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- Today I tested Winchester's Long beard XR turkey loads out of my Remington 870 through the Primos Jellyhead and Carlson's Long beard XR full turkey chokes. I wanted to test if the Carlson's marketing translated to actual performance as they claim it was designed for the XR turkey loads. I'll let the results of today's pattern test speak for themself!
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Hit that LIKE to help me recover from getting walked up on in FULL larp 😅🤣😭
Never had a thought about the resin breakdown. Thanks for that👍
You bet!
Winchester SXP with the Winchester (with choke that comes in it) Longbeard XR 3” #5 is weetoddidly tight out to 50. Better have a good aim at 20! Fist size pattern of fury until 35!
Good info! Been thinking about getting one and trying it!👍🏻
Man that’s what I needed to see! Thank you.
Thanks for watching! 😎
For long range hunting, such as, fields or open country,the Long Beard XR with the Carlson choke is the best I have found.. It maintained its pattern after the 100th shot test ..I have killed turkey up to 70 yards using the Carlson choke with long beard XR #4 with my Remington 870 ... Trust me, I have tried just about everyone on the market, a lot of the after market choke tubs will stretch and lose their good patterns after 50 shots.. I've tested some that stretch out after only 10 shots using regular 3 inch #4 turkey loud... Some of the worst ones are sold through well known companies in the outdoor industry... But when it comes down to it, any shotgun , with any loud will kill a turkey if it's close enough👍Just know your guns ability...Be safe and good hunting 🦃
Love shooting longbeard xr 3.5 number 6 shot hard to beat combo in my 20 in remington 870 with carlson longbeard xr choke. 660 shoots killer patterns out to 50 although my maximum range is 35 to 40 because i love the thrill of calling birds in so close. And its nice to only pay 26 to 30 dollars a box of ten compared to 60 to 90 for a box of 5 and get the same results thanks for the review
Great test
Thank you!! Glad you enjoyed it.
Great video my friend thank you for sharing I will have to possibly look and see if they have a choke for my Browning
Thanks for watching! Here's the same choke for the Browning Invector Plus thread pattern: amzn.to/3TnqzRz
Always fun videos....subbed
Thanks!
I appreciate you taking the time to make this video! Trying to kill my first bird this year and I’m running the Carlson LBXR Choke with LBXR #6’s. Thank you for the insight and what I should expect!
Good luck! That's a good combo and should serve you well.
Thank you, great job Brother ✝️🦃❤️😊👍🏿
Thanks for watching!!
As a rural mail carrier in northern Michigan thanks for keeping the intro. I currently use these bullets with the primos jelly head. Awesome video!
Hehe no problem. Thanks for watching!
I am currently using the Kent diamond shot patterns really nicely
Appreciate the video! Just getting into turkey hunting and I bought a box of the longbeard xr #5 and the Carlson xr choke a few days ago so I’m looking forward to testing them out. Hopefully I get similar results to what you showed here!
Keep me posted! Good luck!
@@hunTN615 hey man just patterned it today and basically had the same results as you did. I’m super happy with it. Thanks for the video, definitely saved me some time and money trying a bunch of things for no reason.
@@win300mag1 Awesome! Love to hear it. Thanks for watching 😎
Love XR. I shot 3” #5 until I tried 3.5”. It’s night and day at longer range between 3 and 3.5” in my gun
Please put your own closed captions in videos on the windy sections. The automatic cc are not good. If your get some extra money, a microphone would great. Especially for those of us that have hearing loss. Love the video and info.
I like those cheap jelly head tubes. Back in the 90’s they would come packaged with a Turkey call…and sometimes ammo if I remember.
They've always been good to me too!
@@hunTN615 my favorite tube for my browning 10’s back in the day till I ended up with a code black turkey tube. It holds a a lot tighter pattern with grand slams and Winchester number 5’s.
The hs strut undertaker choke has never let me down with the longbeards
Great test. I had not heard of the resin breakdown. Maybe I need a new box of Longbeards.
I was told if you shake the shell you can hear if its broken down. I have a 3-4 year old box of 3.5" #6 and they seem ok, ill come back and let you know. Let me know how yours work out.
Awesome test thanks for the content i shoot lbxr 3 inch 5s out of my Mossberg 930 with a .660 Indian creek choke throws a amazing patterns out to 50 yards and better better have a dead hold on them at 20 yards and in she shoots tight i put the Simmons pro diamond scope on my 930 love it have taking a lot birds with that setup the scope made so much of a improvement on my shooting and is very nice to be able to scope the bird outbas he is coming in but thanks again fornthe awesome content and lbxr isbthe best pattern lead load i have ever tried and federal grand slams is the 2nd beat lead load i have tested came pretty close to what lbxr can do
I REALLY want to get my hands on an indian creek. Thanks for watching!
The wife has a 20 gauge 870 with the Carlson choke and the XR shells and i have a winchester 12 with the Carlson choke and XR shells, 3" no 5s.. turkey doesn't start until April 16th here in Oklahoma, starting late because of low numbers in the state 😢 We have about 200 birds on us byt have to play by the states rules. Nice review 👌
That sounds like a good spot! Best of luck and thanks for watching!
All shotguns like what they like and it seems like no two are the same. That being said, I did a similar test with my Mossberg 930. I used new boxes of 3" Longbeard XR #5s and compared the Carlson choke tube to a Jebs .655. It was close, but the Jebs won out with the 3" Longbeard XR #5's. Interestingly enough, the factory Mossberg turkey choke was even with the Carlsons! Just found your channel and really enjoy your videos!
Thank you!! I'd be honored of you'd subscribe as I have many more in the works!
-HunTN
In my 935 & 835 I Jebs and patternmaster out performed the Carlson as well. However patterns are opinionated as different people want different things
My dad shoots rem 870 3inch lbxr out of the same choke Carlson lbxr .660 and throws awesome patterns as well he used the 6;shot
Deadly combo!
Hmmm… thought I was well stocked up. Didn’t know about the resin getting old.
I'm with you. I have a shelf of them that probably arent any good, or jot nearly as good, any longer. Thanks for watching!
Mossberg 835 like 3 1/2 nitro remington taken Turkeys from 15 feet to 75 yards
Those patterns almost look too darn tight for lose range! I’ve shot a couple of birds at 10 to 15 yards with my pattern master code black tube and cheap 3” 12 gauge Remington nitro express and almost missed them because the pattern looks like ashltgun slug hole. Your ammo tested does really good in the 10 gauge version at super long distance in my code black turkey tube in that one.
I've never considered that the resin could break down over time. Was planning on getting a new box this year anyways wanting to switch back to #6 vs #5 in my setup. Very interested in testing out my old loads as well
I thought I noticed it, then read it, then decided to test it. I like to buy a heap and stack deep, but probably cant with these! Thanks for watching!
Exact choke and load I use in my 870! Works great!
Nice!!
In the past I’ve only ever used the jelly head with hevishot blend 456
I’m a fan of longbeard but I always check to make sure they don’t rattle and the resin isn’t breaking down as long as it’s solid it’s a great shell
100% agree. Thanks for watching!
I shoot the Remington 887 Nitro Mag 12 gauge.. I used to shoot the Longbeard XRs and love them, but our local stores right now don't have any in stock, there's a large back order issue... so, that in mind, it's always good to have a back up shell that you can go to if you ever have a supply issue.. I also have the Carlsson Longbeard XR choke in .665. I found the Winchester Double X in 3" and #5 shot.. that is an amazing combo.. I had awesome patterns out to 40 yards.. I had my target stapled to a 2X4 stake and 3/4 " plywood back about 14" wide and 22" high.. staked them about 10" into the ground and even at 40 yards, it blew them over and out of the ground.. not a huge price difference, the Double X is a little cheaper by about $6 a box.. Watching your video, I can say the Double X in 3" and #5 shot, have a very similar if not identical pattern as the Longbeard XR.. not knocking the XR's, if my store got some in today I would be flying out to get some.. But, if you're stuck and don't want to wait for the XR's to get in stock, try the Double X... you may be surprised.. great video
I just saw the Long Beard XR Video. I’d love to see it shot at a Little Farther Distance, say 45-50 yards.
Just got more target's, stay subbed as I hope to make that one soon!
LBXR is hard to beat for lead. All though, I purchased a box of Winchester Super Pheasant 2.75. Pretty impressed actually.
No doubt! Good luck this year!
Fiocchi golden pheasant #6 👍🏻👍🏻
This is my favorite shell
Quickly becoming mine too! Thanks for watching!
My 835 likes the Indian Creek choke the best with TSS and the XR’s.
The boxes of long beard will open up over time mine got hot few times nothing major just in a truck and the shells would open up like you was shooting double x so if you do shoot long beard xr. From my personal experience. Keep them in a cool place for way better performance
I do believe there is something to the longbeard ammo getting old,hope they can eliminate that problem for the future,nice review👍
Thank you!!
Me too!
3" lbxr,Primos tight wad choke in a winchester sxp 12 ga. Works well for me. Kill birds from under 20 yds too 55 yrds.
Cheers 🇨🇦
I can't remember when if ever I've had a 20yd shot at a turkey
I’ve tried the Carlson choke and it’s not bad but I promise if you give the jebs a try and get the correct constriction for your range that you shoot and the density that you want you will love it I shoot longbesrd xr #6 loads 12 gauge and at 40 yds with the jebs in an 8 inch circle I’m throwing 196 pellets in it
Working on getting one now ;)
MAN...this!!! i had a bird a 40 yards yesterday still shooting a out of a old box ive had for the last couple seasons....Shot the bird he ran and just shook it off i couldn't figure out what the deal was...Went to pattern it and they where awful at 40 and it didnt make any sense to me.. i had a new box put a shell in a there was a day and night difference .crazy i run into this video the following day after.
Dang man that sucks! Thanks for watching!
Nice video
Thanks!
There is definitely something to the old vs. new shells. But they both get it done at 35 to 40. It would be rare for me to shoot beyond 40 no matter what I am shooting, but I have.
I like to keep it within those ranges if possible myself. Thanks for watching!
Get a super tight choke and shoot double x and you’ll get similar performance
My 870 did better with the 3.5” 5’s vs the 3” in my kicks .660. But it did pretty good with old super x 3” 2oz 4’s and rem 3” nitro turkey 5’s as well. Edge to the 3.5 longbeard. It’s important to test this stuff in your particular gun. My patterns still dont look as tight as some youtube guys even with same chokes/loads.
I've got a mossberg 500, the Longbeard XR 3in 1 7/8 #6 patterns the best paired with a Carlsons .660 Bone Collector Turkey Choke
Edit- I subscribed! Good luck this season, we will be waiting til May for Turkey here in PA.
Thanks vor watching and the sub! I hope to bring spring turkey hunts to the channel! We open up here April 13th.
@hunTN615 it's fun I've been self filming and posting for 2 years now. Just passed 1k subscribers. What state are you in? I've been thinking about trying a couple different states bc we open so late lol.
@@seldomseen_outdoors just subbed back! Im in TN. Turkey populatuons REALLY vary by area out here.
@@hunTN615 I'm actually standing on my porch right now listening to them hammering down on the neighbors 🎶🦃
I can flop one at 60 with #6’s any day with a regular buckkicker full, just have to see what setup works for you
100%
Trulock also makes a LBXR choke. My 20ga. likes that w/#6 LBXR
I've contacted them requesting one for testing. Stay tuned 😎
@@hunTN615 they also manufacture the Pinhoti chokes💡
I use to shot those shells, they are good close up. I was wondering if you ever tried federal tss in no. 9 shot. My Stevens 301 in 20 gauge looks like you're targets at 25 yards, shooting tss at 40 yards
Havent tried TSS yet, but plan to in the near future
I’d love to switch up to tss 20gage, just hope it is up there with a 12 gage double x
Long beard is the best TkY load hands down
Like "thee" best? Ever?
The only issue with this Ammo is the obviously degradation of the resin. Seems like you’d have to manage that, or micromanage that.
100%
LOL - Always painful to get run up on in full larp mode 😅🤣 I'll give you a like for pain & suffering 🤣😂🤣😂
LOL - Thanks. In full recovery mode still 😭🤣
Primos tightwad .660 Winchester XR Longbeard 5 shot
Good combo!
just cut the shell and see the resin and compare, if anything its from banging the shell around
I like that idea, I just may! Thanks!
From 0-35 yards it looks like I threw a golf ball though the paper.
I’ve never had a turkey get away from a regular old 2 3/4 #6
They will work! Thanks for watching
What’s the difference from the loads sitting on a shelf or at your house and “being old or new”?
That Resin breaks down and the pattern doesnt hold as tight over time.
@@hunTN615 So the new shells you bought did you just hand load those or did they come off a shelf at the store?
@@mattm4991 both came from the store. I showed noth to highlight how the resin can break down from a box that's several years old vs the resin in a new box. Thanks for watching!
@@hunTN615 I gotcha, I’m really just curious I’m not expert not trying to bust your n*uts or anything I actually really just wanted to know cause I always use shells from previous years and I’m actually goin to do some investigating on that.
What constriction is the calrsons choke tube
Both are .660 in the Remington versions
@@hunTN615 awesome! I've hunted with the longbeard #5 since they came out. I'm going this weekend to pattern my shogun for turkey season. I'm also trying out the #6's.
@@johnhayes2299 Good luck! I was shocked how much better they did out of the Carlson's.
Lbxr choke and lbxr 6’s out of my franchi 3 you’ll get maybe 5 pellets in the head at 40 lol wasted like $100 on the choke and shells and they shoot like trash for me lol goin on 6 years of turkey hunting and still haven’t found a good combo for either my 12 or 20ga
Indian creek makes a good tube. Paired with a double x, you get a decent 45 yard pattern. That’s been my experience at least with both my Remington 870s
@@jacksonshelburne2747 can’t find an Indian creek for my 20ga 870 ever and the one they make for the franchi is technically wider (more open) then the lbxr choke
@@Mr_Mosley_yt try double X. Tbh I wouldn’t Turkey hunt with those because of the kick, my franchi is super light and recoil operated though. Can you not order a 20 gage choke directly from them?
@@jacksonshelburne2747 on their site the only choke in rem 20ga thread I seen was wider then the two chokes I have now and at this point I’m a few $100 into trying to find a choke shell combo I love for either
What is the choke a 650 are 660
660
40yrds and under no problems.
All day!
@@hunTN615 I have been shooting those for years out of a 870 Super Mag with a Kicks Gobbling Thunder. 665 choke. Just works and well.
@@reedmitchell6716 if it aint broke... thanks for watching!!
Winchester has always made the best turkey loads between XX and longbeard XR never shot anything else
Edit: anyone possibly wondering before the new gun and tss set up i got i shot a Winchester SX3 12 g with 3.5 in 2 oz #5s .665 carlsons longbeard XR choke in fact me my older brother and dad all shot that until we got into tss last year or year before never missed a bird even at 11 steps granted be prepared though with that setup your shooting a golfball that close coming from experience
20 yards is not a test
Thanks for watching!
What is wrong with your microphone sounds like you are in a windstorm
That's because I was lol. Crazy wind during my only day I had free to record this.. had to reset targets multiple times between shots but it finally died down towards the end. thanks for bearing though!
Tape a cotton ball to your mic it helps a little with the wind, i though for a second you blew the speakers on your phone that has happened shooting next to a phone
The worst tss shell will go at least 30 yards farther. Id never buy these. Its why there is so many boxes of Winchester shells still on the shelf. Overrated
Your right tss is overrated. If you need to shoot past 30 yards you need to learn woodsmanship skills. Lead has killed more turkeys than tss ever will bud
Spoken like a true sucker that they sucked another over priced sale out of... with all 4 years of ur vast knowledge
@markhamblin8195 it's like you're using a bow and I'm usingv,300 Remington ultra mag.
80 yards is common with tss shells.
If you have to shoot turkeys at 80 yards, you shouldn't be turkey hunting.
@@jimmyharper6655 who are you to tell someone what to do. This isn't Russia
Longbeard suck
To each their own, thanks for watching!
Get tss shot. You'll be glad you did
Longbeards are a risk at 40 yards.
You might have to shoot it 3 times
@@Paul15.Not if you pattern and know your gun first. No need to spend 70+ for tss. Woodsmanship getcha some😂
My 870 did better with the 3.5” 5’s vs the 3” in my kicks .660. But it did pretty good with old super x 3” 2oz 4’s and rem 3” nitro turkey 5’s as well. Edge to the 3.5 longbeard. It’s important to test this stuff in your particular gun. My patterns still dont look as tight as some youtube guys even with same chokes/loads.
Absolutely!