I live in Panama and this Starlink mini is a great and more affordable alternative ($35 a month compared to $50 for regular Starlink service with more expensive hardware) especially because not all communities in Panama have fixed-line internet access or even adequate mobile network coverage...especially in remote rural areas with limited connectivity.
Thanks for being so vigilant about the Mini. I'm sailing in the middle of the South Pacific at the moment and am dreaming of the day I can have a 25 watt replacement for my gen 2 dish.
It will be amazing hardware for the sailing community. Hopefully they come out with a reasonable plan that is suitable for typical cruisers. The $250/mo Mobile Priority plan is not a great fit.
I would love to see something affordable for us in America. $200 hardware and $35 a month would be awesome 👍. Where I live in South Alabama we don't have any good options for internet.
Never going to happen IMO. Or it will be severely limited at that price point. In the States, they need it to be more expensive than terrestrial internet to preserve capacity for the users with no other option than maybe Hughesnet, and it needs to be cheaper than HughesNet to pull those customers away. And surprise, that's basically exactly where it's priced.
The price changes fast, as of now end of July, they have raised price to $84/mo for service and hardware is still $200. Checked a few countries Panama, El Salvador, and Ecuador are now all $84/month.. ;-) 😇 and there’s still one difference when they launch it in the US Starlink mini’s service is $50/month and can pause any time. So it’s the best use case when having a RV on road, and can pause it when no on road. Not sure if same service of $84/month in above countries are passable?
Starlink is competitive with the few local offerings we have for fiber IPs, with better connection than those currenty have. So I'm fine with the regional difference in pricing of Starlink service as long as it is helping continue to build up the infrastructure to give folks in those countries affordable access to Starlink as an IP.
It's all the money. If you compare the dollar in those countries to the US and the average income, they are not getting a great deal. And when you look at the cost to build the mini, I have to ask, why are the rest of the systems so expensive. If the cost of service is so low, why is it so high here. And still, no one can answer my question as to how star link will interact with VPN's?
Hosting a VPN? Not possible due to the Carrier Grade NAT.. Now connecting to a VPN hub? Most VPNs have no issue dealing with CGNAT.. I can only think on IPSec/LT2P protocolo that in the past used to be problematic when the public IP is shared as it is with Starlink.
Been using a VPN (Surfshark) with Starlink for years with no problems. Why do you think no one would answer that? I assume thousands of people are using VPNs on Starlink
I have the US standard service for $120/month. I also RV about a weel each month from April to October inclusive. As far as I am concerned Musk can keep the mini setup. I was considering it but until I can buy the mini for $200 and have unlimited data for no more than $35/month and pause it for the off season I will not bite. The $120/month is more than Musk deserves.
@@SPDLTD and your point? Still limited plan. How do you figure $360 for 12 months? You have to have a standard plan or roam plan ($120 or $150/month). The $30 is an add on cost to either plan. Nor can you pause the service. No idea where you are headed with your comparison.
Yup supply and demand... My parents live in a EU country with pretty good LTE/5G, fiber coverage.. They are paying only 50 EUR/month for a fixed Starlink.. Also average after tax income in the US is pretty high compared to the rest of the world (even other developed countries)...
So if you already have SL, you can order a second [ROAM] Disk and they give you the choice of the Standard or Mini. The price is $499 for the Standard and $599 for the mini, and here is the kicker, Monthly Price $150. I just checked my account and noticed that ability there.
I want to get the Starlink for my house but I have lots of tall evergreens and I read that the Starlink would not do well because the trees might interfere with the reception. Is that true?
That happens to all industries in America but Americans are not informed. Nearly all new medicines are discovered in America but drugs are sold at 10x, 50x or even 100x higher in America so that Pharma companies can quickly recoup of R&D cost and make good profits. For Rest of World, it is something "good to have" extra so that they can make whatever money they can make in ROW. Drug price for same drug is 50% cheaper in EU, 90% cheaper in China, free in India (because india is allowed to copycat for free), nearly free in Egypt or similar countries. To be fair, ROW do get drugs of same molecules domestically made (not made in US or Canada).
The object is to get everyone connected globally, we are subsidizing these mini's. Broadband internet means educated third world countries, soon to be first world.
The pricing disparity is why I will hold out spending more on Starlink. Another 6 months - 12 months, Fiber optic will show up at my house. Starlink going to lose customers here. They need to do better on pricing.
Another hypothesis. Maybe the prices in Developed Countries, such as the US, have be somewhat inflated in order to “subsidised” hardware & plans in the developing world. Starlink Subscribers from Higher Income Countries could absorb these increased costs in a way that those that are in Latin America, as example, can’t. SpaceX wants to grow their customer base so they could be open to a little peter robbing for marketshare
Or the demand in those undeveloped countries is very low, and thus the satellites sit mostly idle as they cross them, so charging anything is a bonus. Once the sat comes in range of the continental US the load becomes massive.
@@flipping_for_funds Almost everything you buy is influenced by your geographic location for a variety of factors. This isn't really any different than someone in Alaska paying more for a gallon of milk than someone in Wisconsin.
@@bradley3549 there are reasons why milk costs more in Alaska and Hawaii. It takes more to get that physical commodity to those locations. It doesn't however cost more to ship Starlink equipment to me or to make that same equipment for me. The increase in price on milk is because of supply and demand and because of the outlying location. The Starlink equipment is made in the same place no matter where it will end up. If they were going to charge more for something, it would make more sense to charge more for the monthly subscription in remote locations but even that would be nonsense because we all are on the face of the Earth with the same satellites orbiting us.
You can dislike Elon all you want, but I'm paying 25% less for my Starlink now than I did originally and the dishes are cheaper and better as well. So from my vantage point, the trend is overall downward. The Mini is just an edge case and I'm sure they are trying to temper demand for what is an obviously game changing product.
It is true.. educate yourself.. on re-entry aluminum oxides are released into the atmosphere and the particles remain suspended.. w now 6100 satellites in space mass re entries will cause a potential collapse of the ozone layer. @@teeodee4924
This product is not designed for you since you already have a full fledged mobile plan, I pay 120 a month for a fixed residential plan, so with the extra $30 i now pay the same as you but have 2 dishes, so i can leave my residential at home and also have a mobile unit to take with me when i am remote or traveling once or twice a month.
@@busterhoodstar6598 No this product is designed for people that actually leave their mom's basement and get out into rural parts of the country where there is no service
@@busterhoodstar6598 I don't find myself downloading games or streaming movies while on the road. But for checking emails, keeping up with the weather and making voice calls while in places where there is otherwise zero cellular or internet connectivity prior to this, 50GB so far seems to be enough for a typical camping trip once a month. But that said, it's really a dumb plan and they know it. Paying all year for a dish I only intend to use three-four months of the year is stupid. But their plans are changing all the time and I'm sure this will follow suit.
Colombia is considered South America. We just left there and had switched our account to Colombia. For whatever reason, we just got an email saying our plan price s going up by $20 per month from ~$65 to $85. Meanwhile in Ecuador where we are now prices did not go up and the mini dish isnt yet available for purchase. There are definitely some more changes afoot.
Great information. I was watching a TH-cam video yesterday on Air Stream 2025 Atlas B Class. They come with a Starlink mini. I was surprised to see it. We haven’t purchased Starlink yet. I fear that it being the only “game in town” that Musk can raise prices when ever he wants. What do you think? Thanks for update!!
What video did you watch that said the Atlas would come with the Mini? The Mini was just announced - so it would be surprising if Airstream has already cut a deal. Are you sure it wasn’t the Starlink Standard?
Im Australia we pay 139 dollar Standard and 179 roaming. Germany 50 euro 59 roaming,France 40 Euro that's half price from what we pay . I would love the mini but not for that price .
Sorry, Elon. You just keep pushing me away. We are retired, fixed income, off-grid in Appalachia, and need the lower power and cost option. Also, our freakin tax dollars have helped get Starlink going over the years. Besides, I've been a big fan of SpaceX since day one. Why would you do this to humble people like us?
In fairness, if you only go places where cellular service is available this really isn't for you. I like to go places where I get zero cellular service what-so-ever and for this, while the current plan isn't great, it's still 100% better than no service at all.
No doubt the price will come down with time and this is just meant to temper demand and extract a few bucks from the early adopters. Compared to the other portable, power efficient, self-contained mobile satellite internet products out there I'd say the price is actually quite good!
I live in Panama and this Starlink mini is a great and more affordable alternative ($35 a month compared to $50 for regular Starlink service with more expensive hardware) especially because not all communities in Panama have fixed-line internet access or even adequate mobile network coverage...especially in remote rural areas with limited connectivity.
I identify as Central American, where's my Mini?
😂 yeah me too
Yeah, why not, me too
Thanks for being so vigilant about the Mini. I'm sailing in the middle of the South Pacific at the moment and am dreaming of the day I can have a 25 watt replacement for my gen 2 dish.
It will be amazing hardware for the sailing community. Hopefully they come out with a reasonable plan that is suitable for typical cruisers. The $250/mo Mobile Priority plan is not a great fit.
@@MobileInternetResourceCenter If I bought my starlink in Philippines can I use it in America or can it only be used in same region
@@AlexMAGA2024 I know if I buy mine in USA, it will not work in other countries.
@@AlexMAGA2024 the service says same continent, so if you bought in the US, can use it in other North America countries but not Asia.
I would love to see something affordable for us in America. $200 hardware and $35 a month would be awesome 👍. Where I live in South Alabama we don't have any good options for internet.
Never going to happen IMO. Or it will be severely limited at that price point. In the States, they need it to be more expensive than terrestrial internet to preserve capacity for the users with no other option than maybe Hughesnet, and it needs to be cheaper than HughesNet to pull those customers away. And surprise, that's basically exactly where it's priced.
I would buy in a second for $200 bucks.
Just found I could get regular starlink for 299, 90 a month. Not too bad at all.
I’m excited to try it given I have a home in El Salvador up in the mountains where everything else has terrible connection
it seems the service has raised price to $84/month
The price changes fast, as of now end of July, they have raised price to $84/mo for service and hardware is still $200. Checked a few countries Panama, El Salvador, and Ecuador are now all $84/month.. ;-) 😇
and there’s still one difference when they launch it in the US Starlink mini’s service is $50/month and can pause any time. So it’s the best use case when having a RV on road, and can pause it when no on road.
Not sure if same service of $84/month in above countries are passable?
Starlink is competitive with the few local offerings we have for fiber IPs, with better connection than those currenty have. So I'm fine with the regional difference in pricing of Starlink service as long as it is helping continue to build up the infrastructure to give folks in those countries affordable access to Starlink as an IP.
I emailed them and they said no, only in central america :( I would get one in a heartbeat.
It's all the money. If you compare the dollar in those countries to the US and the average income, they are not getting a great deal. And when you look at the cost to build the mini, I have to ask, why are the rest of the systems so expensive. If the cost of service is so low, why is it so high here. And still, no one can answer my question as to how star link will interact with VPN's?
Hosting a VPN? Not possible due to the Carrier Grade NAT.. Now connecting to a VPN hub? Most VPNs have no issue dealing with CGNAT.. I can only think on IPSec/LT2P protocolo that in the past used to be problematic when the public IP is shared as it is with Starlink.
Been using a VPN (Surfshark) with Starlink for years with no problems. Why do you think no one would answer that? I assume thousands of people are using VPNs on Starlink
I would totally purchase this mini if was available. I need it for work.
Thanks for keeping us abreast of the latest developments!
I have the US standard service for $120/month. I also RV about a weel each month from April to October inclusive. As far as I am concerned Musk can keep the mini setup. I was considering it but until I can buy the mini for $200 and have unlimited data for no more than $35/month and pause it for the off season I will not bite. The $120/month is more than Musk deserves.
RV service is $150 a month, so from April to October that will cost you $1050 with normal RV plan, the mini only costs $360 for the entire year.
@@SPDLTD and your point? Still limited plan. How do you figure $360 for 12 months? You have to have a standard plan or roam plan ($120 or $150/month). The $30 is an add on cost to either plan. Nor can you pause the service. No idea where you are headed with your comparison.
Holy shit. 100mbit is 0€ where I live and 600 mbit for 19,95€, always unlimited.
Yup supply and demand... My parents live in a EU country with pretty good LTE/5G, fiber coverage.. They are paying only 50 EUR/month for a fixed Starlink..
Also average after tax income in the US is pretty high compared to the rest of the world (even other developed countries)...
Mobile cell and data service is usually 1/10th the price of US and Canada in 3rd world countries. So, Starlink is much more fair.
Starlink, never fails to disappoint.
So if you already have SL, you can order a second [ROAM] Disk and they give you the choice of the Standard or Mini. The price is $499 for the Standard and $599 for the mini, and here is the kicker, Monthly Price $150. I just checked my account and noticed that ability there.
Interesting.. they must have just switched that on. Starlink, always changes! Thanks for letting us know.
Would spend the money IF monthly pricing included unlimited data and/or a pause feature.
I want to get the Starlink for my house but I have lots of tall evergreens and I read that the Starlink would not do well because the trees might interfere with the reception. Is that true?
Starlink needs a clear view of the sky for optimal performance.
@@MobileInternetResourceCenter thank you.
I'm guessing the US will eventually get the unlimited plan for $79, dish for $399
All plans seem to be cheaper if you are not in North America.
The US plan in this video has been improved - see the later video for details.
Yes - we covered it in this video: th-cam.com/video/6vHK_v90yeY/w-d-xo.html
That happens to all industries in America but Americans are not informed. Nearly all new medicines are discovered in America but drugs are sold at 10x, 50x or even 100x higher in America so that Pharma companies can quickly recoup of R&D cost and make good profits. For Rest of World, it is something "good to have" extra so that they can make whatever money they can make in ROW. Drug price for same drug is 50% cheaper in EU, 90% cheaper in China, free in India (because india is allowed to copycat for free), nearly free in Egypt or similar countries. To be fair, ROW do get drugs of same molecules domestically made (not made in US or Canada).
I got the offer today but the cost for hardware is $599.00.
Yes.. that is the offer in the US... with a $30/mo 50GB data plan.
The object is to get everyone connected globally, we are subsidizing these mini's. Broadband internet means educated third world countries, soon to be first world.
The pricing disparity is why I will hold out spending more on Starlink. Another 6 months - 12 months, Fiber optic will show up at my house. Starlink going to lose customers here. They need to do better on pricing.
sooo close to what a full timer wants and just out of reach for now...
I ordered the Starlink Mini and will try it at our remote off grid cabin in Canada after it arrives.
Another hypothesis. Maybe the prices in Developed Countries, such as the US, have be somewhat inflated in order to “subsidised” hardware & plans in the developing world. Starlink Subscribers from Higher Income Countries could absorb these increased costs in a way that those that are in Latin America, as example, can’t. SpaceX wants to grow their customer base so they could be open to a little peter robbing for marketshare
Or the demand in those undeveloped countries is very low, and thus the satellites sit mostly idle as they cross them, so charging anything is a bonus. Once the sat comes in range of the continental US the load becomes massive.
Price gouging or corporate greed. They certainly aren't losing money in central America.
Thanks Chris! Like 286
Kind of wack that the U.S. is always paying more to subsidize everyone else. 50GB plan should be like $25 a month max.
Guatemala is Q300 or $40
Also, why can some of the USA get a new starlink kit for $300 but other states can't?
They seem to be targeting markets where they have more capacity with lower pricing.
@@MobileInternetResourceCenter that’s an interesting concept but it makes me not want to buy their product.
@@MobileInternetResourceCenter that’s an interesting concept but it makes me not want to buy their product.
@@flipping_for_funds Almost everything you buy is influenced by your geographic location for a variety of factors. This isn't really any different than someone in Alaska paying more for a gallon of milk than someone in Wisconsin.
@@bradley3549 there are reasons why milk costs more in Alaska and Hawaii. It takes more to get that physical commodity to those locations. It doesn't however cost more to ship Starlink equipment to me or to make that same equipment for me. The increase in price on milk is because of supply and demand and because of the outlying location. The Starlink equipment is made in the same place no matter where it will end up. If they were going to charge more for something, it would make more sense to charge more for the monthly subscription in remote locations but even that would be nonsense because we all are on the face of the Earth with the same satellites orbiting us.
My cell booster was 500 bucks. Id be all over this if true..
Brasil
How long until Phony Stark jacks up the price for them?
You can dislike Elon all you want, but I'm paying 25% less for my Starlink now than I did originally and the dishes are cheaper and better as well. So from my vantage point, the trend is overall downward. The Mini is just an edge case and I'm sure they are trying to temper demand for what is an obviously game changing product.
North American privileged.
No unlimited data for you…next!
Why all us citizens don't understand nothing about geography? Columbia? Really😂😂😂
Elon has become a continuing disappointment. I got an invitation, but not interested.
More for us. This is my third Starlink terminal
You hear the hole in the ozone layer is back, thanks to Starlink satellites burning up in the atmosphere? Good stuff.
Not true
It is true.. educate yourself.. on re-entry aluminum oxides are released into the atmosphere and the particles remain suspended.. w now 6100 satellites in space mass re entries will cause a potential collapse of the ozone layer. @@teeodee4924
Stop spreading conspiracy theories
spreading conspiracy theories
I'm already paying $150 for Starlink residential with travel. This Mini is a gimmick. 50GB of data? GTFOH
This product is not designed for you since you already have a full fledged mobile plan, I pay 120 a month for a fixed residential plan, so with the extra $30 i now pay the same as you but have 2 dishes, so i can leave my residential at home and also have a mobile unit to take with me when i am remote or traveling once or twice a month.
@SPDLTD this product is designed for desperate fools. 50GB will be used in less than 60 minutes. 😅
@@busterhoodstar6598 No this product is designed for people that actually leave their mom's basement and get out into rural parts of the country where there is no service
@@busterhoodstar6598 I don't find myself downloading games or streaming movies while on the road. But for checking emails, keeping up with the weather and making voice calls while in places where there is otherwise zero cellular or internet connectivity prior to this, 50GB so far seems to be enough for a typical camping trip once a month.
But that said, it's really a dumb plan and they know it. Paying all year for a dish I only intend to use three-four months of the year is stupid.
But their plans are changing all the time and I'm sure this will follow suit.
@@busterhoodstar659850GB gets you one hour of internet access?
Something wrong my friend
Haven't you gotten the memo? All US customers are wealthy and need to be charged way more than anyone else.
Gringo tax, better get used to it..
500 bucks can be like a 1/4 of your monthly salary in the US, but 2 months salary to someone in a developing country.
I would totally purchase this mini if was available. I need it for work.
Colombia is considered South America. We just left there and had switched our account to Colombia. For whatever reason, we just got an email saying our plan price s going up by $20 per month from ~$65 to $85. Meanwhile in Ecuador where we are now prices did not go up and the mini dish isnt yet available for purchase. There are definitely some more changes afoot.
Star link sucks, to expensive. If it was $30-35 dollars a month or cheaper, that would be good.
That is the monthly price in some locations.
We always get stuck paying higher prices and crappy plans American last as usual 😠
👎👎👎
Simple explanation. No more suckers left in the USA to buy terrible internet
Because they dont earn in dollars there.
What wrong with you guys in the US.
Great information. I was watching a TH-cam video yesterday on Air Stream 2025 Atlas B Class. They come with a Starlink mini. I was surprised to see it. We haven’t purchased Starlink yet. I fear that it being the only “game in town” that Musk can raise prices when ever he wants. What do you think? Thanks for update!!
What video did you watch that said the Atlas would come with the Mini? The Mini was just announced - so it would be surprising if Airstream has already cut a deal. Are you sure it wasn’t the Starlink Standard?
and as of now, by end of July, the price already raised to $84/month
Another reason could be the use of 5G internet providers being round so many different places, not that it's everywhere, of course.
Not Costa Rica? What’s up with that?
Im Australia we pay 139 dollar Standard and 179 roaming. Germany 50 euro 59 roaming,France 40 Euro that's half price from what we pay .
I would love the mini but not for that price .
As far as I know, mini has limited data
In the US, yes.. a 50GB plan added to Residential is currently the only option.
The data isn't limited, but they will charge you extra over 50GB per month at the moment.
Sorry, Elon. You just keep pushing me away.
We are retired, fixed income, off-grid in Appalachia, and need the lower power and cost option. Also, our freakin tax dollars have helped get Starlink going over the years. Besides, I've been a big fan of SpaceX since day one.
Why would you do this to humble people like us?
Just give your buck to alternative sat ISP...
That’s what discourages me. The cost is higher than my jetpack. If they can get that data rate 100gb at 30$ they got a new customer.
In fairness, if you only go places where cellular service is available this really isn't for you. I like to go places where I get zero cellular service what-so-ever and for this, while the current plan isn't great, it's still 100% better than no service at all.
@@bradley3549 ill buy that. this will be a hit outside the us
This is dumb this mini dish would be perfect for camping and what not but just cant get behind the 50gig/30$ plan with a 499 buy in. That way to much
It's a $599 buy in, on top of a Residential dish and plan.
No doubt the price will come down with time and this is just meant to temper demand and extract a few bucks from the early adopters. Compared to the other portable, power efficient, self-contained mobile satellite internet products out there I'd say the price is actually quite good!
Come on, Starlink. Give us the REAL price for US customers. 🙂
Because the mini is designed for 3rd world countries