Well Keaton of all the movie Bruces played him a little not quite right too, so crazy's attracted to crazy. Plus they share the whole dual personality thing.
@@Beppo85 Of course. This is a Tim Burton movie. The weirdos find in each other a beauty that normal members of society are never aware of, and the powerful, the popular and the socialites are always portrayed as monsters.
Why didn't Selina get Employee of the Month. How often does a person get thrown out of a highrise window and show up to work the next day, that is work ethic.
dont forget that between her getting thrown out and her showing up to work, she also became Catwoman and beat up a criminal in the same night, she really deserved the Employee of the month title XD
I like how when Bruce asks how Selina got the scar on her head, Shreck gives her an excuse with a subtle threatening tone in his voice, she neither exposes what he did to her, but also doesn't use his excuse, showing independence and a slight rebelliousness to just make her own up. I think it is also implied that Selina was hinting towards Shreck that she'll keep her mouth shut, for now at least, but also displaying to him that she's not the same girl he pushed out through the window.
I loved seeing Bruce the business man. Too many films make him out to be an idiot with the playboy persona. C'mon, people, he has to keep it realistic. Anyone who cared to look up his college transcripts, and the media would, would know he wasn't an idiot in the slightest. Bruce dated around a lot in public, true, but tried to appear respectable and worked as Bruce Wayne to employ as many as he could, funding dozens of charities that he founded and was a known philanthropist. He needed to be taken seriously in the business world, as well as juggle being seen as an active bachelor without shaming the Wayne name, but otherwise did his best to seem normal, not as a spoiled kid.
Keaton almost plays it a little *too* straight here. He tells Shreck that Penguin controls the Red Triangle Gang. Like *how* would Wayne know that if he wasn't Batman? He comes off like the smartest person in the room unless he's talking to a beautiful woman. 😂
The look of shock on Max's face when he sees Selena walking around ALIVE is priceless, then she walks up to him with that *"Yeah, I'm still alive asshole"* expression on her face.
@@josephmullin5845 I like how the whole scene you can tell he's trying to figure out what's going on here. Does she really have amnesia about the night before and not remember him trying to kill her, is she screwing with him, what's she gonna say or do in front of Bruce?
Everything Michelle did to play this role was pure excellence, from the hair to feet , all around , she was stunning absolutely stunning playing CATWOMAN
And Annette Benning had been cast as Catwoman after her star making turn in The Grifters but had to drop out after getting pregnant by Warren Beatty. I cannot fathom another Catwoman other than Pfeiffer.
As a kid I thought these scenes were boring but now as an adult the scenes with Bruce and Selina are by far my favorite. There's something so fascinating about their dynamic, it's both seductive yet adorable at the same time. It feels absolutely organic
Well said. The "boring, grown-ups talking" scenes from childhood faves becoming the most scintillating scenes in a film during adult rewatches is honestly one of the finer things in life. 'The Mask' is another great example of this - as I kid I was there for the cartoonish mania of the actual Mask-wearing sequences; as an adult, everything Carrey and cast do in their regular interactions is the mesmerizing bit.
Same. As a child I was always in it for the action. The explosions. The good guy beating up the bad guy. Now as an adult, it's the world building and the character development that does it for me. Probably why I don't seem to enjoy as many recent movies as I do the older ones.
I love how Bruce was genuinely dazzled by Selina. Being who he is, he knows how to put up a persona and self control his nerves, but when he meets her, he’s tripping over his words and can’t take his eyes off of her. That’s rare for him. In costume, they are their true form and drawn, but even when they are out of costume, their true selves still come out. That’s why, for me, Selina is the best love for Bruce there is. Well done Burton.
God i love the subtleness that Hollywood was capable of, not trying to lecture or being too obvious like they are now. Burton didn't underestimate his audience, and this movie is a total classic.
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Sarah Koob Perfect age. Twenty something female beauty usually exudes too much innocence and bubbleheaded naïveté (like Halley Berry) to be a proper Selina Kyle. Catwoman has to be experienced while being charming yet not coming off jaded (like Anne Hathaway did). However harsh I am on Hathaway and Berry, I recognize much of that had to do with script tone and quality. Especially Berry’s...
She basically had him on the balls. While Bruce was somewhat shock and somehow weirdly attracted to her, Old Maximilian was scared shitless because she could've told them what happened. Instead she was playing huged cat and mouse game with Maximilian. Hell even with Bruce too.
The one from Dark Knight Rises has been the most modern comic book accurate.The one from CatWoman was the worst in my opinion.This one is great for what she is which is a Burton style version.
Halle Berry did what she was paid to do in the context of the movie as written and directed at the time. The fact that some of her actions seemed repetitive in many of the sequences is purely the fault of the editing process and a distinct lack of foresight by the director.
This is my favorite scene from Batman Returns. Max's shock at seeing her alive, Selina's newfound confidence after her transformation, how she mesmerizes Bruce.
Michelle Pfeiffer is such an insanely good actress... No wonder anyone else jumping in Catwoman's catsuit is labeled "good", "passable" or less. And no wonder they took someone who looks like her in the Gotham series (Camren Bicondova).
People say this wasn't Catwoman from the comics, well I say, if that is so and Anne Hathaway is, then Burton improved the character and they should keep her that way. The 9 lives, semi supernatural vibe she had in this movie is cool.
@@hottakestuesdays7450 The only part of the Selina/Catwoman character in this film that was close to the comics was her tragic romance with Bruce Wayne/ Batman. The backstory and her origin as catwoman was completely made up for this film however.
@@LordMalice6d9 But there is no one difinitive origin of Catwoman in the comics. Loads of Batman stories take different approaches to his villains depending on the version of Gotham they are going with. Same as all his villains.
"I'm listed..." "I'm tempted..." "I'm working." "...I'm leaving!" Even being Batman doesn't make Bruce Wayne a smoothie when he meets a woman he really likes.
People say this wasn't Catwoman from the comics, well I say, if that is so and Anne Hathaway is, then Burton improved the character and they should keep her that way. The 9 lives, semi supernatural vibe she had in this movie is cool.
Did anyone mention that Michael Keaton, Michelle Pfeiffer and Christopher Walken are "Beetlejuice", "The Headless Horseman" and "Elizabeth Collins Stoddard" from BEETLEJUICE, SLEEPY HOLLOW and DARK SHADOWS three movies also Directed by Tim Burton. And also did some of you people know that Max's son Chip is Leatherface from THE TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE.
Halle Berry did the best she could with what she was given, the wrong person wrote that film. But Michelle is the greatest Catwoman ever. I was a boy then, I'm a man now, & it still doesn't matter, i connected and rooted for her. Michelle Pfeifer's portrayal of Catwoman was SO DOPE! I still remember the black women in the theater cheering for her in the final fight, " C'MON GURL, DONT QUIT, GET HIS ASS"!!!!
Selina: You don't seem like the type who does business with Mr Shreck Bruce: You don't seem like the type who takes orders from him Selina: Well, that's a long story Bruce: Well, I could free up some time Bruce has completely fallen for Selina because despite the fact that she seems socially awkward, he sees a highly confident and complicated person in her just like him
What i loved more about Batman Returns than the first one was the difference in character development for Bruce Wayne, in the first one Bruce rarely ever left Wayne Manor apart from going to the alleyway where his parents were murdered but showed very little personality but in Returns especially this scene, we got to see him intereact more in public with people and we also got to see the billionaire businessman side that we all know him for. I was never a fan of him always being portrayed as an idiotic spoilt rich brat who wasn't very bright, i always liked seeing him as a no nonsense type of guy who was always trying to help the citizens of Gotham and giving back to the city. It's really cool to see Bruce one minute talk straight with Max but then the next second turns the goofy guy dial a bit when Selina Kyle walks in the room to divert suspicion that he might know too much thus possibly giving his Batman identity away to everyone. Michael Keaton done a wonderful job in this movie showing different sides and layers to the character.
I think a problem with the playboy act is that we don't get the genuine emotions, reactions and feelings of the character. With Keaton's version of Bruce, I like that he was always just who he was in public, yet somehow he played it in a way where no one would remotely suspect he could be Batman. He managed to be interesting as both Bruce and Batman without needing to resort to over the top acting to distinguish between the two characters. I honestly don't know how Keaton managed to pull that off.
His face when he sees selina again after he thought she was dead is priceless lol, got to love a good bad boy and max shrek is one hell of a bad boy 😍😍😍
I love how flustered Bruce is seeing her with a completely different demeanor. Contrasted with her former self flustered when Batman saved her life. I love how this movie developed Selina Kyle and gave us an insight into her life before she became Catwoman. It makes sense that she is fearless now because the most powerful man in Gotham tried to murder her and she survived. I love how this movie points out that social status does not solve the problem of lonliness. Bruce is wealthy and Selina is low status "assistant" yet they both need each other and clearly enjoy being together. I think that is the message of the movie.
One thing I noticed about this movie Bruce is so impressed by Selina he doesn't even notice how weird she really is Max Shreck is so self centered, when he finds out Selina is Catwoman the first thing he does is saying "you're fired", and can't even see that the reason Bruce Wayne is dressed as Batman is because he is Batman The people of Gotham don't seem to notice there's something wrong with the Penguin Bruce and Selina take a long time to figure out who they are The Penguin actually thought Catwoman liked him The christmas tree girl actually thought the Penguin was a casting agent In general everyone in this movie is so self-involved they don't seem to understand what's going on around them and who the people they have around are, everyone sees everyone else through their own point of view. It's a very weird movie but it seems that no one notices how weird everything around them is.
@@LarryHazard Good point, I didn't pick up on that pattern but it is true. I guess this is a "Who am I" and a "Who are you" story. It's my new favorite Christmas movie.
@@JH-qy8no To add to that, it feels like this movie is happening inside a snow globe and everyone is some miniature character inside of it. It's dramatic cause it's like watching a bunch of puppets trying to be human and failing and even though there's a plot it feels like the movie is stuck in time in a way, especially since it's not clear what year it is in Gotham since the set designs and costumes are not from any particular decade. The characters also feel stuck in time cause they don't seem able to change. Penguin is forced to change but goes back to being his old self, Max Schreck in the ending still acts as if he's still inside his office at the start of the movie, Bruce always acts bamboozled, and Catwoman which is the only character that really changes basically self-destroys. It's like a snow globe that gets shaken up and you just see things happening to the city until everything settles returns to normal by the ending.
@@LarryHazard Yeah, I really think this movie is about Bruce and Selina's relationship at it's core. I see it as a dark Christmas romance story set in a sess pool city. And Keaton's version of Bruce Wayne has grown on me. He asks Selina out like a regular guy and not like some hot shot billionaire playboy would. He is the most humble Bruce Wayne on the big screen. You can tell he is a little nervous talking to Selina and he's not trying to hide that. I like when she says "girlfriend?" and he nervously says "sure!" And he says "oh, you mean do I." As I guy I can totally relate to that scene.
The roughly 90-second Bruce-Max interaction in the first part of this scene is awesome and as good as the writing as the rest of the film. It showcases 2 wealthy, affluent men who are complete opposites in almost every way: demeanor, style, attitude, and goals. Bruce is stoic, serious, traditional, and a do-gooder. Max is abrasive, sarcastic, old-fashioned, and greedy. I also like how Bruce doesn't hide the fact that he suspects Penguin runs the Red Triangle Gang and Max never suspects he's Batman because why would Batman be so stupid as to reveal who he is in this way? The best lie is the actual truth. Also, their brief scene at the ball later in the film is laced with tension and witty exchanges much like this scene. Keaton and Walken nailed their parts as much as DeVito and Pfeiffer did.
I absolutely love how Selena tells Bruce she likes his suit, which is neat, conservative, tailored, possibly even bespoke, while completely ignoring Max's suit which is hideous. I'm sure Max thinks it looks terrific but actually looks ridiculous. Selena was subtle in making fun of Max's suit here by pointing out that Bruce's suit is actually more tasteful.
I just noticed that she's wearing the same suit she had on when Shreck pushed her out the window. Not only did she saunter back into his office, very much alive and displaying the injuries from his attemped murder, but she's wearing the same outfit.
This is one of the many reasons why Batman Returns is my favorite among the interpretations of Batman movies. It was directed by a frustrated artist who kept at his work...and delivered.
@@sassytroy8282 think you for the answer. It's been 3 years... Time flyes crazy fast. I came to rewatch this scene and to read the comment section and found my older comment with an interesting answer to it.
Man ... this scene crackles with energy when Keaton and Walken are facing down against each other across that table ... Two actors with that special ... 'SOMETHING'
Tim Burton's batman always made me feel as though I was watching a live comic book, entertaining and yet nostalgic of my childhood comic book escapism!
I love the moment Bruce grabs his coat. It's the one unguarded exchange between Selina and Max in this scene. But her positioning and hair hide her face, thus keeping us a little in the dark about what her exact next move is going to be.
I just love how chill Max is with the fact Selina Kyle came back alive after he killed her. 'Nothing surprises me... next time I'll drop her outta a higher window' like this kind of thing happens all the time and doesn't bother him LMAO
My goodness. I used to watch this movie on repeat when I was young in the early-mid 90s. This is the first time watching parts of it in about 30 years. It’s so crazy how watching something you haven’t seen in so long takes you back to feeling like a kid again. Also terrifying how fast the time goes.
I don’t think I appreciated at the time how amazingly good Michelle Pfeiffer was in this role. So much going on with her in this scene, and she plays it perfectly.
@Rose Tico Enthusiast the crazy thing is Two-face could've been an outstanding character even with the joker but there was no character development and so forth. So you're absolutely correct in what you're saying. Especially with Bane and Catwoman. Like that combo didn't even fit and he made Bane this juggernaut type character and Catwoman a regular common thief...like wtf?
@Izaan ur rehman The dark knight rises was a big joke of a movie with full of plot holes and silly twist. It may earn 5 billion dollar still it was a crap movie. Also The dark knight got defeated by the avengers in box office by mile but it doesn't take away the face TDK was greatest super hero movie with best villain heath ledger. Box office doesn't mean anything. Talking about catwoman Anna hathway doesn't even hold a candle MP catwoman. She had zero emotion and had a boring story that not worthy to be remembered.
I love how unhinged and crazy eyed she looks, but Bruce is looking at her with complete heart eyes.
We all have a type.
Well Keaton of all the movie Bruces played him a little not quite right too, so crazy's attracted to crazy. Plus they share the whole dual personality thing.
"Say, you look like you use black leather to cope too!"
@@RFEM520 what the..?🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@Beppo85 Of course. This is a Tim Burton movie. The weirdos find in each other a beauty that normal members of society are never aware of, and the powerful, the popular and the socialites are always portrayed as monsters.
Why didn't Selina get Employee of the Month. How often does a person get thrown out of a highrise window and show up to work the next day, that is work ethic.
dont forget that between her getting thrown out and her showing up to work, she also became Catwoman and beat up a criminal in the same night, she really deserved the Employee of the month title XD
🤣🤣
"How industrious!"
😂😂
LMAOO
"I mistook me for somebody else."
Clever line.
gor9027 haha yeah cuz he was Batman...that's the first time I caught that..thanks
He almost let out that he's Batman to her cuz the night he saved her from one of The Penguin's goons
Oh my! But why in Russian dubbing did he say "I mistook you"? 😭😭😭 I watched it just yesterday!
@@SkarletBloodthirsty I misstook you for -somebody- else?
@@celestiavestia7100 That's what he says
Michelle Pfeifer was sensational as Catwoman.
Reason she came my role model at age 8
Agent of Chaos yes she was but Halle berry was perrrrfect
Yes she was
Yeaaa! She is...;)
Love her hair...;)
I like how when Bruce asks how Selina got the scar on her head, Shreck gives her an excuse with a subtle threatening tone in his voice, she neither exposes what he did to her, but also doesn't use his excuse, showing independence and a slight rebelliousness to just make her own up. I think it is also implied that Selina was hinting towards Shreck that she'll keep her mouth shut, for now at least, but also displaying to him that she's not the same girl he pushed out through the window.
Throwing a settle shade like "couldn't you just die?" It's priceless.
Like a cat toying with its prey.
@@sweetcinnamonpnchkin Nail on the head. Didnt even think of that
@@soaribb32 I didn't think of this! Damn the writing here is superb.
She played the "women are crazy" card so he wouldnt suspect she was an actual threat
Michelle Pfeiffer was the definition of a hot mess in this film.
That means TWO things!
@@kilmone Yes, freshly cooked spaghetti dropped on the floor or a hot woman that is crazy. I hope you know which one he was talking about.
No one could pull off a hot mess than her. This version of cat woman that is
Camren Bicondova is better
@@ModeratelyAmused Obviously the spaghetti
I still consider Batman Returns as a Christmas Movie
It is a Christmas movie
@@actionfigurescollectionssu7854 that’s what they just said?
It definitely is
@Wally Webbs much like Lethal Weapon 1 and Die Hard
@@cosmokramer179 ...and any James Bond film...
I loved seeing Bruce the business man. Too many films make him out to be an idiot with the playboy persona. C'mon, people, he has to keep it realistic. Anyone who cared to look up his college transcripts, and the media would, would know he wasn't an idiot in the slightest. Bruce dated around a lot in public, true, but tried to appear respectable and worked as Bruce Wayne to employ as many as he could, funding dozens of charities that he founded and was a known philanthropist. He needed to be taken seriously in the business world, as well as juggle being seen as an active bachelor without shaming the Wayne name, but otherwise did his best to seem normal, not as a spoiled kid.
Keaton almost plays it a little *too* straight here. He tells Shreck that Penguin controls the Red Triangle Gang. Like *how* would Wayne know that if he wasn't Batman?
He comes off like the smartest person in the room unless he's talking to a beautiful woman. 😂
hkr006 in fairness, the newspaper article he read that made him suspect Cobblepot was common knowledge.
agreed... Bruce Wayne's business acumen and Batman's superb detective skills are two traits that are overlooked often these days.
hkr006, 😂😂😂😂, that’s a very good point. Max Shreck missed that statement.
Derek Mathews good thing max did lol
The look of shock on Max's face when he sees Selena walking around ALIVE is priceless, then she walks up to him with that *"Yeah, I'm still alive asshole"* expression on her face.
Max's guard is almost let down but he quickly regains his composure
@@josephmullin5845 I like how the whole scene you can tell he's trying to figure out what's going on here. Does she really have amnesia about the night before and not remember him trying to kill her, is she screwing with him, what's she gonna say or do in front of Bruce?
@@Beppo85Meantime though, he’s got badder fish to fry. 🐟
she got that Kubrick stare, too
@@LionLThePrince781he said batter fish to fry
Everything Michelle did to play this role was pure excellence, from the hair to feet , all around , she was stunning absolutely stunning playing CATWOMAN
And Annette Benning had been cast as Catwoman after her star making turn in The Grifters but had to drop out after getting pregnant by Warren Beatty. I cannot fathom another Catwoman other than Pfeiffer.
@Iris E Camren Bicondova
As a kid I thought these scenes were boring but now as an adult the scenes with Bruce and Selina are by far my favorite. There's something so fascinating about their dynamic, it's both seductive yet adorable at the same time. It feels absolutely organic
Well said. The "boring, grown-ups talking" scenes from childhood faves becoming the most scintillating scenes in a film during adult rewatches is honestly one of the finer things in life. 'The Mask' is another great example of this - as I kid I was there for the cartoonish mania of the actual Mask-wearing sequences; as an adult, everything Carrey and cast do in their regular interactions is the mesmerizing bit.
It’s a movie for the kids and the adults. Charm that ages like wine or matures with us
Same. As a child I was always in it for the action. The explosions. The good guy beating up the bad guy. Now as an adult, it's the world building and the character development that does it for me. Probably why I don't seem to enjoy as many recent movies as I do the older ones.
I love how Bruce was genuinely dazzled by Selina. Being who he is, he knows how to put up a persona and self control his nerves, but when he meets her, he’s tripping over his words and can’t take his eyes off of her. That’s rare for him. In costume, they are their true form and drawn, but even when they are out of costume, their true selves still come out. That’s why, for me, Selina is the best love for Bruce there is. Well done Burton.
I love how Selina emphasizes the words “dead” and “die” as she walks past Max.
God i love the subtleness that Hollywood was capable of, not trying to lecture or being too obvious like they are now. Burton didn't underestimate his audience, and this movie is a total classic.
Hey eyes and crazy hair is just the perfect Catwoman
Ammar Z aaahh yeaaa!;)
Adam Is a Legendary!! Mmm god i just love every part of her!;) even when shes with bruce at the mancion. Her eyes face. Everything.
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She was 33 here stunning young women and still is stunning today
Sarah Koob
Perfect age. Twenty something female beauty usually exudes too much innocence and bubbleheaded naïveté (like Halley Berry) to be a proper Selina Kyle. Catwoman has to be experienced while being charming yet not coming off jaded (like Anne Hathaway did).
However harsh I am on Hathaway and Berry, I recognize much of that had to do with script tone and quality. Especially Berry’s...
Oof
Yes she is aging well!
@@johnhein2539 There’s just one thing wrong with your theory. Halle Berry was around 36-38 when she played cat woman.
wow I didnt realize that she was younger here than i am now. Im not sure how I feel sbout this
Aww, he's head over heels for her the moment he meets her, he's so cute
I prefer her over the ditzy Vicky anyway
@@brierichardson8462 Vicki was a good screamer though 😅😅😅😅
@@TDKiller415 The difference between Vicki and Selena, Vicki was the typical damsel in distress, Selena would never go down without a fight.
@@brierichardson8462She wasn’t ditzy. Also I prefer Vicky over Selina
@@TDKiller415No
Is it just me, or does Christopher Walken (Max Shreck) look like Ludwig van Beethoven in this movie?!!!.
Aye.
+MsLogjam more like a homosexual
???
theefrankguy more like Bill Clinton to me lol
theefrankguy. K
Can we all appreciate how entertaining Christopher Walken is here
He's hilarious and full of great lines and comebacks.
He ruined the movie
@@zt1053how? He was amazing
@@zt1053 plz stop doing drugs, your brain is deteriorating
Walken's quibs and come backs went over a kid's head though. I appreciate this movie much more as an adult.
"Max: Selina😮😮😮😮😮Selina, Selina😮😮😮😮😮😮 Selina: That's my name Maximillians. Don't wear it out or I'll make you buy me a new one”😏😏😏😏
I love that line.
Ami Hiroshi Yes it’s awesome 😎
Then proceeds to say Selina again.
She basically had him on the balls. While Bruce was somewhat shock and somehow weirdly attracted to her, Old Maximilian was scared shitless because she could've told them what happened. Instead she was playing huged cat and mouse game with Maximilian. Hell even with Bruce too.
@@christophercardarelli1328 So appropriate that you say "cat and mouse".
Michelle Pfeiffer would have been a perfect Harley Quinn too.
HunGerMovies YES!
No. Harley Quinn is a horrible character.
HunGerMovies triple factz
Matine Yang I agree, very annoying
wuaoo!;) harlin quin. never though about that...;)
Max being completely fine with Selina coming back alive totally killed me 🤣
'Next time I’ll just drop her outta a higher window!’
Fixes his bow i got bigger fish to fry.
Top g 👌
I bet Walken himself came up with that dialogue.
@@JH-qy8noMeantime though, he’s got badder 🐟 to fry.
@@JH-qy8noThat’s probably what he told Natalie
I like how when Selena's talking Bruce Wayne is mesmerized and enchanted, and Shreck is astounded and furious that she didn't die!
I honestly wouldn't fuck with selena
Michelle OWNED in this film, and especially in this scene.
I love Halle Berry but she ain't got jack shit on Michelle! Not even Anne could pull off Catwoman the way Michelle did.
and no one else will. not in this day and age, michelle is perfect - volcano of sex appeal hidden under the sapphire eyes and shy smile.
In spite of the silliness and the campy attitude of the “Batman” series, I still say Julie Newmar owned that part.
The one from Dark Knight Rises has been the most modern comic book accurate.The one from CatWoman was the worst in my opinion.This one is great for what she is which is a Burton style version.
DHGlee2013 Halle berry have curves that's why she was alright in catwomen
Halle Berry did what she was paid to do in the context of the movie as written and directed at the time. The fact that some of her actions seemed repetitive in many of the sequences is purely the fault of the editing process and a distinct lack of foresight by the director.
"And the cat came back, the very next day..."
MsLogjam he thought she was a goner
But the Cat came back, she just couldn't stay awayyyy.
MsLogjam my husband loves that song!!!!
MsLogjam curiosity killed the cat but satisfaction brought her back!
I thought that was a campfire song in the Boy Scouts. Now I have to Google its origins!
This is my favorite scene from Batman Returns. Max's shock at seeing her alive, Selina's newfound confidence after her transformation, how she mesmerizes Bruce.
She found her superpower: seduction, the one thing that was a joy to watch after what she went through.
"I mistook me for somebody else".... Way to get made Bruce.
Michelle Pfeiffer is such an insanely good actress... No wonder anyone else jumping in Catwoman's catsuit is labeled "good", "passable" or less. And no wonder they took someone who looks like her in the Gotham series (Camren Bicondova).
People say this wasn't Catwoman from the comics, well I say, if that is so and Anne Hathaway is, then Burton improved the character and they should keep her that way. The 9 lives, semi supernatural vibe she had in this movie is cool.
@@hottakestuesdays7450 The only part of the Selina/Catwoman character in this film that was close to the comics was her tragic romance with Bruce Wayne/ Batman. The backstory and her origin as catwoman was completely made up for this film however.
@@LordMalice6d9 But there is no one difinitive origin of Catwoman in the comics. Loads of Batman stories take different approaches to his villains depending on the version of Gotham they are going with. Same as all his villains.
@@LordMalice6d9 Which is a very Burton-esque way to rewrite a character that works for the medium (2hr movie) and character and mood of the film.
"I'm listed..."
"I'm tempted..."
"I'm working."
"...I'm leaving!"
Even being Batman doesn't make Bruce Wayne a smoothie when he meets a woman he really likes.
He wasn't prepared. Lol
What does that mean? When she says 'I'm listed...' ??? I've never heard that expression
@@Hop3fulRomantic It means she's in the phone book, and he can look up her phone number.
@@MichaelLee-tt7gm Ah thank you
And that Helena...is how I failed when I met your mother
I don’t care what anyone says about The Dark Knight - this movie’s a masterpiece.
Both are sequels that surpasses the first
People say this wasn't Catwoman from the comics, well I say, if that is so and Anne Hathaway is, then Burton improved the character and they should keep her that way. The 9 lives, semi supernatural vibe she had in this movie is cool.
Improvement is a strong word.
Hathaway and Berry were awful
@@candidpepper One of them were.
@@spencermalley10 hathaway was decent,. michele was iconic.
@@hottakestuesdays7450 She was more than decent, She was absolutely spot-on as the traditional Catwoman.
Christopher was such a treat in this film
And making him business rivals/partners with Michael Keaton's Bruce was a perfect choice
He ruined the movie
@@zt1053 Take your negative and wrong opinion somehwere else.
He's dressed like Beetlejuice
christopher walken is disturbingly smooth in this
The Bat,
The Cat
... and The Shark
Or the ogre,
I ve heard that at first he was appointed to b two-face (not confirmed)
Yeah
The Max
The vampire. Don't forget that the real Max Schreck actor has played Nosferatu.
Michelle Pfeiffer is and will forever be the best at playing Catwoman
Michelle was perfect , as the catwoman ❤
Mohamed Mostafa i agree
@@samsaunders9487 Me too, a perfect choice
Yes best ever!
She is also just perfect, in general.
Christopher Walken really did a good job in this movie!
yup, like he always does!!
The best Catwoman ever. So far no one has come even close.
"Nobody can ever have too much power." Gets electrocuted until he's turned into a charred skeleton at the end of the movie😂
Did anyone mention that Michael Keaton, Michelle Pfeiffer and Christopher Walken are "Beetlejuice", "The Headless Horseman" and "Elizabeth Collins Stoddard" from BEETLEJUICE, SLEEPY HOLLOW and DARK SHADOWS three movies also Directed by Tim Burton. And also did some of you people know that Max's son Chip is Leatherface from THE TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE.
Luis Dorado Nothing suprises me. Tim Burton likes to use certain actors over again.
Cassiopeia Wilson Especially Johnny Depp & Helena Bonham Carter
Holy Crap! I did not know that! 😮
"I'm listed."
"I'm tempted."
"I'm working."
"I'm leaving!"
I don't know why, but I find Chip to be hilarious. His reaction when he follows Selena into the room is just so funny to me.
jajaja i agreee!;) but did you see bruce face!? pricelesss!;)
She is ICONIC in this film! One of the most iconic performances of all time! Such a powerhouse queen!
When she says, "He's dead now." I always believed that she paid Ricky a visit and it didn't end well for him. LOL
She did. The tic, tact , how on his face
It sure seems like she killed Ricky
I always thought she did too I love michelle😂😂😂😂😂😂
Halle Berry did the best she could with what she was given, the wrong person wrote that film. But Michelle is the greatest Catwoman ever. I was a boy then, I'm a man now, & it still doesn't matter, i connected and rooted for her. Michelle Pfeifer's portrayal of Catwoman was SO DOPE! I still remember the black women in the theater cheering for her in the final fight, " C'MON GURL, DONT QUIT, GET HIS ASS"!!!!
That little anecdote is a pure lie.
i love bruce's face when selina comes in is dumb as hell, still giggling whenever i see the part "i'm working - i'm leaving" 😂
"he's dead now...."
one of my favorite lines
Inference:)
She had a past vendetta, Honestly I don’t blame her.
@@amatureactor92 Excuse me for being slow but was that her implying that she just killed him recently? That line is so chilling.
Justin Ruffo yes I totally agree, and no need to be sorry. 😂✌️
Selina: You don't seem like the type who does business with Mr Shreck
Bruce: You don't seem like the type who takes orders from him
Selina: Well, that's a long story
Bruce: Well, I could free up some time
Bruce has completely fallen for Selina because despite the fact that she seems socially awkward, he sees a highly confident and complicated person in her just like him
Selina: I'm listed.
both jaws falling and open. Their eyes too, and Bruce's side smile. One of the best movie's scenes
What i loved more about Batman Returns than the first one was the difference in character development for Bruce Wayne, in the first one Bruce rarely ever left Wayne Manor apart from going to the alleyway where his parents were murdered but showed very little personality but in Returns especially this scene, we got to see him intereact more in public with people and we also got to see the billionaire businessman side that we all know him for.
I was never a fan of him always being portrayed as an idiotic spoilt rich brat who wasn't very bright, i always liked seeing him as a no nonsense type of guy who was always trying to help the citizens of Gotham and giving back to the city.
It's really cool to see Bruce one minute talk straight with Max but then the next second turns the goofy guy dial a bit when Selina Kyle walks in the room to divert suspicion that he might know too much thus possibly giving his Batman identity away to everyone.
Michael Keaton done a wonderful job in this movie showing different sides and layers to the character.
I think a problem with the playboy act is that we don't get the genuine emotions, reactions and feelings of the character. With Keaton's version of Bruce, I like that he was always just who he was in public, yet somehow he played it in a way where no one would remotely suspect he could be Batman. He managed to be interesting as both Bruce and Batman without needing to resort to over the top acting to distinguish between the two characters. I honestly don't know how Keaton managed to pull that off.
Max: if she try to blackmail me, I'll drop her out a higher window.
Me: not if she drops you first.
Me: I'm pretty sure she'll get right up and appear the next day.
Max: 😲 I'm beginning to think I can't kill this bitch.
Or shocks you
Michelle Pfeiffer has the most feline eyes...
oohh yeesss!;)
*Bruce's thoughts* at 2:03- "Mmm...she's crazy and clearly unhinged. This chick and I could really hit it off."
Bet they'd have a wild time in the sack.
When Batman looks at cat woman and Brice looks at Selena my heart flutters ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️🥰🥰🥰🥰
Watching this when I was a kid made me go "Go Catwoman! Go get that evil boss of yours! Yeah!"
Michael Keaton is the Best Batman😎👍✌💖💗🦇
and Michelle Pfeiffer is the best Catwoman
Chris Ricca ,
Adam West and Michael Keaton are my two favourite Batman actors!!!.
Pokemontas and Danny Devito is the best Penguin!
Yes!
His face when he sees selina again after he thought she was dead is priceless lol, got to love a good bad boy and max shrek is one hell of a bad boy 😍😍😍
yeah,been in love with walken since this movie and the James bond movie when I was about 5
I love how flustered Bruce is seeing her with a completely different demeanor. Contrasted with her former self flustered when Batman saved her life. I love how this movie developed Selina Kyle and gave us an insight into her life before she became Catwoman. It makes sense that she is fearless now because the most powerful man in Gotham tried to murder her and she survived. I love how this movie points out that social status does not solve the problem of lonliness. Bruce is wealthy and Selina is low status "assistant" yet they both need each other and clearly enjoy being together. I think that is the message of the movie.
One thing I noticed about this movie
Bruce is so impressed by Selina he doesn't even notice how weird she really is
Max Shreck is so self centered, when he finds out Selina is Catwoman the first thing he does is saying "you're fired", and can't even see that the reason Bruce Wayne is dressed as Batman is because he is Batman
The people of Gotham don't seem to notice there's something wrong with the Penguin
Bruce and Selina take a long time to figure out who they are
The Penguin actually thought Catwoman liked him
The christmas tree girl actually thought the Penguin was a casting agent
In general everyone in this movie is so self-involved they don't seem to understand what's going on around them and who the people they have around are, everyone sees everyone else through their own point of view. It's a very weird movie but it seems that no one notices how weird everything around them is.
@@LarryHazard Good point, I didn't pick up on that pattern but it is true. I guess this is a "Who am I" and a "Who are you" story. It's my new favorite Christmas movie.
@@JH-qy8no To add to that, it feels like this movie is happening inside a snow globe and everyone is some miniature character inside of it. It's dramatic cause it's like watching a bunch of puppets trying to be human and failing and even though there's a plot it feels like the movie is stuck in time in a way, especially since it's not clear what year it is in Gotham since the set designs and costumes are not from any particular decade. The characters also feel stuck in time cause they don't seem able to change. Penguin is forced to change but goes back to being his old self, Max Schreck in the ending still acts as if he's still inside his office at the start of the movie, Bruce always acts bamboozled, and Catwoman which is the only character that really changes basically self-destroys. It's like a snow globe that gets shaken up and you just see things happening to the city until everything settles returns to normal by the ending.
@@LarryHazard Yeah, I really think this movie is about Bruce and Selina's relationship at it's core. I see it as a dark Christmas romance story set in a sess pool city. And Keaton's version of Bruce Wayne has grown on me. He asks Selina out like a regular guy and not like some hot shot billionaire playboy would. He is the most humble Bruce Wayne on the big screen. You can tell he is a little nervous talking to Selina and he's not trying to hide that. I like when she says "girlfriend?" and he nervously says "sure!" And he says "oh, you mean do I." As I guy I can totally relate to that scene.
This dialogue is hilarious. No one can deliver lines like Christopher Walken.
Christopher Walken amazing
akways
Max is shock to see Kyle alive. Catwoman will get her revenge 🐈⬛
The roughly 90-second Bruce-Max interaction in the first part of this scene is awesome and as good as the writing as the rest of the film. It showcases 2 wealthy, affluent men who are complete opposites in almost every way: demeanor, style, attitude, and goals. Bruce is stoic, serious, traditional, and a do-gooder. Max is abrasive, sarcastic, old-fashioned, and greedy. I also like how Bruce doesn't hide the fact that he suspects Penguin runs the Red Triangle Gang and Max never suspects he's Batman because why would Batman be so stupid as to reveal who he is in this way? The best lie is the actual truth. Also, their brief scene at the ball later in the film is laced with tension and witty exchanges much like this scene. Keaton and Walken nailed their parts as much as DeVito and Pfeiffer did.
Camren Bicondova of Gotham (TV Series) really looks like Michelle P. as Selina Kyle here
ya later in the party scenes her hair is the same almost as one they styled for Camren on Gotham too. Not a mistake I'd say.
Yeah, it's super creepy. In a good way. Either that or they Terry McGinnis style cloned her.
Yeah almost like they're cloning all the old celebs huh lol
John Laurence Chan so true
Christopher Walken played another villain also named Max. He was the James Bond villain Max Zorin in View to a kill in 1985.
"No one ever leaves, the KGB."
And he was awful in that one too
@@zt1053 your mom
@@zt1053 you trolls need a life. He is so "awful" that he has been in over 100 movies
yes, this, James Bond, and Sarah plain and tall were the movies I first saw him in when I was 5. Been in love with him ever since
It's the only superhero movie that seems more interested in what happens when the characters have their masks off.
3:06 Bruce is drooling over Selina I mean shit I would too 😂😂😂
Christopher Walken's eyes are distractingly beautiful
The title of this clip should be selina comes back from the dead
It'd be a such a special spoiler
She wakes up from a concussion
Keaton is so charming as Bruce.
I absolutely love how Selena tells Bruce she likes his suit, which is neat, conservative, tailored, possibly even bespoke, while completely ignoring Max's suit which is hideous. I'm sure Max thinks it looks terrific but actually looks ridiculous. Selena was subtle in making fun of Max's suit here by pointing out that Bruce's suit is actually more tasteful.
I just noticed that she's wearing the same suit she had on when Shreck pushed her out the window. Not only did she saunter back into his office, very much alive and displaying the injuries from his attemped murder, but she's wearing the same outfit.
This is one of the many reasons why Batman Returns is my favorite among the interpretations of Batman movies. It was directed by a frustrated artist who kept at his work...and delivered.
Danny Elfman's score for Catwoman compliments Michelle's performance so well
Y'all, Bruce was head over heels.
2:04 the look on bruce's face says it all
The memories Selina shares are about sex, shame and fragility.
Very smart observation. And very interesting. But why shame? What would she get out of it?
@@omg9261 shameful of who she was before the push.
@@sassytroy8282 think you for the answer.
It's been 3 years... Time flyes crazy fast. I came to rewatch this scene and to read the comment section and found my older comment with an interesting answer to it.
Came here again and again I'm impressed by your observation 🧡🔥👍
Man ... this scene crackles with energy when Keaton and Walken are facing down against each other across that table ...
Two actors with that special ... 'SOMETHING'
I loved max’s expression when Selena walked back in
“How on earth is she still alive?”
Dude walking up on bruce like that. not even realizing the damage he can do to him because he is batman
Tim Burton's batman always made me feel as though I was watching a live comic book, entertaining and yet nostalgic of my childhood comic book escapism!
And do you think the animated series captures the Burton films?
This is a great scene that shows how great Keaton really was as Bruce Wayne.
I love the moment Bruce grabs his coat. It's the one unguarded exchange between Selina and Max in this scene. But her positioning and hair hide her face, thus keeping us a little in the dark about what her exact next move is going to be.
Holy shit! I never noticed that!!
Selina: I’m Listed
Bruce: I’m tempted
Selina: I’m working
Bruce: I’M LEAVING!!
"Did you injure yourself..." *turns Ike Turner eyes up to ten* "...on that ski slope?" Fuckin' hilarious.
Once from a timid mouse, to a confident Cat, my what a difference.
I just love how chill Max is with the fact Selina Kyle came back alive after he killed her.
'Nothing surprises me... next time I'll drop her outta a higher window' like this kind of thing happens all the time and doesn't bother him LMAO
well he was obviously shocked, he just got over it quick
Ruthless. "That bitch try tah blackmail me, Imma drop her out a higher window". Damn.
David Israel ruthless is what she did to his ass after ;)
funny the confidence he has after his murder attempt was an absolute failure lol
It’s funny both Michael and Michelle are now in the MCU now. Michael as Vulture and Michelle as Janet Van Dyne/Wasp.
The BEST catwoman ever!
As a child, I couldn't appreciate most of the acting and dialogue. I'll have to rewatch this.
3:12 meanwhile Bruce is thinking
“saaaay you look like you wear black leather to cope too”
Even the way she flirts is cat-like 😅.
Batman Returns is a scathing critique of unrestricted capitalism. This movie hits different as an adult.
My goodness. I used to watch this movie on repeat when I was young in the early-mid 90s. This is the first time watching parts of it in about 30 years. It’s so crazy how watching something you haven’t seen in so long takes you back to feeling like a kid again. Also terrifying how fast the time goes.
“I could free up some time….”
“I’m listed.”
“I’m tempted.”
“I’m working.”
“… I’m leaving.”
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I don’t think I appreciated at the time how amazingly good Michelle Pfeiffer was in this role. So much going on with her in this scene, and she plays it perfectly.
One of the best superhero movies ever made.
She sold this...she plays against type and villains really well on the rare occasions she does so...
3:00 "hes dead now" 🔥
Michelle Pfeiffer is Catwoman, she owns the character. Anne Hathaway was a joke.
I don't know what the heck that was with Anne Hathaway but that was no catwoman in my eyes. Hate to say it but it was not memorable at all!
@Rose Tico Enthusiast the crazy thing is Two-face could've been an outstanding character even with the joker but there was no character development and so forth. So you're absolutely correct in what you're saying. Especially with Bane and Catwoman. Like that combo didn't even fit and he made Bane this juggernaut type character and Catwoman a regular common thief...like wtf?
Catwoman has black hair and green eyes.
Anne was more like the comics. Michelle was a very different take on the character. I enjoyed both a lot.
@Izaan ur rehman
The dark knight rises was a big joke of a movie with full of plot holes and silly twist. It may earn 5 billion dollar still it was a crap movie. Also The dark knight got defeated by the avengers in box office by mile but it doesn't take away the face TDK was greatest super hero movie with best villain heath ledger. Box office doesn't mean anything. Talking about catwoman Anna hathway doesn't even hold a candle MP catwoman. She had zero emotion and had a boring story that not worthy to be remembered.