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One more thing about the hand. There's a scene near the end where he gets trapped and must tear off his hand to continue. However, they did it with his robot hand. It could've been a really meaningful thing with him questioning giving up the last remnant of his humanity, and it even kinda looks like that was the original idea for the scene.
So a painless sacrifice. Maybe if he used his robot hand to shoot the whole movie and had to rely on his humanity once more, but he shoots with human hand anyway.
Deleted scenes that alter characterization: Anakin trying to get into the Archives to look into Force Healing to save Padme, only to be told that it's restricted to only those with the rank of Master... which makes his temper tantrum in the council less of him throwing a diva-fit, and more of an actual, justified frustration as another avenue of doing things the 'right' way is cut off to him.
@@fairystail1 it's not force heal specifically, there's a vault called the restricted section that's only available to masters. It's filled with prophecies, advanced techniques, and almost everything about sith and the darkside. One of the old EU books mentions that this, along with the temple being built on a sith shrine, is how Palpatine clouded the order's vision and diminished their connection to the force. A monument to their hubris. Hence converting the temple into the imperial palace.
@@fairystail1 Not for no reason. That which can be used for good can also be used for evil. Not everything that can be saved should be saved. It is against the code of the Jedi to interfere with life and death unless completely necessary. Only a master can make the determination as to whether or not something is necessary
It would’ve been fantastic to have them specify that the company wanted to keep the hand to show the public that it is the man that pulls the trigger not the machine, only to later reveal that the hand was fake the entire time and that any semblance of humanity had always been a carefully constructed corporate lie.
So the thing is a lot of people dig on the hand as they feel it’s heavy-handed, but like in the original RoboCop during the hospital scene, one of the OCP guys say can we save the hand? And decision fuck it in the reboot. The CEO says let’s keep the hand because a strong handshake is good for like making first impressions so the hand is actually a deep cut first actually original film.
I absolutely prefer the original who actually had to reclaim his emotions and personality after the cyborgisation process. And in that one the dialogue "we managed to save his arm" followed by the angry and callous "lose it, we agreed on full prostetics." Made the OCP and its leaders instant monsters.
I prefer the original as well but I also like the idea of him slowly having his humanity stripped away as the company starts exerting more of their control over him. Idk it’s the difference of a robot thinking it’s a man vs a man who slowly realizes he’s a robot
Their entire idea is evil and makes them monsters though. Then attempting to make a loophole out of forcing a man to obey their every will in a robo body as an idea is evil.
The idea that the human hand represents the human pulling the trigger in drone warfare, which would THEN be revealed to actually just be a robotic hand made to look human would be an excellent commentary on how even those people pulling the trigger of the drones are themselves drones of a different kind in the military industrial complex.
They said during the training bits that they intended the computer bits to make it feel like he was making decisions when it was in fact the computer making those decisions. So it was supposed to be a fake hand purely for pr purposes. He's not actually supposed to have any real humanity left. But in regards to free will, instead of organics
"Keep the right hand. We need a piece of him that cap keep people at ease. Like a handshake." Doctor looks visibly concerned before nodding and saying "I can try." Robocop later has a human hand that he uses as intended, to keep people at ease in a cheap facsimile to humanity, while keeping the symbolism of a drone still having a human piloting it. Later in the movie he needs to chose to sever the hand, his last bit of his human self that has been slowly erased from him over the course of the movie, a vain attempt in thinking that if he loses his hand he'll also lose himself to his creators. Later on he goes to retrieve it, noticing that there's no blood he takes the hand out of the crushed metal that trapped him before and realizes that the hand was also robotic the entire time. It was made to look human. And he realizes that while the machine imitates humanity, he doesn't need it to keep his real humanity. His mind and soul.
This small rewrite would have made the movie 1000x better. I mean everything else about the movie would still be bad but this is definitely a step in the right direction.
It's even better than that. Saving his right hand is also a set-up for the reveal that *Murphy is left-handed* and his human instinct is to draw and fire his weapon from the *left* side. This means that later on in the movie, Murphy shooting with his right hand is a tell that the machine is in control. My guess is that the symbolism was deemed too confusing for test audiences.
The remake makes murphy undergo the opposite process compared to the original, in the remake he gradually loses his humanity, while in the original he is remade into a machine and his human self slowly awakens during the course of the film.
The most WTF cut scene ever. Terminator 2, the scene with John and Sara Conor removing Skynets learning inhibitor chip from the Terminator's skull. The execution of that scene is absolutely jaw dropping and it explains the final scene when the Terminator tells John "I know now why you cry."
@@Ron_Connor The cut scene is where John and Sara Conor take out the Terminators learning inhibitor chip "WHICH" sets up the later scene where the Terminator explains that he's learned why humans cry. I didn't say that scene was cut. I said the cut scene sets up that later scene which is not cut.
What? That scene wasn’t cut. Unless the dvd release is different from the theater release. Every dvd I’ve ever seen of terminator 2 has that scene in it
@@roughfoxy101 In the theatrical release they cutout the conversation where Sarah asks the Terminator "what's to keep you from going rogue" and the terminator tells her about the inhibitor chip. They just cut straight to Sarah pulling bullets out of the Terminator and John asking if the Terminator feels pain.
The “They made this to honour him “ scene was Murphy lying to his wife, so she could move on. It's an act of sacrifice by Murphy, as well as his final acceptance that Robocop is who he is now.
I've got a friend who's an extreme RoboCop fan, and because of that, he sat us all down to watch all of the RoboCop movies, so we did. 1 was, as we observed, one of the most brilliantly efficient movies we've ever seen. Nearly every scene lasts exactly as long as it needs to for what it needs to do, easily one of the greatest films of all time. 2 was...a bit weaker, but still had an interesting dynamic of RoboCop becoming a bit too sanitized because of how advertiser-unfriendly his actual existence is. The villains were okay too, I guess. Then, we watched 3. Well...more appropriately, we got exactly as far into 3 as it took for RoboCop to show up on screen, and then we all quit, because he had literally become that sanitized, advertiser-friendly caricature that 2 had specifically mocked. After that, we watched the remake, and we were pleasantly surprised. Sure, it was cringe, it was soulless, it completely missed the point of the original movie, but we all pretty much agreed that, because we managed to finish it, we rated it higher than RoboCop 3.
I love how RoboCop gives exactly what the title implies, but if that's all you get from the movie, then you literally missed pretty much the whole movie
In the original, they use Murphy's real face and put it on a metal skull. You can tell it's his real face because he has the bullet hole in the top of his head where he got shot.
"They made this to honor him" He wasn't talking about the face. He was referring to himself as a thing rather than a person to try to convince his wife that he really was dead and gone and there was nothing of him left in there. It is his real face and they made sure to include the scar from the bullet wound to the right side of his forehead.
In Robocop 2 when he says "they made this to honor him" he was talking about Robocop in general. Not the face. That's really Alex Murphy's face. It's got a bullet hole in it.
My favorite deleted scenes that got cut are from Harry Potter Deathly Hallows with Harry saying his goodbyes to the Dursleys. The other cut scene that drives me nuts it wasn't included was from Revenge of the Sith were Obi tells Padme he always new about them, but turned a blind eye to it.
For deleted scenes: the Director's Cut of the Daredevil movie. That cut adds back in all the deleted things from the theatrical release, and while it is still not a great movie, it makes it a more watchable movie. Like when you watch it, you end up saying to yourself, "Why was that cut out? It explains alot."
I adore Robocop, always have. I sat down to watch the Robocop remake. Once it was done, I realized I didn't know the name of the people who killed Murphy. Only to realize... they didn't kill Murphy.
Thank you for finally addressing the most aggravating part of that movie. The part that really killed me about it is that the hand isn't even really attached to the body, it has its own stand in the scene where they remove the suit. So it's like a Bluetooth hand, for literally no reason.
12:29 I just realized that the hand is even worst than you imagine. You see the muscles to move your fingers are not in the hand, they are on the forearm. Since they only kept from the wrist forward the hand would no be able to move. lol. In short its not a hand its glove made of human skin.
The examples I like to give about the shift between moments that work moments that don't are the big quote references to the original. "Dead or alive you're coming with me" - a line that works in the new context "I WOULDN'T buy that for a dollar" - a line that's extremely forced and out of place
Always thought Murphy was a cyborg as opposed to a robot. Also would have thought even tho the new one had a hand, smart money would have it in an armoured glove when on task.
Deleted Scene from Doctor Strange in his battle at the end against Dormammu, there is a scene where Dr. Strange says something like "we've been over this 1,000 times" to let you know how many times Stange was killed by Dormammu and it looped back
I had an edible for the first time a half hour before sitting down in the theater to watch this movie. My entire impression of the film is Samuel L Jackson screaming at me personally and the sensation that I was going to catch fire if I didn't stop vibrating. That said, I think I had a better time watching it than most people.
Re: removing the arm in the original. Its not just that they didn't want him to have a weak point. The doctors are excited that they managed to save part of Murphy. They still see him as a human being that they are granting a new chance at life. Morton sees him as a product, an asset, something he can use to improve his life. Its how he views most people throughout the film, until he makes the mistake of seeing Bodicker the same way. Part of the larger commentary that greedy 80s businessmen were soulless and inhuman, which is ironic when compared to Robocop who was literally inhuman
A few lawyers on TH-cam have done videos on the legal ramifications of a Robocop having a human hand vs not having a human hand. Technically, if a cop with a robot arm shoots someone unlawfully, the victim or their family could potentially get around the Qualified Immunity doctrine and sue OCP by claiming the arm was a faulty product. Preserving the brain, the trigger finger, and the nerves between the two would make it clear that Murphy was in control of his own decision to fire his service weapon. At least up until OCP starts messing with his senses and deliberately using brain surgery to alter Murphy's judgement.
Another missed opportunity for me in the remake was the whole thing of the mask coming down shuts off his decision making part of his brain. Could of had a moment but no, just used it as a "beast mode"
I do wonder if there was some aspect of actor comfort involved as well. Having one hand free would make it easier to eat or use a phone while on set between scenes.
I never heard that explanation before. What I had heard was that we can't make anything as sensitive and precise as a human hand can be. Before someone tells me how sensitive modern sensors are there was a test they did with a master safe cracker showing how sensitive his hands were by using various things in place of the tumblers he would normally work with and no matter how light the touch he was able to identify where it came in contact with the dial by touch.
In regards to the original face reveal, I love how the recent Guardians of the Galaxy 3 clearly tried to ape that with the High Evolutionary but even 36 years later, and 9 years after the reboot, it still looked bad.
As much as I hate to admit that I somewhat liked the 2014, I think it's more so because I just wanted to see Robocop continue to be made in modern days. My first ever video game was Robocop Vs Terminator -- and I just want more Robocop in my life.
I have a recurring fantasy about a film called *_Deleted Scenes,_* which is made up entirely of deleted scenes -- some are actual deleted scenes from films (famous or obscure), some are faked (with CGI or just with actors doing an approximation of the original performers, or faked deleted scenes from animated films done in the original film's style). Some would be things like the CGI-recreated crevasse scene from the 1933 *_King Kong,_* or the CGI recreation of the unfilmed finale to Hitchcock's *_The Birds_* (with the car driving across a Golden Gate Bridge with thousands of birds perching on it) which ought to be filmed. Some would be comedic bits similar to the "alternate ending" to *_It's a Wonderful Life_* shown on *_Saturday Night Live._* Not sure whether it would have a framing sequence of people stumbling upon a hidden stash of deleted footage, or a pair of critics pompously critiquing the scenes, or if they'd just be a bunch of deleted scenes spliced together.
Looking up "Snowpiercer sequel" showed results saying "Is Snowpiercer a sequel to Wily Wonka and the chocolate factory" and now I am just confused why people think that o.o
It is a fan theory that if I remember correctly had some good evidence but it will never be more than headcanon. I belive that he meant the series snowpiercer which I think is pretty great and it do go places.
Im glad ive come across the channel. Such great topics and outlandish stuff ive wondered about and the questions i didnt know how to ask about this movie but you provided.
I remember hating the human hand in my robocop reboot toy (I was a target audience child who ESPECIALLY didn’t get the flesh hand) it felt like my toy was defected and unsymmetrical
My favourite deleted scene personally is in PotC: Dead Man's Chest. The Liar's dice scene is supposed to have another game just between Davy Jones and Will where Will wins and it adds so much additional characterisation to Jones. Every time I watch Dead Man's Chest I pause the movie to watch the extended version of the scene.
Didn't they mention it was because it legally had to be a human hand pulling the trigger? I like both explanations and actually like the flick, though it is no original Robocop.
The biggest issue with the Robocop from 2014 is that they changed a fundamental part without a script telling a story around it. Alex M. in the 2014 is basically an amputee, with a high tech artificial body. The idea that OCP is using him as a way to persuade law makers to change drone laws makes no sense. Alex is still very much a person, regardless of his artificial body. Therefore I don't know what story they are telling, at all. In the 1987 ver, Alex Murphy died. OCP used portions of his brain, and face to create a whole new cybernetic organism. A product to be controlled and used. All posible thanks in part to the privatization of the police force. We see the struggle as he regains a semblance of what he was, without actually recovering his memories or reverting to his original self. It tells a story about what makes up a person as Robocop becomes more than a product. It's also a tale of justice. The 2014 felt hollow, because it was. From the script level, it was directionless, despite creating a new premise that I found super interesting and compelling, but nothing came of it.
I think the remake of Total Recall did something similar in changing a fundamental part of the original and it falling apart as a result; they removed the fact there were people with mutations. While it seems like a minor detail that you can surely do without because 'what does it actually add to the original?' it's actually absolutely vital to the plot. The entire reason they go through with the mind wipe thing to make Quaid the most convincing spy possible is because there were rumours the rebel leader had a mutation that let him read minds. Quaid HAD to not know so the rebels couldn't find out from him. The remake did away with the mutant aspect to make it more realistic and, as a result, the whole movie stops making any sense because why do the mind wipe in the first place??
@@tpbloomfield It also did such a good job making the end in such a way it makes you entirely question if it was real or all the "Blue Skies over Mars" simulation, all by simply ending showing Blue Skies forming over Mars then fading to black.
I would say the fact Murphy didn't die in the reboot makes it a bit more sinister because now he has to question whether or not his actions are his own or someone else controlling him like before. It would be a constant reminder that he isn't really "himself" any more.
@@YEs69th420 I don't know about any of the other scenes, but the unveiling of how much of Alex is left, as Alex sees his entire body dismantled, was really well done. It hit me right in the dread in a scene that, as a tech nerd, would have otherwise made me fascinated. The begging way Alex wants to be put back together nailed it with the horror and quiet despair after the building way the anxious disbelief ratchets up and up. That scene alone tells me that they were _capable_ , it's just that for some reason they somehow didn't connect that, the scene where he's made to run through sims and his thoughts are "adjusted for efficiency", and the whole... rest of the film together. Like if I showed you just the sim training and the reveal of what's left that's human scenes, you'd think it's a great film about psychological horror, body horror, and the concept of free will and brainwashing in service of a corporation-owned privatized police force paramilitary, but... The reboot somehow manages to take the old RoboCop, successfully _inverts_ the premise (rather than the soul and its humanity reawakening from the body's memory, it's the soul's memories reawakening humanity despite the body being missing), and then completely fails nail the REST of the commentary Verhoeven put in it.
In the original RoboCop there is a line about him still having a human arm/hand and was told to remove it so his limbs were fully robotic. Found it interesting that they kept it in the remake. My issue with the remake is the fight at the warehouse. Murphy just waxes everyone with ease.
You bring up some good points on the human parts being a weakness, whats even worse and nonsensical is the weakness the Cyborg has to his human parts, Imagine what happens to that hand if he trips? Not even a fracture, it would be like dropping half a ton on a hand.
i watched the film not too long ago, The reason they kept the human hand was a Political move. Because the main congressman who was holding up the ability to have drones working on US soil said that the People of the US wont allow a non human hand pulling the trigger.
The Robocop remake is exactly what you get when you let OCP mess with Robo's programming and he chastise's people for bad language leading to bad feelings 😂
Alex Murphy doesn't have a synthetic mask, it's his original fleshy face (you can clearly see the bullet hole) His comment of "they made this to honour him" was (I believe) directed at himself as a whole. ..which further hammers home the inhuman perspective.
I thought differently. He was lying to his wife, trying to save her the pain of thinking this was her husband. He was telling her it's a fake rubber face, "build to honour him" so that she thinks her husband is dead and can go on with her life. It was Murphy trying to spare his wife with a lie.
They made this to honor him... showed his humanity... he wanted his wife to be at ease. Him saying to her. I DONT KNOW YOU he said so that she was no longer tortured thinking what could be and move on with her life. He also showed humanity... showing comfort to an enemy that had tortured him because he knew he was a dying scared little kid. They really dropped the ball with part 2.. should of been so much better
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Fans tend to argue about the Alien eggmorphing scene like it contradicts Aliens and a "Queen Facehugger" But no. The Alien Xenomorph is meant to be the perfect predator. You'd think that each alien would have reproductive redundancies, it can live in space! We see older Xenos grow into Queens in extended media. I can totally imagine it's body response is "Welp, there's no queen near by, and we haven't reached queen-morphing stage yet, I need to turn victims into eggs!" Its like no matter what, even if there is a single Xenomorph left, it will find a means to reproduce. where there is one, more will always follow. That adds to the horror of how unstoppable they are. But nah, Alien fans will argue over the Xenomorph lifecycle.
It's been a while since I last saw Robocop 2, but I'm pretty sure that when he tells his wife that they "made it to honour murphy" it was him lying to her in order to get her to stop trying to see him and move on with her life [I don't remember if he was feeling bad for her, was too scared to try to reconnect, or if someone threatened her.] It really IS his face, they didn't just make a fake one and decide to include the bullet hole.
If the new RoboCop had a real hard and a prosthetic arm, how an earth do you get the blood supply from his heart to his hand? In one scene, you have just his torso and his human hand is separate while he is attached to a stand with pipes and cables coming out of his head and torso. How would you keep the hand alive?
I'd assume a solution that's essentially a fascimile of real, organic blood, just synthetic and capable of carrying oxygen and nutrients to the squishy hand, and using a pump system that's similar to the circulatory system, when detached it has its own little reservoir or is connected to a recreation of a circulatory system with a nutrient system attached to it to simulate a human body, but since the 'squishy' hand is an actual cybernetic hand covered in what I assume to be very lifelike synthetic skin or something, like the Terminator's living skin covering, there's no need to get a blood supply to the hand if the hand is fake.
Talking about networks cutting scenes... I saw Desperado on USA network. For those that don't know... USE heavily censored stuff... They cut out every cuss word and bloody gunshot in Desperado. I would like to see a comparison to the original because II think they cut 20% of the runtime at minimum...
the hand is even dumber than it sounds for one key problem. how much torque is that robot arm putting on those feeble human hand bones? yea that sucker is getting ripped off first time he needs to mobe faster than a snails pace, no bullets required.
I have a recurring fantasy about a film called *_Deleted Scenes,_* which is made up entirely of deleted scenes -- some are actual deleted scenes from films (famous or obscure), some are faked (with CGI or just with actors doing an approximation of the original performers, or faked deleted scenes from animated films done in the original film's style). Some would be things like the CGI-recreated crevasse scene from the 1933 *_King Kong,_* or the CGI recreation of the unfilmed finale to Hitchcock's *_The Birds_* (with the car driving across a Golden Gate Bridge with thousands of birds perching on it) which ought to be filmed. Some would be comedic bits similar to the "alternate ending" to *_It's a Wonderful Life_* shown on *_Saturday Night Live._* Not sure whether it would have a framing sequence of people stumbling upon a hidden stash of deleted footage, or a pair of critics pompously critiquing the scenes, or if they'd just be a bunch of deleted scenes spliced together.
I actually really enjoyed the remake. I think the guy off camera was getting close to another one of the themes which explains why they made him so human from the beginning. It's suppose to blur the line between human and ai pros and cons and how far should we should take technology integration going into the future. I think while both movies touch on each other's major themes, both movies stand on their own. Also, you could argue he looks more uncanny in the original, but I didn't really have a problem believing the 8ft tall skintight metallic man running at 30 mph was not human. Also also, as our own technology advanced, I think audiences would be suprised to see a robotic man move as clunkly and slow as the original did. I think modern audiences would expect the technology shown in the 2014 remake. While original was very cool, he didn't move very fast and was often out maneuvered.
It doesn't. The one scene where it appears to be on the left side is when his body is disassembled to show the remains of Murphy. That scene is shown to us through a mirror.
The Edward Norton Hulk cut opening where Banner tries to shoot himself but turns into Hulk and spits out the bullet it's later mentioned in one of the Avengers movies
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Time index 15:48, that is what I assumed it always was; a robotic hand with human flesh stretched over it. Otherwise it is a liability and how can it be expected to perform as well as the robotic one? It won't have the robotic strength necessary to rip off an ED-208's head; which happens in the warehouse scene. BTW, in the novel, one of Robocop's arms, possibly just the hand is still human. Or my recall of a book I read 30 yrs ago is off.
"RoboCop" was ordinary, in every way, just like Hollywood wants. But there was only 2 minutes of humanity that I appreciated, when the "thing" remembered being someone.
One notable deleted scene is 2015 Biff's death from Back to the Future 2. It gives credence to Eric Stoltz's idea that an entire timeline is effectively killed off when the timeline changes
I used to think it was supposed to be like a reverse gunslinger thing, you know, like those cowboy stories, where the mysterious stranger wonders into town, wearing 1 glove on his shooting hand.
its even stupider when you remember the scene where Mattox is talking to Robocop about his weapons and armor, ends up talking crap about robocop to his face insinuating hes not human, and alex offers him the robot hand to shake instead of the human hand 🤦♀
Not sure you're right about the OG's face. The most prominent feature of his face is he still has the bullet wound in his forehead. When he says "They made this..." he's talking about himself, Robocop as a whole, in order to convince his wife to move on with her life by pretending he isn't really Alex.
It would've also worked for it to be done as a slimy loophole. I think there are international agreements on machine warfare that often bring up that you can't make drones that can kill off of programming alone, there has to be "a human pulling the trigger" So that would work with the criticism of drone warfare.
It was supposed to be Murphy's real face in the original. He only said what he did to his wife to try and find closure with her. There's even the bullet hole still left on his temple from when he was "killed". If it was just a mask they wouldn't leave that in. You can even see the metal in the bullet hole. I remember a tech saying it was his real face, too.
I watched the first half (my skybox didn't record the second half) on tv and I thought they kept a human hand as the US refused to have a robot pulling the trigger roaming the streets. But they would tolerate a human pulling the trigger, leading to them creating this robocop.
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Hey crew what would you name a remake
One more thing about the hand. There's a scene near the end where he gets trapped and must tear off his hand to continue. However, they did it with his robot hand. It could've been a really meaningful thing with him questioning giving up the last remnant of his humanity, and it even kinda looks like that was the original idea for the scene.
If only they did something meaningful in that shit reboot.
Oof. Can we get a few Fs in chat for creativity?
So a painless sacrifice. Maybe if he used his robot hand to shoot the whole movie and had to rely on his humanity once more, but he shoots with human hand anyway.
@@lunalegion bruh yall say "shit reboot" like the robocop series wasnt always the corniest shit ever lmfao the fuck you mean
@@haggis0257 Nah mate, Robo uses his robot hand to kill, and his human hand for pleasure. 😏😏
Deleted scenes that alter characterization: Anakin trying to get into the Archives to look into Force Healing to save Padme, only to be told that it's restricted to only those with the rank of Master... which makes his temper tantrum in the council less of him throwing a diva-fit, and more of an actual, justified frustration as another avenue of doing things the 'right' way is cut off to him.
really? damn
like the Jedi aren't great at the best of times but stopping someone from learning a healing technique for no good reason is horrible.
@@fairystail1 it's not force heal specifically, there's a vault called the restricted section that's only available to masters. It's filled with prophecies, advanced techniques, and almost everything about sith and the darkside.
One of the old EU books mentions that this, along with the temple being built on a sith shrine, is how Palpatine clouded the order's vision and diminished their connection to the force. A monument to their hubris. Hence converting the temple into the imperial palace.
What? WHY WOULD THEY CUT THAT OUT, THAT MAKES SO MUCH MORE SENSE!!
@@seasnaill2589 they cut out a few hours of film. Mainly for time.
@@fairystail1 Not for no reason. That which can be used for good can also be used for evil. Not everything that can be saved should be saved. It is against the code of the Jedi to interfere with life and death unless completely necessary. Only a master can make the determination as to whether or not something is necessary
It would’ve been fantastic to have them specify that the company wanted to keep the hand to show the public that it is the man that pulls the trigger not the machine, only to later reveal that the hand was fake the entire time and that any semblance of humanity had always been a carefully constructed corporate lie.
Not including it is like having a slasher film that doesn't kill the couple having sex or doesn't kill the black guy.
They could have used a similar effect to the face in the original for the hand, essentially showing that it's just a facade for (in-universe) PR.
So the thing is a lot of people dig on the hand as they feel it’s heavy-handed, but like in the original RoboCop during the hospital scene, one of the OCP guys say can we save the hand? And decision fuck it in the reboot. The CEO says let’s keep the hand because a strong handshake is good for like making first impressions so the hand is actually a deep cut first actually original film.
I absolutely prefer the original who actually had to reclaim his emotions and personality after the cyborgisation process.
And in that one the dialogue "we managed to save his arm" followed by the angry and callous "lose it, we agreed on full prostetics." Made the OCP and its leaders instant monsters.
I prefer the original as well but I also like the idea of him slowly having his humanity stripped away as the company starts exerting more of their control over him. Idk it’s the difference of a robot thinking it’s a man vs a man who slowly realizes he’s a robot
*Cyborgisation*
Their entire idea is evil and makes them monsters though. Then attempting to make a loophole out of forcing a man to obey their every will in a robo body as an idea is evil.
The fact he heard them say this between periods of consciousness is very dark and savage.
The idea that the human hand represents the human pulling the trigger in drone warfare, which would THEN be revealed to actually just be a robotic hand made to look human would be an excellent commentary on how even those people pulling the trigger of the drones are themselves drones of a different kind in the military industrial complex.
Genius idea
They said during the training bits that they intended the computer bits to make it feel like he was making decisions when it was in fact the computer making those decisions. So it was supposed to be a fake hand purely for pr purposes. He's not actually supposed to have any real humanity left. But in regards to free will, instead of organics
"Keep the right hand. We need a piece of him that cap keep people at ease. Like a handshake."
Doctor looks visibly concerned before nodding and saying "I can try."
Robocop later has a human hand that he uses as intended, to keep people at ease in a cheap facsimile to humanity, while keeping the symbolism of a drone still having a human piloting it.
Later in the movie he needs to chose to sever the hand, his last bit of his human self that has been slowly erased from him over the course of the movie, a vain attempt in thinking that if he loses his hand he'll also lose himself to his creators. Later on he goes to retrieve it, noticing that there's no blood he takes the hand out of the crushed metal that trapped him before and realizes that the hand was also robotic the entire time. It was made to look human. And he realizes that while the machine imitates humanity, he doesn't need it to keep his real humanity. His mind and soul.
This small rewrite would have made the movie 1000x better. I mean everything else about the movie would still be bad but this is definitely a step in the right direction.
It's even better than that. Saving his right hand is also a set-up for the reveal that *Murphy is left-handed* and his human instinct is to draw and fire his weapon from the *left* side.
This means that later on in the movie, Murphy shooting with his right hand is a tell that the machine is in control.
My guess is that the symbolism was deemed too confusing for test audiences.
The remake makes murphy undergo the opposite process compared to the original, in the remake he gradually loses his humanity, while in the original he is remade into a machine and his human self slowly awakens during the course of the film.
The most WTF cut scene ever. Terminator 2, the scene with John and Sara Conor removing Skynets learning inhibitor chip from the Terminator's skull. The execution of that scene is absolutely jaw dropping and it explains the final scene when the Terminator tells John "I know now why you cry."
The Terminator inquires about humans crying in a different scene which has always been in the film
@@Ron_Connor The cut scene is where John and Sara Conor take out the Terminators learning inhibitor chip "WHICH" sets up the later scene where the Terminator explains that he's learned why humans cry. I didn't say that scene was cut. I said the cut scene sets up that later scene which is not cut.
What? That scene wasn’t cut. Unless the dvd release is different from the theater release. Every dvd I’ve ever seen of terminator 2 has that scene in it
@@roughfoxy101 In the theatrical release they cutout the conversation where Sarah asks the Terminator "what's to keep you from going rogue" and the terminator tells her about the inhibitor chip. They just cut straight to Sarah pulling bullets out of the Terminator and John asking if the Terminator feels pain.
@@afrolund80 huh, I feel strange I didn’t know that. I guess dvd’s have just spoiled me lol
I love how they brought back the green screen, but just as a prop.
The “They made this to honour him “ scene was Murphy lying to his wife, so she could move on. It's an act of sacrifice by Murphy, as well as his final acceptance that Robocop is who he is now.
I've got a friend who's an extreme RoboCop fan, and because of that, he sat us all down to watch all of the RoboCop movies, so we did. 1 was, as we observed, one of the most brilliantly efficient movies we've ever seen. Nearly every scene lasts exactly as long as it needs to for what it needs to do, easily one of the greatest films of all time. 2 was...a bit weaker, but still had an interesting dynamic of RoboCop becoming a bit too sanitized because of how advertiser-unfriendly his actual existence is. The villains were okay too, I guess.
Then, we watched 3. Well...more appropriately, we got exactly as far into 3 as it took for RoboCop to show up on screen, and then we all quit, because he had literally become that sanitized, advertiser-friendly caricature that 2 had specifically mocked. After that, we watched the remake, and we were pleasantly surprised. Sure, it was cringe, it was soulless, it completely missed the point of the original movie, but we all pretty much agreed that, because we managed to finish it, we rated it higher than RoboCop 3.
I love how RoboCop gives exactly what the title implies, but if that's all you get from the movie, then you literally missed pretty much the whole movie
In the original, they use Murphy's real face and put it on a metal skull.
You can tell it's his real face because he has the bullet hole in the top of his head where he got shot.
"They made this to honor him" He wasn't talking about the face. He was referring to himself as a thing rather than a person to try to convince his wife that he really was dead and gone and there was nothing of him left in there. It is his real face and they made sure to include the scar from the bullet wound to the right side of his forehead.
yeah. sometimes people read way too much into things.... or too little.
it’s not his real face, his whole head got blown up. they try to recreate it the best they can off of his skull, which is why the mark is there.
In Robocop 2 when he says "they made this to honor him" he was talking about Robocop in general. Not the face. That's really Alex Murphy's face. It's got a bullet hole in it.
Robocop 2014 was written by people who were kids when the first Robocop came out and thought it was just a superhero movie.
No it was made by people who were not allowed to watch the move when they were kids. So experienced it through toy ads.
The sad thing is that they got the perfect director for the remake, and then completely refused to give him creative control.
Infidels, that is sacrelig to the original😡😤
80s were an interesting time. @NatsumenoKage
My favorite deleted scenes that got cut are from Harry Potter Deathly Hallows with Harry saying his goodbyes to the Dursleys. The other cut scene that drives me nuts it wasn't included was from Revenge of the Sith were Obi tells Padme he always new about them, but turned a blind eye to it.
For deleted scenes: the Director's Cut of the Daredevil movie. That cut adds back in all the deleted things from the theatrical release, and while it is still not a great movie, it makes it a more watchable movie. Like when you watch it, you end up saying to yourself, "Why was that cut out? It explains alot."
Between all of the courtroom scenes that were added back in, and the removal of the awful love story, it's almost like a completely different movie.
I adore Robocop, always have. I sat down to watch the Robocop remake. Once it was done, I realized I didn't know the name of the people who killed Murphy. Only to realize... they didn't kill Murphy.
You learn who killed Murphy at the end. It's called the credits.
@@vxicepickxv trick question. Murphy didn't die in the remake.
Thank you for finally addressing the most aggravating part of that movie. The part that really killed me about it is that the hand isn't even really attached to the body, it has its own stand in the scene where they remove the suit. So it's like a Bluetooth hand, for literally no reason.
12:29 I just realized that the hand is even worst than you imagine.
You see the muscles to move your fingers are not in the hand, they are on the forearm.
Since they only kept from the wrist forward the hand would no be able to move. lol.
In short its not a hand its glove made of human skin.
The sound design in the original Robocop should have won every Oscar.
The examples I like to give about the shift between moments that work moments that don't are the big quote references to the original.
"Dead or alive you're coming with me" - a line that works in the new context
"I WOULDN'T buy that for a dollar" - a line that's extremely forced and out of place
Always thought Murphy was a cyborg as opposed to a robot. Also would have thought even tho the new one had a hand, smart money would have it in an armoured glove when on task.
He absolutely should be called CyboCop. That would be a good title for the knockoff film.
I hope to god Karl's Robocop ass tattoo is just "ROB" on the left cheek and "COP" on the right.
Deleted Scene from Doctor Strange
in his battle at the end against Dormammu, there is a scene where Dr. Strange says something like "we've been over this 1,000 times"
to let you know how many times Stange was killed by Dormammu and it looped back
I had an edible for the first time a half hour before sitting down in the theater to watch this movie. My entire impression of the film is Samuel L Jackson screaming at me personally and the sensation that I was going to catch fire if I didn't stop vibrating. That said, I think I had a better time watching it than most people.
all it took was being high
Been there I had mushrooms and edibles for the last season of stranger things lol
Mushrooms and sitting near the front for The Matrix! Tripped me out.
@@BrickNewton never thought of that 🤔
Re: removing the arm in the original. Its not just that they didn't want him to have a weak point. The doctors are excited that they managed to save part of Murphy. They still see him as a human being that they are granting a new chance at life. Morton sees him as a product, an asset, something he can use to improve his life. Its how he views most people throughout the film, until he makes the mistake of seeing Bodicker the same way. Part of the larger commentary that greedy 80s businessmen were soulless and inhuman, which is ironic when compared to Robocop who was literally inhuman
A few lawyers on TH-cam have done videos on the legal ramifications of a Robocop having a human hand vs not having a human hand.
Technically, if a cop with a robot arm shoots someone unlawfully, the victim or their family could potentially get around the Qualified Immunity doctrine and sue OCP by claiming the arm was a faulty product.
Preserving the brain, the trigger finger, and the nerves between the two would make it clear that Murphy was in control of his own decision to fire his service weapon.
At least up until OCP starts messing with his senses and deliberately using brain surgery to alter Murphy's judgement.
That actually makes sense. They'd keep a human hand to protect themselves from lawsuits
"A man TRAPPED within a machine"
That just boils it down what the OG robocop's vibes down to a tee.
Another missed opportunity for me in the remake was the whole thing of the mask coming down shuts off his decision making part of his brain. Could of had a moment but no, just used it as a "beast mode"
The one thing the reboot does excel at is the sound design, I’m not an expert and can’t explain why I love it so much it just goes so hard
The second train was called Icebreaker. In fact, there were 10 perpetual trains, each named different, and designed different.
I do wonder if there was some aspect of actor comfort involved as well. Having one hand free would make it easier to eat or use a phone while on set between scenes.
The new Robocop looks too much like Cyclops from the X-Men
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I like how the conversation abiut the importance of human contact is juxtaposed by the fact the conversation is happening over a video call...
I never heard that explanation before. What I had heard was that we can't make anything as sensitive and precise as a human hand can be. Before someone tells me how sensitive modern sensors are there was a test they did with a master safe cracker showing how sensitive his hands were by using various things in place of the tumblers he would normally work with and no matter how light the touch he was able to identify where it came in contact with the dial by touch.
In regards to the original face reveal, I love how the recent Guardians of the Galaxy 3 clearly tried to ape that with the High Evolutionary but even 36 years later, and 9 years after the reboot, it still looked bad.
I was born in 91 and I remember having a Robocop toy when I was a kid. I never saw the movie back then, and clearly my parents didn't either.
My parents for sure saw it. Still let me have the toy,lol
As much as I hate to admit that I somewhat liked the 2014, I think it's more so because I just wanted to see Robocop continue to be made in modern days.
My first ever video game was Robocop Vs Terminator -- and I just want more Robocop in my life.
You'd be better off watching the four films after Robocop 3 and the TV show, they're bad but still better than the remake.
@@scottneil1187 there are 4 MORE films after Robocop 3????
Please explain?!@@scottneil1187
I haven’t had fact fiend in my suggested feed from my subscriptions for forever
people always give karl a hard time for going of topic but i am here for the crazy of topic rants they are so fun
Doing a video entirely about wrongfully cut scenes would be sweet!
I have a recurring fantasy about a film called *_Deleted Scenes,_* which is made up entirely of deleted scenes -- some are actual deleted scenes from films (famous or obscure), some are faked (with CGI or just with actors doing an approximation of the original performers, or faked deleted scenes from animated films done in the original film's style). Some would be things like the CGI-recreated crevasse scene from the 1933 *_King Kong,_* or the CGI recreation of the unfilmed finale to Hitchcock's *_The Birds_* (with the car driving across a Golden Gate Bridge with thousands of birds perching on it) which ought to be filmed. Some would be comedic bits similar to the "alternate ending" to *_It's a Wonderful Life_* shown on *_Saturday Night Live._*
Not sure whether it would have a framing sequence of people stumbling upon a hidden stash of deleted footage, or a pair of critics pompously critiquing the scenes, or if they'd just be a bunch of deleted scenes spliced together.
Looking up "Snowpiercer sequel" showed results saying "Is Snowpiercer a sequel to Wily Wonka and the chocolate factory" and now I am just confused why people think that o.o
It is a fan theory that if I remember correctly had some good evidence but it will never be more than headcanon. I belive that he meant the series snowpiercer which I think is pretty great and it do go places.
That electric hum long before Robo enters a room was epic.
Im glad ive come across the channel. Such great topics and outlandish stuff ive wondered about and the questions i didnt know how to ask about this movie but you provided.
I remember hating the human hand in my robocop reboot toy (I was a target audience child who ESPECIALLY didn’t get the flesh hand) it felt like my toy was defected and unsymmetrical
haven't seen a fact fiend video in months and had this recommended to me. I've missed yall.
My favourite deleted scene personally is in PotC: Dead Man's Chest. The Liar's dice scene is supposed to have another game just between Davy Jones and Will where Will wins and it adds so much additional characterisation to Jones.
Every time I watch Dead Man's Chest I pause the movie to watch the extended version of the scene.
Didn't they mention it was because it legally had to be a human hand pulling the trigger? I like both explanations and actually like the flick, though it is no original Robocop.
Same
The biggest issue with the Robocop from 2014 is that they changed a fundamental part without a script telling a story around it.
Alex M. in the 2014 is basically an amputee, with a high tech artificial body. The idea that OCP is using him as a way to persuade law makers to change drone laws makes no sense. Alex is still very much a person, regardless of his artificial body. Therefore I don't know what story they are telling, at all.
In the 1987 ver, Alex Murphy died. OCP used portions of his brain, and face to create a whole new cybernetic organism. A product to be controlled and used. All posible thanks in part to the privatization of the police force. We see the struggle as he regains a semblance of what he was, without actually recovering his memories or reverting to his original self. It tells a story about what makes up a person as Robocop becomes more than a product. It's also a tale of justice.
The 2014 felt hollow, because it was. From the script level, it was directionless, despite creating a new premise that I found super interesting and compelling, but nothing came of it.
I think the remake of Total Recall did something similar in changing a fundamental part of the original and it falling apart as a result; they removed the fact there were people with mutations. While it seems like a minor detail that you can surely do without because 'what does it actually add to the original?' it's actually absolutely vital to the plot. The entire reason they go through with the mind wipe thing to make Quaid the most convincing spy possible is because there were rumours the rebel leader had a mutation that let him read minds. Quaid HAD to not know so the rebels couldn't find out from him.
The remake did away with the mutant aspect to make it more realistic and, as a result, the whole movie stops making any sense because why do the mind wipe in the first place??
@@tpbloomfield It also did such a good job making the end in such a way it makes you entirely question if it was real or all the "Blue Skies over Mars" simulation, all by simply ending showing Blue Skies forming over Mars then fading to black.
I would say the fact Murphy didn't die in the reboot makes it a bit more sinister because now he has to question whether or not his actions are his own or someone else controlling him like before. It would be a constant reminder that he isn't really "himself" any more.
@@jovenc4508 A more competent creative team would have ran with this concept and made something special.
@@YEs69th420 I don't know about any of the other scenes, but the unveiling of how much of Alex is left, as Alex sees his entire body dismantled, was really well done. It hit me right in the dread in a scene that, as a tech nerd, would have otherwise made me fascinated. The begging way Alex wants to be put back together nailed it with the horror and quiet despair after the building way the anxious disbelief ratchets up and up.
That scene alone tells me that they were _capable_ , it's just that for some reason they somehow didn't connect that, the scene where he's made to run through sims and his thoughts are "adjusted for efficiency", and the whole... rest of the film together.
Like if I showed you just the sim training and the reveal of what's left that's human scenes, you'd think it's a great film about psychological horror, body horror, and the concept of free will and brainwashing in service of a corporation-owned privatized police force paramilitary, but...
The reboot somehow manages to take the old RoboCop, successfully _inverts_ the premise (rather than the soul and its humanity reawakening from the body's memory, it's the soul's memories reawakening humanity despite the body being missing), and then completely fails nail the REST of the commentary Verhoeven put in it.
In the original RoboCop there is a line about him still having a human arm/hand and was told to remove it so his limbs were fully robotic. Found it interesting that they kept it in the remake. My issue with the remake is the fight at the warehouse. Murphy just waxes everyone with ease.
i was ok with that
"the human spirit" thing was what bothered me
You bring up some good points on the human parts being a weakness, whats even worse and nonsensical is the weakness the Cyborg has to his human parts, Imagine what happens to that hand if he trips? Not even a fracture, it would be like dropping half a ton on a hand.
i watched the film not too long ago, The reason they kept the human hand was a Political move. Because the main congressman who was holding up the ability to have drones working on US soil said that the People of the US wont allow a non human hand pulling the trigger.
The Original Wicker Man has a totally different vibe, more on the creepy end. That actor played the original Equalizer :) Edward Woodward
Original Equalizer was awesome, loved the theme tune.
I will say the reboot had shouting matches between Gary Oldman and Michael Keaton, so in some respects it’s the greatest movie of all time
The Robocop remake is exactly what you get when you let OCP mess with Robo's programming and he chastise's people for bad language leading to bad feelings 😂
I managed to convince my parents that your channel is an online class, so i can watch Fact Fiend instead of study
Thank you.
As an ancient bog lady i have to say: fuck yeah, you youngings are killing it
Alex Murphy doesn't have a synthetic mask, it's his original fleshy face (you can clearly see the bullet hole)
His comment of "they made this to honour him" was (I believe) directed at himself as a whole.
..which further hammers home the inhuman perspective.
I thought differently. He was lying to his wife, trying to save her the pain of thinking this was her husband. He was telling her it's a fake rubber face, "build to honour him" so that she thinks her husband is dead and can go on with her life. It was Murphy trying to spare his wife with a lie.
They made this to honor him... showed his humanity... he wanted his wife to be at ease. Him saying to her. I DONT KNOW YOU he said so that she was no longer tortured thinking what could be and move on with her life. He also showed humanity... showing comfort to an enemy that had tortured him because he knew he was a dying scared little kid. They really dropped the ball with part 2.. should of been so much better
Joel Kinnaman is a good actor. You just have to put him in a film that doesn't look like everyone was eye rolling between takes.
Like seeing him in altered carbon was was amazing
I wonder if the high evolutionarys design is based off the og robocop
Okay, Robocop is my favorite non-horror movie and this video was pretty fuggin awesome. *subbed*
I've been watching this man's videos since high school then I stopped for some reason last year, now I'm back and damn...I missed this channel.
Just pure vibes and truly the only content I can watch while enjoying a blunt
The bit about the hand in the movie was in the screening i went to, as i remember saying that, that's the stupidest reason to keep the hand ever.
Fans tend to argue about the Alien eggmorphing scene like it contradicts Aliens and a "Queen Facehugger" But no. The Alien Xenomorph is meant to be the perfect predator. You'd think that each alien would have reproductive redundancies, it can live in space! We see older Xenos grow into Queens in extended media. I can totally imagine it's body response is "Welp, there's no queen near by, and we haven't reached queen-morphing stage yet, I need to turn victims into eggs!" Its like no matter what, even if there is a single Xenomorph left, it will find a means to reproduce. where there is one, more will always follow. That adds to the horror of how unstoppable they are. But nah, Alien fans will argue over the Xenomorph lifecycle.
It's been a while since I last saw Robocop 2, but I'm pretty sure that when he tells his wife that they "made it to honour murphy" it was him lying to her in order to get her to stop trying to see him and move on with her life [I don't remember if he was feeling bad for her, was too scared to try to reconnect, or if someone threatened her.]
It really IS his face, they didn't just make a fake one and decide to include the bullet hole.
26:16 sounds like Arnold Rimmer from the Time Travel Photograph episode.
If the new RoboCop had a real hard and a prosthetic arm, how an earth do you get the blood supply from his heart to his hand? In one scene, you have just his torso and his human hand is separate while he is attached to a stand with pipes and cables coming out of his head and torso. How would you keep the hand alive?
I'd assume a solution that's essentially a fascimile of real, organic blood, just synthetic and capable of carrying oxygen and nutrients to the squishy hand, and using a pump system that's similar to the circulatory system, when detached it has its own little reservoir or is connected to a recreation of a circulatory system with a nutrient system attached to it to simulate a human body, but since the 'squishy' hand is an actual cybernetic hand covered in what I assume to be very lifelike synthetic skin or something, like the Terminator's living skin covering, there's no need to get a blood supply to the hand if the hand is fake.
Ive been watching these since FF had less than 5k subs and it never ceases to amaze me how Karl can open a bottle with any random item handed to him.
I wondered about that exposed hand. I thought it was a reference to the original. They saved his whole arm but cut it off anyway.
13:03 While Joel Kinnaman is describing what will happen if he pulls the trigger, all I can hear is *"ThIS iS kATaNa!!!"* from Suicide Squad 😂
Robocop and The Thing are the best practical effects of all time! The Fly is pretty damn good too
Dont forget the transformation scene from AMERICAN WEREWOLF IN LONDON the entire scene was done using " live effects "
Should have used action man's super grip to open the bottle
Talking about networks cutting scenes... I saw Desperado on USA network. For those that don't know... USE heavily censored stuff... They cut out every cuss word and bloody gunshot in Desperado. I would like to see a comparison to the original because II think they cut 20% of the runtime at minimum...
the hand is even dumber than it sounds for one key problem.
how much torque is that robot arm putting on those feeble human hand bones?
yea that sucker is getting ripped off first time he needs to mobe faster than a snails pace, no bullets required.
I reckon its a missed opertunity to have a hand thats freaky like the OG robocops face.
I got a poster of Robocop and Sting standing side by side was an old WCW capital combat magazine promo.
pretty sure they had the handshake scene in the Australian release
I have a recurring fantasy about a film called *_Deleted Scenes,_* which is made up entirely of deleted scenes -- some are actual deleted scenes from films (famous or obscure), some are faked (with CGI or just with actors doing an approximation of the original performers, or faked deleted scenes from animated films done in the original film's style). Some would be things like the CGI-recreated crevasse scene from the 1933 *_King Kong,_* or the CGI recreation of the unfilmed finale to Hitchcock's *_The Birds_* (with the car driving across a Golden Gate Bridge with thousands of birds perching on it) which ought to be filmed. Some would be comedic bits similar to the "alternate ending" to *_It's a Wonderful Life_* shown on *_Saturday Night Live._*
Not sure whether it would have a framing sequence of people stumbling upon a hidden stash of deleted footage, or a pair of critics pompously critiquing the scenes, or if they'd just be a bunch of deleted scenes spliced together.
I actually really enjoyed the remake. I think the guy off camera was getting close to another one of the themes which explains why they made him so human from the beginning. It's suppose to blur the line between human and ai pros and cons and how far should we should take technology integration going into the future. I think while both movies touch on each other's major themes, both movies stand on their own. Also, you could argue he looks more uncanny in the original, but I didn't really have a problem believing the 8ft tall skintight metallic man running at 30 mph was not human. Also also, as our own technology advanced, I think audiences would be suprised to see a robotic man move as clunkly and slow as the original did. I think modern audiences would expect the technology shown in the 2014 remake. While original was very cool, he didn't move very fast and was often out maneuvered.
The worst part about the hand is that it keeps switching from right to left.
It doesn't. The one scene where it appears to be on the left side is when his body is disassembled to show the remains of Murphy. That scene is shown to us through a mirror.
6:50 Robocop has the best use of the "Uncanny Valley" in cinema history.
The Edward Norton Hulk cut opening where Banner tries to shoot himself but turns into Hulk and spits out the bullet it's later mentioned in one of the Avengers movies
every once in a while I'll think "I haven't watched a Fact Fiend video in a while, I wonder what they've been up to?" and the MOMENT I think that one of their videos pops up in my reccomended. Every time.
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If the original face was meant to be rubber... why did it have the bullet hole from when he was killed?
From what I heard it so be doesn't realize it's fake
kinnaman is underrated he's great in altered carbon, the killing, and hanna.
Time index 15:48, that is what I assumed it always was; a robotic hand with human flesh stretched over it. Otherwise it is a liability and how can it be expected to perform as well as the robotic one? It won't have the robotic strength necessary to rip off an ED-208's head; which happens in the warehouse scene. BTW, in the novel, one of Robocop's arms, possibly just the hand is still human. Or my recall of a book I read 30 yrs ago is off.
A scene in the very begining while at the hearing, one politician said as long as I have a say a human hand not a robot will pull the trigger.
Just when I thought Robocop could never be made dull, I watched this video of friends chit chatting
It was so he could give someone a proper handshake so that they didn’t feel like they were dealing with a machine.
"RoboCop" was ordinary, in every way, just like Hollywood wants. But there was only 2 minutes of humanity that I appreciated, when the "thing" remembered being someone.
One notable deleted scene is 2015 Biff's death from Back to the Future 2. It gives credence to Eric Stoltz's idea that an entire timeline is effectively killed off when the timeline changes
I used to think it was supposed to be like a reverse gunslinger thing, you know, like those cowboy stories, where the mysterious stranger wonders into town, wearing 1 glove on his shooting hand.
its even stupider when you remember the scene where Mattox is talking to Robocop about his weapons and armor, ends up talking crap about robocop to his face insinuating hes not human, and alex offers him the robot hand to shake instead of the human hand 🤦♀
Not sure you're right about the OG's face. The most prominent feature of his face is he still has the bullet wound in his forehead. When he says "They made this..." he's talking about himself, Robocop as a whole, in order to convince his wife to move on with her life by pretending he isn't really Alex.
It would've also worked for it to be done as a slimy loophole.
I think there are international agreements on machine warfare that often bring up that you can't make drones that can kill off of programming alone, there has to be "a human pulling the trigger"
So that would work with the criticism of drone warfare.
I can’t believe there’s so much good cut stuff. The avengers one got me good, I almost cried smh
I didn't even know there was a remake of robo-cop until this video showed up in my recommended feed.
It was supposed to be Murphy's real face in the original. He only said what he did to his wife to try and find closure with her. There's even the bullet hole still left on his temple from when he was "killed". If it was just a mask they wouldn't leave that in. You can even see the metal in the bullet hole. I remember a tech saying it was his real face, too.
I watched the first half (my skybox didn't record the second half) on tv and I thought they kept a human hand as the US refused to have a robot pulling the trigger roaming the streets. But they would tolerate a human pulling the trigger, leading to them creating this robocop.