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- Here are my results pattern testing some of the true budget turkey loads available on the market. I used a Primos Jellyhead and Carlson's Longbeard XR turkey choke out of my Remington 870 Supermag. Enjoy!
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What's your favorite budget turkey load?
Kent Diamond shot #6, 12 ga 2.75 inch,1.25 oz at 1330 fps. There are 280 pellets and there's plenty of punch at 35-40 yds. PLUS they don't rattle your dentures!
Winchester Long Beard XR, 2 3/4 inch, #5’s. I don’t shoot pass 30 yards. Pure Lethal
Winchester Longbeard XR #5 3.5 inch. Don't know if you would consider it a budget load at just under $3 a shot but still a lot cheaper than the crazy priced TSS.
Winchester long beard XR 6 shot
Fedral 3d tss in 20 ga, 🦃
Keep it up! Lead pattern testing videos are rare. I've always used lead and dont really plan on changing soon. Got lots of lead loads from the years past. Most all videos are tss now.
Thank you! I have more in the works!
About time someone tests with the lead shots.back in the day we didnt have all this new shot tss never had that back in the day or all the other bullets plus all the new chokes never had them either just a full or modified choke killed many a turkeys with lead 6 shot or 5 shot
My grandpa had some #6 low brass field load, I think they were 1 oz but couldn't tell you for sure. He knocked down a tom from 30 yards or so no problem lol
Good video. I have used #5 Turkey loads for years . I just refuse to pay the price for the TSS loads.
Another great solid video
Always good content 👍
Great test!
Thanks for watching!
Awesome video!
Thanks for watching, awesome SIL!
Very good info video, tks
Interesting video.
Great and honest review on the budget loads I've bn wanting to see a test on the royal rio copper plated lead 5s turkey load I've searched everywhere and haven't found one test with them I didn't no they made them till I found them in Natchez book there a budget load to and get 10 rounds for like 13
Nice test
Thank you!
great video
Thanks for tuning in!
nice video !!!!!
Like the video, thanks
Im glad that you are trying and producing content. Its fun. Heck i done it way before social media. But you are shorting yourself and viewers. You need a backing. I ran 42"x48". And drop the shoot-n- see targets. Ive built some nasty economy load guns per customers. All the way up to tungsten loads. It was a hobby. I shot 300+ rounds of 3.5 and 3s per yr for 15yrs. Hey even built some 2 3/4 guns too.
Fives is a pre 1988 way of shooting. I started my hobby and addiction to turkey patterns at 12yo in 1988. What your shooting today was premium loads then. And just like most ammo companies their formulas have gotten cheaper and prices has went higher. When Wal-Mart sold supremes(black winchester) i use to set in the floor and build boxes. If the shell rattled it didnt go in my box. I got ran out of so many stores. I controlled my end of quality. #6s @1300fps with a tuned 870 will mop a turkey at 60yrds. Ive killed coyotes farther than 60 with #6s.
If a person is dead set on #4s and #5s i lean towards your over bore guns like SXP, SX2,SX3 and SBE123s your basic waterfowl guns. They held the best uniform patterns for larger shots. The 870 is (imo) the best adaptable gun ever built pre 2000. I had to get away from the punishment and went semi auto. Now im sub guage mode. Yes you pay a little extra but the guns are lighter and it doesnt beat you up.
If your wanting the cheapest of cheap 30yrd gun build for a 870. Remington 660 jellyhead with remington express 1330#6s aka the green lizard. And have adjustable sights.
I lost a bet one yr and had to hunt with economy dove loads and a new England with a mod barrel. 2 days and was tagged out.
"Turkey" Loads IMO is such a Marketing scam. I have taken several Toms With just basic lead #6 #7.5 and even #9 target loads, as well with steel shot. With absolutely no problems dropping them right where they stand. Now with that being said, They all have been within 20 yds. And with a 28 gauge.
I love the content of your videos. They definitely fill a void that a lot of other TH-cam contet creators miss. That being patterning lead turkey loads out of budget/moderate priced turkey chokes. I also like that you pattern multiple loads out of the same choke tube at the same range, switch tubes, and then do it again.The way I process information is significantly helped by your methodology, which allows me to compare load and choke performance at measured distances (think apples to apples). It is sometimes painful to watch a TH-camr spend 10-15 minutes to pattern a single turkey load out of one single turkey choke tube. I definitely think you are on to something with the amount of valuable information you include in your videos. I would offer a couple of constructive comments that I think could improve your pattern testing: 1) Consider using a wooden pallet set up vertically to staple your targets to. This would be a more stable support method that would keep you from having to tape a target to a cardboard box, which gets blown out after a few shots, plus it is not as susceptible to wind issues. I know in a previous video it looked like some of your shots were striking the ground, so the pallet would allow you to elevate the target higher, thus minimizing the chance some of the shot will strike the ground. 2) Consider using a paper backer between the pallet and target, this way you can get a better idea of how a load actually patterns in the event a particular load that your gun is not sighted in misses the majority of the reactive target. I know it takes extra time to "Sharpie" the pellets that miss the reactive turkey targets so the patte4n is more visible to viewers, but it allows you and the viewer to see how effective a load patterns at a glance, and gives you an idea of where your core pattern is should you decide to change loads and adjust your sights accordingly. 3) Consider adding a 40 yard pattern showdown to maybe your top 2 or 3 loads. While I think your personal maximum range of 35 yards is more realistic, since most birds are harvested within that range, sometimes a hunter who plans on taking a 35 yard max shot may misjudge the distance due to the excitement, and knowing a particular load patterns good at 40 yards allows a hunter the ability to still make a clean ethical kill out to 40 yards. Again, with conventional leadl loads, except Winchester Longbeards, 35-40 yards is probably a good maximum range for most turkey hunters. Another benefit of using a Sharpie to mark pellet strikes on the backer with lead loads, is that you will have to circle a lot less pellet holes than the TH-camrs doing it with #9-10 shot in TSS loads.
*Another video idea, that won't break the bank, would be to compare several different 2.75 inch field/game/skeet loads in 7.5 shot to see how they patten at say 15 and 25/30 yards. For hunters that hunt in areas with heavy cover that don't offer shots beyond 25-30 yards, these field/skeet loads might be a viable cost effective alternative to high brass dedicated lead turkey loads. I would suspect that the harder shot found in skeet loads, like Winchester AAs, would pattern better than softer lead game loads. Also, with lower velocity field loads, I would think the softer shot in game loads might not deform as bad as lead shot fired in high velocity shells. These are just theories that you could test in such a head to head comparison. I know Winchester actually markets 7.5 lead shot Turkey loads in .410 with a notation on the box that they are not to be used for turkeys beyond 30 yards. I suspect it is because beyond 30 yards 7.5 shot doesn't have the energy necessary to penetrate a turkey's skull/spine. I would definitely love to see a vdeo like that, obviously with the stated caveat that there is a hard distance rule that 7.5 shot loads should not be used beyon 25-30 yards maximum. Some loads might pattern so poorly that a hard max distance might be 15-20 yards. Anyway, please keep up the good work and I am excited to see some more videos.
Thanks for the feedback! Stay tuned, there are more in the works!
You should have included something not typically considered turkey ammo but I've seen them perform excellently out of several guns.
Federal Prairie Storm. They run similar velocities to long range lead loads designed for upland, like the Remington Express XLR loads, but in a 3" they have 1 5/8oz AND a flite control wadding. They have flite-stopper pellets mixed in that open up the pattern a bit up close while maintaining a flite control assisted hotter core pattern. They also come in 25 Rd boxes.
I looked for them at my local shop, but they were out. I will be testing those in the future. Stay subbed to see!
get some # 6 shot
Honestly any load even light target loads will kill a turkey under 30 yards. I think a 40 yard test should have been done to get a better comparison. The Remington Express loads really weren't a good comparison since there are a lot fewer pellets in that load. I was pretty impressed with the Fiocchi load. I have never tried those loads. You could have presented your results by putting the targets side by side in order to do a visual comparison. Some of the guns that we use for turkey hunting pattern best with the Remington Nitro. The majority pattern best with the Winchester Longbeard XR. The cheap Winchester loads do shoot really good for the price you pay. All the loads we use are #5s. I would never waste my money on the TSS loads.
Seems like the nitro Turkey through a jelly head choke tube is on point
They looked good to me!
Love the video but would of really liked to see you adjust your site and then do it all over with counts, seems like your whole pattern is shooting left.
I’d like to see you do a Winchester LB XR Pattern Test.
I have! Check my recent videos. Thanks for watching!
I use Winchester number fives double x But unfortunately because I have a browning 3 and a 1/2 inch super 12 I can't really find any budget loads in 3 1/2" Simply because I prefer to be able to shoot out to 55 yds. Great test though it was enjoyable to watch and see what those loads would do the Jelly head choke definitely worked the best Thanks for sharing😊
Thanks! Love the double x #5. Was my preferred load for years.
Have you tried the Winchester Longbeard XR 3.5? That is the load that I like best in #5 and you can get it for less than $3 a pop which isn't too bad compared to the insanely expensive loads. I once killed a Tom at 72 yards by accident. I had no idea it was that far because it was a weedy field and I couldn't get a reading with my range finder. I thought it was about a 50 yard shot. It dropped him deader than a doornail.
@@stevecolombe4446 I had some boxes of 3.5" XR a couple of years ago but I've pretty much just gone to 3" these days. I've stepped off a few shots that were further than I realized too in the heat of the moment out in the field 😅
That is what I meant I use the long beard xr 3 and a half inch But I also have some of the double axe they both work quite well I also killed 1 at 68 yd after my buddy missed
Could see the wad in a few shots.
1st day to register for tags in Illinois. April Fool's Day. Hope that's not telling us something.
cool video i just started turkey hunting last fall got a stevens 320 turkey 22 inch barrel in 12 gauge so wondeing what leanth barrel you where using for the testing thanks
No idea. Im going to guess its 24-28" on my 870.
If you dont want to spend money for TSS atleast spend it for Longbeard xrs
LBXR #5's are my preferred load. Thanks for watching!
Great Video. The Jelly Head definitely outperformed the Carlson & I was impressed by the Fiocchi shells but the 3 inch Winchester #5 was to me the most impressive especially at 30 yards. I am 63 & 98% of my Turkey kills have been less than 30 yards as I enjoy get those Ol’Toms in close. But may I humbly request something? The Remington Express is a phenomenal shotgun for all hunting purposes but please try the exact same choke out of a Mossberg 500. Their factory extended choke is as impressive. Thanks for a HONEST upfront comparison & staying in the yardage that most Turkey Hunting should be. And also showing one does not have to spend ridiculous amount of money on TSS which can cost up to 18 to 20 dollars a shell. NO THANKS!!
Thanks for watching and commenting! I've been eying a mossberg at my local shop. I may just have to pick it up!
@@hunTN615 If I may say something. The Maverick 88 is the “budget” version of the Mossberg 500. The only difference between the 2 is that the Maverick 88 has the safety on the trigger guard. Barrels, chokes, & just about everything else will interchange. Made by Mossberg in Texas. I have been shooting one over 20 years & not ONE time has it ever failed me. The shotgun is totally black & comes with only one choke (modified) but any choke that will fit the 500 will work perfectly in the 88. And one can buy the 88 for around 180.00 used, around 230 brand new. You will be surprised at the value & performance from the 88. And check out the reviews here on TH-cam.
Looks like your gun is shooting a bit left. Can't tell for sure. Might be worth adjusting the sight.
Shells are the cheapest part of it no matter what you shoot
Using Winchester Super X 3" #4 in my Mossberg 500a Turkey with factory .670 XX full choke. Puts about 120 pellets in a 9.5" paper plate at 35 yards... but it's a 35 yard max load. Would not trust it any farther.
Always good to know what your load will and wont do! Thanks for watching!
Cool test but I like the jelly head ones better
Same. Thanks for watching and commenting!
None of these come close to touching TSS at 30-40 yards
I notice you were missing slightly left with all your shots. What’s up with that? Is it your sight or what?
Sights are dialed for long beard xr which has a different point of impsct than some of these. I adjusted my hold on the further shots to get more pattern on paper. Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the video damn those patterns sucked lol good info
Lol thanks for watching!
And I've bn testing my 20 and 12 and these new birch wood targets suck now don't get the good splatter effects as they use to
100% agree. The old ones were way better. I also dont like their new packaging rolled in the box. Makes them hard to stick to the target backing. Thanks for watching!
Longbeard xr high velocity 3.5" in #4,#5or#6 will crush birds to 60+ out of my gun. I like 4s but take whichever is available at the time. Ill never pay the price for tss and i definitely wouldn't settle for any of the patterns you just got...also most of your shots were to far left to fairly judge them
Looks to me like your gun is shoting a little to the left.
Not even close to what Apex TSS patterns...I been there done that with lead... those days r over. APEX TSS all day ,...everyday. and to spend abit more I will do just that. Pattern Master, Black Mamba...choke . 12 ga. REMINGTON,
A lot of dead turkeys with a lot of different loads.
No doubt, all solid options at the right range. Thanks for watching!
Looks like your gun is shooting a little to the left
Yup, hard to get it exact testing multiple loads. Point of aim, point of impact could always be shifted if you wanted to use one of these, but most of the patterns ended up on the target hopefully. Thanks for watching!
I've been shooting Remington Nitro Turkey, 3" #5 forever.
It was getting hard to find ammo a while back so I bought a box of 25 shells to try - Browning BDX, 3", 1 5/8 oz., #5 shot at 1350 fps. Even though they market them as an upland/pheasant load, it's really just like many turkey loads out there (at higher velocity). These figured out to a little over a buck a shot, and they shot really well in my gun. @@hunTN615
The xx Winchester is junk always has been