These 5 FORGE WORLD Models SUCK and 5 of the BEST!
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I love how Games Workshop has the unmitigated gall to use the word "Only" in front of the number 649.99
Right????
@John Finucane FWIW, the exchange rates at the time made that 40,000 pence.
It's humour the form you have to sign makes you tick a box to say that you really are insane
I would be the sarcastic person working there who would put that
If you ever read the disclaimer on the old Thunderhawk, it was a long winded rant that literally said you must to be stark raving mad to buy this model...
The Rogal Dorn model is surveying the area to see where fortifications are needed
Is it just me or does Dorn look cross eyed?!
@@ashleybevilacqua6260 He's so angry he's cross... eyed
Sand bags. I need sand bags
He needs a mustache
You will probably never see this but the reason most of the primarch models are in an attacking pose is because they are made to be paired with a second primarch, the best example from memory is lemon russ and magnus the red where when put together look like they are attacking eachother
Hmmm cool
In other news; water is wet!
@@WardenOfTerra Plot twist: water was never wet, it was just moist
@@anightlord1852 more damp than moist
"Expensive side of the hobby" can we agree on "More expensive side of the hobby"? XD
Yeah, when he said that I thought; "There's a cheap side of the hobby?"
@@drewlovelyhell4892 yea ther eis . buying recasts.
Drew Lovelyhell using stand-up cardboard proxies for every model (not shop or tournament legal!)
This list should really just be every model on Forgeworld listed in ascending order of price... No amount of awesomeness could offset the suck introduced by their pricing!
"the Driver can't see left or right" *stares in Bradley driver*
Stares in most tanks from ww2.
You can't pick Dorn when 1) Perturabo's model exists and 2) you have to make a green stuff mustache for him
totally. Pert is intimidating to even think about painting but also the main reason i want one :) plus he'd look dope leading my IW'Ss .....might be my next big project after indomitus box is done
Dorn never had a moustache though.
@ tried watching it and hated it lmao
@@axemurderer010 He also stand on a Knight which he propably killed himself.:-)
Damnnn some ballsy picks in the worst category lol
Yeah felt off 😂
Not sure he knows that the stormbird was replaced by the thunderhawk in the lore
I don’t think the mastodon is bad at all I love it personally
Yup, Sicarans are actually my favorite tank design in all of 40k.
And how would it look like its gonna snap off? Has he seen a Stryker MGS turret irl? it looks way flimsier but it works.
Felt it deep in my soul when he picked stormbird, sicarians and mastadon. Those are some of the best stuff.
Even worse is that a Rogue Idol is no where to be seen! The fugging styrox pile got a pass
Personally I love how chunky the Mastodon is. Like it could just off a direct hit from an artillery shell.
Same.
Weirdly enough, I like literally all of the models in your worst list - especially the mastodon heavy transport.
YES.
Except for tyranid. That one reaaly looks like a bad scratchbuild.
Same, amazing models
Love the mastodon
I love the Sicaran.
Love rabbits
The only thing I disagree with is that big Nid.
Love how it looks, propper alien vibe.
Like it would reign terror on the battlefield, chopping everything to pieces and feasting upon their biomass.
And my altime favourite FW sculpt is the Canoptek Heavy Construct as who doenst love the big spooderbot. I just wish it had some melee options for weapons.
As much as I appreciate FW models, I have a tough time purchasing items that at top cost still need a lot of remodeling & PRE-modeling before you can actually start. Great video
I'm right with you but on some of the stuff I've just had to pull the trigger n get, nothing too insane but still I couldn't pass them up
@@josephskiles no no no I TOTALLY understand. Certain models from FW you just NEED, it puts us in tough spot sometimes making that choice. Enjoy your hobby time & be safe friend
Exactly. If im paying $500 for a model, it better be perfect quality
They can be a HUGE pain in the ass to press. Some come damn near perfect and others look just as bad as recasts.
@@1nePercentJuice honestly tho, every recast I've bought has been better quality and more consistent than forgeworld.
Sitting here looking at my mastodon and my warlord titan with an unimpressed 10 metre stare going.
"All around me are familiar faces ,worn out places ....."
Lucky!
The Dimachaeron looks like the BIGGEST tipping hazard GW ever made... All the worst aspects of the hormagaunt models combined with the bulk of a Carnifex.
The Sicaran tank: “guess they crawl out when there’s a problem”
There’s NO problem - the Emperor Protects!
What do you think of the sicaran venator with it’s fun moulded into the chassis?
Edit: meant to say gun but I agree with autocorrect on this one 😂😂
That green sicaran is my absolute favorite.
I love the FW carnifex with he claws and rams
The moment the mastodon bunny realisation dropped....
We clearly have very different ideas on what makes a good/bad model 😅
The Dimachaeron is one of my favourite models as it's so reminiscent of the Xenomorph from Aliens. I think it being very spindly works given it's a fast attack model, I couldn't imagine the chunky nids sprinting across the battle field
As far as the Primarchs go, I'm not a fan of Dorn, he just looks so dull not being in a pose. I favour Vulcan and The Lion
The Lion model is my favourite of the primarch’s as well
I think the dimachaeron would look better if he was smaller, he's just so tall that the proportions don't make sense to me. But different opinions.
@@jacobb.9181 If we all thought the same, life would be very boring.
@@RequiemWraith indeed so
As a man who literally just bought a Custodes Grav tank for my army that I’m learning how to paint… that will be my big piece
I love these videos , you should do one for every faction!
"It's unbecoming of Primarchs"
Laughs in Leman Russ
*laughs in The Lion alongside the laughs in Leman Russ*
3:55 oh wow it does look like a bunny. Now I kind of want to find an excuse to include rabbit-themed stuff in a 40k army.
Edit: I also love the Mournghul. I so want to get one and use greenstuff to turn it into SCP-096 and homebrew rules
So, I get exactly what you mean with the Mastadon, but I love it for the same reasons
Nowadays GW can produce full plastic models on such a high quality level, I really don't understand why they still stick to FW.
exactly
GW can only produce so many plastic models every year and some models are either too large or too niche to get the plastic treatment.
FW models have always been more niche than GW ones, so it actually makes sense. The average hobbyist isn't buying a Warlord Titan, nor are they buying a Thunderhawk, units you can only really bring out in Apocalypse, which can be tough to organize because now you need more board space, people with thousands of points of models and a whole day to kill.
This ties back to resin v plastic. Plastic seems to be the gold standard, it's lightweight, it sticks together pretty well and it's reasonably resistant to bending, however it's far more expensive to mass produce. The molds are more expensive and require far more maintenance than for resin or pewter. In other words, if GW makes a plastic kit they have to commit to said kit more than if they made a pewter or resin kit, in order to get a return. Resin is better for the more niche models which fewer people will buy. They can be extremely detailed and they don't need to sell a ton to get a return.
That said, the gap between GW and FW has been narrowing. FW has made more conventional army lists rather than just normal supplement models and upgrade kits. and GW has been making bigger models that FW used to.
Because GW still has a tendency to cheapen the Resin-to-Plastic translation kits, see the plastic Contemptor Dreadnought. I will say the new plastic Kriegers are a good step in the right direction, albeit their proportions are a little hammier, but that's okay. But the Great Unclean One is defo more of a roundboi than the FW one, Keeper of Secrets lacks the triple titty nightmare show (for the best), etc. Idk if its just because the painting team at FW paints their models using more conventional scale modeling techniques rather than the uber-branded citadel ones, but a lot of the daemons- particularly nurgle ones- have a lot of intricate details that are caught much better by the resin at least or perhaps the paint that I feel as though the plastic kits fail to live up to (Mamon Transfigured/Nurgle Daemon Prince for example).
Mecha bunny and Tau Polly-woggs, I can't un-see that now!
In regards to the Mastadon, I think a lot of people miss the point of the design of a lot of space marine vehicles, especially horus heresy ones, in that they're intentionally not designed to go in any direction other than forward, they're meant to just charge into the frontline and weather the storm, rather than relying on efficient turning. Also tracked vehicles tend to look like they can't turn despite they can quite easily and sometimes even better than wheeled vehicles. As for my top picks, XV9 battlesuits are the best out of the Tau range in my opinion, plus the fusion cascades give me hope for the rest of my fusion blaster heavy farsight enclaves army. However if I had to pick something out that I love the most it would probably be the solar auxilia lasrifle section, they're such awesome models and it's a shame that they're locked away as an almost too expensive army to field in a side game with very few players.
I think you’re bang on about vehicle turning. Sometimes we try to think of tracked vehicles moving like wheeled vehicles, when in reality many tracked vehicles can turn on the spot by having tracks on one side move forward while the others move backwards. I find it highly unlikely that the mastadon wouldn’t have neutral steering.
Always loved the Tantalus, Scorpion II, and the Nightwing. :) super lucky to have these in my collection too.
Great video :)
I loved having the fw varient leman russ hull or turrets. Made my tanks unique in a more subtle way.
Personally my favourite are the Custodian Venatari Squad. They’re just so cool to look at and have some great poses
Theae videos are pretty fun to watch and enjoyable.
The Mastodon is my absolute favourite Forge World model. Ouch.
It’s one of my favourites too. Used to be my favourite as well til I saw the forge world custodes
Truthfully, I kinda like the mastodon. I like big, clunky APCs with a bunch of guns poking out everywhere. It looks like it's meant to be a big battering ram that drops troops out when it breaks through the wall.
Dimachaeron is one of my favourite Tyranid models 😂 I don't play without bringing mine, love it to bits
Thank you, one person who like's it and probaply get why and how Tyranids are sculpted for Battle and Special Purposes.
I've found recasters do better moulds of FW stuff (shhhhh) , less trimming and work involved to build it, believe it or not. Nearly $800 for a complete supremacy armor or $150 for the same thing but better qaulity with less work needed.
What 3D printer did you use to print these out? They look gorgeous
Hell yeah man, that lancer cerastus is EASILY one of my favorite knights. I'd love to pick one up if I ever go crazy into mechanicus or something.
I've actually been buying a couple models from them lately . one of my favorite of all time models is the Night Lord praetor with jump pack, I love that guy and modded 2 of them so they are 40k legal, I also got the Night Lords Leviathan which is beyond cool! I also have the Trog hag and the Belladonna model coming in the mail soon, can't wait!
the Mastodon is not manouverable because He Just charges head- on into walls
I disagree with some of you picks but you have very valid points. Also, FW is not just about the « details »... it’s the whole esthetic ...
I don’t know, Leman Russ seems pretty in his element mid swing and screaming
the tyranid dimachareon is like my all time favourite tyranid model, and that is coming from someone who has the entire FW and GW tyranid range almost.
Having seen the mourngul in person I can say for a fact that it is one of the best FW sculpts in terms of small parts and how well it comes together. The khorne demon prince on the other hand
Not tried against a stompa, but my knight lancer took out a gorkanaut in one turn of combat.
The problem is. 4 out of the 5 of your picks.. Are for Horus heresy and not 40k.
They don't belong in the 40k shit aesthetic
My favorite is the Gargantuan Squiggoth
I LOVE the Roboute Guilliman miniature!
I have the Tau start collecting box and thats all i ever use lol
Someone-tells Angron to stand still.
Angron- Brain aneurysm rage intensifies!
I love my Great Knarlocs from FW, wish they hadn't discontinued them.
Ow, I actually love the forgeworld Tyranid :( It's a weird one for sure but the detail is insane and you can do so much with it
I have to disagree with the Mastadon. I think the big bulky brick looks cool😂
My personal favourite model is the Legion Praetor, with the Cerastus Knights (and generally the entire imperial Knight line) coming in second, and probably some of the larger eldar wraith constructs after that.
Thanks Dude, nice video
I gotta say i very much disagree with nearly all of these options, but its cool you shared them
Lol your opening statements about a centrpiece to your army for folks to goggle at is exactly what i was going for with my ebay rescue baneblade conversion. Got it for a steal as the previous owner had half converted it and lost motivation. I did get a macharius vanquisher from forgeworld (which along with the baneblade are my favorite 40k tanks and they are buddies in their own little squadron.
I love my dorn sculpt so much, when I first got him I gave him some FATT mutton chops with some green stuff.
I loved your last top/worst 5 so I HAD to see this one. I agree again 100% with the worst and I of course LOVE the Thunderhawk as its been in my mind since the 3rd edition Marine codex. Dorn too is top notch by far. Great video!
Fun fact: the ability of tracked vehicles to turn is all about ratios. The maximum length to width ratio is 5:3 for the tank to be able to turn. So long as the Mastodon's tracks keep these ratios, it can turn just fine, no matter how big and cumbersome it seems to be.
I really like the Flyers of Forgeworld. They look really cool but are not all that competitive usually. And so expensive you got to sell your army to get it for your army.
I agree with everything exept the Mastodon. Its a beast! Best looking tank Gw ever made.
My top forgeworld I would love to have, but never justify paying the price for are: A warlord Titan, Thunderhawk Gunship, and Sanguinius, he would be really fun to paint, too bad his base is not the large epic base he came with originally.
i love the mastadon :o
i.. uhm.. that's on my to-get list now bc of you xD
I agree with the weird treads on the Sicarian tank, they should be the other way around if you look at the inspiration, the British WW1 Mark tanks. The view port reminds me of the Churchill tank, which was even worse.
I have a noob question as I'm somewhat new to the hobby (so go easy on me haha) but do you use these FW minis with your Warhammer minis or are they a separate game?
Forgeworld make models for most of GWs games, 40k, blood bowl etc but they also have their own game, 30k, set in the horus heresy. They release books containing rules in using their 40k models in 40k games. If you're new it's easier to stick to GW for the time being. With all the books you'll need to field FW models in your 40k army.. Its a bit nuts
The fact their used to be a metap thunderhawk blows my mind with its size
FW’s original Osiron Dreadnaught for the Thousand Sons is absolutely gorgeous as well
The only primarch they got right with a charging pose is angron. Do you really see that guy having a chill pose. Na that’s guys going in like the demented psycho he is
The mourngul looks like scp 096
I love the masadon transport wish I could buy 3
Forgeworld is the expensive side? I thought all sides are expensive
Some of their stuff really isn't much worse than reg GW IMO
I'm new to the hobby but I hope to one day pick up one of those Word Bearers Possessed Space Marine Dreadnaught Hybrid things. (Forgot the name)
but there are 4 cerastus knights.....
but other than the FW custode options, i have been in love with the warhound titan since day one and also the thunderhawk. iconic as heck.
I've probably had the chaos dwarf line in my cart for a decade. Finally decided to pull the trigger after the holidays and they're going OOP. FW you cruel mistress.
How can you hate the mastodon. It’s one of my favourite models
When I realized he meant looks not function I was about to say dimachron on worst wtf lol
Personally my favourites are the Chaos Warhound Titan, Chaos War Mammoth, Thunderhawk gunship and Mastadon and the Ork Flakka-Dakka gun - love those
Someday, I am going to buy the Salamnders bundle
I quite like the Mastodon, its built like a brick but a heavy transport should be. The only major change i would want is the front treads being protected
the nid bad one looks like they were trying harder than normal for the Xenomorph look
Cerastus knights also have the benefit of being actually pretty damn good in tabletop. You throw in that lancer into melee and he's gonna wreck everything, even new Belakor wouldn't like to be face to face with him. Give him some guardsman buddies to rush onto points and you have an army that might not be the best but damn if it isn't cool and fun to play.
As to downing a stompa: you're actually pretty darn close. That thing is *really* scary. Plus that shield isn't for show. More often than not it's going to not take any damage.
I really like the Forgeworld dreadnoughts, the sculpts are great, and the price is seriously... pretty good for that size of model. The dreadnoughts are the exact sweet-spot for FW pricing.
This idea that plastic is on par with resin casting annoys me. Plastics have improved immensely, but as long as they are metal injections molds, they *cannot* have superior detail to resin, due to the way undercuts work. Additionally, resin kits will have fantastically detailed parts cast whole. You don't have to glue 2 to 5 pieces together to get the solid part, and then deal with seams (which GW is horrible at properly hiding 90% of the time). The plastic kits are great, but soft mold resin casts can't *really* be entirely replaced for fine/intricate detail across curved features.
My only issue with the Cerastus knights is that their legs are weirdly, un detailed or just too skinny. I love the castigator, but the legs keep me from pulling the trigger. I REALLY want to model one cutting a rhino in half or something like that.
You sold me on the bunny tank. I want a custom one that looks even more like a bunny
Don't really have a top and bottom five. But if I have to pick most likely to buy it would be the astreus. Thing just looks so sick. Least likely would be the titans. Would not be able to recover from them financialy.
my top forge world model is the night lords Contemptor dreadnought, and thanks to some rando who decided to sell theirs unopened to my local game store, I now own one!
I think the mastadon looks awesome. Aim to turn one into an ork super trukk
The MKII assault marines with jump packs has been on my list forever. Juuuust don’t want to get them off of AliExpress because FW inexplicably stopped producing them 😞
But the Mastodon and Stormbird are still in my cart, and all the Dark Angels models
What really threw me off was the complaint about spindly little weapon mounts, while, without trying to be offensive, I believe that Cerastus Knights are the definition of spindly and disproportionate (at least in 40k).
Yes
You cut me deep with the sicaran and sigismund man, I don't think I'm on board for this one.
Me for the Dimachaeron.
It is designed perfectly for it's purpose, to quickly find and destroy the leader of the opponent's Army. There is no way it could have been made better except with already existing models.
Ah man as a tau player, YES. tetras are some much a thing I WANT/NEED in my army.
"Swords, lances, and chainsaws." 🤣🤣🤣
When you were talking about Dorn and how the primarchs shouldn't be midswing I agree except for Angron
I actually like the look of the mastodon and the stormbird
Just got Grendl Grendlsen Squat Bounty Hunter. Such a cool model. bring back SQUATS!
cant do my dimachaeron wrong like this, its the most fun model iver ever made and painted, the mastodon is also tracked so it can very easily turn since it just needs specific tracks to run and not actually turn wheels
The Dimacheron is wrong because it has no building to lean on. If you add some conversion bits and building terrain onto the base, it will look more realistic and normal.
Sigismund looks so cool ngl, I like the obi wan style pose
What about the CRASSUS ARMOURED ASSAULT TRANSPORT?