch compared to petrol. I use 93 to 98 ron pump gas in the UK. But i am new to E85 , but been told it helps with the temperature in the chamber and again with the spark which with nitrous guys that key. As if i can get this right i dont need to pull timing at all. Or if i get a stand-alone ECU i could run advance timing.
But for now i am just looking at e85 as a way of me to get around putting timing from the engine and I only spray my nitrous hear and there. So i fill up with pump gas petrol . Then if i need power i spray my nitrous. But i have to pull timing out even with out spraying nitrous timing has to be pulled so that way when you do spray it don't go bang. I am looking at E85 as away round this.
I hope this makes sense to you and if u can help
What about diesel applications
Yeah
99 Toyota Tacoma v6 trd supercharged 3.4L which kit??!
I bought Snow stage 2 kit & never installed it,
I am unsure how to set up the box vc-25/MAF. I bought cyclinode upgrade & dual nosel upgrade. How do I adjust box, I read instructions several times and I've very confused. Running 306 v2 vortech.
Looking to cool intake charge, car is tuned. Any help would be appreciated.👍
That is a little more involved than what we usually put in a comment. Please give our tech line a ring at 1-888-463-2781
Nice.
I have a 1995 t600 with a 12.7 Detroit series 60.
My EGTs rise to 1600 when I'm racing.
Thanks
For a 300 hp 1.8t how much would you think in a 50/50 methanol water mixture would I use in 100km?
Just get a 2.5 gal or 3.5 mix you're own on cheap but your probably all done now
Thinking of running one of these kits on my B8 Audi S4. I find in most applications people are injecting pre throttle body, through the supercharger. However, I'm looking to use the SRM methanol injection spacer which is direct port injection, post supercharger. I wanted to know, If i use the SRM kit and I'm running one nozzle per cylinder, how accurately and evenly does the water/meth distribute? Might be a bit of a tuning problem if different cylinders are getting different amount of water/meth.
The purpose of a direct port is to get the best distribution possible. As long as the nozzle sizes are the same and its outputting good pressure that's going to be your best route.
@Snow Performance Water Methanol Injection is it possible to use the stage 2 n210 on a diesel application, was thinking of using it on my superduty but wanted to know as everywhere i searched up said it was universal and i just want to confirm
Yes it will work! That systems controller is based on boost alone so there should be no issue.
Can i install this system on 1500cc non-turbo 2000 nissan sunny fb15, and what would be the advantage?
Just to clarify, your stage 2 with boost gauge allows the user to select the PSI the WMI starts & at what PSI it stops working at? Would you say this would be the most ideal setup for a daily driver that only gets on the gas hard seldom throughout the drive? Also what delivery system do you implement? A single nozzle by the throttle body or a direct injection setup off the intake manifold runners? If you're system has a single nozzle setup, do you also provide the hardware to setup a direct injection setup? Finally is your system completely turn key in the sense that you supply everything needed to install and maintain the system which includes the WM mixture?
You set a start and full boost point that will be a linear progression.Yes this stage is perfect for a daily driver! Typical installations are single nozzle systems in the intake pipe.Yes everything needed for install is supplied however you will need to purchase the water methanol mixture.
@@snowperformance1 would you say that the stage 2 is a better daily driver setup over your stage 1?
@@atlasdelmar481 Yes i would say stage 2 is better for a daily.
What is the starting percentage rate with this controller ?
Do you provide CA legal CARB-EO sticker with this product or mail direct only?
Hello, please email us directly at tech@snowperformance.net and we can get you squared away. Thanks!
So I have a 17 mustang 5.0. Its all stock besides having a hpipe & Li race tune on it. Its my daily driver too. Would it be safe to run a W/M kit on it?
You would be using a WOT activated system so it would not be on all the time. As long as you get a good tune with it yes it will be safe to use.
i have a mustang 2007 gt 3v supercharged 16psi. what stage recomend?
Hey Javier, thanks for the comment! Please shoot us a email directly to sales@snowperformance.net and we can get you squared away. Thanks!
Hello Adam, great video I think I know the answer to my question but thought I'd verify it anyway. Question: The controllers can upgraded or are interchangeable with the stage 1-3 kits correct?
So originally I thought all I needed was the on/off boost switch so I purchased the stage 1 stainless steel braided line kit. It's a really nice kit, I just started installation of it. Actually I bought 2 stage 1 kits one for my car and one for my sons car (he paid me back for it lol)
So changed my mind and now I've just ordered the vc50 controller for my car for a progressive flow and to replace my boost gauge. We're also ordering the vc30 controller for sons car. I'm pretty sure I can use the new controllers with my stage 1 kits but wanted to confirm after I've already made the order 🤦🏻♂️😂
You can definitely interchange controllers! You just need to follow the new ones wiring diagram.
@@snowperformance1
I’m building a 6.0 Ly6 bored 30 thou over fully forged new heads fat cam and p1sc procharger tuner kit for my 2000 f body running stock ecu and plan on keeping the stock ecu. Was wondering what kit to use will be wanting to push 700+ whp. Very new to meth injection so wanted to ask thanks in advance. Will not be a drag car but will be at WOT a good bit since I will autocross the car sometimes but mostly it will be a everyday use type of build to a certain extent. To clarify will be drove back and forth to school every now and then which is a lil over an hour drive, high spirited driving (roll raced on occasion.) So a fun reliable street/track monster.
i have a 06 ford mustang gt with a vortech v3 non intercooled system what kit would you recomend and will it run off a 93 octane tuned pcm without needing a retune? thank you
We always recommend a tune to get the most benefit out of your system, however you can get it to operate without one. Personally I think the stage 2, 2.5 and 3 are all great options for street/daily driven type vehicles.
So if I buy a stage 3 kit. i need a tune. would MPT make a tune for me even though they don't sell this product?
A tune is definitely recommended to get the most out of the system. That is something I would contact them about to make sure they are capable.
What stage will be better for my 1.4 TSI Golf Mk6, also I have stage 2
Fail safe?
what kit would work best on a blow thru carb setup?
Assuming it is a 4150 we would recommend the part number in this link.
www.snowperformance.net/stage-1-boost-cooler-forced-induction-water-methanol-injection-kit-red-high-temp-nylon-tubing-quick-connect-fittings-sno-201.asp
We do offer a 4500 flange version as well ig you need a plate for the bigger flange.
Can any one of these systems be used on a blown Ford Flathead with a carburetor & 10 lbs. of boost?
We do have some carbureted systems! I will link it below-
www.nitrousexpress.com/stage-1-boost-cooler/
I'm interested in your systems for the application on a 2022+ Subaru WRX, and I'm wondering if you have any installation and testing shops in or around Vancouver BC Canada?
A performance shop in your area should be able to install our systems, I don't have any names on file here
Anyway I can install this on a naturally aspirated big block with carb?
Our stage one system would work for you. It activates via WOT.
www.nitrousexpress.com/stage-1-boost-cooler/
Just picked up a stock 2016 bmw 428i xdrive gran coupe as a daily driver and am in the process of exploring performance modifications.
As much as I’d love to throw on an intake/exhaust and call it a day to keep my cars warranty… I’m exploring the route of tuning and potentially adding one of your kits (which I would imagine would require an upgraded charge pipe and turbo inlet pipe)
At the same time, my number one goal with one of your kits would be to reduce carbon buildup, rather than maximize performance.
What would be my best option given this information and would that option require a tune?
(PS: PLEASE do not destroy me in the comments people, I’m just looking for info lol)
Had shop install my snow 2.5 kit yesterday should my fuel trim not be lower now ? looking at my data logs my fuel trim exactly the same the afr exactly the same what's best way to know if it's actually spraying ?
You can pull your nozzle out and place it in a 5 gal bucket, then purge your system to see if water-methanol is coming out.
I have a Chevy Sonic and I wanna ask how much is it for the tune and methane injection togethor I just want my car to stop losing power due to heat soak and how much is it to add a fail safe I just wanna add that nothing more due to the fact a Sonic ain’t really a race car
Shoot us a email directly to sales@snowperformance.net and we can get you squared away! Thanks
what kit would be the best for my 2017 x5m f85 stage 2?
The stage 3 system would work well for that application!
www.nitrousexpress.com/stage-3-boost-cooler-direct-injected-2d-map-progressive-water-methanol-injection-kit-stainless-steel-braided-line-4an-fittings-sno-320-brd.asp
For a low boost application like you would see on a 5.7 hemi (7-9lbs), does a progressive system still make since? Or does the small boost range mitigate the need for it?
I still recommend a progressive system for something like that. A non-progressive application would be more for a drag racing application or something like that where the vehicle is at WOT for a short amount of time.
@@snowperformance1 on a hp ecoboost 2.0 build would you reccomend the stage 2 or the 3 for my goals hoping to fuel it solely on pump gas as no ethanol is available local to me but hoping to hit 500whp with my build. I'll have multiple tunes and won't always need to spray meth, is the stage 3 able to turn off the spray easily like the stage 2 or 2.5?
@@michaelgearhart6685 Stage 3 will give you a little more precise injection than the stage 2 however I think personally the stage 2 is more attractive and works fine for most people. If you decide to get a stage 3 you will need to wire a switch inline to the power to have it be able to turn on and off.
@@snowperformance1 How long does a gallon of your 50/50 blend last in your vehicle? What is your fuel injectors' flow rate, MPG, fuel tank size, HP, and torque? Also, for an engine with an 11:1 compression ratio, would your system allow me to run regular 85 octane with no octane booster and eliminate knocking?
Just wondering because I drive a 1998 Ford Expedition with a 5.4L V8 Triton 2V that I want to upgrade to a 11:1 compression ratio to help maximize my engine's efficiency.
What about for a BMW diesel straight 6 350-400hp. What nozzle size and system?
give us a call 1-888-GOFAST-1
Stock, naturally aspirated engine, fuel injected.. stage 1 be a good option for daily driver?
Stage 1 with a WOT switch would be good. It would only be active at full throttle though.
Snow Performance Water Methanol Injection where could I get a WOT switch for an N/A engine
@@SweatyMushroomz www.nitrousexpress.com/wot-switch-w-bracket-and-bolts-15524.asp
Can anyone tell me if this is legal in CA ? I wanna do this to my 320i mostly for hp gains but preventing carbon buildup would be lovely also
We are unable to ship to California, your best bet would be finding one of our dealers located closest to you.
Bonjour,est ce que l'on peut instaler ce kit sur un moteur diesel ? MERCI
Nous avons des systèmes diesel disponibles, vérifiez ce système www.nitrousexpress.com/Diesel-Stage-2-5-Boost-Cooler-Water-Methanol-Injection-Kit-Universal-Stainless-Steel-Braided-Line.asp
Are any of the staged systems vehicle specific. I have a 2018 f150 2.7 ecoboost.
Hey Peter, thanks for the comment! We do have vehicle specific stage 2s! Please reach out to us directly to sales@snowperformance.net and we can take care of you from there. Thanks
Ok thanks. I'm in Western Canada and was also wanting to know if you have retailers here. The freight costs and cross border hassles and fees can be a deal breaker on some great products.
I have a sr20 non turbo which kit can be used if possible thanks..
www.nitrousexpress.com/stage-3-boost-cooler-efi-2d-map-progressive-water-methanol-injection-kit-red-high-temp-nylon-quick-connect-fittings-sno-310.asp
This in EFI only mode would work good!
Hello Snow pERFORMANCE, looking to buy Snow Performance PROGRESSIVE WATER METH INJECTION KIT 210 with a vc-50 controller and trunk upgrade. What is the life span of this system roughly, esp the pump and solenoid. Thank you!
As long as its properly maintained a system can see over 10 years of consistent use easily.
Is the proper maintenance outlined with the kit? Like at x mileage check or replace this item?
Will it destroy wideband o2?
No, our systems will not damage your O2 sensor
How do I know when the pump fails?
If a pump is to fail then the application of course would not get any water/meth which will be apparent by egt, afr, plug reading, feeling of power loss, and so on.
What exact setup would you recommend for a 16'-18' 6th gen I-4 2.0 Turbo Camaro?
I would recommend the SNO-210. Its an easy to use and install controller while giving you something that is very effective and beneficial to use.
Stage 2 map map controller? Is called for high compression set up ??
What do you mean?
& sorry for the ghetto English my primary language is spanish
My quection was :
What stage & name is good for
- high compression
- nitrous
?
@@joseginorio6013 What vehicle are you working with?
2000 toyota celica gts
11.5 forge piston
320cc injector
Aem ems4
100 shot nitrous
93 octane
Stage 2 exedy clutch/ fidanza flywheel
Super tech block guard
Supertech valve & retainer
Stage 1 mwr
@@joseginorio6013 www.nitrousexpress.com/stage-3-boost-cooler-efi-2d-map-progressive-water-methanol-injection-kit-red-high-temp-nylon-quick-connect-fittings-sno-310.asp
This system ran in EFI only mode would work great!
When Android or IOS apps w/ bluethoot interface to operate STAGE 4 controller?
That is not something that is planning on being done at the moment.
What stage is better for 500 hp?
I would say a stage 2, 2.5 or 3 would work well
What is the best stage for supercharged……ls 427
Hey Ben, thanks for the comment! Please shoot us a email directly to sales@snowperformance.net and we can get you squared away. Thanks!
@@snowperformance1 is there a kit suitable for a 2005 Cadillac Deville. It is naturally aspirated, all original.
Are these kits universal?
For the most part yes. We have universal kits and vehicle specific kits.
Can I use the vc50 controller and AEM pump??
yes the VC-50 will control an AEM pump
Snow Performance Water Methanol Injection also is there any way to run more psi then 50psi
@@Ninja-357- You can run more boost but the controller will not progress after 50psi it will be at 100% from there on.
Snow Performance Water Methanol Injection so if I go over 50psi it will keep on spraying is that right thanks
@@Ninja-357- Thats correct.
*naturally aspirated* lol
You guys make any kits for a 2011 volvo s40
Naturally aspirated or boosted?
Turbo 5 cylinder
@@marktaylor3630 www.nitrousexpress.com/stage-2-gasoline.asp
This system would work well.
I have an older v25 controller system. Are there components that I can upgrade like the nozzle and a solenoid. This is for a procharged F1X making about 17 -18lbs at around 900-1000 hp. Or should I look at a different system? Here is the setup albeit it is faster now th-cam.com/video/jqMdxvWYyq0/w-d-xo.html
You could definitely upgrade to a newer style nozzle, solenoid, pump, even controller. Since the vc-25 was discontinued we have upgraded essentially every main component in the system to make sure they are more reliable and perform better than ever.
Will methanol injection hurt cats?
No sir
No sir it won't
Can i use a diesel kit on a petrol turbo application, cheers
We recommend using the kit/s intended for your application, rather than retrofitting a kit that is designed for your use.
@@snowperformance1 but its the same nozzle for petrol and diesel correct?