This video would have been exceptional if it were longer. Could easily have been a 30 minute video with an in-depth technical breakdown of each position.
starting arm wrestling and trying to get as much info possible as i can and oh boy watching your video just cleared so many things in my head thank you
I don't know why your channel doesn't have more subscribers but this is the kind of videos everyone needs to watch I just started following armwrestling and I was confused every move looks the same to me except for the kings move lolll but this video explained everything to me thanks bro
Great content man, this kind of technical analysis is what we need for the sport to grow and develop! It is very helpful for fans to know what they are watching and also for us to practice and replicate moves used by pros. Keep it up!!
Did you ever end up making an inside video like this? This video was perfect and helped more than anything else I've watched. I couldn't seem to find an inside style video. Thanks man!!!
I was thinking the move I started doing 1.5 month ago was some kind of low hand top roll, but I guess its called defensive toproll. But I as cool as it is, it also kind of only works if you are given room to do it for me. Someone who cups well from the start, will eat the defensive toproll because there not compromised and someone that press could out speed you. That why I have begun to do more cupping backpressure, to just have a solid start and that is not a bad idea when I already have a solid cup. But the defensive toproll feels like if it could be used it should be used for me, because now the person has to follow you. Cool video do you have 1 for hook or press?
Thanks for the response! There are definitely gray areas where a move can fall between to primary styles. You'll naturally fall into what works best for you. The "inside" styles like hook and press and something I'm going to do in another video, but I haven't made it yet. Good to know that there's interest
imo the defensive top roll basically is a low hand toproll, if it was a high hand posting it would very quickly become offensive since thats practically king of the hill right there.
@@ryan_turner I am still hopeful that a hook/press video will come. Or maybe I shouldn't? Also, if you have watched the latest video uploaded by voice of armwrestling? (titled: Devon Larratt & Neil Pickup vs Mindaugas Tarasaitis: Part 2) They were having an interesting conversation about what hook is what not (beside many other very interesting topics). I would like to have your take on that.
@@44percentstronger It's still on my "videos to make" list that I keep, but it seems like a better format is the "How to hook/toproll like [insert pro]" videos I make. It's basically the same idea, just a deeper dive on the individual techniques, as opposed to giving each one a quick glance over like in this format. Inside still needs more love, tho, as I've only done Jerry and Artur.
@@ryan_turner I like both formats. With the "A guide to hook/press (inside armwrestling)" you get an organized view of the different inside techniques and how they relate to each other, while with the "how to hook like [insert pro]", as you said, you get a deeper view on a specific variation of each technique. If I could choose I'd like to have them both.
In your opinion, at 16, not being particularly strong in the press is normal? but I'm very very fast, do you recommend me to train this technique? and can it become my strong point growing up?
If you're fast, the press can be an incredible option. The problem at 16 is that your bones and connective tissue still have a lot of growing and conditioning to do, so you're at a greater risk of injury. Find a training partner who will let you SLOWLY train your press in various positions, and SLOWLY pull you out of your press so you get used to that too. Talgat is a great example of what a fast press can be: th-cam.com/video/V-fc4IZtejg/w-d-xo.html
@@ryan_turner yes, i’m incredibile fast but i don’t have a lot of endurance. Thank you 👍💪 When i don’t have possibility to do table time, resistic bands is good?
what's the difference between a defensive toproll and a low hand top roll? it appears the mechanics of the arm/hand/body are the same. by your definition, is a defensive roll not immediately hitting on "go," rather letting the opponent get the jump, then pulling him to your side with back pressure, a dumped wrist, and pronation; where as low hand is those same mechanics, but immediately hitting with side pressure incorporated as well?
Again, there isn't consensus for a lot of these terms, but you could arguably break a Defensive Toproll into sub categories like "defensive low hand toproll" and "defensive posting toproll". The "Defensive" part really refers to the idea of initially giving the center of the table in order to get more out onto the opponent's fingers. With Low Hand, you don't necessarily swoop to the side like that, and can just rip backwards off the go
@@ryan_turner Just watched your "top roll like Irakli," and "Top roll like Matt," videos. that really drove home the difference. great videos, man. appreciate it. you have a new subscriber.
If you watch Hutchings against Corey West or Ron Bath, you'll see that he's actually a hook puller. It's just that against toprollers he doesn't waste energy fighting for his hand and ends up in that classic flop side pressure. I don't really like calling "side pressure" a technique because it's really just a vector of force that can be applied in any style. So to answer your question more directly, I'd say he's a hooker who loses his hand a lot and doesn't care.
@@ryan_turner I actually would argue that he just like Dave Chaffee is more of a pronation side toproller, in the past hutchins was more of a hooker but now since he’s almost only facing bigger taller guys he’s almost always going backwards with his body and driving sideways with high knuckles and pronation
This is more professional than anything Ive ever done in my life
Whatup, Brad! Thanks for the kind words, trying my best
Obtuse did it for me
This video would have been exceptional if it were longer. Could easily have been a 30 minute video with an in-depth technical breakdown of each position.
Another gold. Don't force yourself to cut videos short. If it goes long it goes long.
starting arm wrestling and trying to get as much info possible as i can and oh boy watching your video just cleared so many things in my head thank you
I don't know why your channel doesn't have more subscribers but this is the kind of videos everyone needs to watch I just started following armwrestling and I was confused every move looks the same to me except for the kings move lolll but this video explained everything to me thanks bro
Great content man, this kind of technical analysis is what we need for the sport to grow and develop! It is very helpful for fans to know what they are watching and also for us to practice and replicate moves used by pros. Keep it up!!
Really glad you liked it! It's helpful for me too as I always learn during the research phase
Clear explanation of their distinction. Thank you.
Did you ever end up making an inside video like this? This video was perfect and helped more than anything else I've watched. I couldn't seem to find an inside style video. Thanks man!!!
This video should have a lot more views! Subbed and looking forward to your next uploads. Good content man.
Love it, cheers man. I'll def keep em comin
This seems like a really professional video,should have more views !
Great video now i know that I'm an posting toproller 👍
wow great video! You are definetly gonna explode on yt. Good luck
Hey thanks, it's really motivating to hear supportive comments like that.
Thanks for the video man! It was really helpful
Great video, Ryan!
Hey David! Appreciate the kind words
Pretty cool. Keep it up! Cheers!
I was thinking the move I started doing 1.5 month ago was some kind of low hand top roll, but I guess its called defensive toproll.
But I as cool as it is, it also kind of only works if you are given room to do it for me.
Someone who cups well from the start, will eat the defensive toproll because there not compromised and someone that press could out speed you.
That why I have begun to do more cupping backpressure, to just have a solid start and that is not a bad idea when I already have a solid cup.
But the defensive toproll feels like if it could be used it should be used for me, because now the person has to follow you.
Cool video do you have 1 for hook or press?
Thanks for the response! There are definitely gray areas where a move can fall between to primary styles. You'll naturally fall into what works best for you.
The "inside" styles like hook and press and something I'm going to do in another video, but I haven't made it yet. Good to know that there's interest
imo the defensive top roll basically is a low hand toproll, if it was a high hand posting it would very quickly become offensive since thats practically king of the hill right there.
We’re still waiting for our inside armwrestling family tree video!
Can you explain which toprolls to use against hook which toproll to use against another toproll and which can be used on both
Very nice 👍
thank you so much! nice video!
No, thank YOU so much for watching and the feedback!
Amazing video
Really appreciate it, Aiden. See ya soon!
I love this a lot. I assume you will do this for hooks/presses as well?
Cheers Lagia! You bet, then I'll combine them into a shareable infographic to help newcomers navigate the technique landscape
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Sounds awesome !
@@ryan_turner I am still hopeful that a hook/press video will come. Or maybe I shouldn't?
Also, if you have watched the latest video uploaded by voice of armwrestling? (titled: Devon Larratt & Neil Pickup vs Mindaugas Tarasaitis: Part 2) They were having an interesting conversation about what hook is what not (beside many other very interesting topics). I would like to have your take on that.
@@44percentstronger It's still on my "videos to make" list that I keep, but it seems like a better format is the "How to hook/toproll like [insert pro]" videos I make. It's basically the same idea, just a deeper dive on the individual techniques, as opposed to giving each one a quick glance over like in this format. Inside still needs more love, tho, as I've only done Jerry and Artur.
@@ryan_turner I like both formats. With the "A guide to hook/press (inside armwrestling)" you get an organized view of the different inside techniques and how they relate to each other, while with the "how to hook like [insert pro]", as you said, you get a deeper view on a specific variation of each technique. If I could choose I'd like to have them both.
Love it, hoping to see an inside family tree soon 💪
In the works!
You have this video for inside arm wrestling?
Nice fr
In your opinion, at 16, not being particularly strong in the press is normal? but I'm very very fast, do you recommend me to train this technique? and can it become my strong point growing up?
If you're fast, the press can be an incredible option. The problem at 16 is that your bones and connective tissue still have a lot of growing and conditioning to do, so you're at a greater risk of injury. Find a training partner who will let you SLOWLY train your press in various positions, and SLOWLY pull you out of your press so you get used to that too. Talgat is a great example of what a fast press can be: th-cam.com/video/V-fc4IZtejg/w-d-xo.html
@@ryan_turner yes, i’m incredibile fast but i don’t have a lot of endurance.
Thank you 👍💪
When i don’t have possibility to do table time, resistic bands is good?
@@ryan_turner can you make a video where you explain well how to train the press?
what's the difference between a defensive toproll and a low hand top roll?
it appears the mechanics of the arm/hand/body are the same. by your definition, is a defensive roll not immediately hitting on "go," rather letting the opponent get the jump, then pulling him to your side with back pressure, a dumped wrist, and pronation; where as low hand is those same mechanics, but immediately hitting with side pressure incorporated as well?
Again, there isn't consensus for a lot of these terms, but you could arguably break a Defensive Toproll into sub categories like "defensive low hand toproll" and "defensive posting toproll". The "Defensive" part really refers to the idea of initially giving the center of the table in order to get more out onto the opponent's fingers. With Low Hand, you don't necessarily swoop to the side like that, and can just rip backwards off the go
@@ryan_turner
gotcha.
thanks for the video and response!
@@Juneof1944 of course, thanks for watching and commenting!
@@ryan_turner
Just watched your "top roll like Irakli," and "Top roll like Matt," videos. that really drove home the difference.
great videos, man. appreciate it. you have a new subscriber.
@@Juneof1944 cheers man, glad you liked them. Thanks for the sub, I'll keep the content coming
Hey bro great breakdown, and do you know any armwrestlers in Missouri by any chance? I want to join up with an experienced club, thanks in advance.
Hey Kenny, besides using the armbet app (map of armwrestlers near you), check this site out: armfighter.com/clubs/
@@ryan_turner I have the Armbet app, nobody seems to want to commit unfortunately. I'll try the site though thanks
You seem knowledgeable about some of these techniques. Does Hutchings's technique have a name? Or is it just "side pressure"?
If you watch Hutchings against Corey West or Ron Bath, you'll see that he's actually a hook puller. It's just that against toprollers he doesn't waste energy fighting for his hand and ends up in that classic flop side pressure. I don't really like calling "side pressure" a technique because it's really just a vector of force that can be applied in any style. So to answer your question more directly, I'd say he's a hooker who loses his hand a lot and doesn't care.
@@ryan_turner I actually would argue that he just like Dave Chaffee is more of a pronation side toproller, in the past hutchins was more of a hooker but now since he’s almost only facing bigger taller guys he’s almost always going backwards with his body and driving sideways with high knuckles and pronation
@@ryan_turner he only lose his flexor but he never lose his pronation. When Todd lose his pronation he always lose.
havent started the video but thanks for making this can you do one for hook unless you have already
Hope you still like it after you watch! And yes, a hook/press one will be coming
@@ryan_turner yes good video imma show to my friend we armwrestle
@@will.armwrestle sweet, thanks for spreading the word!
Vitaly Laletin : hmmm ok I get it , low hand toproll,then low hand toproll and then low hand toproll
if it ain't broke don't fix it
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This guy is honestly pretty cute