NEW TO ZWIFT? Find out the FASTEST BIKES to unlock FIRST!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ส.ค. 2024
- In today's video I take a look and test the best bikes you can obtain as a new zwifter from level 5 - to level 10
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Lvl 13 & 2km away from Tron. Almost there!
Doubt it 😂
@@ukcakeman level 13 he says hahahhaha
Just got the ENVe wheels after a slog on the Innsbruck KoM. Now to work towards a frame. Thanks for the video.
Hi Chris, cheers for the brilliant video, that was exactly what I was looking for
Bought some posh wheels (350K), didn't understand what was going on tbh! Saving now for the Evo, many thanks
Can’t wait to get enough drops to get a new frame. Think I’ll go with the aero. Thanks for the great vida
bought the zwift bike today, i’m glad i made the right decision haha
Intresting would be a comparison of the zwift aerobike and the canyon aeroroad 2021
I think can be a good idea run these test again. Video has 3 years and many bikes have changed. Cheers
I'm not going to worry about sponsored riders but I'm glad someone's giving them a tip of the hat.
I should have watched this before buying the Ribble Endurance. I only bought it a few days ago.... typical. I will be sure to check out you videos when its time to upgrade again!
Absolutely agree with you - bikes should be rated and equal if equally rated.
Nice vid. Hey Pritch, wish me happy birthday! (please) lol. Unlocked the Meilensteins today, birthday luck!
happy b day DJ :) (for yesterday i guess)
@@cyclenutter2715 haha thanks Giacomo, that makes you and Gplama wishing me one
D.J.Hunter 2 extraordinarily famous TH-camrs 😂👌
Got the tcr advanced sl cos I am riding a tcr in real life really surprised that the cannodale is cheaper than the tcr though
i'm probably going to do the aero bike and then jump to the cannondale, thanks for the video great job Pritchard
Still on the basic carbon bike. I'm holding out for the Tarmac at level 11
I did the same thing definitely worth the wait
definitely worth the wait - i'm at level 9, i bought some enve 3.4's as soon as i could, then ended up getting the millenstein wheels on my 2nd alpe du zwift and as soon as i get to level 11 i'll have enough drops for the tarmac - millenstein + tarmac will be one of the best setups this early.
Brofessor _ how did you get up the alpe? Doesn’t that unlock at 12?
@@jasongiordano907 i'm able to take the routes that lead up to the Alpe like the "Road to Sky", "Jungle Circuite", etc. i read somewhere that you needed to be level 12, but I can get to the Alpe solo through these routes that are available to me. Not sure if that's the case for everyone. if not, maybe it has to do with being on a free trial a few weeks ago and having that access? i'm still at level 9 and have climbed it 3 times now solo.
Brofessor _ I figured it out. In light of recent events, Zwift released an update on 27 March temporarily lowering the required levels. The Jungle was level 10, now 5 and the Alpe was 12, now 6. Explains it. Being in lvl 8, I can go up it to, or at least try! Ride on!
"Blood Cack"......top quote in a top video Chris. Great watch.....nicccceeee
I'm still on the damn Zwift carbon with the stupid 32's. I'm about 7,000 XP from having a high enough level to get what I want when I will snag the Allez Sprint, Zipp 808's and probably the ENVE 3.4's too. Been holding off on the Enve's on the odd chance I get the lightweights! lol
Looks like you'll be testing for all levels Chris. Looking forward to your findings. And while I sort of agree with your argument for races that all bikes should be 3 across the board, let's face it in real life there are differences between team bikes, so should zwift level the playing field, or by allowing the differences are they not in reality mimicking real life. Just a thought
Great vid pritch my sister is just getting into zwift :)
any comparison between default bike vs other bikes?
Who would have thought an aero bike makes a difference on a turbo trainer 😁
#AeroIsEverything I guess...
Si Richardson is using his Canyon Aeroad on both Zwift and it's what's on his trainer, but that is his personal bike, not a sponsor bike. He just likes riding even on the trainer with a slammed stem.
@@mrvwbug4423 It's still a sponsor bike
I know you can take the testing to the extreme , but maybe for KOM take the average gradient over the distance to give an indication of type of Climb (still doesn't allow for flat sections but gives an indication)
Does running the test on the same bike multiple times always give near enough the same time? They definitely need more info than star ratings for each bike with such time differences. Even without being a brilliant rider I want the best value for money/drps!
The reality is that there is hardly any difference at all between the worst bike and the best one. We're talking in seconds not minutes. Spend more time on Zwift and get in better shape. A large part of their pace algorithm comes down to watts/kg. Build your watts, lose some kg and you'll do way better than hoping a different bike or wheels is going to make much of a difference....more or less like the real world. Although I suppose in the real world the differences might be ever so slightly bigger between a entry level bike vs a mid range or a top of the range bike.
Thanks for the vid. Just bought the Cannondale.. :-) (by gut feeling..haha)
nice one! Subbed
I agree. The playing field should be level across the board.
Hi Chris, thanks for this review, perfect for us newly obsessed Zwifters :) Sorry if I missed it, what wheels did you use in this control?
John, realised when i posted the video i forgot to mention the wheels! They were enve ses 3.4!
Very informative video, thanks Chris.
Would you be able to do a similar one where you compare the top frames under level 30, for people who are passed the beginner stage of zwift but have still only been riding for less than 6 months?
Thanks Finlay!! Ye new tests coming soon!!
@@chrispritch Massive fan of your vids, can't wait for your next one
Legend 🤜
Yes, I'd like to know, I'm about to get to level20, and I plan on spending my drops on a Trek Madone: good idea???
Great idea. Thanks Chris for doing these. Good info.
I'm not knocking the video....It is great to quantify the better bikes from the weaker ones....but almost nobody in this range of levels is riding 360 watts average over a 41 minute course. Also not many in this range are probably all that concerned with 20 seconds from the worst of your level 0-10 bikes to the best of your level 10-20 bikes over a 41 minute course. At my cycling level, I wouldn't be able to perceive any difference I don't think from one to the next. I am level 16 and have a long way to go to be able to purchase my own road bike on Zwift....but meanwhile I am riding the Cannondale EVO with Enve 3.4 hoops.
Irrelevant. The purpose of selecting a set power output is merely to level the field for the test. It’s not about total realism.
@@rockhopper01 The reality though is that the difference between a $3000 bike in the real world and a $13000 bike in the real world is probably those same 20 seconds over a 41 minute time trial. It is all about the style. And for some, the snob factor of having the $13000 bike.
I'd be keen to see how the challenge bikes do against these (so the Dogma F8, Spec Tarmac & the Trek Emonda). Dunno how feasible it is to complete a mission before level 10, but might be worth a look.
I was surprised at the Ribble though, quite a few of these results seem different to the Zwift Insider results, but then they do a flat TT test and a ride up the alpe, rather than a "bit of everything" test like this. Also they run theirs at 300W for a 183cm tall rider at 75kg, given height affects aero and weight is weight, wonder if the performance benefits of each bike change relative to that 🤷♂️. It would be a lot simpler if Zwift explained it all.
I kind of like the idea of having all the bikes the same for pro races & sponsored championships (e.g. the British one) as that doesn't disadvantage new riders who haven't put the miles in to get the Spec Venge S-Works & Disc wheels, or the Tron bike. Either that or unifying the star ratings so riders can choose a climbing bike or an aero bike from their sponsored options, probably worth doing the same with wheels too.
Never quite understood unlocking these bikes at such a low level, you will be well over level 10 before you have enough drops for most of them. They really should either lower the drop prices on the bikes that unlock at lower levels, or increase the rate at which you collect drops. I'm currently at lvl 7 and am maybe 1 ride from having the drops for the ENVE SES 3.4 wheels, definitely not even close to a bike which costs 400k drops. I was considering not buying a bike until lvl 11 and getting the Tarmac Pro, though that Cannondale evo is cheap enough to be affordable to someone at level, and maybe have enough drops to get the ENVE wheels too, which should be a great climbing combo. Especially for my setup which is running a hardtail MTB on my wahoo, my top end is non-existent, I'm spinning my top gear on flats.
Level 3
Please test the Allez Sprint against the Zwift Aero bike. Both have same ratings, but curious about the Allez climbing.
You da man,
R.
if it's anything like real life the Allez Sprint wails on most bikes. I have an Allez Sprint and a Madone SLR rim IRL. They are incredibly close. The Madone edges the Allez Sprint out on comfort but only on the most shite roads. Other than that, not a lot in it.
Might explain why the Allez Sprint is so popular with crit racers.
@@TheBassallyear100 I know all about the Allez Sprint's performance IRL, just curious about how Zwift interprets that in the game.
@@rolandfletcher4044 that's probably a million drop question! Zipp 454 and 858 are so so IRL but are the dogs bollocks in Zwift. Probably manufacturer dollars doing a bit of influencing...
@@TheBassallyear100 I guess we'll see what the test says.
I’m level 12 and just unlocked the tarmac pro for 400k drops, that’s the best budget bike imo
Cjthew 91 The Tarmac is the best climber, but not a great all rounder.
I would recommend to wait until level 14 and buy the Specialized Allez Aero, witch is a decent all rounder for only 140K
@@joanetmontserrat702 yup...i'm at level 12. i bought the enve 3.4's as quick as i could, then the tarmac pro, next up are the zipp 808 at level 13, then the allez aero at level 14. those are relatively cheap buys under level 15. i also got lucky and have the milenstein wheels - paired with the tarmac pro, it's hard to beat. the next purchase from there will a tt bike, probably the cervelo p5.
I will go for the Cannondale Evo. Maybe 1 more week I will hit level 9 and have enough drops for the SES3.4 and the Evo. I collect drops slowly so by the time I can collect another 319,000 drops I will probably be at L14 and can get the Allez Sprint and some 808 wheels (instead of only buying the Zwift Aero) and probably have a better bike.
well hang fire cos I'm currently testing the allez sprint as we speak!! :D
awesome. I think this figure8 is a great all-round route for your testing and then you can just add bike/wheel combos to it. Another head2head idea could be best bang-for-drop (say your first 400,000 drops) zwift-aero+std carbon wheels vs Evo+SES3.4 vs Allez Sprint +808 vs...
skip the 3.4's and try your luck up Alpe de Zwift, i got the milensteins on my 2nd climb and regretted just buying the enve's.
If you replicate the tests on each bike using your demo rider are the results the same? Another question, how does the emonda that opened up for me soon after I joined zwift stack up? I own this bike in real life so would be nice if it was good!
Nice video . Thank's a lot. What was the resistance level to test bike capacities ? Setting resistance high could possibly increase gaps.
I don't think resistance effects power.
I picked the damn Ribble (over the Evo) when I got to 10 and had enough drops. Star rating bullshit. Miffed. Need this kind of analysis for wheels before I screw up again!
James Davis The difference is 0.1%, based on a single trial with no evidence of repeatability. Even if that 0.1% is real, it gets completely lost in the noise of your own variability from day to day. Honestly, the take-home from this video is that all these bikes are the same.
What about the new race categories on Zwift ?......... according to Zwift Power they're been introduced from 1st May. Looks like an average of 1 min, 5 min & 20 min w/kg.
With an unrealistic power to weight and the rider small for your testing your results will always be bias to aero, even when climbing. You should test them again for a more typically rider and at a realistic power for an hour ride 2.5 to 3w/kg maybe.
that'll make mean I can't compare data to older tests.... if I test them at 85kg and 180cm the results will be the same... only slower...right?
I’m level 8 and I’ve only got 200,000 drops which I “dropped” on the 191,000 EVE wheels.
I'm lvl 7 and am about to do the same thing. By the time you have 350k drops you're already way over level 10 and have a much bigger selection of bikes.
mrvwbug44 I thought getting the good wheels early would make things a bit easier. Looking forward to getting other bikes though
Hi Chris, great video, could you pls. do a similar one with the bikes available at higher levels. I ride an Ultimate in real and virtual life and am at the point now and anxious to unlock the Canyon AEROAD, but that may not be the best choice out there. Thanks, Cheers, Eckhard
Will do!! Thanks for watching!!
Cam changed his idea? 😳
In the rankings the specialized Allez sprint is pretty good. It’s cheap and is unlocked at level 12.
14. I'm impatiently getting there!
Nicholas Hulme oh sorry I think I got it mixed up with something else.
@@ambat_ no worries! I've been hawking that thing down for two weeks. Just under level 13 now so will be snagging the 808's probably tomorrow.
So which one is actually the best overall climbing bike, the Cannondale Evo or the Tarmac Pro?
tarmac
Great content!! MORE!!! MOOORE!!! (Star Wars meme)
Chris, Factor One and Noah Fast have just dropped. Do you plan on reviewing these bikes to see how they stack up at this level?
yes! I'll add it on to the video this weekend!!
how do you keep it on 360w?
On the zwift Richmond race yesterday ribble where at the back for the majority of the race. Completely hamstrung.
And you wonder why!!!?
@@chrispritch impressive the results one @Cameron Jeffers is putting up in the face of that. Perhaps his performance was more special than a certain bike used... (especially since other riders were using verifiably faster bikes in the event)
Hello Chris, for you the tarmac pro is better than the zwift Aero bike at the lap ?
do you have to buy drps with real money or do you get them through in game objectives
No you get drops by riding the mud effort you put in the more drops you get!
could you do one under level 20?
Zwift aero with enve wheels
Guilty as charged of wasting drops on a Ridley because I wanted my in game bike to match what I was riding on the trainer
😂 No shame in it!
Would you consider doing same video for wheels at some point in the future?
For you Tom... Anything!
@@chrispritch perfect thank you. I'll go stand in the shopping queue to get my popcorn ready for this.
I'm very new to zwift, so this question might seem a little stupid but, is there really much point in worrying about bikes/wheels when it will only cost you a handful of seconds every hour?
Josh A yes you’ll soon find out racing on Zwift isn’t easy. Taking advantage of a few seconds for the same power can be the difference between winning and loosing. 👍🏽
If you buy a bike do you get a trade in price (drops) to purchase a more expensive bike later? Do they have trade in value?
yes it's just like real life. if it cost a million drops you will about 7...
Hi Chris, nice video
just a question, how can you stand the watts constantly equally on all bikes to make this test?
We have software that helps us maintain watts at a constant!
Chris Pritchard Cycling News ok, thanks for your reply, #rideon !
Hello Chris
Level 5-10 wheels please
The canyon is twice the price now
would love to get your thoughts as to why pro cyclists aren't just winning every race? does the fact that it is Zwift really make such a big difference? Dowsett came in 63rd today which just doesnt add up!
weight doping??
one hes at altitude ad two he is being honest with his weight,hope we eventually get this sorted as its making racing stupid.
another one is that a lot of pro`s have not yet figured out fully the gaming aspect of zwift and how max this out. pro zwifters do
Today I cycled having an avg of 300 watts over 25km (I am level 4) I got beaten by my friend who averaged 270 watts (level 10), how does it work?
Weight ?
The ultimate is 461,500 drops Pritch! It’s the inflite that’s 234,300
Shit....... Close enough!!
Chris Pritchard Cycling News great video by the way.. helped me choose my next purchase 👍🏻
oi, oi, oi!! how'd you get that paint job on the Zwift aero frame?!?! oh and, what does, "cack" mean!?
Cack - crap, shite, wank, toss, sh1t. take your pick!
128wotts, ego mode on max .
Surely having pros compete on their team sponsor bikes, even though they may be inferior to other teams’ machines is the same as real world racing. At least the unsponsored masses get to take their pick. I am surprised that the bike manufacturers allow their new bikes to be added to zwift with substandard stats though. Doesn’t seem like good marketing for them...
I think it won't matter much if the Pro/Am races continue for awhile, the pros will learn the tricks for Zwift racing and then their sheer fitness and conditioning will get used to full effect in Zwift. A lot of these pros have never ridden Zwift before, so don't know all the ins and outs of Zwift yet, I've yet to see a pro lose a race in Zwift by simply getting out performed on fitness, it's always been a case of unfamiliarity with how Zwift racing works.
I’ve noticed zero difference between bikes
So you actually have to pay money cash money for these damn bikes🙍🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️
If you get paid in drops in real life then yes
No? It’s drops lol you get the for doing workouts in the game then spend those for frames and wheels. No money is actually spent
Sponsored riders???? Wtf? Its a video game . And a great workout? Wow. I am old and out of it.
As in teams and riders who ride professionally on the road and use zwift....
Chris Pritchard Cycling News I totally get what u are saying now. Great vid. Its crazy how some bikes are faster. K
Dam, i bought the riblle on tuesday. I am selling it for 150 drops. Who wants? 🤣
😂 Its worthless now luis!
Have you told CAM his bike is s**t haha 😂😂😂😂
why make a 15 min vid to tell someting that can be told in a minute
Money.
@@chrispritch hahah i did watch the whole thing tho thanks for the info