DERMATOLOGIST REVIEWS TIMELESS SKINCARE SERUMS
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- DERMATOLOGIST REVIEWS TIMELESS SKINCARE SERUMS @DrDrayzday Timeless skincare Vitamin C serum review • Timeless Skin Care Vit...
Timeless Skincare Coenzyme Q10 serum amzn.to/3CN91Xc
Timeless Skincare Hyaluronic acid + Vitamin C serum amzn.to/3RoDQ8U
Timeless Skincare Matrixyl Synthe'6 Serum amzn.to/3wIEeqD
Timeless Skincare Vitamin B5 hydration serum amzn.to/3KxK97G
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0:00 Timeless Skincare serums review
0:21 How to use Timeless Skincare serums
1:05 Timeless Skincare Coenzyme Q10 Serum Review
5:57 Timeless Skincare Hyaluronic Acid + Vitamin C Serum Review
7:40 Timeless Skincare Matrixyl 3000 Serum Review
9:07 Timeless Skincare Matrixyl Synthe'6 Serum Review
10:31 Timeless Skincare Vitamin B5 Hydration Serum Review
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Timeless Vitamin C serum reviewed here: th-cam.com/video/Yx7yenQGDQI/w-d-xo.html
I wanted to love it so much but it burned every time I put it on my face 😢
I am very interested in your opinion of StriVectin Super C. I have Timeless and SV and alternate using them. A commenter told me SV was garbage. It sure makes my skin look great and I love using it.
Ive been using Timeless products for a long time, without really knowing if I needed all of them, or just one or two. Considering my age (81 years old) I hav a fairly good skin, though lately the wrinkles are coming up and are more resistant to diminish. I haven’t ever used Botox, or undertones any plastic or corrective surgery. My skin has turned more and more dry the last few months. I’ve used tretinoin 0.025% for years, at night, followed by Lustra 4% on some age spots on myface and hands, and moisturizer (the ordinary) and on top a little rose hip oil, or any other of The Ordinary oils. I leave rose hip for the night routine.
Thank u very much for all ur information and advise.
I stopped dying my hair, and I’m in the process of growing it out, and leaving my hair white.
Dr Dray’s viewers are the nicest people! I don’t think I have ever seen a nasty comment from this community. So refreshing.
Have you ever thought about doing a collaboration? You and Michelle from Lab Muffin Beauty Science provide the most scientifically lucid commentary on skin care that I've found. You're a dermatologist, and she's a cosmetic chemist, and I've really enjoyed the viewpoints that both of you are able to contribute.
Maybe one day!
I second this! 🤞🏼
Hope they do! Maybe even create a skincare line together?!
That’s my dream
What a great idea.
I've been using several Timeless products for the last 8 years. They have great sales several times a year, so there is no need to ever pay full price. Thank you for the information..MaryEllen
Thanks for the sales tip 👍🏼
Great Info, MaryEllen. Any Timeless link?😊
I just learned that even with their sales, you can find the products cheaper at Target!
@@JohannaHaggstrom Yes, but it's Target online only!
@@JohannaHaggstrom wow, I had no idea Target sold Timeless serums online...THANK YOU, Johanna, for that info - I will look into it.
Thank you so much for trying our products, Dr. Dray! We love your videos, and would like to send you our other products! We reached out via email, and hope to hear from you soon.💎
Made my 1st purchase yesterday (40% off sale!) & I'm looking forward to trying my products out! I have the Coenzyme Q10 & Matrixell Synth 6. 👋☺️👍
I've been using Timeless since 2018 and have been comentng to these skinfluencers to try Timeless. Especially the Vit C and the Synthe 6.
Combining Synthe 6 with argeriline is amazing.
Amazed at how well timeless vitamin c works! Thanks for reviewing! Hope you and your mom are doing well! I've recently binge watched and hoping she recovered from cancer.
I have been using Timeless for years, ever since I first heard Angie talk about them. The ones I use daily are the Coenzyme Q10, the Matrixyl Synthe 6, and the Hyaluronic Acid. I also use moisturizer and sunscreen of course. I've been using the hyaluronic acid on my hands as well because I'm 67 and my hands are not great; it seems to be helping but I think my face looks pretty good for 67. I used to use their Vitamin C serum but I found I like the Maelove Glow Maker serum much more; when I first started using that, the difference was extraordinary. I buy all my Timeless products in the big bottles and put some into smaller bottles to make it more convenient for my tiny bathroom.
I hope Timeless has given Angie adequate recognition and compensation, because I swear she got ALL of her viewers hooked on their products!😆❤️
Hi, please dont decant your products. I believe that it can reduce their efficacy.
@@vasudhaharish3651 thanks for the info.
@@vasudhaharish3651 You believe or know? And why would it reduce efficacy?
I also started using after hearing Angie talk about them. I use the the Coenzyme Q10, the Matrixyl Synthe 6, the Hyaluronic Acid and the Vitamin C serum. I was going to try the Maelove Glow Maker Vit C serum and just saw your comment so am going to :)
For the past 3 years, I have consistently used Timeless C along with CoQ10 in morning routine and Matrixyl Synthe 6 in evening with good results. I believe these products along with my other “actives” I use PM, have really improved my skin texture and reduced pores and wrinkles. I will turn 70 in January and feel pretty good about how I look! Now if I could just find the magic bullet for saggy body skin! LOL!!
Which active ingredients do you use? Retinol ?
I appreciate their transparency on how much % they have on certain actives that others don’t, like CoQ10
Enjoyed the review on these products. Thanks, Dr Dray! Happy Wednesday!! Have a relaxing evening. 💗
Thank you for the great info Dr. Dray. I have used the vitamin C and Coenzyme Q10 and have been very pleased with both of them. I love your thorough information it has helped me so much with my skincare routine. Thank you!
I wish I had discovered Timeless sooner. I just started using their Vitamin C serum and COQ10 serums, alternating between the two every other morning and I am really impressed. Although I don’t have any fine lines or wrinkles, I’m turning 40 next week, so I’ve been looking for daytime serums that’ll really address the issues I’m likely to face in my 40s (although my tretinoin helps me in that aspect, which I’ve been using faithfully since my 20s, thus no wrinkles).
Previously I was using a vitamin c serum from Foxbrim and Instanatural which weren’t terrible, but are unlikely to benefit my skin much once I get into my 40s. Enter, the timeless COQ10 and Vitamin CE Serums. I’ve been very happy with these Timeless products. I have noticed an instant glow upon use that lasts throughout the entire day. In addition, I’ve noticed a significant reduction in my hyperpigmentation. I believe these serums along with my use of Paula’s Choice Omega Moisturizer and the Stratia Liquid Gold moisturizer just makes my skin extra Dewey. This is the skin I wish I had in my 20s but better late than never🤷🏾♀️
Thank you, thank you, thank you for clearing up some of the confusion for me! I've used Timeless C + E (10%) for about a year now and was questioning whether or not it was worth adding a serum. There are so-o-o many!
Hi Dr. Dray. This is the best review of the Timeless serums I’ve ever heard. Thank you. Enjoying your informative and honest videos from Malaysia!🌹
LOVE Timeless products! They always have amazing sales on almost every holiday! Black Friday is my stock up day! Won’t be without the CoQ10 or the Synthe 6.
Great in-depth analysis of these products! Hope you're having a great day! See you tomorrow
I use the co Q10 in the am, over their vitamin c, and use the matryxl synthe 6 in the evening. Same combo for 6 years. Wouldn’t change it.💜💜
I absolutely love the Timeless products. I use the Vitamin C, CoQ10 and Matrixyl Synthe 6. My skin significantly improved after using them. They always have sales and I buy the 4 oz bottles of the peptides (not the Vit C) and it winds up being really reasonable. I just pour it into the 1 oz bottle and store the larger bottles so I don't have huge bottles in my drawer. Works beautifully!
The Matrixyl 3000 and CoQ10 are my favorites
Been using the co Q 10 and the synthe6 for years in my eye area and neck in addition to retin A. Keeps my eye area very well moisturized and make my lines less noticeable. I can’t tolerate Vit C but did try their Vit c in the hopes it would work for me but alas, no luck. I am VERY happy with their other products. I like them better than The Ordinary, which is cheaper.
Thank you for this review. Been using Timeless vitamin C for years now with great results.
That synth6 looks tempting!
Really love trying new products!!!
I like peptides, I use the Buffet and their Arg, they seem to be pretty good!
I use the Synthe 6 with argeriline. Works well. It softened a fairly deep forehead wrinkle, I believe.
I have been using Timeless Vitamin C followed by CoQ10 in the mornings and Matrixyl Synthe 6 in the evenings for a little over a year. I love them! I also started using Tretinoin about 8 months ago which I did not tolerate too well until I added back in the Timeless products. After doing so, my skin adjusted quickly. I also try to buy the big bottles when they are on sale and reuse my smaller bottles for travel. I have very sensitive skin and these products work for me. I get lots of compliments on my skin and I'll be 60 in a few months.
Hi, I'm finally getting to watch this one and of course I ordered one of them! Good sales now!😊
I LOVE Timeless products! I've used the CoQ10 and matrixol synthe 6 am/pm for years and can't go without it! If you have dry skin, don't sleep on their squalene oil! I add 1 drop in my moisturizer in the morning and 4-6 at night... sometimes more if I'm slugging! Thank you for this review! I've always wondered about the science behind their products and always encouraged when an unbiased expert review shows that you don't have spend $$$ on good skin care!
I looove timeless. I use and recommend often the vitamin C and the Coq10
I have been using Timeless CoQ10 and Matrixyl Synthe 6 for a couple years now. Highly recommend.
I’ve been using Timeless products off and on the last couple of years. I love the CEF serum 20%. But when I first started I got irritated so I switched to their 10% and that helped me adjust. No issues now with the 20% and of all the C serums I’ve tried it’s my favorite. Mainly for the pump package helps it last longer and it’s so affordable. If I could afford a bit more I also love Drmtlgy CEF serum but wish they would put it in airless pump. Oh well. I’be been using the CoQ10 serum and the Matrixyl Synthe 6 serum for almost a month now and it’s just helped my skin look better, less inflammation which I have often, more even skin tone and plump and firmer. I’m sure in time I’ll see more results. But yes I love Timeless! They are affordable, cruelty free and made in USA! Win win for me. Could you get a deal with them for discount codes for your viewers? 🤩Thanks Dr. Dray for the video!
I love the serums in the pink and orange bottles. And the vit c
I definitely saw improvement in my skin’s firmness plumpness/brightness within a month of starting using Timeless 20% Vit. C + Timeless CoQ10 serum in the AM, and Timeless Matrixyl Synthe 6 serum in the PM. Since then, I’ve added tretinoin (I’m on my 4th month), and am now 1 month in using the Nira laser on fine lines & wrinkles. My skin looks better than it has in over 10 years, maybe even 15!
Hi Ginger, do you use tretinoin after matrixyl every night?
@@judithsisk608 , I use the tret first, give it a few minutes to absorb before I use the Matrixyl, then moisturizer.
Angie from Hot & Flashy recommended Timeless and I have been using it for about 2 years. I began with the Vit C and Coenzyme Q10. I later added the Matrixil., I am 59. I have very few wrinkles due to good genes. I did have sun damage and dark spots. The Vit C did help to almost completely fade the dark spots. I had several bad spots of texture and surface skin damage on my face. When I added the Matrixil those began going away. Love these good but inexpensive products. They have sales often and that is when I purchase. I appreciate your honest reviews!
As always, very informative video! ✨🌼. I use Timeless’ Vitamin C. I’m definitely going to add the one with CO Q 10 and possibly the Hyaluronic Acid. I current use the brand, The Ordinary, Matrixyl but stopped because my skin peels when using it.
This was great thank you Dr. Dray! I use the Vitamin C serum, and love it. It has a little bit of a funky smell that may be offputting to a lot of people I don’t mind it it has an excellent job definitely notice a difference when I don’t use it…
I use the VC20%, THE 10 AND THE 6...LOVE THEM ALL.
I've been using the Timeless Vitamin C and CoQ10 as part of my morning routine for over a year now. I've had no irritation.
Buying the Vit C and CoQ10 right now! Thx
I have been using the CoQ10 for several months. I’m on my second bottle. No issues at all. It’s hard to say if there is improvement. I’m hoping it helps over time with the rest of my skin care regimen.
I may add the Hyaluronic Acid. It’s in my moisturizer, but I think I could use the boost especially when colder weather is here.
I have used the Timeless C serum and CoQ10 in the morning and Matrixl Synthe 6 at night along with Cerave PM for over 5 years and I can't live without them!
Love your content!
I love the Timeless Vitamin C with ferulic acid, and The Timeless Coq-10 Serum. I've been using both for about 3 years (as recommended by Angie Hot and Flashy). I've definitely noticed a difference in hydration and suppleness to my skin. In conjunction with Tretinoin and daily sunscreen, I think the products do work. 😊
I use the Timeless Vitamin C with Ferulic Acid since 1/30/23. I have melasma on upper lip and two dark spots on left side of my face, by the eye and the cheek. Noticed today that they are lightening. I use Timeless Vitamin C in the morning and night.
@@ewally33 I only use it in the morning, and have been for about 4 years. Definitely helps with hyper pigmentation, but I've also been on Retin-A for more years than I can count!
What order do you use the vitamin C and Coq-10 serum
@@MarivelMendez I use the Vitamin C serum first, then the Coq-10.
@@reneklein6049 thank you! 🤗
Yes use Q 10 serum ! Love their vitamin C too
Gracias.buenos días dra.
thanks for watching
Happy Wednesday Dr Dray & every1 here😊thanks for all the wonderful vids 🌸😘
Same as a lot of the other viewers, I have been using Timeless Vit C , Co q 10 and Matrixil synthe for about 3 years. I really think it improved my skin.
I love Timeless serums. I use Q10, Vit C, Hyaluronic Acid and Squaline when I do face massage. No irritation! Great products and they always have good promotions on national holidays so I am looking forward to their Labor Day promo.
Hello! I use Timeless Vitamin C serum, CoQ10 serum in the am, and Matrixyl 3000 at night. My 60 year old skin gets along well with all of them… 👍🏼❤️
Really enjoy your content! Thank you! ☀️😊
Love the Q10!
Use the B5 after microneedling 👍
I’ve been using Timeless products for a long time with no issues. They have good sales so keep an eye out for those. My favorite product is the squalane oil.
They have great sales! And honestly their price point is better than some drugstore brands
Definitely get on their mailing list. Their sales tend to be around major holidays and they go anywhere from 30% to 50% off.
Do find the C has a weird smell?
@@bbaslp yep, smells like hot dogs 🤣 a lot of vit c serums do
So cleanse with something simple, the two serums and sunscreen! 🎉
I only use the squalene oil in this line when on sale. I love that oil!
I love the timeless products. I use the VC, COQ10, the matrixial 3000. B-5. But after watching this video after I use them up, I will probably stick with the VC and COQ10. I find it conflicting with differing opinions on when and how to use them all. I think it's best to start simplifying. I also use tretinoin at night. Great video as always.
I have been using coQ10, matrixl 6 and vitamin C Serum. I see a definite difference. No irritation at all.
All I know is that their B5, CoQ10 and CeraVe PM caused my Bozo the Clown rosacea redness to almost disappear (using 2x a day). It's been game-changing for me. Definitely look for sales a couple times a year when it's 40% off. Loved the video, Dr. Dray!
Love the Burgundy on you! Happy Wednesday 💕💕
Thank you! You too!
Thank you for the wonderful review! I’ve been using the Timeless CO q 10 serum for a couple of years and enjoy it for the reasons you mentioned - it’s lightweight consistency and spreadability. I tried the Vitamin C serum but it irritated my skin so I didn’t finish the bottle and never repurchased. I prefer a minimalistic approach to skin care anyway, so I like to keep it simple and quick.
I tried almost all serums from timeless. Never had any issues with any of them. My favorite ones are vitamin C and COQ10. I use those daily .
Hey dr! Hope ur having a good week so far
Will incorporate the vitamin c and e 20% & q10 into my morning routine , I was using the vitchy 15% which was great but it’s only 10ml and I live in CA which is like 45 for a little bottle that doesn’t last more than 2 weeks and might not be filled to the top. So will give these a try. Started using serums I do notice a little from just two weeks from the vitchy15% my face smoother and lighter , and I do use cerave hydrating cleanser before I use it and following it up with the cream, sometimes sunscreen if I am going out for the day
Just thought of another daily Timeless favorite.. their Aragon oil is wonderful! Very multi purpose. Hair, skin, nails, face, etc
I tried all Timeless products, but the one I kept buying was the B5, before I switched to other brand because its expensive. The B5 was very helpful at keeping my acne at bay
Thank you, I’ve been curious about these products & I appreciate your sharing this with us!🥰
I have thoroughly enjoyed Timeless serums! I use CoQ10, Matrixyl Synthe’6, Vitamin B5, 20% Vitamin C + E Ferulic Acid Serum, Matrixyl 3000 Serum. I always purchase at various times when Timeless emails me the best discounts, and I purchase the larger bottles because it saves money. Thank you for the video!
Hi Dr. Dray. I have used quite a few of these (I won a whole box of the products). In short I have been using the Vit. C for several years w/o problems. I haven't had any problems with any of the products as a matter of fact. No breakouts or pilling under make up. I am however looking for something for my under eye area as I have gotten so many more wrinkles and dry skin. So I will be purchasing the Co Q 10 serum, which I haven't used. *What I would be interested to know is which products are OK to use on eye lids.* Timeless is having a great Labor Day Sale 30% off through 9/06! Happy week to you!💖
Been using timeless for a few years now- vit c, Q10, and synthe 6. Use them all daily, so glad you didn’t reject them all lol 😂
I use the coQ and Matryxl- no significant result but it forces me to take better care with AM and PM routine. I tried their vitamin C at both 20 and 10% formulas, which irritated my face, in a burn like way. I had previously used Maelove glow maker with no reactions or issues except the price!
I’ve been using Timeless serums for at least 6 years now. Specifically the CoQ10 and the Matrixyl Synthe 6 and I love them! I use them twice per day with no adverse reactions. I use them mainly for their moisturizing capabilities after menopause.
I’m going to try the Hyaluronic and Vitamin C one too, thanks!
I use Timeless 20% Vitamin C + E Ferulic Acid serum in the morning along with the Coenzyme Q10 serum and at night I use the Matrixl Synthe’6 serum at night. My skin loves these.
Than you, Dr Dray, for this review. I love Timeless products! In the morning after cleansing I use the 10% Vitamin C with vitamin E and ferulic acid (the 20% was a bit too strong for me) then the Coenzyme CoQ10 followed by a moisturizer and a high SPF (50) sunscreen. At night after double cleansing I use the Metrixil Synthe 6 serum then my prescription retin A before finishing with a good moisturizer. I came to sunscreen and skincare late in life (after broiling in the sun for years in my youth). If you watch Dr Dray regularly you most likely already do this but for everyone else PLEASE, PLEASE take care of your skin! Skin cancer is serious! XOXO ❤️
I agree those 2 serums the Q10 and Hydration seem like the best 👌 for your money 💰.
This is great thank you been using some of these for awhile now! Can you do a review on maelove?🥰
She has a video on it.
Yaaaaasssss! The review I want and need. I love, love, love the Timeless vitamin C serum to death and I can't wait to see what she has to say about the others!
I use the Q10 in the mornings..really nice product...fells really good going on too..
I’ve tried all of the serums you mentioned and decided that I really liked the Vit C & CoQ10 combo. They are a permanent part of AM routine now 😍
same, plus matrixyl synth'6 for me
Which one do you apply first ? Vit C, or Q10 ?
@@annebrun4628 Vit C :)
Same for me. Vitamin C first.
Hi Dr. dray , I was wondering if you can do a review on itk ? It’s a new skincare product that they have in Walmart!
Love the texture of these serums, not sticky as you stated. Stopped using Paula’s Choice products altogether as they all seem sticky. The Ordinary is sticky too, as you stated.
I agree on The Ordinary. I gave away everything I bought from them, too sticky and unpleasant to use. I do like and use the Paula’s Choice Ultra Light Antioxidant Concentrate serum, it’s light and absorbs quickly. All the other serums I tried from PC were thick and sticky.
Dr. Dray, could you please review Neutrogena Sensitive Skin Serum Foundation with Moisturizing Vitamin-B5? This is the only foundation that plays well with and even soothes my type 2 rosacea skin. Thanks & have a great evening!! xo
If you haven't done it already I would love to see your review of Go Pure products.... also Ayurveda (Iyura,Kesaradi oil,and all of their oils and products)I am a retired ER Nurse lost my retirement from stock market incident, and on SS...so I need to buy good products that are moderately priced) You are wonderful, I love your in-depth explanations!! Thank you so much... your looking beautiful by the way!! 🌹
I have so been waiting for this as I use their C, CoQ and Matrixyl. Yay for a Dr. Dray review!
thanks for watching
Thank you 😊
I am using those two serums for a couple years. I have used all other serums and I agreed with Dr Dray those two are best.
Great review! What are your thoughts on skinbetter products compared to the timeless?
I use Timeless coenzyme Q10 & Vit C 10% (not the 20% because it irritated my skin) in the AM. It gives my face a wonderful glow.
I love the Kirby in the background.
I just started using the CoQ10 serum and I love it! Lovely consistency!
Have you tried the Ultra Violette sunscreen from Australia yet? I've heard amazing reviews..
You are certainly getting prettier. Love your teaching style. Thank you!
I really like the Coenzyme Q10 serum. I use it at night & then apply my Tretinoin cream over it. I use their 20% vitamin C serum in the morning & apply my sunscreen afterwards. Both products give me enough moisture without being too heavy for my oily skin.
Hi Dr. Dray,
First of all I wanted to say thank-you for your consistently awesome content. Your work here is wonderful and I hope it brings you as much happiness as it does for us!
I do have a question...
I keep hearing about people taking Metformin for health benefits, lowering the body's absorption of glucose through the intestine and potentially reducing the risk of various cancers, etc.
Have you heard anything in your circle about Metformin? I was curious from a dermatology perspective if this may yield additional benefits for the skin, being it can help control the amount of glucose in blood. This seems to be trending over various podcasts (I first heard of this from an Andrew Huberman episode and am now hearing it from comedy channels.)
Any thoughts from a skincare perspective?
Thanks
I believe metformin comes up in her video, acne diet, Sep '20.
I just bought the Timeless hyaluronic acid serum with metrixyl 3000 + vitamin c. I was going to pair it with argireline.
Happy Wednesday Dr dray and peeps 🥰🥳
happy wednesday
Happy Wed Reed enjoy your day my friend 😀 🥰🌼
I have used Timeless products for years. Absolutely love them. My skin looks 20 years younger than my age. They have great sales a few times a year. I think they are affordable. Love your channel!❤️
Dr Dray, YOU LOOK VERY PRETTY.YOUR SKIN CARE MUST REALLY BE GOOD.
THE MAKEUP COLORS ARE VERY COMPLIMENTARY TO YOU.
I use their Vit C and the Q10 serum. I love both. All of these products are for prevention, so we’ll see in some years how effective they are
I have used their Vitamin C, Coenzyme Q10 and Matrixyl Sinthe 6. They ship to Canada and their sales make it cost effective then, otherwise they would be too expensive. I would love to try Maelove but they don’t ship to Canada. Great review as always 👏👏👏💐
Maelove does in fact ship to Canada. Just received my anti-age bundle today (took 2 weeks by snail mail, however). I do use tretinoin but thought I’d give the moonlight retinal, glow maker vit C and night renewer glycolic cream a whirl. ☺️
Can you please review the Dermalogica Retinol Clearing Oil 🤗
Love this lipstick on you 🥰
Hello & Happy Wednesday, Dr. Dray 😊☀️🌸
Morning!
Enjoy your day 🌼🌼
Thanks a lot again, Doc! 🫶Again so helpful for deciding what or if to use! Happy Wednesday!🌺🌺🌺
You are so welcome!
Vitamin C gets all the hype, but CoQ 10 is the real hero. IMO.
I guess my skin is changing, but I’m finding that while tolerated the C 20% in the past, these products now irritate my skin. The B5, which I bought for moisture, dried it out. I don’t find any of these products to be moisturizing, but maybe I have to ease off. I use the Synthe6 in pm, 10c in am. I am 55 with dry-sensitive skin. Suggestions welcome!