@@zeiruscop She certainly knows *how* to use the words she knows to convey meaning, and this is a great highlight of that. That's a skill many (heck, most) people struggle with, even in their primary language.
I mean, she definitely studied her ass off learning english for a long time, and I’d say being able to communicate is the entire metric for your language skill being ‘good’
It seems to me she's been subconsciously learning English, like just now she learned a new word without even thinking about it. Her English only stream is disjoined but she maintained it for a long time and chose words that conveyed her meaning with little thinking time. I remember a compilation clip of every time she said "Happy Birthday" showing her pronunciation steadily improving. I also remember she noticed the grammar was wrong on an English phrase when she was playing the Telephone game but just had to roll with it. I was so weirdly proud of her at that moment.
Yeah absolutely. People get anal about doing things right when learning a language, or when westerners listen to other people speaking English. You don't need to be perfect, you just need to be able to be understood. "I eat juice" may not be *right* but it's able to be understood. Yeah sure the correct would be "I am drinking some juice" but if your goal is to communicate, the former is more than a passing grade.
The beautiful thing about Korone is that behind all of the vtuber shtick and internet culture she really is just a good old fashion entertainer. OBS gives her a play set and she can engage anyone at any level from any nation and still bring home the feeling of just being in the company of a person who knows how to entertain her audience.
Heck, if anything Korone is _the_ quintessential vtuber. Notice how she is the only notorious chuuba that actively and frequently plays around with her model even mid-stream and uses it for gags and bits. The only other one I can think of is Marine when she uses the tip of her hat to point at stuff on the screen, but that's a pale imitation of how hard Ko'one goes.
@@DinnerForkTongue Miko plays around her Model pretty well too. I think Korone, Nene and Miko are the best at utilizing their Vtuber Models. It makes it more engaging and realistic.
She used to be a streamer before become Korone and she sometimes wear a silly moustache glasses on her stream. Shes a funny and silly girl and never change❤❤
Korone is an OG, plenty of people fell down the rabbit hole because of her. Thats why the kaigai niki love her, shes still the same doggo we knew and love.
I'm pretty sure that she was the first Holomem that I found. Somehow that transitioned to a little of Aqua, but Suisei brought me fully in to most of the others as well.
@burnttoast26 Holo, Phase, Idol, VSPo, kawaii, VShojo, the usual gaggle of indies (Numi, Giri, Sinder, Lily, etc), everyone is fine doing their own thing or watching from the bleachers. Though I'd still argue that it is important, because this debacle is gonna set a huge number of precedents.
I love when Korone interact with the overseas fans she sounds so excited to talk with us, and personally it's not only cause of the fact that we may have a nice comprehension, but overall she does an amazing job explaining what she wants to express, from the meaning of what she wants to explain, in this case soup, to the pronunciation of a word and a visual example, much like a teacher
I'll never forget the many useful words Korone has taught us, such as: - "doron" - "kyorochan" - "shimi shimi daikon" - "gendoukitsukijitensha" - "zoumotsu" - and of course "watashi ga oshieru nihongo wa amari yaku e masen" She not only expresses herself clearly, but has taught us to understand her, much like Moona understands Pekora.
It's always so cute to see Korone have so much fun with her little drawings and pictures she puts on her screen. She puts a smile on my face every time ❤
Thank you for the translation. I've been a member of hers for two years but I barely understand a lick of Japanese. You are the bridge of understanding that allows plebs like myself to enjoy her content to the fullest extent.
Korone actually spurred me into actively learning Japanese some months ago (part self-taught, now on a proper language course). I'm still only getting into sentence structure, but I couldn't possibly put in words how rewarding it is.
Honestly if you watch Korone enough, you just sort of end up being able to understand her no matter what language (or lack of) she's speaking. My Japanese is awful, but yet I still feel like I can get a good grasp on what she's saying/feeling at times. Her model being so expressive really helps with that as well. Also, after so long... Japanese Study Time... we are SO back.
Korone is not just amazing at teaching anything in any language with great illustrations, but she also has an incredible sense of humor in any language.
And again the doggo shows that you don't need to be fluent in a language. You only need enough to make yourself understood. And if you don't know a word, but have a way to describe what you mean, you'll be just fine.
Korone was my gateway into the Vtubing world, but it was also the RE4 playthrough she did awhile back. She's just... so pleasant, and funny- especially her laugh, or giggle she does, so I just started getting hooked watching her. I love it when she's happy, it just feels like the state she should always be in.
i love her explanations (and quizzes) for the kaigainikis, she’s so creative with english even when she doesn’t 100% have the vocabulary to say what she wants to
Honestly another English-only stream from Korone would be a slam dunk. The original SMB one was a blast already and she's only gotten better since then. And if she lacks vocabulary, chat is eager to provide.
i love how she says "reward" and tilts feeds chat soup and english chat erupts into "YEAH" and "YUM" etc, like they're a bunch of kindergarteners. it's amazing. i love it.
It helps that english itself is actually quite flexible with grammar and sentence structure, even if it's not 100% right, it's not that much of a stretch to understand the message.
I'd imagine modern English being an amalgam language makes it a double-edged sword for ESL learners. Multiple rulesets that do or don't apply at arbitrary times, but also plenty of synonyms and loanwords, so it's difficult to construct a proper sentence but easy to communicate a point in context
Even though I haven't been taught japanese, I understand her more than others because of her accent. Her inflections put emphasis on almost every... I guess kana? The syllables.
Technically Gura would be the fish but it would probably be very insensitive and kinda dark to say Gura Soup considering how many of her shark comrades are killed each year for shark fin soup.
@@DinnerForkTongue One can only hope that her existence itself is somewhat lessening the bias against these magnificent creatures. So that all of them can stay with us for a long time.
Korone's english has really improved. As for arajiru, I was curious, so I looked it up. Looked appetizing at first until I saw it was made with fish head... Um... No thanks.
She is just soo skilled in teaching and kagainikis are just that built different. In another note, dammn this bgm brings me back to the old shy Moom era
This is one of the reasons the English language is so fantastic. Yes, its grammar, spelling, and finer nuances are an absolute fustercluck... but none of that is necessary to be understood. You can speak extremely rudimentary English and hold an entirely comprehensible conversation.
For some reason, despite the Mumei BGM being a relatively recent addition to her streams, I wondered if this clip was from ancient times, until she actually spoke. Only now have I realised just how much improvement her pronunciation has undergone since 2020. For somebody who considers herself to be unable to speak English, she does a damn good job at it.
You know. Because of my work, I sometimes have to talk (I'm not a native English speaker) with people who don't know much of my language and often don't know much English either. And I dare say that HoloJP has helped me get used to it and maybe even made me better at it.
Koro-san's cuteness is the main translator. In a way, it's too bad it didn't work too well when playing _Keep Talking And Nobody Explodes_ with Calli, but in another way, it resulted in another cute and funny clip.
Just to elaborate further on arajiru, Japanese people often fillet their fish into 3 parts. Usually called sanmai oroshi, but essentially it's just removing the two fillets of meat from the head/bones. So you're left with three parts - two fillets and the head/bones. Arajiru would be using just the head/bones.
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For someone who "doesn't speak english", Korone has an incredible ability to make herself understood.
While Korone doesn’t speak proper English, she can somehow interpret what Kiara said, no mistakes made.
if you put "hey guys" in front of every sentence, we will understand it regardless of how broken the sentence is
@@赤ゲキshe has the sense to understand what is the context of the sentence
@@brilleon
Which is already quite good in its own right. While she won’t be able to respond back in English, at the very least she can understand.
@@caesar986she also has to say "okay?" or else we don't understand
I love when she says 'GUYS', she sounds so excited to share something she just found out
it's the summoning word for oversea guys
@@m4r00123
The counterpart to a dog whistle :D
Dudes guys bros
Dawgs
Just like a puppy.
she really has dog energy lol
It's hilarious how she regularly praises the foreigners but rarely the Japanese viewers lol
It's called audience retention, and it pays off
She keep the Japanese viewers by doing her signature pressure tactics and holding their fingers 😂
I think Flare's also got the same situation. Kaigai niki getting spoiled while jp niki getting roasted. sometimes literally XD
@@NakanoHitori It aint that deep, just a bit
@@NakanoHitori she's feeling like interacting with toddler lmao
Korone's *_"Hey Guuuys~!"_* never fails to make me smile. She sounds so genuinely happy to interact with the EN viewers. It's very wholesome.
Hey Guys is the most universally accepted call for English speakers across all the JP talents, second only to English profanities.
@@jasonkeith2832 Followed very closely by the sound of desk slams.
Followed closely by Flare. She sure learned from her senpai on that ❤
It's also a fair bit louder, like she expected us to have dozed off by this point and is trying to get our attention 😂
I love how she creates a new meme every time she speaks English without even trying.
You'd swear she was a kindergarten teacher with her explantions and little pictures.
[glances at Mikochi and Pekora]
That's not ridiculous, it's not ridiculous to say that.
There is a surprising overlap of teachers and hololive members
@@Aegis--- Sadly not too much actual education outside of Ollie and Raden.
This is why we love our Doggo. Such a good teacher.
I think i've heard that she literally studied that, which would explain her ease to make herself clear and teach
@@zeiruscop She certainly knows *how* to use the words she knows to convey meaning, and this is a great highlight of that. That's a skill many (heck, most) people struggle with, even in their primary language.
If you wanted to double the amount of fish parts would it be ara ara jiru?
This is how Choco makes it
@@J3Puffin Choco does cook a lot.
Hi Ina, take my like.
🙄🧐😂
Found Ina Alt
she's such proof that you don't have to be good at a language to communicate, you just have to be willing to try
I mean, she definitely studied her ass off learning english for a long time, and I’d say being able to communicate is the entire metric for your language skill being ‘good’
Alternatively, if the goal is to communicate and you do it well, doesn’t that mean you are good at the language?
It seems to me she's been subconsciously learning English, like just now she learned a new word without even thinking about it. Her English only stream is disjoined but she maintained it for a long time and chose words that conveyed her meaning with little thinking time. I remember a compilation clip of every time she said "Happy Birthday" showing her pronunciation steadily improving. I also remember she noticed the grammar was wrong on an English phrase when she was playing the Telephone game but just had to roll with it. I was so weirdly proud of her at that moment.
Yeah absolutely. People get anal about doing things right when learning a language, or when westerners listen to other people speaking English.
You don't need to be perfect, you just need to be able to be understood. "I eat juice" may not be *right* but it's able to be understood. Yeah sure the correct would be "I am drinking some juice" but if your goal is to communicate, the former is more than a passing grade.
Except Ko'one _is_ good. Notice how she doesn't speak incomprehensible nonsense.
The beautiful thing about Korone is that behind all of the vtuber shtick and internet culture she really is just a good old fashion entertainer. OBS gives her a play set and she can engage anyone at any level from any nation and still bring home the feeling of just being in the company of a person who knows how to entertain her audience.
Heck, if anything Korone is _the_ quintessential vtuber. Notice how she is the only notorious chuuba that actively and frequently plays around with her model even mid-stream and uses it for gags and bits.
The only other one I can think of is Marine when she uses the tip of her hat to point at stuff on the screen, but that's a pale imitation of how hard Ko'one goes.
@@DinnerForkTongue Miko plays around her Model pretty well too. I think Korone, Nene and Miko are the best at utilizing their Vtuber Models. It makes it more engaging and realistic.
She used to be a streamer before become Korone and she sometimes wear a silly moustache glasses on her stream. Shes a funny and silly girl and never change❤❤
It's impossible to not have a massive grin on your face while watching Korone.
Woah it's been so long since I heard her say Japanese Study Time, it felt so nostalgic for a moment
same
"Long time no see" was right.
We're never gonna graduate at this rate! Fish-fish.
@@Necroneer Holy shit I haven't see you in a long while lol good to see you are still around watching clips
Haha same haven't seen you in a while, that's why I thought I'd reply to this comment@@Nyukes
We remain loyal to her call
She has called, we must answer.
The beacons are lit! Gondor calls for aid!
"Hey guys" The chat of jp vtuber Primes heed the call
Her English is getting so good.
Wait do I have to eat the bowl too?
Korone: "REWARD! REWARD!"
... Yes doggy god
JUST EAT THE BOWL LIKE A NORMAL PERSON
Korone is an OG, plenty of people fell down the rabbit hole because of her. Thats why the kaigai niki love her, shes still the same doggo we knew and love.
I'm pretty sure that she was the first Holomem that I found. Somehow that transitioned to a little of Aqua, but Suisei brought me fully in to most of the others as well.
her explaining piki piki piiman was one of the first hololive clips i saw
I just found out her in video “water in fire, why?”, and yeah, I fell down to rabbit hole
I found Pekora a few minutes before Korone, both being reasons I fell, but Korone is my oshi!
That's right
She is my doggy god so she'll always be my number 1
While the Vtuber world is burning and chaos non-stop, Korone at her corner with her clip arts.
Man, when you can eat your food while everyone else is losing theirs, and blaming you, you straight, homie.
@@DinnerForkTongue Just like the good book said.
@@zenmastakilla
Nah, that's just some poetry I've read.
It's really just a certain part of the vtuber world that's on fire, Holo is generally unaffected.
@burnttoast26 Holo, Phase, Idol, VSPo, kawaii, VShojo, the usual gaggle of indies (Numi, Giri, Sinder, Lily, etc), everyone is fine doing their own thing or watching from the bleachers. Though I'd still argue that it is important, because this debacle is gonna set a huge number of precedents.
Her English is VERY good. I especially like when she says “hey guys” before a long string of English
Put the Kronii soup together with the Korone pizza and we will have a fine meal!
Blended subs is extra on the side
_...BUT PROFESSOR UTONIUM ACCIDENTALLY ADDED AN EXTRA INGREDIENT TO THE CONCOCTION: _*_HAACHAMA PIZZA!_*
@@DistractedGlobeGuy *HAACHAMA Curry
@@Gaehhn How about some CowFauna milk too?
@@syntheretique385 Ina milk
I always imagined Korone's interaction with outside JP fans is similar to how a lot of pidgin languages formed.
Oh no doubt. Willingness to communicate (from both parties) always wins.
Pretty much, if you picture large numbers of people on both sides putting in the effort Korone does over a longer period of time.
LMFAO this was the most insane way to explain something over a language barrier. And it actually works
If it's crazy and it works, then how crazy is it? lol
Definition, explanation and visual aids, 10/10 teaching method.
I love when Korone interact with the overseas fans she sounds so excited to talk with us, and personally it's not only cause of the fact that we may have a nice comprehension, but overall she does an amazing job explaining what she wants to express, from the meaning of what she wants to explain, in this case soup, to the pronunciation of a word and a visual example, much like a teacher
I'll never forget the many useful words Korone has taught us, such as:
- "doron"
- "kyorochan"
- "shimi shimi daikon"
- "gendoukitsukijitensha"
- "zoumotsu"
- and of course "watashi ga oshieru nihongo wa amari yaku e masen"
She not only expresses herself clearly, but has taught us to understand her, much like Moona understands Pekora.
Korone: Actual prop comedy genius.
The way she uses her assets and the tools of her streaming software as props is just *chef's kiss.*
It's always so cute to see Korone have so much fun with her little drawings and pictures she puts on her screen.
She puts a smile on my face every time ❤
she knows enough english that she can have fun with it; and it is nice to see.
Her engrish is top tier
Thank you for the translation. I've been a member of hers for two years but I barely understand a lick of Japanese. You are the bridge of understanding that allows plebs like myself to enjoy her content to the fullest extent.
Korone actually spurred me into actively learning Japanese some months ago (part self-taught, now on a proper language course). I'm still only getting into sentence structure, but I couldn't possibly put in words how rewarding it is.
Honestly if you watch Korone enough, you just sort of end up being able to understand her no matter what language (or lack of) she's speaking. My Japanese is awful, but yet I still feel like I can get a good grasp on what she's saying/feeling at times. Her model being so expressive really helps with that as well.
Also, after so long... Japanese Study Time... we are SO back.
When you heard "hey guys", you know it's time
Notto understando~
Korone San best teacher ❤
Am I the only one that gets tingles from her explanations and sound effects? It's like ASMR lol
Forget lovey-dovey ASMR, I want happy teacher ASMR.
Korone is not just amazing at teaching anything in any language with great illustrations, but she also has an incredible sense of humor in any language.
Her adorable energy transcends the language barrier
ko'ne too cute with all her lil pictures, lol
Korone never forgets us kaigainiki, she really is sweet
And again the doggo shows that you don't need to be fluent in a language. You only need enough to make yourself understood. And if you don't know a word, but have a way to describe what you mean, you'll be just fine.
Good job! Now as a reward, you get to swallow this bowl whole xD
Korone was my gateway into the Vtubing world, but it was also the RE4 playthrough she did awhile back. She's just... so pleasant, and funny- especially her laugh, or giggle she does, so I just started getting hooked watching her.
I love it when she's happy, it just feels like the state she should always be in.
Korone: Hey Guuuys-
Kaigainiki: We have been summoned!
I love when she just yells HEY GUYS 😭😭 so precious
Korone's passion English is so good!
Really, she always just does everything she can to make everyone feel welcome. You gotta love Korone.
You can really tell that she used to be a kindergarten teacher
She's the best. My Kami Oshi Korone. Her unique sense of humor with PNG's is just fantastic.
Korone: Japanese Study Time
Chat: Its super effective
My collage language professor: Is it possible to learn this power?
Do not do the Hopeless Situation elder can...
-oh wait that's Chinese-
not unless you want to be in the rabbit hole!
We aced that quiz :D
It’s impossible not to smile watching Korone
Nice as a reward chat got fish soup fed to them by korone 😂
She teaches us, praises us, AND feeds us? What more could you ask for?!
I love how she could emit adorable and upbeat atmosphere while her background image is really horrifying.
that was just so damn cute ☺️
I like she does it like teaching a preschool kids
Her little illustrations are so cute~
When doggo says "maybe if I had some illustrations" you know we're in for a good time
I love her effort to explain to us even though English isn't her first language. It's wholesome and cute.
God Korone is such a treasure.
Someone ate all the fish, and realized they still had to make dinner for the family, thus a new dish was born
Reminds me of (the popular theory about) how feijoada was created.
I Just Noticed Shes Using Mumeis BGM
Got ASMR tingles from this. What a good doggo.
i love her explanations (and quizzes) for the kaigainikis, she’s so creative with english even when she doesn’t 100% have the vocabulary to say what she wants to
Honestly another English-only stream from Korone would be a slam dunk. The original SMB one was a blast already and she's only gotten better since then. And if she lacks vocabulary, chat is eager to provide.
I love how Korone associated ara ara with Kronii 😂
omg Korone's teaching explanations to EN fans are always so precious 😭
Being fed by Korone is quite the reward.
i love how she says "reward" and tilts feeds chat soup and english chat erupts into "YEAH" and "YUM" etc, like they're a bunch of kindergarteners. it's amazing. i love it.
2:18 is probably my favourite korone noise of all time
It's been years since the first time I started watching clips of her, but she's still the cutest!!! I love her JST segments
Korone is so adorable
Thanks Korone for feeding us
It helps that english itself is actually quite flexible with grammar and sentence structure, even if it's not 100% right, it's not that much of a stretch to understand the message.
I'd imagine modern English being an amalgam language makes it a double-edged sword for ESL learners. Multiple rulesets that do or don't apply at arbitrary times, but also plenty of synonyms and loanwords, so it's difficult to construct a proper sentence but easy to communicate a point in context
Even though I haven't been taught japanese, I understand her more than others because of her accent. Her inflections put emphasis on almost every... I guess kana? The syllables.
🍲 + 🐟
Hey guys...soup or arajiru?
(Trick question: it's Tamago.)
I actually had arajiru for the first time recently and in Japan too! It is a very comforting soup. I can see why it’s Korone’s favorite.
Ah, an adorable Korone English clip. Never fails to bring a smile and laughter. 😊
Its cause effort is more important than prowess when trying to convey something.
She is good at explaining things like to a child I give her that. And "long time no see" activated some forgotten memories.
Fish stock soup = Arajiru = Ara Ara soup = Kronii soup
Kronii = Fish?
Technically Gura would be the fish but it would probably be very insensitive and kinda dark to say Gura Soup considering how many of her shark comrades are killed each year for shark fin soup.
@@kylepessell1350 But Goomba is safe. She has no dorsal fin.
@@DinnerForkTongue One can only hope that her existence itself is somewhat lessening the bias against these magnificent creatures. So that all of them can stay with us for a long time.
It's amazing how much her English improved. She sounds so much more casual compared to even just a year ago.
She could easily host a kids show for ground level english understanding. Or be a kindergardener. 🙂
Korone's english has really improved.
As for arajiru, I was curious, so I looked it up. Looked appetizing at first until I saw it was made with fish head... Um... No thanks.
Drink the soup without eating the fish head. Though I still recommend it, the head has plenty of satisfying meat inside.
She is just soo skilled in teaching and kagainikis are just that built different. In another note, dammn this bgm brings me back to the old shy Moom era
I was watching this live and it was absolutely precious to catch it live
I love it how she activates Kaigai niki with "Guys!" like it's a wake word for a voice assistant.
korone very amazing!
This is one of the reasons the English language is so fantastic. Yes, its grammar, spelling, and finer nuances are an absolute fustercluck... but none of that is necessary to be understood. You can speak extremely rudimentary English and hold an entirely comprehensible conversation.
Huh. TIL.
For some reason, despite the Mumei BGM being a relatively recent addition to her streams, I wondered if this clip was from ancient times, until she actually spoke. Only now have I realised just how much improvement her pronunciation has undergone since 2020. For somebody who considers herself to be unable to speak English, she does a damn good job at it.
Wouldn't be the first time Korone's skills surpass her self judgement.
You know. Because of my work, I sometimes have to talk (I'm not a native English speaker) with people who don't know much of my language and often don't know much English either. And I dare say that HoloJP has helped me get used to it and maybe even made me better at it.
She has such fun with her images XD also Korone praise can make you capable of anything! :0 (and soup 🍲)
With those amazing illustration, how can you not understand?
Help Korone My jaw is coming off korone How are you supposed to fix my jaw right now because we eat the bowl 🥣👀??? 👁️👄👁️
good find! the best Korone clip I've seen in a long time 👏
I think kaigainiki who don't understand JP, but can actually watch the streams are probably very intuitive people. 🤔
More or less. I'd credit Korone's ability to make herself understood, and just her general warm welcoming bakery doog vibe.
Koro-san's cuteness is the main translator. In a way, it's too bad it didn't work too well when playing _Keep Talking And Nobody Explodes_ with Calli, but in another way, it resulted in another cute and funny clip.
Bless Korone she is to Precious for this World
I haven't seen doggo in awhile, glad to know she is still based.
Man I adore this doggo. She's a treasure.
This is one of the greatest Korone clips of all time.
I just love how the Yubi-Hime turns into Koro, the Explorer when she explains stuff. Its adorable. :D
Just to elaborate further on arajiru, Japanese people often fillet their fish into 3 parts. Usually called sanmai oroshi, but essentially it's just removing the two fillets of meat from the head/bones. So you're left with three parts - two fillets and the head/bones.
Arajiru would be using just the head/bones.
A good parallel is fish stock soup.
JP members saying “Hey guys!” or some variant of it when addressing their English viewers will never get old