I got my CT200U off of Offer Up Daytona beach Florida for 175$s in like new condition!....the fella I purchased it from needed the money asap....darn good investment, me and my 4 year old son love it!
The clutch in this video appears to be designed for a 3/4 inch crankshaft. My CT200 came with a 16mm crankshaft. The clutch is different from the one in this video. The area that the clutch hub rides on has a caged bearing. I cleaned it and packed it with grease much like the wheel bearing in a car. This clutch design is much better than the clutch in the video that uses a bushing instead of a caged bearing. A caged bearing beats a bushing by a mile in most applications. I was not happy that my engine came with the smaller 16mm crankshaft but do like the clutch design with the caged bearing.
What I described above works fine after doing multiple rides, many at slower speed where you are on and off the clutch and it heats up. Never used a drop of oil. I only got a little splatter onto the clutch drum because I used a little too much grease. Works great.
Mine doesn’t have the other small chain just a long one and my clutch fell off the other day when I hit a big jump any ideas on how to stop it from doing that
Is it the lack of grease on the clutch shaft that causes a sort of whirring noise when you let off the throttle? Or is that normal? Also I used a small drop of oil around the clutch bolt previously, which I believe lasts for a single ride. I've had one of these for several years, sat in the garage, and would like to make use of it. I'm in the UK. I'd imagine the wheel bearings aren't greased either, not sure if these are sealed or you can grease them. I'm considering the OMB warehouse torque converter kit, but would be happy to get the best performance out of the stock setup for now. Would appreciate any advice. Thanks.
See my posts above in this thread. Does your clutch have a bushing or a bearing? If a bushing you will need to oil it after every ride when it's hot or service it like he does in the video. The wheel bearings are sealed bearings but you can carefully remove the seal and pack more grease in them. I don't know what is causing the whirring noise.
Paul G iam thinking of buying 2 of these are the clutches normally bad should I be ready to replace or do what you show on video and it should be ok or????
The clutch is put on dry in the factory with no grease on the clutch shaft so cleaning isn’t going to do much for the clutch. Go get some multi purpose grease from the auto parts store and it’s only 3 dollars a can. Then what I do is get a paint brush of some sort and paint the grease on the shaft so it gets on there evenly without any clumps
I had the same problem with my ct200u ex and ended up snapping the spring inside the clutch and now I cant find any the right size and I went to p.a and bought the wrong size
I'm having trouble removing my centrifugal clutch from my Box Stock Project engine . To install an ARC rod Flat top piston & a HOTTER CAM. etc. There are NO VISIBLE SET SCREWS -NO SNAP RINGS OR BOLT & WASHER on the output shaft at all. I believe its just stuck on by years of rust . Whats the best way to REMOVE IT ! I think it's a Max torque or Noram clutch I am thinking of using some rust penitrater Like PB Blaster or WD-40. Etc. Let it sit for a while to do it's majic AND A GOOD PULLER also if needed a few good taps around clutch with ceramic mallet then , and only if needed. , a Ball peen hammer . ANY THOUGHTS. OR SUGGESTIONS ? HMU - THANKS
I just bought a used Coleman mini bike ct200u a - May 2018 Model, Does anybody know if it should have JUST a single chain set up?? that's what this one has I bought " Single Chain, it chatters constantly when nailing the gas, so I pull the clutch like I see on youtube to grease it up, stills does it, my sons were looking at it tonight and said the chain looks like its doing something weird on the clutch. I'll get into it some tomorrow. HELP!!! :P
There is some bad info in this video. For one do not spray the clutch drum with carb or brake cleaner like he did, he got it on the oil-lite bushing in the drum. The solvent is so hot it leeches out the lube in the brass bushing.. The bushing is designed to soak oil in. Spray the cleaner on a rag and carefully clean the drum, avoiding the bushing. Okay next, you can use grease but it won't last and soon you'll have to break it down to re grease. Instead use 3 to 4 drops of 30 w oil on bushing. Put it right where the snap ring is. You can do this without removing clutch from bike. When clutch starts grabbing at idle and squeeling noises are present, oil the bushing. Spend your time riding not tearing clutch down, only tear down once in a while for cleaning. All of the quality made clutches recommend 30 w oil, not grease.
@@DS-ss7vl According to Hilliard race clutches, the WD 40 is the safest to clean drum and shoes. They claim the brake cleaner cleans it to good, you need just a slight amount of slipping as you reach full engagement speed. Otherwise the shoes grab and you don't get a smooth take off. WD 40 really isn't a lubricant, it stands for water dispersal formula 40, it does slightly lube, but evaporates away. It is a old go kart race trick to give the clutch a quick shot of WD 40 to slightly decrease the co efficient of friction for smoother clutch operation.
The flyweights will slip when they contact the clutch drum instead of sticking to it and moving the bike forward, they'll spin around in there and you won't go anywhere and they'll probably do damage to the drum.
@@johnbriggs7462 Clean it with a harsh cleaner like brake cleaner or carb and choke cleaner and wipe any residue out. You might also try an industrial degreaser like Jolt or even Super Clean if that doesn't work. See if you get good grip then.
@@kingstonlabelle6954 where did you get yours? did you just go to a hardware store or order it online. I don't know what it looks like since it fell off along with the clutch. and this video was filmed on a toaster so hard to see.
@@leeoswald6803 What i did was loosen the engine mount bolts, loosen rear axle bolt and chain tension bolts then push the engine forward about an inch. Retighten engine bolts, adjust chain tension then tighten axle bolts. Easy.
@@meatwad1193 my bike starts smoking and wants to move forward when I put the bolt in do you know what the issue is? I assume it’s something with the clutch but I don’t know.
@@BMCfilmz lol my does too yeah its something with the clutch but mines so bad that I'm going to have to replace the whole engine cause it's uncomfortable and i don't know how to fix it.
Been looking for this answer for a danm hour
This helped so much for a new guy like me.
What size bolt for the shaft mine is missing
Great video , helped a lot !
Perfect. The manual is a little vague. Keep it up, guys! These little bikes are awesome-opossum!
I got my CT200U off of Offer Up Daytona beach Florida for 175$s in like new condition!....the fella I purchased it from needed the money asap....darn good investment, me and my 4 year old son love it!
What a steal. I paid 375 for mine that was nearly new
@@MrBallbreakers We played with it often, kept it clean and well maintained then sold it for 280$s.
I just got one and a moto MM-B80 for 400 here in Orlando....
@@beardedjalapeno5263 What's up!? Orlando!!!
@@audiwankenobi361 hey chilling 😎 bro.
Thank you for helping us
Thank you..
You could also break the nut loose while the chain's on then take the chain off
I couldn't get it off without removing the master link. I tried 😅
The clutch in this video appears to be designed for a 3/4 inch crankshaft. My CT200 came with a 16mm crankshaft. The clutch is different from the one in this video. The area that the clutch hub rides on has a caged bearing. I cleaned it and packed it with grease much like the wheel bearing in a car. This clutch design is much better than the clutch in the video that uses a bushing instead of a caged bearing. A caged bearing beats a bushing by a mile in most applications. I was not happy that my engine came with the smaller 16mm crankshaft but do like the clutch design with the caged bearing.
What I described above works fine after doing multiple rides, many at slower speed where you are on and off the clutch and it heats up. Never used a drop of oil. I only got a little splatter onto the clutch drum because I used a little too much grease. Works great.
Use motor oil on that type clutch
Will the stock clutch fit on a Predator 212? and can if i order a new clutch will it come with the spacer?
Where can I buy the chain tensioner in this video?
So I have a coleman ct200u-ex mini bike, and the drive shaft broke. So what/ where can I get one??
What kind of spray is that
Mine doesn’t have the other small chain just a long one and my clutch fell off the other day when I hit a big jump any ideas on how to stop it from doing that
dont hut bumps bro. I had same problem twice origonal owner of a ct200uex its a defect from factory
Is it the lack of grease on the clutch shaft that causes a sort of whirring noise when you let off the throttle? Or is that normal? Also I used a small drop of oil around the clutch bolt previously, which I believe lasts for a single ride. I've had one of these for several years, sat in the garage, and would like to make use of it. I'm in the UK. I'd imagine the wheel bearings aren't greased either, not sure if these are sealed or you can grease them. I'm considering the OMB warehouse torque converter kit, but would be happy to get the best performance out of the stock setup for now. Would appreciate any advice. Thanks.
See my posts above in this thread.
Does your clutch have a bushing or a bearing? If a bushing you will need to oil it after every ride when it's hot or service it like he does in the video.
The wheel bearings are sealed bearings but you can carefully remove the seal and pack more grease in them.
I don't know what is causing the whirring noise.
@Deucealive75 thanks, yes I think it's a bushing.
Thank
What should the quote of hours my mechanic charge me for this ? Maybe 2
I have only had it 2 days and the bike wants to move on its own in idle. Do you think simply cleaning it will be enough?
Paul G iam thinking of buying 2 of these are the clutches normally bad should I be ready to replace or do what you show on video and it should be ok or????
The clutch is put on dry in the factory with no grease on the clutch shaft so cleaning isn’t going to do much for the clutch. Go get some multi purpose grease from the auto parts store and it’s only 3 dollars a can. Then what I do is get a paint brush of some sort and paint the grease on the shaft so it gets on there evenly without any clumps
I've found that Lithium Grease works best.
I had the same problem with my ct200u ex and ended up snapping the spring inside the clutch and now I cant find any the right size and I went to p.a and bought the wrong size
Did it work?
Does the thinner washer or thicker washer go on before you put the top of the clutch on with the c clip?
ONLY 1 washer, OTHER is a SPACER. DID U NOT WATCH VIDEO ?
@@davidson2004fatboy is the thicker one the spacer?
@@nathanlong8846 🤣
I'm having trouble removing my centrifugal
clutch from my
Box Stock Project engine .
To install an ARC rod
Flat top piston & a HOTTER CAM. etc.
There are NO VISIBLE SET SCREWS -NO SNAP RINGS OR BOLT & WASHER on the output shaft at all.
I believe its just stuck on by years of rust .
Whats the best way to REMOVE IT !
I think it's a Max torque
or Noram clutch
I am thinking of using some rust penitrater
Like PB Blaster or
WD-40. Etc.
Let it sit for a while
to do it's majic
AND A GOOD PULLER
also if needed a few good taps around clutch with ceramic mallet
then , and only if needed. , a Ball peen hammer .
ANY THOUGHTS. OR SUGGESTIONS ?
HMU - THANKS
Pulley removal tool should pop it
No oil?
I just bought a used Coleman mini bike ct200u a - May 2018 Model, Does anybody know if it should have JUST a single chain set up?? that's what this one has I bought " Single Chain, it chatters constantly when nailing the gas, so I pull the clutch like I see on youtube to grease it up, stills does it, my sons were looking at it tonight and said the chain looks like its doing something weird on the clutch. I'll get into it some tomorrow. HELP!!! :P
Still need help m8?
@@granolabar9423 we changed out the clutch, it had the wrong one on it, nice now
@@williamcrazylacyfurmage9953 sweeeet! Lol
What size and dimensions is the clutch bolt , mines vibrated off and need to get a new one please help
Me too need help
5/8 Coleman. Harbor freight has 3/4 inch
Did u ever find out? How long the bolt is?
There is some bad info in this video. For one do not spray the clutch drum with carb or brake cleaner like he did, he got it on the oil-lite bushing in the drum. The solvent is so hot it leeches out the lube in the brass bushing.. The bushing is designed to soak oil in. Spray the cleaner on a rag and carefully clean the drum, avoiding the bushing. Okay next, you can use grease but it won't last and soon you'll have to break it down to re grease. Instead use 3 to 4 drops of 30 w oil on bushing. Put it right where the snap ring is. You can do this without removing clutch from bike. When clutch starts grabbing at idle and squeeling noises are present, oil the bushing. Spend your time riding not tearing clutch down, only tear down once in a while for cleaning. All of the quality made clutches recommend 30 w oil, not grease.
You are a hero today!!
@@ashleyhitomi6394 Hi, it is probably best to just use WD 40 as a cleaner on shoes drum etc. Please no grease.
@@beaubrummelmotorizedbicycles Why would you put WD40 (Lubricant) on a clutch drum or the shoes?
@@DS-ss7vl According to Hilliard race clutches, the WD 40 is the safest to clean drum and shoes. They claim the brake cleaner cleans it to good, you need just a slight amount of slipping as you reach full engagement speed. Otherwise the shoes grab and you don't get a smooth take off. WD 40 really isn't a lubricant, it stands for water dispersal formula 40, it does slightly lube, but evaporates away. It is a old go kart race trick to give the clutch a quick shot of WD 40 to slightly decrease the co efficient of friction for smoother clutch operation.
@Michigan Music The bushing is the bronze sleeve inside of clutch drum.
What happens if you lube inside cooler holes?
The flyweights will slip when they contact the clutch drum instead of sticking to it and moving the bike forward, they'll spin around in there and you won't go anywhere and they'll probably do damage to the drum.
@@snkboarder how does one fix this. Do you just clean it with a rag or do I have to get a whole new clutch
@@johnbriggs7462 Clean it with a harsh cleaner like brake cleaner or carb and choke cleaner and wipe any residue out. You might also try an industrial degreaser like Jolt or even Super Clean if that doesn't work. See if you get good grip then.
Coleman 200 mini bike anyone know the screw sizes for it?
Any luck? Wondering the same
What’s the correct bolt size for the clutch? Thanks in advance…
Did you ever find out the size of the bolt for the clutch
10mm
hello
6mm x 1.0pitch
What size is the clutch bolt/washer/etc?
I need to know as well
I'm wondering the same
Looking for the same, Have you found out?
I did find it but I forgot the size. I'll check asap.
@@shootinnscootin5545 ok thanks.
What size bolt and washer is on the clutch!!!!
Did you find out.
@@leeoswald6803 did you I lost mine?
@@BMCfilmz I forgot what it was but most companies have the bolt sizes online.
@@leeoswald6803 okay thanks a lot
Thanks*
What size is the bolt on the top?
Most models are using an m6 bolt. Otherwise it will be 5/16.
Its a 10mm. Most everything on the bike is 10 or 8mm
Do you know what it is for the bt200x
@@skystheslugs9743 same thing
Ik I’m late but how long is the bolt?
What size is that bolt???
Why?
Does anyone know the bolt size for the clutch?
10mm
@@---bj8ty Thanks but I found that out already;)
@@kingstonlabelle6954 where did you get yours? did you just go to a hardware store or order it online. I don't know what it looks like since it fell off along with the clutch. and this video was filmed on a toaster so hard to see.
Why does my chain seem a lot looser than in this video my 200 is only 2 weeks old
That’s very normal you just need to pop s link out of the chain to tighten it back up make sure you check both chains too
@@leeoswald6803 What i did was loosen the engine mount bolts, loosen rear axle bolt and chain tension bolts then push the engine forward about an inch. Retighten engine bolts, adjust chain tension then tighten axle bolts. Easy.
Never knew it had to be serviced
burh?
fucking idiot
@@Tanarnick right?
My Coleman CT200U- EX won’t idle .... as soon as I turn it on it starts to go ..... is this the problem???
Yes
Did you find out how to fix it? Mine does the same thing
@@BMCfilmz I’ve tired everything and I can’t fix it .... I’ve even tried to contact Coleman and that haven’t helped a bit
It's definitely your centrifugal clutch
Could be a botched throttle linkage setup. Could be too high idle speed.
At 4:02 he says "lubricate the shaft".
haw haw haw
No he says that at 4:00
Mine just operates terribly. You have to get the RPMs way up and it is sketchy. It is brand new.
This makes it really unfun for a kid.
Coleman manual says to use your motor oil to lubricate the shaft while this video says WD40
It's not a big deal. Either will work. The idea is to prevent corrosion. You could even use a thin coat of anti seize.
Oil works better
THAT WAS TOUGH, I WONDER HOW MANY NO MINDS WILL SCREW this JOB UP
Whats the bolt size??
Did you ever find out?
@@BMCfilmz m8-1.0 x 25mm
@@meatwad1193 okay thank you
@@meatwad1193 my bike starts smoking and wants to move forward when I put the bolt in do you know what the issue is? I assume it’s something with the clutch but I don’t know.
@@BMCfilmz lol my does too yeah its something with the clutch but mines so bad that I'm going to have to replace the whole engine cause it's uncomfortable and i don't know how to fix it.
Sadly like everything else in America, the minibike is Cheap Chinese junk
My 200U's are 7 years old and work just fine. You actually have to do maintenance on them like the video shows.