Compare: Eureka Atom & Ceado E37J Coffee Grinders

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  • @daveshear
    @daveshear 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I have the Ceado E37J. I recently came from an older Mazzer Super Jolly grinder. The Ceado is a good bit quieter compared to the Mazzer Super Jolly. In fact, there is no comparison. I have that teamed up with the Profitec Pro 500 which I bought from Whole Latte Love. What a great combo! If you're looking for great support, technical advice and super prices: Whole Latte Love Is The Place to go for all your coffee needs.

    • @Wholelattelovepage
      @Wholelattelovepage  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi David, Thanks for the comment and sharing your opinions on the J and Pro 500!

    • @lphna
      @lphna 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @David S Hey David! Would you prefer Ceado over Super Jolly?

  • @davew.7236
    @davew.7236 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This video sold me on the Ceado and I absolutely love the E37J. No question, they are both good grinders and I know I would have also been happy with the Atom as well. It was a hard choice, and the video comparison helped a lot, along with the E37S/E37J comparison. Thanks Marc, great videos!

    • @Wholelattelovepage
      @Wholelattelovepage  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Dave, Sorry for the delayed response. Just back from Italy visiting a bunch of factories including Ceado! Tough decisions I know. Glad to hear the videos helped and you are loving the E37J!
      Marc

  • @humstrumbangtwang
    @humstrumbangtwang 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The best reviews on the internet. Thanks.

    • @Wholelattelovepage
      @Wholelattelovepage  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi hum..., You are welcome and thank you for the comment!

  • @mazglad
    @mazglad 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So I'm thinking about pairing my ECM Classika PID with the lovely Ceado grinder.
    When dialing in do you have do adjust the burrs without the lever as shown "from the inside" or is it already in the range you would need....since the grind size lever can't be turned around continuosly?

    • @Wholelattelovepage
      @Wholelattelovepage  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi M, The E37J grinder should come already set in the espresso grinding range.
      Marc

  • @MrArdytube
    @MrArdytube 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Marc. I like the side by side comparisons because it really brings out the differences. I also like when Marc expresses a preference (as with grinder sound)... no matter how slight, and how subjective.

    • @Wholelattelovepage
      @Wholelattelovepage  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Ardy, I try to include my preferences while remaining objective.
      M

  • @SpressoMan
    @SpressoMan 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Outstanding video, Marc: wonderfully helpful!
    I opted for the E37J to go with my Brewtus IV-R. The Ceado's a beast. It's rocks espresso SO hard! A knob is convenient; but the added weight on the Ceado makes the lever function very well.
    Once a flawless grind is guaranteed (at this level, neither grinder would disappoint) the lower, less-annoying sound of the Ceado sealed the deal. I'm really glad that I stepped from my original thought of E5P/E6P. The only other intriguing grind at this point is the E37K. Conicals are nice.

    • @Wholelattelovepage
      @Wholelattelovepage  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      James Clausen Thanks for the comment and sharing your opinion of the J! I appreciate it and I’m sure other doing grinder research will too

    • @engalvan
      @engalvan 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’m so glad I got the atom. Eureka is a better company than ceado

    • @Wholelattelovepage
      @Wholelattelovepage  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi e, Thanks for sharing. The Atom is a fine grinder. Like you, some of our staff prefer it. Curious why you feel Eureke is a better company than Ceado?

    • @SpressoMan
      @SpressoMan 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey Marc, I know this question is a little unrelated, but I need help with my Brewtus IV-R. Two Questions:
      1.) Will any E-61 portafilter fit on any E-61 group head?
      2.) Is there a triple shot (21g) basket that will work in the Expobar dual-spout portafilter?
      In order to get a good ~2:1 extraction ratio, I'm finding that I need more than 18g of grounds. 17.5 - 18g won't really fit in the Brewtus IV basket; it gets a lot of grounds on the shower screen. And, my cortados/flat-whites really shine with a slightly ristretto shot.
      Bottom line, I need more grounds in order to get a good double shot. What basket can accommodate my Expobar portafilter? If none can, what other portafilter (aside from the bottomless PF I have) would accommodate ristretto lifestyle?
      Cheers,
      -James

    • @scalwi
      @scalwi 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi James, I have the Brewtus as well (also from WLL). I can't answer your first question, but for the second question, I use a 22 gram VST basket with the stock double spout portafilter (though I do use the bottomless portafilter most frequently). Hope that helps.

  • @jeffreygracik2885
    @jeffreygracik2885 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’m late to this thread, but how would you compare the E37J to the Atom 65, especially since they have similarly sized burrs.

    • @Wholelattelovepage
      @Wholelattelovepage  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hi JG, Never too late as I monitor comments for all original threads! They are very similar. A couple of key differences. The Atom uses a grind size adjustment system which keeps the top burr static and moves a shaft through the motor to change grind size while the Ceado uses a fixed bottom burr and moves the top burr up and down. The way they are put together neither grinder loses it's grind size setting when opening for cleaning etc. Both grinders are built well but the Ceado gets the edge in overall build quality. It's noticeable in overall weight, quality of fasteners and use of forged metals in some areas of the Eureka grinders compared to more machined parts in the Ceado. Hope that helps!
      Marc

  • @nicolaskuch1128
    @nicolaskuch1128 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the review of all grinders. What would be very helpful is to tell us what kind of roast you are using. As you know light to very light roast are becoming more and more popular amoung the specialty coffee community and grinders don't show the same results at all. For instance I doubt that 300w along with 64mm burrs will produce a satisfying result with a light roast. It takes 45 seconds with a F4nano to grind 18g of light to medium roast... Please do test several roast and tell us how this influences the timer. many thanks. Nicolas

    • @Wholelattelovepage
      @Wholelattelovepage  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi NK, You are welcome. And you are correct those light roast beans are harder and more challenging for some grinders.
      Marc

  • @chaynes89
    @chaynes89 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent comparison but wondering if the impeller can be taken off the Atom to prevent pop corning?

    • @Wholelattelovepage
      @Wholelattelovepage  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Chris, Thanks for the comment. Good question! It probably could - I have not tried. I wonder what affect that might have on its grinding speed and dosing consistency.

  • @jbosch3362
    @jbosch3362 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Im looking into a Bezzera bb005 or eureka mignon specialita grinder. Which one is better for espresso. Thanks. Greetings from the Netherlands

    • @Wholelattelovepage
      @Wholelattelovepage  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hi J, Thanks for the question. I'd go with the Eureka Mignon for sure! Bigger burrs, better grind size adjustment, 2 grind time presets with programming to 1/10 second and nice UI. Easy call!
      Marc

  • @JDMeister
    @JDMeister 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hello, I'm a big fan of your content but 3 dB difference according to experts it's like double the noise. And is pretty crazy how you gave that ceado a win in adjustment...anyhow atom 65 and 75 mm are out would love to see a comparison on those.

  • @macsalem
    @macsalem 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a question about the Ceado E37s. Is it a step less grinder? I ask because it looks like the adjust lever stops when it reaches the end.

    • @Wholelattelovepage
      @Wholelattelovepage  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi mac, Yes the E37S is a stepless grinder. The lever is similar to the E37J in this video. It can be removed and adjusted beyond the range of the lever stops.

    • @macsalem
      @macsalem 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for clarifying that :)

  • @timzlow
    @timzlow 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi... since i can't find much video about single dosing using Eureka mignon, I would like to ask here.
    What do you think on single dosing on old version Eureka mignon? How is the grind quality and dialing in?
    Honestly, I am thinking of DIY a blow off system like Ceado single doser into an old Eureka mignon Instantaneo.

    • @Wholelattelovepage
      @Wholelattelovepage  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Timz, Thanks for the questions. Probably not finding much on single dosing with a Mignon as it's a rather bad choice IMO for that. Tends to popcorn the beans in the hopper. No reason you couldn't DIY a bellows but I wonder how well it would work. There's more going on than just the bellows. Wetting the beans prior to grinding (RDT) is generally required when single dosing. It reduces static and helps to get all the ghrounds out of the grinding chamber. Single dosing grinders generally have smaller grinding chambers so less gets left behind. They also have no static control screens or flaps (another reason why RDT is important) to allow grinds to exit chambers more freely. Most SD grinders also use burrs treated to prevent oxidation (rust) which is a risk with the moisture used in RDT. If interested in single dosing DIY you might pick up some info in this recent review video I did showing the internals of the new Ceado E5SD grinder: th-cam.com/video/V-Fnu7R68Tc/w-d-xo.html
      Marc

    • @timzlow
      @timzlow 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Wholelattelovepage thanks Marc. Really appreciate your reply. But I am from Malaysia. Which has pretty high humidity all year round. So static may not ne a huge concern here.

  • @nikosraptis1985
    @nikosraptis1985 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello Marc! What is the grind retention on those 2 grinders? Thanks for sharing

    • @Wholelattelovepage
      @Wholelattelovepage  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi nr, Thanks for the question. Depending on variables like bean type and ambient conditions they're in the 1-3g range for retention

  • @Shadowguy456234
    @Shadowguy456234 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    OK, so with the help of this video and after careful consideration, I have decided on...
    Saving up for the Ceado E37S ;-)
    Many thanks for the video!

    • @Wholelattelovepage
      @Wholelattelovepage  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey S, You're welcome and thanks for the comment. The E37S falls into the last grinder you'll ever need to buy category!
      Marc

    • @Shadowguy456234
      @Shadowguy456234 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Wholelattelovepage Thanks for the answer! Actually in the end I got the Eureka Oro Mignon Stark. I am in Europe and I got it for $530. Not bad for a 65mm diamond flat burr grinder!

  • @xuarchie9098
    @xuarchie9098 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could you guys review Eureka Drogheria MC4?

  • @stefanbergmann1315
    @stefanbergmann1315 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another excellent review! I love the quality of the Ceado, but the Atom seems to be a bit more versatile when it comes to producing a variety of grinds. Do you know if Ceado produces a grinder that's in the coarser range for pour overs, Aeropress, and the occasional French press?

    • @Wholelattelovepage
      @Wholelattelovepage  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi SB, Thanks for the comment and question! Ceado is an espresso focused grinder. Atom is too. Both can grinder coarser. Flat burr grinders like these tend to produce more fine particles when used to grind in coarser ranges. Depends on how particular you are if that's a problem. May get some dirty cups from French press. Also, if using for espresso it's going to be a pain getting dialed back in after grinding in coarser ranges.
      Marc

    • @stefanbergmann1315
      @stefanbergmann1315 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Wholelattelovepage Thanks for the great info, Marc! This is very helpful. I'm looking for a high quality grinder that's geared toward brew grinds rather than espresso; I primarily do single dosing, so low retention is key.
      Based on your input, I'll steer clear of these two models. However, in looking further I've come across the Forte BG and also the Niche Zero. I see that Eureka will also be launching an Atom Pro in 3-4 months, which looks promising. What can you tell me about these three grinders for brew grind?

    • @Wholelattelovepage
      @Wholelattelovepage  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@stefanbergmann1315 Forte BG is Baratza's well established commercial grade brew grinder. Steel burrs are better at coarser sizes. Grind retention is very low in the Forte. Atom is more oriented toward espresso grinding. I've done a review of the Atom here: th-cam.com/video/-VihPhmxphc/w-d-xo.html I have trouble recommending it for single dosing due to popcorning of beans in the hopper. Have not been able to get my hands on the Niche Zero

  • @dman7776
    @dman7776 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    In the video it statues that the Atom adjustment know is not as precise as the slider on the E37J. Is that the same case with the Eureka Zenith 65 knob where it would not be as precise as the E37J also?

    • @Wholelattelovepage
      @Wholelattelovepage  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Darin, It's similar. It's not that the knob is not precise, I just find a larger change in grind size for a similar physical distance of movement. Like if I turned the knob 1/4" and moved the lever 1/4" grind size changes more using the knob. On the other hand that makes it easier to go to a grind for a different brew method.
      Marc

  • @athar221
    @athar221 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Mark, I have the Eureka Atom, and the Syncronika a machine, I want to buy a special grinder , what do you recommend to me between the Eureka Olympus 75, the Mazzer Kony, the Compak e8

    • @Wholelattelovepage
      @Wholelattelovepage  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi HS, Thanks for the question. Of those 3 I'd go with the Olympus. Very similar to the Atom. The Mazzer and Compak are a little dated.
      Marc

    • @athar221
      @athar221 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Whole Latte Love
      Thank you very much Mark, always respond quickly and give the closest answer to myself

    • @s3ood160
      @s3ood160 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      السلام عليكم، اخوي حسن شلون استخدام اليوريكا اتوم سهل تضبيط حجم الطحنه؟

  • @planespotterjason
    @planespotterjason 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Review of the Zenith 65E?

  • @joecuzzola559
    @joecuzzola559 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dose WLL Cary the E37K? What is the price point? Is a comparison video for E37S, K available or doable

    • @Wholelattelovepage
      @Wholelattelovepage  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Joe, We do not carry the K at this point.

    • @joecuzzola559
      @joecuzzola559 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thoughts/recommendations on Ceado conical vs flat burr? I know this could be a subjective and controversial topic.

    • @Wholelattelovepage
      @Wholelattelovepage  6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hi Joe, Great question. A couple things I can say and a lot I can't with regards to flat v. conical burrs. The vast majority of prosumer level grinders we ship are flat burr - easily above 95%! There are loads of grinders in the non-commercial range with conical burrs like many from Baratza and Breville. When you get up into the high-end of commercial grinders you see more conical burrs. Now we get controversial... Why is that? Is the grind better? Are they more reliable or faster? Are opinions driven by vocal users? Can anyone taste a difference in shots from flat or conical in a blind taste test. Are we splitting un-splittable hairs? I spoke with 4 people in our tech support department who have worked as baristas in cafes which also roast coffee to get their opinions. There was no clear preference.

    • @joecuzzola559
      @joecuzzola559 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the reply. The comment on slitting atoms helped make the point. I'm just hearing more from vocal online opinions and realize the debate. Your opinion is important to me. A vid with ceado conical vs flat would be awesome. I'm waiting for the E37S touch version to be available at WLL but would also consider the T or K. I know you have a busy schedule but would certainly appreciate the comparison to clearly articulate the debate. Thanks again for your amazing help thoughts and commentary.

  • @mgp-bct7723
    @mgp-bct7723 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    How come you don’t have Mahlkonig Grinder

    • @Wholelattelovepage
      @Wholelattelovepage  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hi MG, WE carry grinders from about 20 manufacturers including Mahlkonig: www.wholelattelove.com/collections/mahlkonig
      Marc

  • @hellgirl1512
    @hellgirl1512 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    HI Marc, Is the E37J a multipurpose grinder?

    • @Wholelattelovepage
      @Wholelattelovepage  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Minh, It can be used for other brew methods. But, it's not easy to quickly change between fine espresso and medium/coarse grind sizes.
      Marc

    • @hellgirl1512
      @hellgirl1512 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Wholelattelovepage Thank you for your quick reply! I'm considering between Baratza and Eureka but the Eureka kind of throw me off because of the amount of retention. However, Eureka has a separate zero retention hopper for purchase, so that might help?

  • @joecuzzola559
    @joecuzzola559 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Mark, Great video. Do you know if the ceado will be available with the touch controller soon and any additional enhancements on next gen machine?

    • @Wholelattelovepage
      @Wholelattelovepage  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Joe, Thanks for the comment. We do not have an ETA for arrival of touch screen models at this point. :(

    • @joecuzzola559
      @joecuzzola559 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks. Are you aware of any additional enhancements specifically for the E37S. What are your thoughts on preference/performance of Flat vs Conical? ie: E37S vs E37K or T

    • @SpressoMan
      @SpressoMan 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      A comparison between the E37J/E37S/E37K would be awesome.

    • @rick-xf4sl
      @rick-xf4sl 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Joe Cuzzola Hi Joe, I thought I'd add my two cents here, I've had a Mazzer Mini Electronic, Vario and now an E6P. I found programming more of a sales thing than a practical thing in daily use. Weather and other variables make programing often hit or miss. I've never even changed the 1 shot or 2 shot buttons on my E6P. I just hit the 1shot button and then hit it again for a sqoosh more. Second hit turns it off. All very fast and consistent with me determining the final amount. If I want to be really fussy, I'll weigh it but that is seldom my choice, so programming the grinder has never been my thing.

    • @Wholelattelovepage
      @Wholelattelovepage  6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hi James, Here's the link to my E37J vs. E37S Compare video: th-cam.com/video/SauHkzegeg8/w-d-xo.html
      We are planning on doing a Compare of Ceado commercial grinders: E37S, E37T and E92 in near future. Not sure if I'll get that one squeezed in prior to SCA show in Seattle end of April - then I'm taking a few days to visit Pacific Rim on west coast of Vancouver Island. Might be early-mid May.
      Marc

  • @scrumpymanjack
    @scrumpymanjack 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was hoping for exactly this comparison and, as usual, WLL delivered. For me, the Ceado wins hands down. Just looks way better, has a more pleasing tone of grind and it seems more solid - less plastic and less digital-screen nonsense. When I buy it, I'll be sure to do it through WLL.

    • @Wholelattelovepage
      @Wholelattelovepage  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi smj, Happy to help and thank you for taking a moment to leave a comment!
      Marc

  • @Mattksee3
    @Mattksee3 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Mark,
    Would these grinders be good for an occasional commercial use, like a Saturday morning market on a single group machine? Thanks for all the great work you do!

    • @Wholelattelovepage
      @Wholelattelovepage  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Matthew, Thanks for the question. Neither is NSF rated for commercial use. However that's likely because Ceado and Eureka did not seek NSF rating for the grinders. The Ceado E37J's big brother the E37S with very similar design is NSF rated: www.wholelattelove.com/products/ceado-e37s-electronic-coffee-grinder. I'd be comfortable using the E37J for your application. Again it's not NSF rated but it is built like a tank!
      Marc

  • @BensCoffeeRants
    @BensCoffeeRants 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ceado looks like an old school style juicer Atom looks like a coffee grinding beast.

    • @Wholelattelovepage
      @Wholelattelovepage  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Here's a real beast of a grinder with a 1HP motor, variable grinding speed, diamond like carbon burrs: th-cam.com/video/CC2YSZH-4ig/w-d-xo.html

    • @BensCoffeeRants
      @BensCoffeeRants 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Wholelattelovepage Yeah I've seen that one. It is a crazy grinder. I know Ceado does make great grinders, just was pointing out a subjective positive point for the Eureka :)

  • @rick-xf4sl
    @rick-xf4sl 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    My arm hurts from patting myself on the back for buying a Ceado.
    The guarantee says it all !

    • @Wholelattelovepage
      @Wholelattelovepage  6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      LOL, Don't hurt yourself!

    • @gigi9467
      @gigi9467 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ceado e6p right here

    • @auachee
      @auachee 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How is it? Gets too clumpy? Have seen some videos lately that quite dissapointed me, how do you handle with that?