Audi R8 vs Porsche 911 Carrera 4S - Auto Express
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We've taken two four-wheel drive supercars to the track to see which is quicker, the Porsche 911 Carrera 4S or Audi R8 V8 Coupe?
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You should always mod the exhaust. 911, R8, doesn't matter. Sportexhaust is a MUST HAVE!
Really enjoyed the format of this review - to the point, excellent running commentary, and no overuse of drifting shots trying impress the TH-cam children. Well done!
I'd buy the Porsche for the sound alone! Epic
I drove the 4S and bought the R8 Spyder V8. Both great cars, R8 way more eye catching.
Both amazing cars! this video needs to be like 10 mins longer
Really easy actually, if you prefer 8 cylinders over 6 ;-)
BTW, nice to see 2 different philosophies so evenly matched. That 2 little over steers at the end might have cost the Audi the draw.
My choice, for the weekends the Audi, for everyday the Porsche ;)
yeah i love how everyone kept saying its in the wrong spot. And it kinda is when u think physics but they managed to work around it and viola! WHAT A MACHINE! I love both cars. Maybe one day ill be able to buy one.
More of that please!
more of these plz
911 : prestige, performance, reliability.
R8 : everything else.
Great comparison as these are both about the same price and are both 4WD. Very close battle between two brilliant cars.
Yes, the new GT3 is amazing, I can't wait to see it live...
Good point. Amazing how Porsche continue to refine the chassis and find ways to work out the understeer.
that flat 6 sounds amazing
Constant re-hash of the same old cars, initiating the same old boring discussions. Can't wait for the 4C!
From wikipedia:
On 5 July 2012, Volkswagen AG announced a deal with Porsche resulting in VW's full ownership of Porsche on 1 August 2012. The deal was classified as a restructuring rather than a takeover due to the transfer of a single share as part of the deal. Volkswagen AG paid Porsche shareholders $5.61 billion for the remaining 50.1% it did not own.
Nice vid... want you to redo this comparo on the green Hell in Germany with a flatout over the "autobahn" !!! XD My 2 favorites sportcars !!
The R8 is more special and exotic. R8 is amazing.
V8 and V10 got same exhaust pipes now. The double-twice ends from the V8 are gone just as the big oval tips from the V10. Much more difficult to distinguish now.
i bought the 4s because i couldn't afford the turbo.
Thanks. I never heard him say that Audi had the R tronic, or the Porsche had PDK nor did I ever see what he was shifting.
cant complain with either of them
You are an incredibly lucky man.
No, it's the new 2013 R8 model, where the exhaust pipes do not distinguish anymore.
Exactly
There is one thing that the R8 does better than the G and that's ride comfort, especially with magnetic ride. Many owners of this type of car want to have the option to daily drive it and it is something to consider for some customers.
You could say it's another issue of cost (in that they can't afford a second car after buying their near-exotic R8, whereas a G owner would buy a luxury car for daily use), but some people do want to drive around in their sports car everyday.
I was referring to my view on the aesthetics, but to be honest I also view the exclusivity somewhat valuable to me as well, which may be somewhat shallow. In my area there are hundreds of look alike 911s, but very few R8s and for me that is valuable as well.
I'd take the Audi any day! That concept-car look got me ever since the first time I laid my eye on one...
Who wants a Audi, if can buy a legend?. 911 is the sport car of last half century.
Next year new R8 will come out as well，looking forward for the re-match：）
Both are beautifull cars :D
the R8 is still a supercar and the porsche is a sports car :)
Just two tenths they say. Its quite a small track. If it was a longer circuit, the gap would have increased.
Fuck it, I want both.
test depends on the driver, the other driver, and another time, and not just one round, 4-5 min rounds
I'd take the R8 the long sleek body is gorgeous
True story. The sound of the 911 owns the R8 sound.
The balance of the 911 will continue edge the competition. Seems like he was working harder in the Porsche than in the Audi. I love the R8 but the 911 seems for rewarding to drive.
Next 911 Turbo vs R8 GT :D
I am 26 as well and I am lucky enough to have been able to afford one of these cars. I test drove a bunch of cars and my final verdict was to get the 2009 997 Turbo Cabriolet. The electric steering of the new car just cannot compare to the old hydraulic set up.
I do and perhaps, you are right in terms of looks and show. But as I owned several Porsches before the R8, a 911 is a much easier car to live with and sometimes it's better not to get all of the attention. Never before, I've had so many damages on purpose on my car.
The 911 ist the better allrounder, even on that matter! :)
Nothing can beat a Porsche!
Except another Porsche😂
So if you hadnt gotten the braking wrong int he last part of th track maybe the R8 wouldve done better, Very good review, this is how sportscars should be compared. All you guys need to do now is make the videos alot longer,
A legend that is so common its not even funny
That thing with the "self esteem" was dumb, I withdraw it. ;) Every person should decide on his own what's the important factors for him when buying and driving a car.
I couldn't agree more. Why did you get the R8? I ended up buying a 997 turbo instead of the 991 C2S or the Audi. How have you found it so far? Any problems?
Hi AutoExpress!
the R8 exhaust looked like the v10? was it?
R8 all the way!!
I like this presenter, he talks well with no bull and seems to actually know his stuff. He drives hard and fast and makes relevant comments. Top marks and yes it would always be the Porsche for me, apart from anything else it's a good looking car and the Audi just isn't.
True. Much more space.
Damn good question! Honestly, I went for the fun side at 26 (with different motorcycles), but I had to work 5 years more for my 1st Porsche at 31. I don't like the Turbo, it's always ugly and somehow too much, but I don't like the V10 either, bc it doesn't sound as good as the V8.
After several Porsches, I wanted to try something new and different. The worst issue with the R8 is the oil consumption. It eats oil almost like fuel.
Did either of these have foot operated clutches?
do a drag race!
and for that they will use the v10 engine :P its the same at the end ^^
Porsche is a Porsche is a Porsche
Hm, you guys should either get a perfect lap together that you then compare or say that the cars are dead even. But saying twice in that hot lap that time was lost due to a driver error can't be the then taken for the statement, that the cars are seperated by 0,2 secs. They aren't, obviously, since during the Porsche lap there didn't seem to be any too late braking or too early on the power (oversteer in last corner).
Sorry I don´t understand at all, Can someone tell me which one the best is according to the tester oppinion?. Thanks!
You are correct I was always in lovewith the v8 some of the 1st reviews of the v10 said its kinda looses its character since its heavier and yeah the v8 sounds better too, even though v10 sounds like a gallardo. now that the new gt3 is out, I think I wont be buying an r8 lol, since the gt3 no does 0-60 in under 3.5 seconds.
911 for me please! :-)
That V8 in the Audi is old technology.
An optioned out Turbo can easily exceed an optioned out V10's MSRP ;)
Likewise. Nice to have a conversation on youtube without it descending into insults.
Ferdinand Porsche who is the founder of porsche also happens to be the founder of VW itself.
That's actually the facelifted V8. The V10 have more oval exhaust tips. Among other distinctive aesthetic changes.
Because everyone is different and likes different looks.
No trolling at all, Mr. Eschbach. Simple truth. Your car is awesome though. But not because of eye catching factor.
Just wait for the 911 turbo
Okay here is the thing what I mean is. People have their opinions, I love the Porsche I think this is my fav Porsche then the 993 and then the older 70's ones. But Still when you talk about presence when you put an R8 beside the porsche people will only look at the porsche after they are done looking at the R8, I saw a Porsche as soon as they came out was amazed then I saw a 2007 R8 and I was still wowed. Hope You understand what I meant
Nice trolling, LMAO.
- I saw a R8 on the way to the Porsche Showroom .. made me feel much better about my decision to go for the 911 .. nothing comes close
i saw an r8 today in calgary alberta canada lol
Problem with R8 fans, is that with the Audi R8, you always get the sense that the owners wanted a Lamborghini Gallardo or a Ferrari 458 Italia, but couldn't afford one (or in the case of fans, the argument of, "It's cheaper"), so they chose to buy a car that looks like them and drives similar to them.
it actually looked like he was working harder in the Audi with it kicking out on a couple of turns. The Porsche never got sideways. Engine over rear wheels gives good traction.
R8 single clutch had jerky changes and that's it. Advanced gear changes are at present in all manufacturers so nothing new. Porsche in fact has is fallowing Audi, helped Porsche to implement the very strong DNA that has made it to perfection, it has been and is in calibration with Audi throughout many of its projects where Audi has helped to develop some racing strong success in past of Porsche and making RS2 together for example, Audi is more advanced but they focus on different targets.
That's a huge compliment to Audi you're giving there then, comparing it to a Lambo! At its price point IMO the (downtuned, FYI) V10 is supposed to compete with the 997TT, and still slots in under the G in the VAG family.
Perhaps we've grown too accustomed to the look of the 911 over the years but anything short of a GT3 doesn't turn heads. I'm not saying it's ugly, but it's not a very exciting design, and if you asked someone which one is more expensive they'd point out the R8 every time.
It's only the same company,not the same engineering.
I can't decide which one...
Nixe
surprisingly the 911 sounds so much better
no point to argue people .. people who can afford a 911 can afford another R8. one is mid engine layout one is tail heavy. two complete different experience just buy them both
So much more room in the Audi R8 than a 911, so my choice is the Audi R8.
Its more down to the driver than the car when its that close!
Yes! :) I was sick and tired to finance the local Audi dealer every single week with 40 Euros a litre, for the barrel it was 9 Euros.
I did mod my 1st 911, but only the suspension. Never ever! I don't see any sense or reason any more to make a sports car more sporty. ;)
how cold you prefer a R8 over a 911?
If it's one of the (3 of every 10) 911s that are still sold with the MT, sure. But 7 of those 10 have PDK. So why didn't that 70% of owners buy a GT3 if they wanted natural aspiration and an awesome exhaust note?
You're right- most R8 owners buy it because it's cheaper to own and maintain than the Gallardo. But if it looks exotic and drives similarly as you say, is it really a bad thing though?
Hell with the turbo it will be the most technologically advanced 4 w d car but I'm waiting for the next gt3 rs. IF you have real balls you drive that.
Yes it's the V8 and high revs are indeed the explanation that came from Audi as I wrote them. After 2 months, it was annoying like hell, so I bought a whole oil barrel of 200 litres. ;)
I never had any problems with Porsches!
1 lap does not mean nothing... at least 100 laps each car to select the winner.
I will concede that the R8 is a better daily driver than its Italian rivals. I believe your comment was, people buy the 4S because they can't afford a Turbo, to which I replied with my given reasons. The reason were not to answer, "why don't they buy a GT3 if they want a N/A engine and nice exhaust note?" On paper, with performance and maintenance and all relative to price, the R8 is great, but my problem with it is that its trying to play with the wrong crowd, but its fans are oblivious to it.
Wow really where do you live man, Africa or India lol? I know I have travelled. But yeah honestly im 26 at my age I think if I were to have money only for a v8 or a carrera or carrera s I would def get the v8 audi. When the turbo and gt3 rs come out thats going to be hard when I compare those with the v10 version. Agreed? What would u do at my age?
This is how much u guys understand about cars 911 is way to good if u compare with the r8
Who would look at theese 2 and say "Hmm I'll take the porsche" ? I mean just look at the audi it's gorgeous...
If you referred yourself to the eye catching to yourself, than I am sorry. Of course looks are important. It sounded like it's important to you that many people are looking. If that's true my statement still has 100% relevance.
Sportscar > Supercar.
THEY DONT NEED TO ATTEMPT A TAKEOVER ! Porsche Family i.e the sons and daughters of ferdinand porsche himself own the volkswagen group under which porsche also is included. how hard is it for you to understand this hierarchy ?
Both companies are amazing, and both know how to win races. De Germans just do it better on and off the track. Yes the Audi looks better, but I have been a Porsche lover since before I can remember. I am serious. I dont know when I first saw a 911 but I know I loved it, haha. So I would take the Porsche. You cant go wrong with either in all honesty
911 for me!
What does it tell you about handling etcetera?! Drag race could be won by a C 63 Black Series and it would be still nothing compared to these two beauties.
R8 4.2 costs 113.000 €
911 4S costs 112.000 €
(Germany)
Wow, 1.000 €... Very important at this price range. ;)
The R8 looks like it costs WAY more though. So you're kinda right.
it doesen't matter the number of cylinders a car's got, it's the liters it's got, 3.8 from porsche, 4.2 from audi.
that's why mercedes get a lot of power from v8's, they're 6 liter v8s