This Electric Motorcycle Will Kill You
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- This Electric Motorcycle Will Kill You, DIY and car repair with auto mechanic Scotty Kilmer. Dangerous motorcycles. Why new electric motorcycles have interesting technology but can also be dangerous. Electric Zero motorcycle review. Zero vs Harley Davidson, who makes the best electric motorcycle? Motorcycle advice. DIY car repair with Scotty Kilmer, an auto mechanic for the last 51 years.
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What do you think about Alpha Romeo suvs?
Wow
Scotty Kilmer More on this subject please.....
Fire hazard...?
Deep recycle recharge....?
Battery swap out...?
Resale...?
Scotty could I please get your opinion on 86 dodge 50… 41,000 miles on it they’re asking 2800
LOL !! Nortons ! Hard to ride when everything is in reverse. Neighbor had one when I was way younger in the 70's ....Nearly killed myself .😎🤩
Just put some cards in the spokes it'll make noise🤣...
Lol
I wonder if that would actually make any noticable noise on the road or if the cards would just break
or a popsicle stick
What it needs more cow bell.
Ah wish I was 9 again
"loud pipes save lives" says the biker right before he goes zig-zagging through traffic at twice the speed limit.
I see very little of that from those guys. I do see it all the time on guys with crotch rockets.
Traffic is a car/truck problem, no reason to sit in it. Also, the debate on lpsl is entirely unprovable for or against, had loud pipes on my last bike, still had someone pull out in front of me totaling my bike & throwing me 30 ft down the road.
Ignorant cagers always seem to think they own the road and bikes are invisible.
I remember when NO FEAR stickers were popular, saw one on the back of a bike fender stuck under a truck once and thought yeah I but their was some fear...
@@Zag328 If loud pipes actually saved lives, it would be provable. The fact that it isnt provable shows that loud pipes dont save lives.
If you were really that concerned about your safety, you wouldnt be on a motorcycle in the first place. Loud pipes only do one thing... make you feel like a big man when you yank the throttle.
@@nottiification unless you are all knowing and can show/prove that a motorist will not notice a motorcyclist regardless of the volume of their exhaust then you are vehemently incorrect.
Aside from my prior example, I also have had instances where I was about to be merged into and revved my engine to alert them to the fact that I was there, and could you guess what happened????? They stopped pulling into my lane.
Yet another example of an ignorant cager. Not entirely sure why you think that I should be denied a freedom because y'all can't use the cluster of cells between your ears.
I recognize the inherent dangers of not having a security cage around me, however I struggle to see how using any measures to increase my safety, be it audibly or visually, is any concern of yours.
I have sensory issues so I prefer quiet. I haven’t really cared for motorcycles for that reason alone, but you had me at fast, quiet, instant torque, and 100% of its power
It's for James Bond and Black Ops guys really...Jeezus if the the military/CIA/FBI/MI-5/her majesty's secret service aren't using these already they're stupid af.
also when he mentioned...may kill you...I going all in.
@@pex_the_unalivedrunk6785 The special forces uses them.
Scotty, you should make more videos like this! I like your regular videos, but it is very refreshing when you filming something outside of your garage or a house.
He should film at the strip club
MrChet407 I don't think Scotty's ever been to one! His wife would kill him! Besides.. His cat will tell on him🐈🐈🐈😂😂😂😹😹
@@MrChet407 He would go but he is too cheap hahaha
As long as he brings the
CAT
Noise doesn’t prevent accidents.
SCOTTY: This electric motorcycle will kill you.
ME: That's the one I want!
will poke your eye out first though...
😂😂😂
You genuinely look excited like kid in a candy store. Thank you for this wholesome content ❤️
I've been driving electric motorcycles in various forms for almost 13 years now. My biggest problem has been pedestrians not noticing me - so i keep loose tools in my rear box. Still i have to be very, very careful in traffic. You're right. Drivers don't notice me.
imagine they have horns??
Well there's music blue tooth box
You can use a bell, works for bicycles
dsteele27 do you hit them with the tools 🛠? 🤷🏼♂️
I have a loud motorcycle but I still use the horn unnecessarily a lot just to let people know I'm around
I believe and I could be wrong this is the first video with Scott he never mentioned Toyota
Neat vid, Scotty! I just got a Zero FXS last month and have put a few hundred miles on it. I was driving a 12mpg SUV so I’m literally able to pay for the bike with my gas savings. Welcome to the future
How do you like it a year later? How is it in daily situations?
Seems like he couldn't say much bad things about the bike since he was in their store lol🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Why do you have a turd for your image?
well, there's not much bad about them except for the price and he did discuss the short range. But really, 110 miles on a crotch rocket? That's enough for me lol
He mentions not a long range, no sound and nothing to modify. But to be honest they’re the only downsides I can think of
@@thomasmason8481 and to me, those aren't necessarily downsides. They are like electric cars: great for the city and bombing around town but not that good for touring or long distance. I drive my pickup maybe 40 kms a week and then it's only around town which is 15 minutes from one end to the other so an EV would be perfect for me.
A friend of mine needs a new vehicle and I told her to get an EV because she only drives 5 kms one way to work. She'd only have to charge it once a month.
@@chevyboss97 Chevy is an endless money pit!!!! 🤣🤣🤣
Unless it's a 94 celica
Scotty I thought you were going to give one away for leaving a clean non offensive comment.
Edgar Cano Yeah... Sure!
Scotty is way too cheap for that
he did, I won,
A Team your going to have to pay the taxes on it... About $4,000! But of course Scotty wouldn't give you ice in winter!😂😂😂😂
You don't become a millionaire giving away money.
I have a 95 GSX-R 600 Suzuki with a Vance and Hines exhaust it’s loud, I’ve had people look right at me and then pull out in front of me. If you’re riding a bike does not matter if people can hear you or not you’re taking a risk everytime you get on a bike!!!
L2D Destiny Clan I’m actually in a hospital right now with a shattered leg because some dumb lady turned into me while I was riding my motorcycle, it has one of the loudest most annoying exhausts ever but that didn’t prevent the accident, at the end of the day people are still idiots and will hurt you because they’re ignorant and have no regards for the lives of others
@@thatguy1919 Damn bro sorry to hear that. Thanks for sharing your experience. Hopefully it will help others be more aware. Since you have extra time on your hands you can watch more of Scotty's videos with the rest of us cool people :-). Good luck on your recovery.
Jay Ryan thanks I appreciate it, and yeah I’ve had a lot of extra time since then so that’s all been doing😅
32 years of riding and been hit once and laid bike down once to avoid being hit. Both times the cage drivers
Said they didn’t see me. For Gods sake man I’m 6 ft tall on a Bright Red Harley Dresser with the lights on and you cant see me?
L2D, Been riding for 40 years and I've had some close ones BUT .... I just assume NOBODY can see me and they're all idiots anyway who actually do want to kill me. AS someone else mentioned, I've had people look RIGHT AT ME and pull out anyway. I tell everybody..."you want to learn defensive driving techniques?" Ride a motorcycle and try not to die.
I notice that the motor spindle is in line with the swing arm pivot, that means the drive belt tension is constant during suspension movement. Smmoth transmission and long drive belt life. Awesome!
I rode one of Zero bikes recently, the lack of sound and not shifting takes some
getting use too. But it’s a was blast to ride!
srdorsey auctioneering did you take it on the highway?
@The Catmother Obviously you dont ride or own a bike. No wonder you're a crazy cat lady. You really think that loud bikes don't save lives? Maybe you should get your hearing checked and make better choices about where you purchase/rent your next residence. If hearing vehicles & motorcycles, when you are trying to sleep, bothers you or your cat children then chances are you need to move to a more reclusive rural area or sleep with hearing aids in. No normal person would expect the world to conform to them but instead would try to reform their own life around the world in a way that pleases them.
@@GreatValueJohnnySins
Damn dude calm down haha jeez
I've rode a Zero as well and I liked it but I'm waiting for the Tesla of motorcycles, the Harley-Davidson Livewire.
@@GreatValueJohnnySins :Something to think about, I've seen drivers
totally oblivious to emergency vehicles with lights & sirens
blasting.
"Twist and go!" ... how I like my women 🙄🙄
Men
@@jimfocus3128 lol
Sounds painful.
I like my bikes like I like my women 20 years old and with alot of problems
😂🤣😂🍻
I had no clue they even made electric bikes, learn something new every day
They have raced a few types (and have a new class for electrics) at Isle of Man TT.
Anyone remember the movie "Tron"??
Like from 1981, I think...
I have been dreaming of getting a Zero for a couple of years now. I'm just working on saving up the money. 😁🤙
Check out the Zev electric bikes faster longer range and cost less
This is only the second time I've seen Scotty away from his driveway, and the first time he's done a complete video off site. Bravo!
Once They Get Affordable... I'M Getting super motor
Get it used. Electric vehicles depreciate faster then you can say, "Rev up your engines!"
I’ve always liked to have a clutch and gears on my motorcycles. But, I guess, one day automatic self driving motorcycles will be everywhere. Boring...
@@ytr8989 these things are very good apparently. I know going through the gears is fun but that doesn't mean you really need them to have fun. What is kind of sad is that unlike a car you don't sit in traffic so having a manual on your bike doesn't really have any downsides.
Mate supermotor won't be affordable because fun things cost a lot of money
$20,000 brand new. $10,000 one year later $5,000 two years later. 🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️
The rear view mirror can see a car. The noise issue is as it approaches. Modern cars are quiet too.
So its 50/50
Agree. Everyone fogets about the doppler effect. Vehicles are quietest when approaching.
Yeah that machine is pretty mental but for half that I could get a litre bike
if the immediate price is the only reason that is stopping you. you forgot about maintenance and gas prices. but personally i won't get them because they're a bit life less no noise nothing to modify and no clutch or gear to change
@@YA-ee9zf nah i'm not knocking it im just say you could get a lot more bike a full leather suit and a track day for that and still have a few bucks left over. The tech is really cool and it will eventually be the norm. Much like the Teslas, reviewers say the instant torque is unreal and super fun. Throwing my leg over a few bikes i can say all out top speed in very fun, going in full tuck digging for every last drop of power but you don't have to work as hard for torque
@@mj-nc2iz You would have a hard time selling one if you were to ever try.
For someone that truly wants one of these, price has nothing to do with it.
Loud pipes can help depending on the situation but it doesn’t compare to being SEEN. I switched out my exhaust on my R1200GS and it was louder but as soon as I added some aux fog lights, things changed. Now when I lane split down the freeway, it’s like I’m parting the Red Sea. Being more visible is where it’s at so spend the money on lighting instead. Now, if you just want your bike to sound better...I can’t argue with that :)
Would have loved to see some video of it in action, preferably with you in the saddle.
RichE San Diego
I think he's afraid to drive it....
I doubt that.
My mum always threatens to kill me. What's yer point?
Triumph, Norton and BSA the good ol days.
Nah triumph is made by BMW triumph helped build the z3 and z3 m coupe plus the OG z4
Running from the cops at night is what that is made for
David Kotyk the fastest it can go is 110 you need something faster
The range is the deal breaker for me, that and the lack of it making blissful noise, sweet smells, and fast refills (recharges).
To me its noise, motorcycle really need them for safety.
was waiting for scotty to drive that thing. disappointed -.-
Same!!!
@Vic Val wtf are you talking about? he disappointed because kilmer didnt ride it. not for the bike.
Yes I would like to modified my Zero , with power outlets for camping or local grid power outages .
martin martin cool
Rev up your silver June 1994 Toyota Celica Sport that still runs like a clock with 240,000 miles!
I have a very rusty beatup 84 camry with 785000mi and it still runs good
@@greasypetes No way! Nice!!
As an avid motorcycle rider since I was 8 years old, AND a mechanic of gas powered engines and Tesla’s, I will say creative minds create new inventions.
You have to respect the technology. It’s way cool. 👍
Me: gets in car
Scotty: DONT
Ok, that's not old yet? It should be.
Unless it's a Toyota 😂👍
Rev up your electric motorcycle
Ah nevermind.
You can try to rev but you will loop it.
I see what you did there. :-)
vrooooom
You know, I never realised that. Lol!
Remember how much the firsts flat TVs used to cost?
I sure do. I bought a 60 inch Sony rear projection at BestBuy and they had the first flatscreen for all to see. Rectangular and about a 19 inch screen........$9995!
Any one remember price of 1st microwave
That happened because then ultimately, more and more people bought them eventually and the price went down. The tech was finally in others' hands or 'reach' and competition was finally a thing between different makers.
There is however a big difference between rate of uptake by all stakeholders in the transportation sector compared to that in the entertainment.
Please do not gloss over THIS and other realities of life. Heck even the very niche of bikes is a problem.
However, trust countries like China to take this same tech and do wonders with it.
Am in Africa and there is something I always see American companies do wrong. That is pricing. I do not know if it is because of the high costs of doing business there or just pride. But it will cost them big time.
See China concentrates on the single most efficient ways of making profit. Truth is stranger than fiction. SELLING. How many have you sold? How many units. Japan does this as well. Toyota sells not because it is the best tech company the world could ever see but simply because they have mastered the art of doing what they do best and doing it right. You do not overprice a commodity for too long or else a competitor will come and take over what was yours in the first place!
I could go on and on! Some companies are learning this the hard way though. Intel is being taught something by AMD. Nvidia is trying to fight but the odds are against them. Pricing and SELLING! Oh yes, a company may be a market leader now. BUT will that entity stay there at the top? It is the very damned reason why Huawei will be a thorny issue for most other seemingly mammoth entities who apparently should 'not worry'
This bike may be a source of pride for many. But if that price stays where it is at, well, we shall see.. Last I checked, adoration doesn't always make for great sales. That wallet power is not to be messed with. Study the wallet of your prospective buyer. Then SELL it like hot cakes.
Elon's Tesla knows this. That is the reason there was a model 3.
@@michaelc9128---> Approx 1000$
@@ValentineL806 could not agree with your more 20,000 dollars is gonna buy many many years of gasoline and mileage....EV are for the rich...they are not saving your wallet
I'm the original owner of a 1979 HD FXEF/80, and I'm one of those guys that likes to tinker on their bikes. I also have a 2006 HD FXDI 88 (now a 95ci), and am glad I DON'T have to tinker on that one! I've watched an example of the new electric HD. I can see myself owning one. The artificial bike sound on it doesn't sound like a "bike", but like a screaming-meemie....I like it. Thanks for the great review of the Zero!
Rev up your engines! Increase your amperage!
Was waiting for that one😂
According to some of the channels I have watched about electric motorcycles, the increase in voltage makes them faster….
This looks great. Probably the most dangerous way of getting around since not only do you have the same lack of protection if you do crash, but in addition since you're silent you're a lot more likely to get hit.
Love the motorcycle review scotty,you should do one on the 300+hp kawasaki Ninja H2R.
Do it with Dan proved not only does it go much faster than 210mph, but the braking is unmatched and doves love them and will come along for the ride.
I was waiting for him to say "I'm giving away one of these electric bikes, just post a clean non offencive comment below"
I've been driving bikes for 50 years and prefer quiet ones. The last 20 have been sidecar rigs. No problems with being seen, at least not any more than in my car.
When a car makes a lot of noise with aftermarket exhausts, scotty is like nah that's not cool. But a bike with a loud exhaust that's right up his alley apparently lol
Scotty Judas Kilmer. Straight to the gulag!!
I have a 2017 Zero DSR and love it. It instant power delivery is extremely invigorating. It's nice to twist the throttle at 45 or 50 and be at 80 in about 1.5 seconds, leaving that tailgater far behind. Even with my 275 pounds on top of it, it gets from 0 to 60 in just over 3 seconds. The only down sides are the limited range and the charging time, but I knew that going in.
Do a search on TH-cam for Zero Motorcycle review. You will find that they are overwhelmingly positive.
@Dio Black,
I've had mine to 110 MPH. How much faster do you need to go?
Zero has it's advantages limitations and purpose. I ride a nice quiet BMW and love it. You can't count on other drivers seeing or hearing you anyway.
chas sisom I was thinking the same thing, my 62 BMW is so quite no body in a car could ever hear it but I rely on smart riding and not taking stupid chances... like lane splitting or the likes of that
That's such a stupid comment. Its still more dangerous than a normal motorcycle.
Daniel S I missed you on that, what’s stupid?
@@sandyt4343 To say you cant count on drivers hearing you anyway. Of course you cant count on them, but being silent is still more dangerous, especially in the city, where drivers do expect to hear passing motorcycles.
I know a guy who almost reversed into a ZERO because he didnt hear him.
Daniel S ok so you don’t agree, that’s not a big deal to me , no need to agree on everything, but what gets me is how the internet has got to the point where people say stuff like “your stupid because you don’t agree with me “ where they wouldn’t talk like that face to face. Oh yeah there’s some people that are just jerks and that’s the only way they can get a point across, but I don’t think I run into very many like that. I know a guy who is always threatening people on the phone when he is talking to customer service people. Makes him feel like a big dude. That’s what kills me because if he did that in person he’d just have them laugh in his face.
When they talk about adding speakers so it makes noise that reminds me of the one South Park episode
I want! Only mod I'd make would be a Stebel electric air horn! Then they'd hear you, for sure.
I live in Hawaii and its not that big, the electric bike would be perfect where i live
I don't understand why would anyone dislike this video. Scotty is only reporting the fax.
Take it on a test drive!!
Yeah, I wanted to see Scotty take it for a rip.
You kidding me, he probably bought it lol..
@@cabbynate No, it's not a Toyota.
@@InsideOfMyOwnMind true!!
The bike you reviewed (SR/F) actually has a top speed of 124mph and can go further than stated with the PowerTank option.
That said, other electric motorcycle brands can charge much faster, go further, have more torque and can keep going to 150.. 200.. up to 218mph with sub-3 second acceleration. They can also complete the quarter mile in the 10’s and make much more sound than the near silent Zero.
I live in Hawaii and its not that big, i would love to get this
I am from America. Could you please tell me which country Hawaii is in?
@@timsmith854 u trolling right? 1 full battery on this can ride around the island like 5 times to 6 times possible even more. This thing would be a perfect gas saver for me.
@@MS-ql8ek Yeah I was. On a serious note, that sort of bike sounds perfect for your living conditions. Hawaii has some steep hills as far as I know. I wonder how that would effect the battery life?
@@timsmith854 i live on Oahu and there aren't too many like on maui and the big island. It does rain at random times and i wonder how it effects the bike
@@timsmith854 Regen recharges the bike on the way down ^-^
You can modify it by changing the "gear ratio" diff sprockets...swap the motor or maybe a tune if that exists
Hehe there are a few mods that void the warranty.
Hello from Canada Amigo Scotty please make more videos about motorcycles as well. Keep the great job att Andres
It’s not true that the Harley electric bike will have speakers to mimic engine sound
My friend is the head engineer over at zero, they are based in scottsvalley ca. My neighbor too, they are looking to switch somethings to make the bikes sound more noticeable on the street, it's being delt with.
I have an electric bike and it's similar with the throttle just not as fast or as good range, but way cheaper. Plus can go on bike paths and parks to skip traffic. It has been super awesome. I like the bike as if something goes wrong or it dies I can still pedal. Only problem is actually how silent it is. People don't expect you to be going so fast and can't hear you coming. You have to be extra careful.
Just don’t wear that Freddie Mercury hat
Beelzebub has the poor soul in Hell now don't make that mistake trust Jesus to forgive you and be your Lord
I have a Zero SR....best purchase I ever made. As far as the noise issue goes....what is the best way to avoid an accident? Defensive Driving. How can you hear what's coming up behind you if you have a loud motorcycle? That takes away part of your defense. Don't EVER rely on other drivers to hear or see you...drive defensively.
Love your car vids. Can you do more motorcycle vid too
I went to a demo day at a Zero Dealership ( I have 3 bikes in my garage now so please believe that I have something to compare to) 2015 FJ09, 2016 Versys 1000 and a 2017 KTM 1290 Super Duke GT. These electric bikes are awesome. It’s definitely on my list to own one but not until the highway range is doubled. An outing with my riding buddies most of the time is 100-150 miles, and 15k-18k for something range bound to + or - 80 miles is way to extravagant for me. Highway and mountain roads as a route are the norm.
But for cool factor, handling, acceleration, and quiet these bikes are amazing. It’s an amazing experience to go 70mph on something that’s almost silent. As as far as cars not hearing you, shouldn’t we all be riding like we’re invisible, and in that case silent too. I always assume that no cars can see or hear me anyway so I’m totally engaged with seeing to my own safety.
I would highly recommend that you test drive one just as a bucket list item, it’s totally worth your time. Call a Dealership and ask when their next demo day is, you won’t be sorry!
WOW! Excellent I have owned the solar power FREE.
Daaaaa
@@donhill1825 A paid off car that costs fuel and oil for a car that doesn't cost fuel and oil?
Scotty Kilmer , I got a 94 Camry that idles very low in drive is it normal, am I harming anything. The oil light does not come on.
I'm not sure how old you are Scotty but I'm 59 and although I thought somewhat loud motorcycles were cool 20-30 years ago, I now much prefer bikes with mufflers. Unless it's a Ducati, of course! :)
one of my friends is a retired motorcycle drag racer. the Killo Cycle guys got him to drive that battery powered drag cycle. Fast.
"Can only go 110mph" LOL in all seriousness though electric is the future
Canadian Prepper, I really hope the future of electric vehicles fails miserably to the point that it’ll never be attempted again.
It can keep going even past 150+mph
@@filthyanimal874 what for ? So we never break free from gas stations ?
Hello my fellow canadian @Canadian Prepper
If my current bike ever finally dies ( 98 superhawk Ive put 115k miles on...) a zero will be at the top of my list as a replacement. Ive done enough valve clearance adjustments to get really sick of it. I hate motorcycle maintenance but I do my own for surety and cost savings. The lack of noise concerns me though. I used to get merged into way to often until I fitted my bike with glasspack exhausts.
You can just yell ''REEEE'' while passing by the cars.
It will work... Probably.
I own a 2015 Zero. For rides to and from work, or short rides around the area countryside, it's great. I absolutely love it.
Why Scottie always looking like he's got a green screen begind him before he actually touches the object.😂.love you Scottie ❤️
Hehe, thought the same first :D
I love my electric bike. I can never go back to an IC engine. It's so much fun to feel that power instantly.
E-drive is the best. from motorcycles, bicycles, skateboard, lawn mower...
I only clicked here because I thought there was something wrong with electric motorcycles
It's been a 50-year love/hate relationship with internal combustion engines and me. When E-vehicles get the range increased and required charge time & logistics decreased and simplified I'm there.
Ya know ?...been thinkin serious bout gettin me one of them
Thanx for the most informative information on the interweb !
no really . I mean it
Rkk O'Tilley hey you got the bucks... Go for it!
Test ride one. You will definitely buy one
Ive been riding for many many years, had all kinds of bikes, but never had an electric bike...They are really coming into their own now with tech and batteries getting so much better. Getting close to the time for a electric sport bike. I wish I could convert my 99 R1 into electric, I hate the carbs. Went to the Tail of the dragon and I have almost no power up in the high mountains around there. Thanks Scotty!
That would be badass here, you really never need to go over 65.
jagsfanrick try driving 65 here in Texas, even the little old ladies will run you over.
No one ever said, "I never heard him." It's always, "I never saw him."
$20,000 for a bike with a 160 mile range, and a four hour recharge time if you buy an additional charging system.
Ok, well, I ride a Honda Silverwing. If I am on the freeway just keeping up with traffic 75-80 mph, no showboating just cruising along, I will have a range of around 180 miles.
Now let's tip the scales a bit and say I have over loaded my Silverwing for a long trip (I do it all the time), and now I am only getting 135- 150 miles range. Clearly the Zero has the advantage, or does it.
Let's further say the charging system is small enough to carry on the e-bike, and let's tip the fictional scales even more by saying that all gas stations have fast charging stations, or electric ports, for bikes and cars.
Both bikes take off for the same destination, Eureka Springs Arkansas from southeastern Michigan, at the same time along the same route, and the police have stopped giving motorcycles speeding tickets. Man everything is looking good for the e-bike.
I will have to stop in about two hours to refuel, relieve myself, and maybe get something to eat and drink. So now my fuel stop has turned into lunch. So now my stop is an hour long.
The e-bike has been there for an hour already (keeping the speed demon mentality) when I arrive and is charging up. So after lunch the e-bike is still charging, and will be for another two hours. At which time, I will be stopping for my second fuel stop, and all the necessary things one does after an hour long lunch two hours ago. Let's further say biological functions may be hampered by the extra cheese on the pizza two hours ago (hey, I am trying to shift the scales in favor of the e-bike), but half an hour after stopping, I am on the road again. Half an hour later the e-bike comes rolling in for a recharge, another 4 hours.
In the meantime time, I am almost four hundred miles further down range, on an over loaded maxi-scooter getting lousy mileage, with an overactive bladder, and a self induced kink in my colon because of lots of extra cheese on a pizza.
Now when the e-bike is done charging for the fourth time, my trip from southeastern Michigan to Eureka Springs Arkansas is already over for an hour already. The e-bike still has another 20 hours to complete the same route.
Now I have tried to tip the scales as mush as possible and give the Zero e-bike as many advantages as possible, but the technology simply has not advanced very far for electric bike in the past ten years. The only thing that has improved is the public relations campaigns.
This is what the electric bike industry is up against. They have to get there range up, with real world speeds, the recharge time down, and eliminate the battery electrochemical memory.
A quick battery swap system like they are doing in Thailand would help, but it's easy to see how such a system would fail if a number of batteries were not rechargeable any longer.
Now let's go drop a bomb. The internal combustion scooter over loaded, only cost a little less than half the price of the e-bike alone, not including the fast charge system. The technology is not there yet.
"Let's further say the charging system is small enough to carry" WTF you have no clue what you are talking about. The charging system is NOT Removable and built into the bike. All you basically need is an extension cable.
My 1988 FLSTCL has the ordinal belt on it, never adjusted and I ride like I stole it!
With a catchy name like FLSTCL, it MUST be a Harley.....
62shalaka fl means touring, st is for soft tail, cl means classic ( windshield & bags).
Love to have one. No maintenance and electric is cheap if charged at night when rates drop. Installing a speaker with motorcycle noise sounds good to me when you need to be heard.
sorry, but i'll keep my real motorcycle. if i get the yen for electric i'll use one of those nifty little shopping carts at walmart until the fever breaks
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The noise factor is so overrated. I had a Suzuki SV650S followed by a BMW F800S and drive a Zero since February this year. This is the most fun bike I ever drove, and I have not seen any other reaction than before with my bike making no noise. So "Loud noise just annoys" for me, I like cruising while listening to the radio, silent, non polluting, no smell, no shakes, no heat... Perfect!
I want an electric dual-sport so i can go through fields and people will be none-the-wiser
1Lifeonearth you should check their website for their off-road stuff
Many Police Departments are utilizing Zero Motorcycles. No noise equals stealth pursuit & quick apprehension in addition to electrics other advantages. I imagine a dual sport electric motorcycle would make a perfect "toad" backup vehicle on a motorhome's rear receiver hitch. Matter of fact, there are so many advantages to a small, lightweight Suzuki Samurai 4x4 type Electric vehicle being towed by a Motorhome, I can see it taking over the market if a U.S. company has vision. A Motorhome with a 1Kilowatt + Solar array up on the roof could repower a Zero Motorcycle or my Electric Samurai type electric for weekly restocking when boondocking. Convenience, a redundant vehicle in case of Motorhome breakdown, will trump the "Tinker" factor everytime, imo, and I'm a gearhead.
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I had one of those zero motorcycles and while they were fun I always worry about people not been aware of me riding next to them, super scary!.. also if you buy one please make sure you plug the charger to an independent electrical breaker circuit properly install by an electrician, I saw one of these on the news catching fire in the garage burning the whole house down!
It's no Kawasaki KX 500! My friend had a KX 500. I sure miss him lol.
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Gear shift is on the other side, Scotty. Front and rear brakes are linked/ no rear brake pedal. There isn’t an aftermarket to mess around with....yet. I hope that isn’t looked at too closely, as regulators tend to ruin things even if they don’t pollute.
I've heard claims of "long life" by rechargeable battery manufacturers, and salespeople for thirty years, through generations of new battery technology. They were ALL prairie fertilizer.
Apparently you have no experience with any flavor of lithium batteries...
You know that Zeros are doing fine? Mine is six years old and its range is within tolerance of original.
Put a couple big speakers with good bass response on there and blast something thumpy while riding for conspicuity. Of course, that will reduce the already limited range. I prefer my 1300 cc V Twin that tops out near 140 and goes 50 miles on every gallon of gas I put in the tank. And the lovely noise that comes out of the Vance & Hines ensures that the car beside me knows I'm there.
Perfect crime vehicle make no sound and hide easy
You can make a getaway, and quick, but not with much
@@dragonkidd91 didn't you listen... You CAN Set It up to go as fast as you want.. 0-150 instantly might be a bit much.
Take it from someone who has ridden a 2013 zero ds 35000 miles I don't miss the noise at all (also own a shadow 1100 with cobra drag pipes) I get cut off way more on my cruiser than on my electric. No maintenance. Fast as hell. The new srf is absolutely Insane. Got to put about 50 miles on one and it's amazing!
Noise is much needed on a motorcycle, before this my bike had stock exhaust cars almost ran me over lots of time, I change my muffler to make noise now cars slow down when I'm close noise do work.
Most motorcycle-car accidents are from cars turning left into the path of a motorcycle that has the right of way. The car driver almost always says "I didn't see him" even though he was looking straight at the bike when he pulled out into his path.
Bikes are narrow and have a single headlight. This causes the bike to get lost in the background. More lateral lighting helps. Research "SMIDSY".
Scotty I have a feeling that we're going to find a new generation of modifications and tuners
@1misanthropist exactly what I was thinking
Great video, times are changing fast! I like to tinker with petrol bikes but I also want an electric bike, prices are coming down, yay!!
Scotty...I bet that Harley Electric will be $30,000.
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It's exceedingly rare you hear a motorcycle (or car) coming anyway.
Electric Motorcycles will put aftermarket exhaust system makers out of business!
This fallacy that quiet motorcycles will get you killed is ridiculous. Lets face it, drivers simply don't care about motorcyclist regardless if your running straight pipes on a Harley or a quiet EV moto.
Geez, if I was dropping $20,000 on a bike I'm get the Aprilia RSV4, jesus those things sound sweet.
I'd never own an electric bike because the sound is half the fun especially a Ducati or Aprilia
@@BloodEagle. , exactly!