Major NCC Breaches Uncovered: Should Homeowners Pay for Substandard Frame Construction?
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- In this episode of Site Inspections, we investigate a property in Victoria where our frame inspection uncovered serious breaches of the National Construction Code (NCC) and Australian standards.
A frame stage payment is a portion of a building contract payment that is made after the completion of the property's framing stage. This typically includes the home's floor, wall, and roof frames. But should a homeowner make this payment when there's a clear failure to comply with regulations?
As we take you through the property, we reveal these non-compliance issues in detail, demonstrating how they not only contradict the Australian standards but also deviate from the property's original engineering plans.
Join us as we analyze parts of the engineering plans, identify on-site breaches, and compare these discrepancies with relevant Australian standards. This video aims to educate homeowners on their rights and responsibilities and stress the importance of stringent property inspections before making any payments to builders.
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I have nothing to do with the building industry, but I am addicted to your videos. Keep up the good work and hold them accountable.
There is so much knowledge that you are sharing on these videos! Thanks a heap for those of us who are noobs to all of this!
I really appreciate your inspections. Is there any way of having a follow up to see the outcome for the home owner? Did it get rectified, what was the builders reaction, how long it delayed the build etc?
I was going to ask the same thing.
You're a bloody legend, I wish all building inspectors were as knowledgeable and informative as you are.
I'm a builder and this demonstrates why I will never let anyone else build my home and why I will never buy a house built by someone else.
Im not a builder and these videos convinced me to never buy new.
@@crazysteve8088 Just find a good builder which is very difficult task. I have had to fix work done by so called quality builders. Many builders have asked me to work for them and I have refused because of their low quality
@@morninboyHow do we find a quality builder?
@@jacobkuntflapp Believe it or not, drywallers are good to ask for references as they want straight, square, plumb buildings. Ask a builder for references from previous builds and check them out. Go inspect the builders work somewhere.
If you are going to spen half a million bucks put some effort into it.
@@morninboy 100% thanks mate
Man this is unreal! Site Supervisor fell asleep on this job for sure!
you mean absent.
Lol you think they have site supervisors on domestic builds these days. More like some chippy 2 years out of their apprenticeship on $50 an hour running the show given 0 help by anyone
This is quite shocking. The structural faults with beams that are not properly attached or not properly supported are so severe that part of the building could have collapsed.
The problem is that their are certain private certifiers doing work for these project builders and they don’t want to loose the cash cow work by enforcing minimum standards. I had a site supervisor tell me the private certifier doesn’t even do an inspection he just sends a few photos and they just sign it off because “they have a good working relationship”
Sadly, this is way too common in Australia. Part of the problem is the government licensing branch. If they would get some QUALIFIED people on their payroll, and send them out and do random inspections, checking the licensing of the trades on site, and the actual work performed on site, then call the builder and trades into their offices for an interview should they find defects / non compliant examples of work on the site... how quickly would the builder and trades brighten up their attitude and quality of work if the threat of being delisted was hanging over their heads? Personally, I would start at the big end of town, and do a small builder on every 10 inspections.
There is no excuse for poor workmanship. Saying that they did not know does not cut the mustard!
Your knowledge is "Unbelievable".
Can you please show us a house build where everything is correct and you find everything as it should be please?? Is it even possible?
Might not be possible. I failed an inspection one time because one nail was missing from a truss hanger. Seriously.
I knew all the inspectors in a small town and they extended themselves to find something wrong with my work.
It was a friendly competition of sorts.
I did put the nail in.
Good work by the owner for fronting up the cash for an inspector early on.
Good on you, once again.
The situation which we are facing here is caused as a shift in builders becoming co-ordinators vs being around from set-out, until landscaping.
My advice is to work with a smaller builder who is the named as the registered builder, not engaging contractors for most of the work carried out.
Good luck out there!
Just gets better with every video
I’m a mechanic by trade image if I didn’t fit a couple of wheel nuts and didn’t refit the engine cross member with the correct size bolts these builders would have me in court as quick as the engine and wheels fell of
There apprenticeships are only a ticket to learn not call themselves tradesman
It's a joke. There are building trade apprentices getting charged out at 70 bucks an hour and cranking out crap like this. The whole industry needs a clean out.
Mechanics are the worst! No disrespect mate! They charge $120 an hour & you go to them..god knows what they do to your car or parts and charge a fortune and no chance of a client not paying because they won’t get there car! good tradies do the work and wait or chase the money for completed works!
Sorry mate I get done over by every mechanic!
@@dartymcphee6738 I don’t go to a mechanic I am a mechanic and extremely disappointed that there is no regulation in the industry that prevents some idiot putting in a set of brake pads incorrectly then having there 2tonne car becomes a rolling weapon unlike the building industry that has regulations but unfortunately the builders just walk away saying there isn’t a defect oh and I don’t know which mechanic you are pricing butlasti heard dealers are charging around the $180-$200 per hour and paying the mechanic $30-$35 per hour
People who do their own mechanical work and aren't trained put everyone else on the road at risk. No different to doing your own electrical or plumbing.
People who do their own mechanical work and aren't trained put everyone else on the road at risk. No different to doing your own electrical or plumbing.
Good on you for the work you do and sharing this on TH-cam. At very least it's informing the buyer with the regulations to keep some bastards honest.
Top plate might be fasten to standers, top plate is double up, so you would need to look for the gang nails on the bottom top plate.
Another quality build from metricon 😂
Yet another that should be knocked down and start again, just think when your called out to a finished home all or most of these defects are hidden, im scared to buy any new or near new home
Outcome video followup would be great
Reminds me of when my father got an extension added to his home. He was an electrician by trade. He came home after work one day. They had put the top plate on a boundary wall. He said it looked not level and they said well if its not its your fault. How is that he asked. We used your long level they said and it must be crook. Yes- they had gone into his shed and used his tools to build the extension. Mind you this was many years ago but this build is a million times worst than his extension ever was.
Turns out there is a difference between "reading" a drawing, vs actually understanding it.
Are there any builders left that know what they are doing. It's very concerning that trades people are so willing to disregard specifications.
Its even worse that it seems nobody is checking for compliance.
I used to always up the anti with engineers, if they wanted 10mm base plates I'd go 12,
Beams were different as they didn't like upping the kg/meter on beams as they get nervous if extra weight is present.
So I'd put in extra stiffeners and thicker connection plates and bolts, or more bolts,
"I'll take the engineers back to school on this job" I'd say ,
From what I see here, an extra day or two for one guy to make sure correctness was present would've paid off about 20-1
. Good times
The builder should be using an independent certifier for Soil, Slab, Frame, Plumbing, Electrical, Waterproofing and Roof. The owner/financier should be able to engage an suitable qualified professional to inspect each stage of construction prior to payments. Why is the process failing. These builders should be deregistered and never be allowed to hold a license or be allowed to work unsupervised in the construction industry!
The Banks won't do a thing, my daughter built in W.A. 20 week build now into its 3rd year!!!
Build has over 100 defects including major structural with the lender being informed & my daughter being told by the bank or wasn't their problem .
The build is a tear down, builders are Modco Residential Perth... directors & supervisor gone into hiding.
@@Hydrnaught That's Terrible. I walked passed Modco offices last week and they are empty, stripped and repossessed by the building owner. Absolutely no redress as the money has gone
Self certification is an absolute joke & dangerous the cost of a good surveyor is small over the price of a home.
Till next time, stay compliant kids!!!
Wow....just, wow. Keep up the great work. From Tassie.
Curious, do builders have these defects reported against their names? companies? Is there a register where this can be viewed?
Funny I was a Operator in earthmoving for 50 yrs but my Uncles and Nephews were builder’s in NZ watching this is very interesting, doing a great job cheers
Thanks for these videos!
I love your play back device 😂
Awesome videos bro.
Now here is a smart homeowner commissioning your services. There is plenty to fix before this stage is paid for... builder has nowhere to hide.
omg habibi, you need to come to asia to and inspect some properties. absolute field day.
Love your vids - very informative for me as an architect to see how a diligent building surveyor thinks. However, you do make the occasional mistake: e.g. these top plates are double top plates, they seem to be joined correctly as the top and bottom ones overlap by long sections that are nail laminated. The pictures you showed in the framing standard relate to single top plates. There was another little thing like this i noticed in another vid. Other than that though, keep up the good work! :)
Additional blocking & fixing is needed as per the detail. This ensures the double top plate acts as a single structural section particularly as it’s load bearing.
Engineer reviewed and directed to fix 😊
Mate your on to it, well done
How do these people get to have a builders license in the first place?
They probably don't have a license of their own. There's plenty of "sharing/renting" of Building licenses going on in both the domestic and commercial(smaller and shopfitting) sectors. They just run the gauntlet as chances of getting found out are few and far between. I worked in the industry and am aware of it. Old blokes past retirement age getting paid for license details. The construction industry as a whole is corrupt almost beyond salvation. The emphasis put on buying a house, then buying another as an investment and making a killing on it is what's driving it. It's the goose that laid the golden egg.
Just imagine how non compliant the foundation must be. How can that be checked for compliance after the concrete has been poured? X-rays and ultrasound?
Every new home must get an independent home inspection. These people building these homes are cowboys.
Rough as guts enterprises at it again
A lot of issues with this build but the part where you showed them joining 2 ribbon plates together is not an issue, unless they are building in N4 wind rating.
but if it isnt per the plan its an issue for me.
@@iancremmins4727 what are you even talking about? plans dont state how to install a ribbon plate, the standard details acceptable methods and its on the tradesperson to interoperate that standard and complete the works accordingly.
@@judge462 yes, it is shown quiet often in these video's the results of tradespeople interpreting, pretty much the whole point of his channel .
I would love to do this job... so entertaining to watch thank you
I must admit that Apple Vision Pro has added value to this sort video's.
Very good,
Do you sell that voice device??
Can you actually do a video of where things are correct? Or does that not happen in Victoria?
Building companies should hire you would save them a lot of time and money
Mate have u ever done one that was perfect ? That impressed you ?? Could you please post just one ??
Do mass building companies even have foremen? Jesus.
Great video. This scares me. What if my home has issues like this (I didn’t build it, older home)? Have homes collapsed due to engineering defects?
Yes it can collapse during earthquake, the office building in chch new zealand collapsed and killed lots of people due to engineering defects
More structural integrity in a tent
Yeh his right. On a case of metal clete wielded to steel column where you’re only relying on one line of wield, a bottom plate seeds to be provided.
Bro im so nervous about building at the back of my home! I planning permit approved, so many mistakes the average person has no idea about
The fact that a cheap pine and compressed particle frame is an approved frame in the first place is a fucking joke. Building "standards" in Australia is a fantasy.
dude start a patreon so we can get you a bloody go pro. My cat enjoyed this video though.
🤣 will do, in the works just for you 😊
Within the first minute i spotted a major fault in the floor framing.
In NZ Local councils carry out inspections and engineers will sign off on SED elements. Who performs the inspections in Aus?
Lots of dodgy NZ builders left for Australia, when NZ tightened up 10 years ago. The NZ builders that stayed home were the good ones.
In NSW you can choose to use the council inspectors or appoint a private certifier. Both should work in the same way. In my experience one isn’t any better then the other. The reality is no certifier on a site inspection is going to look at everything - time doesn’t allow.
have they used the fake bluescope steel? some of the beams look like the "spangle" has rubbed off in multiple places, and there appears to be rust staining..
Best tear it down. Cutting corners , lazy contractors, where’s the 16 mm bolts ? Oh didn’t pick ‘em up use these 12 mm instead …
One doesnt need to be a rocket scientist to be a building inspector. The issue is not one of knowledge but of what standards you are prepared to compromise for how much $$. Its well and good to be on a crusade in showing the many "non compliant " works etc but these practices of cutting corners is endemic in the domestic building industry and has been for some time. Of course specs are made to be followed for structural integrity and safety but as we can see so many workers just do their own thing. Luckily there is margin built into the specs otherwise these homes would be tumbling down.
Wooden ya know.... Defects !!
Wheatbix dregs Australia
Some builders are over worked and under stress I understand. But I do believe the level of craftsmanship has reduced significantly.
"She'll be right mate". Sadly an all too often used expression for "I don't care, not my house". This project is going to be a bun fight and if i was the paying customer I wouldn't ever be confident with anything this builder has created.
This leaves me to question how do you choose a quality builder?
Soooooo with all these “defects” will they or do they get rectified??
Yes they have to 👍🏼
@@Siteinspections do you go back and check the rectification work?
This is INFURIATING & TERRIFYING! Especially because im planning to build. After watching this i intend to employ a 3rd party inspector!
What was the outcome ?
I wish I had a million dollars spare so I could build a house and pay you to site inspect every month
😢
So you pay top dollar for architecture and engineered materials and even more for a builder who cbf following instructions or totally incompetent.
They must have run out of bolts AHAHAHA Classic. Seriously tho, why don't builders have site inspectors on site when they are actually building the house...would save them a lot of headaches in the long run. I know this may come across as naiive but wow...the industry is in a shocking state and needs to become 'more compliant.'
The thing is if they don’t do this things shortcuts they don’t make money!!! So if they stop to rectify any issues they will lose money!!! Its a problem in the industry!!
I'd hate to say it but us Kiwis just wouldn't do crap like this. I worked for a quality builder in the Coromandel and we always followed the drawings ,that was the golden rule.
Builders like these are shocking, we use to call them cowboys, but thankfully those days are long gone.
I’m a form worker and our plans just show what they want and it’s up to us to figure out how to do it. These guys get step by step instructions and still can’t get it right. They should be ashamed of themselves. Pathetic.
Not connected to anything!
The Chinese have a term for this style of building, mostly used on structures that collapse and pieces blow off with the wind, the term is "Tofu Dreg". Tofu Dreg is much like the Covid Virus migrating from China to Australia. Tofu is like Custard.
wow ... is this kind of crappy work common?
Absolute disgrace - shame builder shame. Walk them down Collins Street naked ☹☹☹
So do we honestly think this is a result of "get it done and move on" or people know how to do the job but just choose not to do things correctly? It baffles me that our economy is basically the building industry and we get this rubbish with no protection once its handed over! These tradies like looking the part and taking the cash but in terms of doing a proper job its a joke
Builders have them self to blame they pay peanuts they get peanuts 😂
Nothing wrong with ribbon plate.
There are enough defects in this job to send this builder broke.
Poor supervision, variation orders should be in place from the carpenter to builder to grout under that floating steel post etc.
Nobody, especially a young chippy thrust under his bosses ego are willing to stand up and note how things should be done, resulting in poor workmanship.
The entire industry has gone to shit via timeframes, turnover and greed.
Argh Australia, please timewarp back into the 80s please! 😂
At the risk of being perdantic a column is vertical and a beam is horizontal . I don't understand how this shit U r inspecting gets past any sort of inspection
Shocking. Builders and contractors should be held liable for their actions beyond monetary means. They simply don’t give a shit about people’s homes nor their lives
The garage beam and columns are not galvsnised and 100% need to be as well as GL1 is installed the wrong way around. Channel should be facing in...
STOP VOTING LABOR
Terms like 'builder' and 'work manship' are oxymoron's here ...
Thanks successive conservative governments that allowed and profited from the construction sector ponzi scheme.
Way to go Australia ... when you're doing mummy ... you're doing mummy good.