🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:00 *🧠 Copper and magnesium are crucial for metabolic systems, mitochondria, and major health issues.* 01:02 *🔍 Morley Robbins aims to dispel myths about copper and iron toxicity, as well as misunderstandings about vitamin A.* 03:59 *🏥 Morley Robbins shares his journey from hospital work to holistic health exploration.* 07:20 *🔬 There's a metabolic triangle between copper, oxygen, and iron crucial for health.* 10:45 *⚡ Copper creates energy at every level of the body and regulates oxygen and iron without oxidative stress.* 16:24 *💡 Copper is essential for activating signaling peptides, crucial for various bodily functions.* 19:21 *🩸 Copper regulates iron levels, and its deficiency leads to rising oxidative stress and cholesterol production.* 22:17 *🍰 Sugar, not fat, is the primary cause of heart disease, contrary to popular belief.* 26:21 *🛡️ Copper acts as a brake to the dynamic between copper and iron, reducing oxidative stress and cholesterol production.* 28:34 *🧬 Copper regulates activity with iron to minimize oxidative stress and optimize energy production in the body.* 30:28 *🦠 Majority of iron in the body is in heme, functioning like a catcher's net holding iron attached to oxygen, crucial for life.* 32:21 *🍞 Addition of inorganic iron to food began in 1941, with significant increases proposed by FDA later, leading to concerns about iron overload.* 34:32 *🏥 Iron deficiency anemia is misunderstood; excessive iron, not copper, is a more prevalent concern due to fortification in the food supply.* 36:23 *🩸 Red blood cells are constantly replaced, with copper playing a crucial role in their production and iron being mostly recycled.* 41:43 *🛠️ Copper is essential for various bodily functions, but misconceptions have led to fears about its levels, while iron overload remains a significant issue.* 46:04 *💡 Root Cause Protocol aims to address underlying nutrient deficiencies, emphasizing the importance of restoring balanced mineral levels.* 51:12 *🍳 Cast iron cookware, when properly seasoned and cared for, is safe to use and offers excellent heat distribution for cooking. Copper vessels, if used, should be understood in cultural contexts and often are lined with nickel, which is less favorable.* 54:52 *🌱 Adding NPK (nitrogen, phosphorus, potassium) to soil blocks copper uptake in root systems, potentially leading to health issues.* 55:46 *🔬 Glyphosate, also known as Roundup, accelerates copper depletion from soil at an alarming rate, impacting food and health due to its powerful chelating properties.* 56:45 *💊 Glyphosate chelates copper at an astonishing rate of 11.9, significantly faster than other minerals, disrupting the delicate balance of soil and food chemistry.* 58:37 *🧪 Copper deficiency and iron overload are prevalent issues, affecting many individuals, with implications for overall health and wellbeing.* 59:32 *🩸 Misconceptions about iron overload and anemia exist due to outdated reference ranges, leading to inadequate diagnosis and treatment.* Made with HARPA AI
Wow. Fascinating and depressing. We can't turn around without encountering another myth or outright lie propagated by the people and institutions that ostensibly "protect" us. No one is protecting us, and worse, they are actively working to misinform us. You two are both brilliant, and I learn something new from Sarah in every podcast. In this one, she points out the danger of running out and buying a supplement based on one interview, something that I'm guilty of myself. It seems so obvious now; introducing something new changes a finely tuned system/dynamic. Thank you both! 🎯
It's an interesting talk, and I always enjoy learning something new. But I do get tired of what can feel like reductionist or narrow thinking. There are too many people who come to understand one factor and see it as being the center of everything. Not that I dismiss this perspective out of hand. It no doubt is true that certain things really are super important and central. For example, Chris Palmer makes a compelling argument for mitochondria being key to interlinking most major diseases. So, maybe Robbins is right that copper should be given priority, and from now on copper is on my radar. But my wariness is similar to what others say about Jack Kruse obsessing over light, to the exclusion of almost everything else. By the way, I love that you advertize LiteWater. I get my deuterium-depleted water from them. And I mix it with Mountain Valley spring water. I'm so addicted to it now that even the plain spring water, no matter how high quality, no longer is quenching. That is a great business model. How can I ever go back to normal levels of deuterium in my water? They need to quickly start building more facilities to produce more of this magical water. Supposedly, all the present facilities combined can only provide to 10,000 people. Related to that, you and Stephanie Seneff have convinced me to begin ditching my supplement regimen, out of concern for adding in deuterium. All in all, if one forced me to take a side, I'd go with deuterium being one of those major factors that is upstream of so much else. It would've been nice if you could've questioned Robbins more about how copper relates to these other factors: light, water, deuterium, etc. I'd particularly appreciate minerals being put into the context of quantum biology, including but not limited to their role in structuring water.
I 100% agree - I don’t believe in magic molecules or single factors. We have recorded part 3 and part. 4 I’m collecting questions. That’s also very important as I take my quantum health very seriously so that will have an impact on my labs as I still have many many more to go over
Thank you for starting this fascinating conversation and I'm really looking forward to the next part. It's a pleasure to listen to two of my absolute favourite people on this planet 👍👍❤
Just got the book. Fabulous read so far. Can't wait to start the protocol!! Suffered with chronic fatigue for most of my life. Turns out I had Ehlers Danlos and comorbidities after waiting 52 feckin years for a diagnosis. Im now carnivore, which has helped a great deal, but hopefully implementing this protocol will accelerate the healing process. I can't be cured but I can be proactive in doing all I can for optimal health. Thanks once again for fabulous content. So deliriously happy and very grateful to have found you. 🙏
@@ThebusysuperhumanThey are? Wow. Have you talked about EDS anywhere? I have what some call the terrible trifecta: EDS, POTS, and MCAS. Am on a GAPS no-plant protocol at present due to autoimmune issues as well. It surely seems to be slow going. Would love to learn more about the interactions you mentioned!
I am new to the channel and I just wanted to say thank you. I only took an interest in these matters after ‘earning’ type two diabetes and an autoimmune condition by following the guidelines of low fat, high carb. I wish I had been intelligent enough to learn independently before those events. I look forward to the remaining parts of this interview.
What a great video! This definitely affects me. High iron, low copper, showed up on a hair mineral test 3yrs ago and I could do with getting it checked again. Looking forward to the next video. Thanks
MORLEY! You are always so soft spoken compared to the interviewer... Is that so we listen more closely? ! 😄👂.... we want to meet Dr. Liz!💚 I have known other chiropractors who talk about the innate healer, too. I do believe it's the way we were created, originally. But we've been misdirected for someone else's gain and to control us. Time for that to end! Thank you.
Very interesting. Given the amount of healing and transformation we carnivores go through, i can only assume that despite all the added iron, it must come with sufficient copper to keep an ideal balance.
That was so informative. Morley is a great guest to have and you always ask the good, pointed questions.... 2 questions if I could- Just to confirm, for a healthy Carnivore, drinking out of a 100% copper vessel a good idea to get a bit of copper..... And, could you ask Morley about Raw Milk and its Lactoferrin? Is getting Lactoferrin a good reason to drink Raw Milk? Lactoferrin is a protein of the Transferrin family. It is bactericidal, anti viral, immune regulation and most importantly for this discussion binds excess Iron. Another benefit of raw milk of course is its lower Deuterium of 135. Raw Milk hydrates better than water. And it does not engage the Randall Cycle up to 1L/day. Even if had with some beef. Thank you!
I had an HTMA done that showed high copper, low zinc. She claimed my iron was “fine” not high or low. However a year later I had a blood test to check for iron by someone who follows Morley and I showed slightly elevated iron. Not sure what to think about the high copper…
As someone who has struggled with very high ferritin ( up to 550) over a number of years, I found this fascinating. Managed to get it down to 100 with blood donation and carnivore diet. I'm now not giving blood and will test what has happened to my ferritin. Is the inference that ferritin will drop in the presence of copper? Could the carnivore diet assist in lowering ferritin because it is higher in copper?
Super result ! ! Keep going Yes it’s multifaceted and too much sugar / carbs in the wrong environment can contribute iron accumulation (or binge eating on carnivore) Yes carnivore with organ meats which have bioavailable copper in the right amounts with other minerals
@@Thebusysuperhuman Thanks Sarah appreciate your response. I am currently reading Morley's book which is fascinating. Will have my ferritin measured in the next few days and report back what has happened in the nine months or so without donating blood but of course continuing on a pretty clean carnivore diet. The hematologist no longer wants to see me because he considers my issue resolved. With ferritin still well over 500 he had basically shrugged his shoulders and said he doesn't know the answer. I had to nut it out myself. The medical professions are bloody useless!
@@Thebusysuperhuman So without giving blood my ferritin score has not altered even though on an iron rich diet. I will continue to donate blood and test again in a few months.
I'm a 43 year old male on trt (for 17 years) and i tried this for 6 months because i was taking 50mg of zinc a day for over 20 years and those fear mongering video's about copper made me do this and i regret it because i felt awesome each day before this . I felt good for about 2 weeks and then It litarally annihilated my libido, muscles, hair, skin, mindset. i never ever had anxiety in my whole life untill i started tis protocol. Couldn't even tolerate a single cup of coffee anymore, i got soar muscles, stuffed nose, nauseau, shortness of breath, muscle weakness, extreme depressed/fatigued and was extreme wheepy like a girl watching a sad movie. Looks like i aged 10 years in 6 months. it was plain awefull. I thought i was going through some detox or something so i kept taking it. After 6 months i HAD to stop because i was bout to kill myself. I felt THAT bad.. Took me MONTHS to feel better again. I can't believe this will not backfire at you after a while.. I messed me up so bad you can't even imagine. I got tested for wilsons but came back negative and my blood copper was high end but not too much and my zinc was borderline low. Started taking zinc again like a did for 20 years but ofcourse that made me suddenly dead ill... Could not tolerate even 7.5mg... Horrible horrible experience
Thank you Sarah. You are great host asking Morley the right questions. I think it will be the best serie/podcast with him on TH-cam. Hope for next episodes very soon. PS: i would like you to ask him what he knows about Roaccutane mechanism and how to balance that even years after taking that 💩
what do we do about the aluminum oxide, barium, strontium and cesium, etc., that is being sprayed on us daily(at least where i live in PA) that we are breathing into our hippocampus and affecting our memories? This spraying also blocks the healing rays of the sun that you both recommend we get a daily dose of. Is there anything in either the RCP or from Sara's research that addresses this? thank you both...
Yes those are nasty elements - the problem with alumnium is it’s added to tap water as an anti fungicide which most people don’t know - then drunk or used to water crops.
What about copper and iron in menopause? My last ferritin was ok (in the range, at 76 on the higher levels). But I got reflux and cannot tolerate any sugars. It's horrible. Something is SO OFF...Please help. I am done and financially ruined from all the money paid for doctors that don't know anything... 😣
Hey Sara! Great topic and interview! Morley mentioned blood letting to help regulate the iron overload, what about a womens Menstrual cycle? Do we know if that helps? Love to understand that more!
What’s your take on normal ranges for AST/ALT because mine kind of went up. I’ve been lifting heavy weights and wanted to know what your take on that if that can be from exercise. and also if it is, is that something to worry about 🤔
No they shouldn’t be out of range -last year My ALT went out of range (not sure why could have been heavy exercise but I may have been using some medicinal mushrooms and when I retested about 2 weeks ago it was fine but I don’t use any supplements - so mabye stop any supplements especially vitamin D also what was your ferritin as if that’s over 50 it means there is too much iron in the tissues / liver
Wow I just started taking vitamin d+k2 supplement for the past few weeks now. had no idea that it could do that. can you give a short answer why? 👀 or can you tell me where I can find the study. I would love to read about it. Thanx for the reply 🙏
So there's quite a bit of talk in other YT videos that copper drives cancer progression (i.e. copper's role in something called angiogenesis). I would like to hear Morley's take on this.?
There are numerous videos on YT that are totally incorrect about cancer - also hardly any influencers run labs and share them so in dubious unless a person shows me labs (can be in a private DM as I don’t expect ppl to share private data online )
Cholesterol is vital for lowering inflammation and time keeping in the body so if you have good body clocks and low inflammation then there is less need for it
@Thebusysuperhuman I'm in the line of thought that high cholesterol is always a good thing even with the presence of pathology. And cholesterol is the firemen and never the arsonist.
Yes which is why I go round all the experts i can find, read their books, invite them on. Be open minded but still question it. Then test it all on myself to the best of my abilities and look at as many of other peoples labs I can. Then make my mind up. Then find another rabbit hole and carry on Then let the viewers make their minds up and encourage people to be their own n=1 There are many rights and no gurus
@@sheridezubiria4272 have you tested your copper status to see if you need it ? Also you use any kind of estrogen I asked Morley about supplements in part 2
The book says you need 11 molecules of OXYGEN to make one molecule of cholesterol. Copper deficiency causes oxidative stress and cholesterol is an antioxidant
@@Thebusysuperhuman I'll definitely watch that and get that panel. Normally, at my iron infusion office, the doctor orders the iron panel without copper. I met many anemic women there, whose ferritin in 2 - 10 range.
Some of us are pyrolurics who urinate out our zinc, which in theory make us copper heavy. Does Morley’s theory apply to us? This is treacherous territory
Morley NEVER explains HOW copper makes energy...But Morley is CORRECT about copper...he just need a mechanism...Whereever there is Melanin...you find copper.
It splits oxygen so it can act as the terminal electron acceptor - but yes there is more to it and Morley never claims to know it all - He might go into more depth in Part 4 which we haven’t recorded yet - Part 2 should be up today or tomorrow
So there are ancient text that speak on iron basically rusting the body with oxygen and water mix while if we were more carbon we would live thousands of years but telemere caps….editing
tell this to frank tufano.... weeks of eating nothing but foie gras... insane amounts of insomnia from then on out. goes mentally ill from all the sleep deprivation. constant paranoia he attacked everyone, even his own fans.. including me. everyone is the enemy.
Frank Tufano doesn't require anyone's input, Sara said it right, he legit has zero life experience even though he's 30 he acts 12, stop worrying about that clown, his followers are also immature, let them have him and vice versa.
Donate blood people, eat mineral rich foods and copper rich seafood and liver - your body will do the rest. ❤ Morley needs to be on Joe Rogan and a rich Roll podcasts not these no name people- leave that for your students Morley.
@@Cenot4phhis whole paradigm is based on Repeat (Ray Peat) and then his attempts to confirm the importance of ceruloplasmin and negative aspects of iron overload. He then extrapolates this foolish starting point into what he posits as concrete health advice. If you read his RCP it is riddled with poor health advice (for the majority), yet he has attained guru status among the desperate seekers. I asked him once for nutritional advice. He replied to follow the Weston A Price foundation recommendations. The guy is winging it (as most are in this space) and too many are happy to jump on his magic carpet. Well meaning no doubt, but severely lacking self awareness.
@@Thebusysuperhumanbut we agree that we have wrong advice and then ‘tailored advice which can be correct’. What annoys me about a lot of these ‘gurus’ is their lack of awareness, and their disregard for the people that their self aggrandising theories do not help, or worse, cause more harm to. On the ascent of the mountain of truth there are many off roads leading people away from the summit. Heck, even near the sunmit their are snakes to slide back down. The secret is to soar like an eagle above the whole mountain on the thermals of congruent truth and see as many of the paths as possible, pitfalls and ladders for each genotype in any given situation. 😊
@@Thebusysuperhumanand….’completely wrong’ is a definite position when people do not employ scientific language correctly. I can give many examples of gurus that were wrong…dead wrong…take, Ramiel Nagel….Charles Poliquin…Andreas Moritz….the Gersons….wrong due to either ignorance or due to nefarious intent. Morley’s approach is interesting, no doubt, also, I believe that he means well….but his advice is extremely dangerous to a subset of people….you want some concrete examples? He recommends Whole Food Vitamin C supplementation….he recommends stabilised brown rice bran….he recommends bee pollen……he bases his entire life’s work on a throw away statement by the unscrupulous ‘Ray Peat’, working in a top-down backwards manner…you surely see the issue here. Copper….a parsimonious term, I am sure you would agree. I observe that he now allies himself with Jason Hommel on many things copper…oh dear. Remember that ego is the enemy….and half of these people seek notoriety and fame ahead of going fully down the rabbit hole, not realising the extensive warren system that they are blind to. Having said that, I appreciate your good self, and a handful of others. The unfortunate thing about TH-cam, is that it encourages people to churn out content…where that be pure truth or diversion. Most goyim are unable to discern and so follow, spending money that they don’t have due to their aspirations for health and to find their saviour. It can be quite cultish
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation:
00:00 *🧠 Copper and magnesium are crucial for metabolic systems, mitochondria, and major health issues.*
01:02 *🔍 Morley Robbins aims to dispel myths about copper and iron toxicity, as well as misunderstandings about vitamin A.*
03:59 *🏥 Morley Robbins shares his journey from hospital work to holistic health exploration.*
07:20 *🔬 There's a metabolic triangle between copper, oxygen, and iron crucial for health.*
10:45 *⚡ Copper creates energy at every level of the body and regulates oxygen and iron without oxidative stress.*
16:24 *💡 Copper is essential for activating signaling peptides, crucial for various bodily functions.*
19:21 *🩸 Copper regulates iron levels, and its deficiency leads to rising oxidative stress and cholesterol production.*
22:17 *🍰 Sugar, not fat, is the primary cause of heart disease, contrary to popular belief.*
26:21 *🛡️ Copper acts as a brake to the dynamic between copper and iron, reducing oxidative stress and cholesterol production.*
28:34 *🧬 Copper regulates activity with iron to minimize oxidative stress and optimize energy production in the body.*
30:28 *🦠 Majority of iron in the body is in heme, functioning like a catcher's net holding iron attached to oxygen, crucial for life.*
32:21 *🍞 Addition of inorganic iron to food began in 1941, with significant increases proposed by FDA later, leading to concerns about iron overload.*
34:32 *🏥 Iron deficiency anemia is misunderstood; excessive iron, not copper, is a more prevalent concern due to fortification in the food supply.*
36:23 *🩸 Red blood cells are constantly replaced, with copper playing a crucial role in their production and iron being mostly recycled.*
41:43 *🛠️ Copper is essential for various bodily functions, but misconceptions have led to fears about its levels, while iron overload remains a significant issue.*
46:04 *💡 Root Cause Protocol aims to address underlying nutrient deficiencies, emphasizing the importance of restoring balanced mineral levels.*
51:12 *🍳 Cast iron cookware, when properly seasoned and cared for, is safe to use and offers excellent heat distribution for cooking. Copper vessels, if used, should be understood in cultural contexts and often are lined with nickel, which is less favorable.*
54:52 *🌱 Adding NPK (nitrogen, phosphorus, potassium) to soil blocks copper uptake in root systems, potentially leading to health issues.*
55:46 *🔬 Glyphosate, also known as Roundup, accelerates copper depletion from soil at an alarming rate, impacting food and health due to its powerful chelating properties.*
56:45 *💊 Glyphosate chelates copper at an astonishing rate of 11.9, significantly faster than other minerals, disrupting the delicate balance of soil and food chemistry.*
58:37 *🧪 Copper deficiency and iron overload are prevalent issues, affecting many individuals, with implications for overall health and wellbeing.*
59:32 *🩸 Misconceptions about iron overload and anemia exist due to outdated reference ranges, leading to inadequate diagnosis and treatment.*
Made with HARPA AI
Thank you
@@Thebusysuperhuman thank you so much for this information! Cannot wait for the other parts to come out, desperately waiting! 💕🙏
Such fascinating information!
Thank you
What about vitamin A?
Wow. Fascinating and depressing. We can't turn around without encountering another myth or outright lie propagated by the people and institutions that ostensibly "protect" us.
No one is protecting us, and worse, they are actively working to misinform us. You two are both brilliant, and I learn something new from Sarah in every podcast. In this one, she points out the danger of running out and buying a supplement based on one interview, something that I'm guilty of myself. It seems so obvious now; introducing something new changes a finely tuned system/dynamic.
Thank you both!
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Luckily we can avoid the synthetic iron in foods and supplements now it’s out in the open
@@ThebusysuperhumanOut in the open to those fortunate enough to find your channel. 🥰
yeah right i just finished one month of iron because my ferritin and iron are low and i have excess hair loss... now i can't wait for part 2!
It's an interesting talk, and I always enjoy learning something new. But I do get tired of what can feel like reductionist or narrow thinking. There are too many people who come to understand one factor and see it as being the center of everything.
Not that I dismiss this perspective out of hand. It no doubt is true that certain things really are super important and central. For example, Chris Palmer makes a compelling argument for mitochondria being key to interlinking most major diseases.
So, maybe Robbins is right that copper should be given priority, and from now on copper is on my radar. But my wariness is similar to what others say about Jack Kruse obsessing over light, to the exclusion of almost everything else.
By the way, I love that you advertize LiteWater. I get my deuterium-depleted water from them. And I mix it with Mountain Valley spring water. I'm so addicted to it now that even the plain spring water, no matter how high quality, no longer is quenching.
That is a great business model. How can I ever go back to normal levels of deuterium in my water? They need to quickly start building more facilities to produce more of this magical water. Supposedly, all the present facilities combined can only provide to 10,000 people.
Related to that, you and Stephanie Seneff have convinced me to begin ditching my supplement regimen, out of concern for adding in deuterium. All in all, if one forced me to take a side, I'd go with deuterium being one of those major factors that is upstream of so much else.
It would've been nice if you could've questioned Robbins more about how copper relates to these other factors: light, water, deuterium, etc. I'd particularly appreciate minerals being put into the context of quantum biology, including but not limited to their role in structuring water.
I 100% agree - I don’t believe in magic molecules or single factors. We have recorded part 3 and part. 4 I’m collecting questions. That’s also very important as I take my quantum health very seriously so that will have an impact on my labs as I still have many many more to go over
This was an amazing conversation and information. I am ready for part 2!
Coming soon!
Great introduction to this fascinating topic
Glad you think so!
Thank you for starting this fascinating conversation and I'm really looking forward to the next part. It's a pleasure to listen to two of my absolute favourite people on this planet 👍👍❤
Glad you enjoyed it! Yes Morley is a lovely man with lots of patience
Now I can hardly wait for part 2
yes that video with the relevant labs is up and Morley basically gives a free lab reading session and I imagine a 121 with him wouldnt be cheap
You answered my prayer Sara. Copper = Red light and Iron = Blue light
Hahaha Morley did. I wanted to go deeper into the light part .. he did in part 3
Looking forward to the next instalment!
Yes it’s up and I hope you liked it
Just got the book. Fabulous read so far. Can't wait to start the protocol!!
Suffered with chronic fatigue for most of my life. Turns out I had Ehlers Danlos and comorbidities after waiting 52 feckin years for a diagnosis. Im now carnivore, which has helped a great deal, but hopefully implementing this protocol will accelerate the healing process. I can't be cured but I can be proactive in doing all I can for optimal health. Thanks once again for fabulous content.
So deliriously happy and very grateful to have found you. 🙏
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Looking forward to hear about your journey ! Also fluoride and glyphosate are involved in ED too ❤️
@@ThebusysuperhumanThey are? Wow. Have you talked about EDS anywhere? I have what some call the terrible trifecta: EDS, POTS, and MCAS. Am on a GAPS no-plant protocol at present due to autoimmune issues as well. It surely seems to be slow going. Would love to learn more about the interactions you mentioned!
@@noblethoughts4500 Listen to her talk with Dr. Stephanie Seneff for some clues
I am new to the channel and I just wanted to say thank you. I only took an interest in these matters after ‘earning’ type two diabetes and an autoimmune condition by following the guidelines of low fat, high carb. I wish I had been intelligent enough to learn independently before those events.
I look forward to the remaining parts of this interview.
Thank you ! Yes there is a lot of out dated or bad advice
This was an absolutely brilliant conversation. Thank you.
Glad it was helpful
Complex topic & I'm looking forward to the next videos... thank you Dr Sarah!
Yes it is - but the basics are enough for those who don’t want to go deep into the weeds in later episodes
What a great video! This definitely affects me. High iron, low copper, showed up on a hair mineral test 3yrs ago and I could do with getting it checked again. Looking forward to the next video. Thanks
Glad it was helpful! The lab tests video was good as Morley was very generous
What is considered as high iron? My ferritin was 76
@@Ishana_Intuitive check out part 2
@@Ishana_Intuitive ferritin should be below 50 and it’s not measuring iron status. But 76 is going in the right direction -
MORLEY! You are always so soft spoken compared to the interviewer... Is that so we listen more closely? ! 😄👂.... we want to meet Dr. Liz!💚 I have known other chiropractors who talk about the innate healer, too. I do believe it's the way we were created, originally. But we've been misdirected for someone else's gain and to control us. Time for that to end! Thank you.
Yes! Let’s find Dr Liz!!!
I would like to know how to prevent metal toxicity From supplementing copper, iron and whether zeolite has any effect here.
I’d avoid iron supplements at all cost - coffee, dairy and other things I can’t remember block iron absorbtion.
Thank You, for the interview ❤
Thank you for watching
Very interesting. Given the amount of healing and transformation we carnivores go through, i can only assume that despite all the added iron, it must come with sufficient copper to keep an ideal balance.
Water, meat, sunlight; basics of evolution essentially from which the rest follows
Yes and a lot of iron overload comes from vegan food loaded with “iron fillings” or nasty iron supplements - not meat
Thank you Sara!
Welcome! Stephen
Thank you so much for this fascinating and helpful information!
Glad it was helpful!
I love what you’re doing. Chapters would be helpful on your videos. Keep up the great work!
How do I do that ?
That was so informative. Morley is a great guest to have and you always ask the good, pointed questions.... 2 questions if I could- Just to confirm, for a healthy Carnivore, drinking out of a 100% copper vessel a good idea to get a bit of copper..... And, could you ask Morley about Raw Milk and its Lactoferrin? Is getting Lactoferrin a good reason to drink Raw Milk? Lactoferrin is a protein of the Transferrin family. It is bactericidal, anti viral, immune regulation and most importantly for this discussion binds excess Iron. Another benefit of raw milk of course is its lower Deuterium of 135. Raw Milk hydrates better than water. And it does not engage the Randall Cycle up to 1L/day. Even if had with some beef. Thank you!
Raw milk is very useful and wildly difffeent to crappy milk in shops - yes great question about lactoferrin
@@Thebusysuperhuman Drinking Raw Milk out of a copper vessel seems like such an Ancient thing to do!
Ahhhh, Soil Grass & Cancer book on Amazon is $1,050 and as of this one copy available
And all other copies I found were between $500-750 dollars
Wow !
A link to a PDF would be great 👍
And thanks so much for the excellent work and advice
Great work guys
Thank you 🙌
I had an HTMA done that showed high copper, low zinc. She claimed my iron was “fine” not high or low. However a year later I had a blood test to check for iron by someone who follows Morley and I showed slightly elevated iron. Not sure what to think about the high copper…
I’d watch part 2 when we go over labs as that’s not been interpreted right and you need the bloods to compare with HTMA
Yes, excellent questioning!
Thank you. I still have more questions though
As someone who has struggled with very high ferritin ( up to 550) over a number of years, I found this fascinating. Managed to get it down to 100 with blood donation and carnivore diet. I'm now not giving blood and will test what has happened to my ferritin. Is the inference that ferritin will drop in the presence of copper? Could the carnivore diet assist in lowering ferritin because it is higher in copper?
Super result ! ! Keep going Yes it’s multifaceted and too much sugar / carbs in the wrong environment can contribute iron accumulation (or binge eating on carnivore)
Yes carnivore with organ meats which have bioavailable copper in the right amounts with other minerals
@@Thebusysuperhuman Thanks Sarah appreciate your response. I am currently reading Morley's book which is fascinating. Will have my ferritin measured in the next few days and report back what has happened in the nine months or so without donating blood but of course continuing on a pretty clean carnivore diet.
The hematologist no longer wants to see me because he considers my issue resolved. With ferritin still well over 500 he had basically shrugged his shoulders and said he doesn't know the answer. I had to nut it out myself. The medical professions are bloody useless!
@@Thebusysuperhuman So without giving blood my ferritin score has not altered even though on an iron rich diet. I will continue to donate blood and test again in a few months.
I'm a 43 year old male on trt (for 17 years) and i tried this for 6 months because i was taking 50mg of zinc a day for over 20 years and those fear mongering video's about copper made me do this and i regret it because i felt awesome each day before this . I felt good for about 2 weeks and then It litarally annihilated my libido, muscles, hair, skin, mindset. i never ever had anxiety in my whole life untill i started tis protocol. Couldn't even tolerate a single cup of coffee anymore, i got soar muscles, stuffed nose, nauseau, shortness of breath, muscle weakness, extreme depressed/fatigued and was extreme wheepy like a girl watching a sad movie. Looks like i aged 10 years in 6 months. it was plain awefull. I thought i was going through some detox or something so i kept taking it. After 6 months i HAD to stop because i was bout to kill myself. I felt THAT bad.. Took me MONTHS to feel better again. I can't believe this will not backfire at you after a while.. I messed me up so bad you can't even imagine. I got tested for wilsons but came back negative and my blood copper was high end but not too much and my zinc was borderline low. Started taking zinc again like a did for 20 years but ofcourse that made me suddenly dead ill... Could not tolerate even 7.5mg... Horrible horrible experience
Thank you Sarah. You are great host asking Morley the right questions. I think it will be the best serie/podcast with him on TH-cam. Hope for next episodes very soon.
PS: i would like you to ask him what he knows about Roaccutane mechanism and how to balance that even years after taking that 💩
That’s a great question about the rouaccutane as it has such huge effects and side effects
@@Thebusysuperhuman Please 💙 ask MR about it.
How many years after does it affect what's going on? I was given this at 14 years of age, im now 43 and suffering high ferritin
How much copper should you take ?
A few bobbies
Depends on your labs. If you watch part 2 we go through in great detail so you can tailor the dose for you and always get it from food as a priority
what do we do about the aluminum oxide, barium, strontium and cesium, etc., that is being sprayed on us daily(at least where i live in PA) that we are breathing into our hippocampus and affecting our memories? This spraying also blocks the healing rays of the sun that you both recommend we get a daily dose of. Is there anything in either the RCP or from Sara's research that addresses this? thank you both...
Yes those are nasty elements - the problem with alumnium is it’s added to tap water as an anti fungicide which most people don’t know - then drunk or used to water crops.
What about copper and iron in menopause? My last ferritin was ok (in the range, at 76 on the higher levels). But I got reflux and cannot tolerate any sugars. It's horrible. Something is SO OFF...Please help. I am done and financially ruined from all the money paid for doctors that don't know anything... 😣
That depends if you use estogen based HRT or not as that has a relationship with copper - blood donation after menopause is important
@@Thebusysuperhuman Very good idea. Thank you very much!
@@Thebusysuperhuman I do not use any HRT.
So if u have anemia how much copper u have to take can u tell us.
It’s better if you work with a practitioner - get the labs he suggested and a HTMA to assess your status properly
Hi Dr Sara!
How can we get rid of microplastics in the body?
Sauna is best - and also the Hubbard Protocol (just leave out the flush niacin)
Thank you Dr Sara!
Hey Sara! Great topic and interview! Morley mentioned blood letting to help regulate the iron overload, what about a womens Menstrual cycle? Do we know if that helps? Love to understand that more!
Yes it would
i could listen to these two chat for many more hours , STUNNINGLY - dense information for the Serfs who are being exterminated. GO carnivore !
Yes luckily Morley wants to do a series
Thank you.
You're welcome!
What’s your take on normal ranges for AST/ALT because mine kind of went up. I’ve been lifting heavy weights and wanted to know what your take on that if that can be from exercise. and also if it is, is that something to worry about 🤔
No they shouldn’t be out of range -last year My ALT went out of range (not sure why could have been heavy exercise but I may have been using some medicinal mushrooms and when I retested about 2 weeks ago it was fine but I don’t use any supplements - so mabye stop any supplements especially vitamin D also what was your ferritin as if that’s over 50 it means there is too much iron in the tissues / liver
Wow I just started taking vitamin d+k2 supplement for the past few weeks now. had no idea that it could do that. can you give a short answer why? 👀 or can you tell me where I can find the study. I would love to read about it. Thanx for the reply 🙏
So there's quite a bit of talk in other YT videos that copper drives cancer progression (i.e. copper's role in something called angiogenesis). I would like to hear Morley's take on this.?
There are numerous videos on YT that are totally incorrect about cancer - also hardly any influencers run labs and share them so in dubious unless a person shows me labs (can be in a private DM as I don’t expect ppl to share private data online )
Can a carnivore diet fix a copper deficiency? Even without eating organ meats?
Work from first principles. What did we eat for 100s of thousands of years? Meat, essentially thats all.
Copper follows from this diet
If you get the labs we go over in part 2 then you can test and see - I’ve always included liver and heart
How about copper in beef liver?
That’s a great source
~26:00 when iron is up we need to make cholesterol.. why is that?
Iron is inflammatory
@@Thebusysuperhuman, ok Sarah but how does that relate with cholesterol?
Can you speak to healing vitiligo through copper?
I’m not an expert in that field I’m sorry
Someone I blogged with said Morley said to take vitamin A with copper. Is that a fact in his protocol ?
It’s up to them
I don’t take either
My copper is fine
I’d rather eat liver for A
I love you both 💡❤️🙏🏿
Thank you 🤗🤗🤗
What happened to high cholesterol = low mortality?
Cholesterol is vital for lowering inflammation and time keeping in the body so if you have good body clocks and low inflammation then there is less need for it
@Thebusysuperhuman I'm in the line of thought that high cholesterol is always a good thing even with the presence of pathology. And cholesterol is the firemen and never the arsonist.
“Copper runs everything”. lol seems like every expert has their own specific nutrient they single out as special .
If you have every studied anything in great depth that tends to happen.
Yes which is why I go round all the experts i can find, read their books, invite them on. Be open minded but still question it. Then test it all on myself to the best of my abilities and look at as many of other peoples labs I can.
Then make my mind up. Then find another rabbit hole and carry on
Then let the viewers make their minds up and encourage people to be their own n=1
There are many rights and no gurus
What is a good copper supplement? I’m also eating quality Whole Foods
@@sheridezubiria4272 have you tested your copper status to see if you need it ? Also you use any kind of estrogen
I asked Morley about supplements in part 2
The book says you need 11 molecules of OXYGEN to make one molecule of cholesterol. Copper deficiency causes oxidative stress and cholesterol is an antioxidant
Yes it does - copper and cholesterol have a relationship in the body and yes cholesterol is there to help us !
Iron from supplements are not bioavailable. 2% at best. I'm iron deficient anemic and try to eat as much organ meat as possible. Still anemic.
Have you got a full iron & copper panel ? If you watch part 2 Morley goes over the labs he asked me to order
@@Thebusysuperhuman I'll definitely watch that and get that panel. Normally, at my iron infusion office, the doctor orders the iron panel without copper. I met many anemic women there, whose ferritin in 2 - 10 range.
Metformin also depletes Thiamine!
Metformin is not a good idea - I know the “anti ageing biohackers” use it. But it will end in tears
Some of us are pyrolurics who urinate out our zinc, which in theory make us copper heavy. Does Morley’s theory apply to us? This is treacherous territory
I’d always run labs or tests to asses your levels and base decisions on your data
Alabama shirt?
Atlanta braves
Morley NEVER explains HOW copper makes energy...But Morley is CORRECT about copper...he just need a mechanism...Whereever there is Melanin...you find copper.
It splits oxygen so it can act as the terminal electron acceptor - but yes there is more to it and Morley never claims to know it all - He might go into more depth in Part 4 which we haven’t recorded yet - Part 2 should be up today or tomorrow
So there are ancient text that speak on iron basically rusting the body with oxygen and water mix while if we were more carbon we would live thousands of years but telemere caps….editing
Yes lots in ancient alchemical texts referring to self alchemy and chemistry . Sadly some are lost
How does this fit with Jack Kruse’s idea that food doesn’t matter and it’s all about light, water and magnetism?
Food does matter Jacks talking nonsense. He’s ignorant
That’s clearly not the whole picture.
Nice to listen to him not to practice
Like haidut/ Dinkov
@@niranjanpaul2176Would love to see Sara interview him!
Oh no but i love my cast iron pan haha
So do lots of us. He said it was fine as long as you care for it and mind the acidic food
Blood test - Ceruloplasmin.
Yes it’s the transferritin : ceuroplasmin ratio - all of that is in Part 2 which we recorded yesterday
tell this to frank tufano.... weeks of eating nothing but foie gras... insane amounts of insomnia from then on out. goes mentally ill from all the sleep deprivation. constant paranoia he attacked everyone, even his own fans.. including me. everyone is the enemy.
I’m sorry that you feel everyone is the enemy; that’s not true.
I don’t have time for angry 20yr olds without life experience like him who just attacks -
@@Thebusysuperhumanactually he is 30 lol
Frank Tufano doesn't require anyone's input, Sara said it right, he legit has zero life experience even though he's 30 he acts 12, stop worrying about that clown, his followers are also immature, let them have him and vice versa.
Donate blood people, eat mineral rich foods and copper rich seafood and liver - your body will do the rest. ❤ Morley needs to be on Joe Rogan and a rich Roll podcasts not these no name people- leave that for your students Morley.
Yes dont fear the liver... blood donors are always in demand.
Morley is a joke
Yea need to be careful with his assertions
@@Cenot4phhis whole paradigm is based on Repeat (Ray Peat) and then his attempts to confirm the importance of ceruloplasmin and negative aspects of iron overload. He then extrapolates this foolish starting point into what he posits as concrete health advice. If you read his RCP it is riddled with poor health advice (for the majority), yet he has attained guru status among the desperate seekers. I asked him once for nutritional advice. He replied to follow the Weston A Price foundation recommendations. The guy is winging it (as most are in this space) and too many are happy to jump on his magic carpet. Well meaning no doubt, but severely lacking self awareness.
Nobody is completely right and nobody is totally wrong about everything
@@Thebusysuperhumanbut we agree that we have wrong advice and then ‘tailored advice which can be correct’. What annoys me about a lot of these ‘gurus’ is their lack of awareness, and their disregard for the people that their self aggrandising theories do not help, or worse, cause more harm to. On the ascent of the mountain of truth there are many off roads leading people away from the summit. Heck, even near the sunmit their are snakes to slide back down. The secret is to soar like an eagle above the whole mountain on the thermals of congruent truth and see as many of the paths as possible, pitfalls and ladders for each genotype in any given situation. 😊
@@Thebusysuperhumanand….’completely wrong’ is a definite position when people do not employ scientific language correctly. I can give many examples of gurus that were wrong…dead wrong…take, Ramiel Nagel….Charles Poliquin…Andreas Moritz….the Gersons….wrong due to either ignorance or due to nefarious intent. Morley’s approach is interesting, no doubt, also, I believe that he means well….but his advice is extremely dangerous to a subset of people….you want some concrete examples? He recommends Whole Food Vitamin C supplementation….he recommends stabilised brown rice bran….he recommends bee pollen……he bases his entire life’s work on a throw away statement by the unscrupulous ‘Ray Peat’, working in a top-down backwards manner…you surely see the issue here. Copper….a parsimonious term, I am sure you would agree. I observe that he now allies himself with Jason Hommel on many things copper…oh dear. Remember that ego is the enemy….and half of these people seek notoriety and fame ahead of going fully down the rabbit hole, not realising the extensive warren system that they are blind to. Having said that, I appreciate your good self, and a handful of others. The unfortunate thing about TH-cam, is that it encourages people to churn out content…where that be pure truth or diversion. Most goyim are unable to discern and so follow, spending money that they don’t have due to their aspirations for health and to find their saviour. It can be quite cultish