Not necessarily, it could have been a case that Timaeus only accepted Atem, and not Yugi, and would have needed Yugi to prove himself worthy of actually using Timaeus.
@@Hacksaw_HIM_Thuggin atem only needed yugi as a host, timaeus could potentially only deem Atem's soul worthy, and would want to test little yugi to see if he was ready to take over for the pharaoh.
@@TheGLEGaming how are yugi and the pharaohs ambition different then? In this arc they both wanted the same thing, if anything yugi is more worthy because he wouldn’t use the seal
@@Hacksaw_HIM_Thuggin I'm not saying their ambitions are different. But at this point little Yugi still didn't see himself on equal footing skill wise as Atem, so Timaeus may see that doubt and want to test his resolve.
My theory on why there were so many misplays in yugioh anime duels was probably because they were in such a rush on time limits to finish on a certain deadline
Well a good few where born from the rules and a good few cards abilities being changed from the manga and because some duels were extended to fill more run time.
I missed your Yugioh What If's! Even if its less of a What If and more of a narrative critique. I liked Atem's character arc in this arc, it showed how far Atem had come from the "malicious spirit of the puzzle", killing his opponents in Season 0, to being willing to stop doing shadow/penalty games in Season 1, to finally becoming the man he was before he lost his memories, someone kindhearted, yet stern and fair in Season 2 and Awakening the Dragons. That being said, I also like Yugi getting to show his confidence and prove he's just as good of a duelist as Atem, so I would'nt have minded if The Pharoah had his soul taken and Yugi got time to shine.
I mean with we did see this: In Zexal when Astral was "killed" by 96 and so Yuma had to do things alone for a while. BUT I do agree Yugi needed his own arc and sure- we did see it in the last arc but Yugi needed this moment to show the kind of duelist he stands and the whole "successor of the Pharaoh" thing. I would have appreciated it.
This is one area where I think the dub does a better job in showing Yugi actually is skilled at the game. In the original anime it is clear Atem is the one making the majority of the plays, but I like the dub has Yugi’s thoughts be the one thinking over plays. It shows Yugi has an active role in their duels and at least makes it seem like they are using Yugi’s strategies while Atem is the one doing the plays. I think if the series was redone we would probably get more like Zexal setup, where both Yugi and Atem would discuss plays together and share their input before they made plays.
@@Jjop017 Yea, I agree if DM was redone, it would take a page from Zexal to show how much of a strategist Yugi like Atem no less we would see more duels from Yugi alone. I wasn't aware of that, that makes sense yes! Like how reckless Atem was during the DOMA duel against Weevil.
Yugi in reality was a major player until Season 3. The Noah/Kaiba arc changed the dynamic but during season 2, Yugi played a major role in saving Joey from Marik's brainwashing. Season 4 was Yugi's least active role but we start to see during season 4 how much Atem needs Yugi to stay balanced.
2:16 The only problem with this is it would sort of cheapen the final duel between Yugi and Atem, it would mean he already defeated him whether it was a filler arc or not. The whole point of that duel was to show Yugi could stand on his own so, by this point, he should still be reliant somewhat on Atem.
I don't think anyone would consider winning over an illusion the same as actually defeating Atem. To your other point, in the manga Yugi stands on his own a handful of times (vs Duke and vs brainwashed Joey), though I suppose standing on his own for an entire arc and defeating a major villain is a step too far. In that sense, I agree with you that having Yugi save the world here would've cheapened him finally coming of age in the final arc.
@@customcardguy Yeah, but actually beating Atem? I'm not so sure about that, it'd be weird saying you have to beat me for me to rest at peace and Yugi's like "Wait, didn't we do this already?"
@@VGamingJunkieVT He also wouldn't have truly beaten the Pharoh at his best. He'd be corrupted by the Orichalcos, and wouldn't have the puzzle, but yeah, I agree that it would cheapen the ceremonial dual.
It is an intriguing change, but I think the reasons you mentioned for why Atem had to be alone worked better for the story in the anime are what keeps this from being a full missed opportunity. In terms of giving Yugi more screen time and balance, I think there were ways the anime could spread it out in some of the other anime original story arcs or kept Yugi as the one who plays and defeats Otogi on his own. I think more of a missed opportunity is having Raphel beat Mai off-screen and stealing her soul. It would have been stronger if Mai joined back up with the group and worked to atone for her actions by helping them stop Doma. I'm not saying she needed to be the one to defeat Raphel, but we could have had Mai join in the duel against Dartz alongside Atem and Kaiba and been the one to play Jonouchi's Legendary Dragon and free Jonouchi and Valon from the Mirror Knights.
I like that hypothetical of Mai atoning for her actions. Personally I'd prefer if the 3v1 happened, it be Joey/Yugi/Kaiba, but this is an intriguing option too
I agree about that one. Mai vs. Rafael would have had some interesting dialogue to help flesh out her reasons for betraying Doma. Like, she would accuse Dartz of deceiving her and forcing her to fight her friends to the death, causing her to lose the only man who truly loved her. In response, Dartz tells her, "And what is that to you? Your soul is already the property of the Orichalcos, so it's too late for you to turn back. I can take your precious soul right now if I wish. But I'll give you a chance to prove yourself worthy of my effort first. Defeat Rafael, and I'll consider bargaining with you for Joseph Wheeler to be released." Obviously she still loses and her soul is captured anyway.
@@blessedphoenix6229There are a lot of fans that didn’t like Mai’s story arc. It made me think of Mai had time to atone and was given part in the final battle where she gets to save both Valon and Jonouchi/Joey and maybe even sacrifice herself for the gang, while examining her trauma from Yami Mario’s actions could have made this a powerful story arc for her character.
@@customcardguyI do like your idea of the main trio dueling against Dartz. I loved how this arc handled Jonouchi/Joey here, but seeing him get to join the final duel would have been cool too. What do you think about if Yugi was given the staring role in K.C. Grand Prix arc instead of Doma? Since the duels are meant to be fun it would make sense for Atem to give Yugi the chance to enjoy himself after being imprisoned for so long. Yugi getting a chance to duel the robot, Vivian, and ultimately Leon are ways to show Yugi is a strong duelist on his own. The main antagonist isn’t a mystic threat it still has fans question if Yugi is really on Atem’s level, which keeps the spirit of Yami Bakura duel intact.
For the fusion between Red-Eyes & Blue-Eyes, here’s my idea: Cosmic-Eyes Chaos Dragon Level 10, DARK, ATK 3600/DEF 2900 Dragon/Fusion/Effect Red-Eyes B. Dragon + Blue-Eyes White Dragon When this card is summoned, negate the effects of all cards your opponent controls. Your opponents set cards cannot be activated in response to this card’s summon. cannot be destroyed in battle by a monster with equal or greater ATK. As for the fusion of it & Dark Magician: Celestial Trinity Dragoon Level 12, LIGHT, ATK 4500/DEF 4000 Spellcaster/Fusion/Effect Dark Magician + 1 Dragon-type fusion monster or 1 LIGHT and 1 DARK Dragon-type monster Must be fusion summoned with the above materials and cannot be summoned by other ways. When this card is fusion summoned, reduce the ATK/DEF of all monsters your opponent controls to 0. Monsters your opponent controls cannot gain ATK/DEF above their original ATK/DEF. Cannot be destroyed by battle or card effects. When this card destroys a monster by battle, inflict damage to your opponent’s life points equal to its highest stat that it had on the field (if tied, double the damage).
I do agree that the Pharaoh's soul should have been taken to give Yugi an arc to really prove himself as i can't really think of one time he actually dueled a serious duel in the series except for his duel against Atem himself in the series finale and his duel against Aigami in Dark Side of Dimensions
Exactly, this is what people need to understand. The Pharaoh's soul alone would cause the Great Leviathan to stir, and Joey and Kaiba simply do not work well together as a team. Not to mention little Yugi isn't strong enough to face the Pharaoh on his own yet. Imagine little Yugi going up against Dartz. Even with Kaiba's help, he has no chance.
@@cameraredeye3115 I'd disagree regarding the Leviathan. I believe Marik needed all 3 god cards and the Millennium Puzzle to obtain the power of the pharaoh. With Yugi being the official owner of the Puzzle, I could see Dartz finding out he still needs to beat Yugi to actually get the full power he needs for the Leviathan to awaken. I've heard disputes the Puzzle wasn't necessary for Marik in the sub, but even then I would say the writers could still go this route if they wanted to.
If this happened, it would help yugi shine much more, people forget that yugi, not atem, is the real main character of the series, atem mainly came put to duel for him because he was the king of games, but in the manga, what was really missed out in the anime, had moments to shine as a real gamer, like when yugi played DDM against Duke, yugi didn't have atem by his side to play against him because against Duke, the winner was going to get the millenium puzzle as a prize to be the real king of games, spoiler alert, yugi beat Duke in the manga by himself, showing that yugi while always taking the backseat in games, actually learned how to play like atem, and win
And yeah, I know he had a few duels in the anime, like against rebecca but that was a filler, he technically won, but instead conceded to rebecda in the end, so doesn't count! There was also his duel against bandit Keith, only thing is, that took place of yugi against Duke in the DDM game, and the duel didn't have a result as it stopped mid game! The only real duel he had that was adapted from the manga was yugi vs bakura, it was an awesome duel, and yugi beat him in the end, but I like the manga quite a bit better because it had a few moments of yugi being a good gamer without atems help, the anime really only gave him 1 moment
@@patrickzalatoris3206 I Like your input on things, though I have wonderful ideas that would change the entire series. For season 5, Zorc defeats the creator of light, Exodia Necross and everything else thrown at him til Exodia defeats Zorc, as Exodia himself isn't bound to a sickly old man. For the last duel of the show, the pharaoh throws Exodia, Destiny Board and the creator of light etc at Yugi, though Yugi counters each and every strategy and wins with 0 life points. That's only 1 of several incredible ideas I got.
@@patrickzalatoris3206 1 More is instead Kaiba summons the creator of light from Yugi's deck and eliminates Lumis, leaving Umbra defenceless and at risk of losing if he doesn't surrender. Marik then brainwashes Umbra and the rest of the scene's otherwise the same, save for Marik instead having brainwashed Kaiba's brother and Téa rejoining the two victors instead. Umbra then joins Lumis in the shadow realm and Téa watches the heroes engage in a 2nd sadistic tag duel. For the finals, they're shortened MASSIVELY as are the preliminaries, with Arkana instead as Marik's assistant and several duels cut or changing into 2 on 1 duels etc. For Waking the dragons, other changes include Téa defeating Weevil in place of Yugi and as of said arc onward, all duels in the franchise start with 5000 life points.
@@patrickzalatoris3206 Few other changes is Joey defeats Rex not with Time Wizard, though via equipping Garoozis and giving him salamandra post using shield and sword on Red-Eyes. In the virtual world arc, Joey's eliminated from the big five combined duel and Téa wins with Yugi in Joey's place. She also duels Noah with Yugi and Noah defeats Yugi via cheating, though loses to Téa. She'd also duel other opponents such as Panic, defeating Mai legitimately and Valon, who'd duel her cause of Rex eliminating Joey prior. She'd duel in the grand championship and win several duels there too.
Any fusion involving Blue-Eyes White Dragon needs to be battle-focused because that's how Kaiba rolls: by crushing his opponents with brute force. Red-Eyes is a bit more tactical to make up for its lack of raw firepower (similar to how Joey duels), while Dark Magician is a jack of all trades that's compatible with either of the dragons, much like Yugi's dueling style. However, because Kaiba looks down on Joey (albeit with a record to match), the two do not work well together. So here are the possible combinations: - Red-Eyes + Dark Magician (which we already have, thanks to Red-Eyes Dark Dragoon) - Blue-Eyes + Dark Magician (which would basically enhance the destructive power of the OG dragon with the arcane arts of Dark Magician) - Dark Magician + both dragons, which would either be OP or counterintuitive depending on the author's viewpoint
I think this would be great as you mentioned for the anime. I prefer the manga and enjoy seeing Stem's early personality along with Yugi's test against Duke with Dark Bakura giving his faith that he was chosen by the Puzzle due to how strong and great he truly is.
Well, i would call a Fusion of REBD and any Light Dragon like BEWD "Purple Eyes Chaos Dragon" then give it 4k Stats and a protection effect. And the Result of also throwing the Dark Magician in there i would call "Chaos Paladin", who has 5k Stats as well as both an offensive as well as a recursion Effect, in addition to keeping the protection from "Purple Eyes"
Oof, yeah, sadly true. Not only would little yugi gotten the spotlight he 100% needed but it could of been an amazing hint of his progress/better duelist than atem if he beat raphael. Could've impress kaiba too, and it'd be an great cliffhanger for next season about atem "darkness" - tho it filler, an epic arc but filler regardless -
This arc was so Illuminati-driven, it's like they don't want to hide it these days, but the directors of shows like this were trying to tell us something - that's real maturity.
While it would be cool, truthfully, it would cause the season 5 arc of Yugi coming to terms with being himself ring a bit hollow as he would`ve already overcome his need for Atem in season 4. I saw another suggestion for what could have been a cool duel. Mai takes Joey`s soul and speeds off to duel Dartz. Rather than finding her dead, it would have been very interesting if it was Mai, Kaiba, and Yugi vs Dartz. It would've given her a chance to actually and truly redeem herself and finish her plot off in a better way.
It also would have kind of spoiled Kaiba's respect for Yugi, as he prolly would have earned it when Kaiba watched Yugi beat Rafael, somebody that even the Pharoh lost to. Yugi earning Kaiba's respect as the true King of Games in the ceremonial dual is HUGE.
One thing you didn’t change that I think would need to be changed for this new arc is why they lost to Rafael in the first place. I like having Yugi lose his soul largely because Atem is the one to blame for the loss. This makes it more of a gut punch when Yugi suffers the consequences and turns the rest of the arc into a redemption story for Atem. If we’re making it so Atem loses his soul, I think it’s better if the loss is now Yugi’s fault. Maybe change it so, instead of giving Atem the Seal to tempt him, Rafael just plays the Seal itself, and the Seal’s magic somehow interferes with the Millennium Puzzle, forcing Yugi to take control, and he loses because he’s just not as strong of a duelist as Atem (at least not at the time).
I like this version of the story a little better since I like little yugi more as a character, but there's no way in hell the writers would write the Pharaoh out of the story. Kaiba and the Pharaoh are the most popular characters, and it's a filler arc where they can write whatever they want without worrying about the overall narrative, so there's no way it would have happened.
Yes but Little Yugi and Pharoah are the real team not Kaiba. The fans loved Yugi and Atem's relationship the problem was that after Battlecity they continued to push that destiny rival thing down our throats between Atem and Kaiba.
Hot take but this was my favorite arc of the series due to its hightened stakes for the characters, the world, and it separating yugi from the pharaoh to develop the pharaoh further. The couple of missed opportunities I see are 1. The second duel between Aleister and Kaiba. Seeing Aleister effectively quit and play a deck of his brothers action figures was way less compelling compared to the draw scenario where he impersonated Pegasus. 2. This is an overall series critique but there weren't enough opportunities in the series to let yugi truly feel like he is en par with the pharaoh in terms of dueling skills so the final duel feels like a real ass pull that's not entirely convincing (it's one of the few aspects that I think Zexal did a better job sticking the landing with). I'm not sure this would have been the season for it but your pitch to have Yugi save the pharaoh would have served this need in the narrative pretty well. I think another spinoff arc like grand championship or capsule monsters with a greater yugi focus may have been the place to do it possibly based on millenium magic, another occult force, or an internal quest the pharaoh has to take to unlock his memories for a time that let's us get more time with just yugi and the gang.
Purple Fusion Magician/Dragoon? Since Dark Magician wears purple and the Dragons' eyes combined would be purple...and Fusion Monsters have a purple background.
*Here's my problem with this:* If Raphael wasn't able to sealed after the duel with Atem because of him overcoming his darkness, then why was Yugi sealed when he didn't have the darkness in his heart to begin with?
I thought about that too as I was writing the hypothetical. I considered having Weevil defeat Yugi but the Seal doesn't take him because of the darkness. But to your point, the question is why did the Seal take him when Rafael defeated the Pharaoh. I think the answer is that the Seal disappearing on Rafael was because it was Rafael who had activated it. So it disappearing/reappearing has to do with the inner darkness of the one who activated it. That's why it still took Yugi since at that point, the Pharaoh's heart was dark.
Hmmm.... not sure about a name for all 3 aces but for Blue eyes and Red eyes, maybe 'Violet Eyes Dusk Dragon'🤔 Im torn on this because I really do love the idea of Yugi having more screentime and being able to take charge before the final arc, but on the other, I love what this arc does for Atem's character so im fine with either. But I genuinely do really like the idea of have Joey included in the final battle with Dartz. I think THAT was a huge missed opportunity. Or, and hear me out, having Mai be the third "knight" in his place after she takes Hermos from him. I think Kaiba, Atem, Mai vs Dartz would've been interesting to see since at that point they all have something extremely personal to fight for
There are multiple problems with this: 1) Mai already belongs to the Orichalcos even after defeating Joey, so she can't use Hermos. Kinda like how the Pharaoh couldn't use Timaeus for a while after his first duel with Rafael because he played the Seal of Orichalcos and became infused with its power. 2) Even without the Orichalcos, Hermos does not recognize Mai as a "chosen duelist" so even if she tried to use it, it wouldn't work for her. The reason the Pharaoh could use Hermos is because he's not only a "chosen duelist" but also an ally of one. 3) Joey lost fair and square to Mai in their second duel so he wasn't making it to Dartz regardless. 4) If by some miracle Joey made it to Dartz, he'd only become a meat shield against a lethal attack from one of Dartz's ace monsters. Also Kaiba would never agree to fuse Blue-Eyes and Red-Eyes together.
There is a problem with your scenario. The dual between Yugi and Rafael can't end the same way, because Yugi doesn't have the Claw of Hermos to fuse with Queen's Knight to make Goddess Bow. Without Goddess Bow, he can't double Guardian Eatos' attack or attack effectively infinite times to defeat Guardian Dreadscythe.
Me and a friend of mine have a good idea you could probably try out what if Mai was in Yugioh R as we would get an interesting story with Mai being involved and her getting her own Evil God from Yako while being free from the Damage Marik's Game of Darkness and Penalty Game did to her in Battle City..
I think Doma was a good opportunity for Mai's redemption arc, although some may feel it was botched toward the end. In R specifically, I don't know if there's an opportunity for her to be redeemed per se, but you could probably swap her out for Bandit Keith as the mini-villain of the arc. It's an interesting suggestion though, will try to look into it!
I Like this for the most part, though I'd make a few changes. Instead, Kaiba defeats Air Fortress Ziggurat with Blue-Eyes Ultimate Dragon and Alister loses his soul. Joey Then Duels Valon and wins, though the toll he took during said duel causes him to be dizzy duelling Rex Raptor and Rex easily wins with all 3 layers of the seal. Yugi and Kaiba then duel Rafael 2 on 1 and Rafael defeats Kaiba, though loses to Yugi. Yugi and Téa then duel Dartz, with Yugi forcing a tie with Dartz and Téa at the cost of losing the duel himself. The Great Leviathan then comes and seems unstoppable, though Yami Bakura comes out of the blue and defeats the serpent. Earlier on prior to this, Rebecca, Odion, who instead works as Grandpa's assistant and has 0 relation to Marik loses a duel, as does Rebecca and Yugi's grandpas and their souls to The Great Leviathan. Of course, they're all free once Yami Bakura destroys The Great Leviathan.
I see you're a fellow Bakura fan 😈 Would've been REAL interesting if they included him in here, especially since Dartz was aware of his presence in the first place. Like instead of going after Kaiba/Joey/Pharaoh, he goes after Pharaoh/Bakura so they have to put their differences aside for the immediate threat.
@@customcardguy Well Yami Bakura's the main villain in the show. My ideas would shorten battle city by MANY episodes and lengthen better arcs a LOT. My plan was Rex Raptor would use all 3 layers of the seal with Joey and defeat him, though Alister would instead go down 1st of the 7 with him defeating Critias and losing to Blue-Eyes Ultimate Dragon, which would defeat Alister's Air Fortress Ziggurat.
Duke wouldn't be able to push Rebecca out of the seal. The seal *traps* the duel's participants inside while it's active, it's impossible to escape it unless you can somehow get it off the field or have an Orichalcos Stone, which Duke did not have. Also, I'm pretty sure Valon not using the Seal against Duke and Rebecca had nothing to do with Yugi or the Pharaoh. Same goes for Mai coming to her senses in her duel against Joey.
I more so based it on Yugi pushing Atem out of the way in the original, but Rebecca surviving or not is inconsequential to this scenario. Just giving Duke some time to shine lol To the other points, they wouldn't directly be influenced by Atem having lost his soul, but they are indirectly related to Yugi's development. For example, if Joey keeps his soul, then he can join forces with Yugi against Dartz. Then Yugi sees Joey go down right before his eyes (as well as Kaiba), leaving him alone, and that's something he has to overcome. As a result of Joey not having lost to Mai, Duke losing his soul was added here to give a 4th face on the Mirror Knights since in this scenario, Joey hasn't lost his soul yet.
@@customcardguy Yugi and Atem share a body. Atem wasn't physically pushed out of the seal, Yugi just changed who the seal took. The only reason we "see" Yugi pushing Atem out is to show that Yugi is sacrificing himself for Atem. I'm still not sure that Joey vs Mai would change. IIRC, Joey's goal in that duel was specifically to get Mai to snap out of it and come back to her senses, and I might be missing something, but I'm just not seeing how Atem being sealed instead of Yugi would change what happened in it.
I understand that Yugi and Atem share a body lol. Again, it's based on the same concept. The takeaway is that the Orichalcos doesn't necessarily take all souls involved, just 1 would be sufficient. But again, this point is inconsequential and not worth debating. Doesn't matter if Rebecca is taken or not. Atem losing his soul does not directly impact the Joey-Mai arc. But because Yugi is now without Atem, I think it would make more sense to keep Joey around and have Yugi, with his own eyes, see Joey lose his soul to Dartz as a mechanism for building up Yugi to finally stand on his own without help. That's why I changed that aspect of the story in this hypothetical.
@@customcardguy And I'm saying that the only reason it worked with Yugi was *because* Yugi and Atem share a body. Only one duelist lost, and therefore only one soul was taken. Yugi simply used a loophole of sorts to make it take *his own soul* instead of Atem's, which only worked because of their unique two-in-one situation. If both Duke and Rebecca lose a Duel while the seal is in play, they're both losing their souls because they don't have the two-in-one thing that Yugi and Atem have, and as such can't do the same thing Yugi did.
Sorry for being off-topic, but did you perhaps received any submission for custom archetype!? i filled the form, but im worried it didnt reach you.. ("Forbidden Ruins" archetype)
I addressed that point at 1:35, but it's also not completely true. Dartz himself states he needs more than the Pharaoh's soul, which is why Alister and Valon go after Kaiba and Joey. If Dartz only needed the Pharaoh, he wouldn't bother with those 2.
I think you have a point for sides story, but what matters is the reason. For why Yugi and Atem are overrated IMO. I think Atem has too much focus compared to Yugi, if it was balanced out more like, I would have liked them more overall.
Well they should then add waking the dragons and grand championship, though shorten battle city MASSIVELY. My idea for changes to the manga would be instead of Rex defeating Joey, Rafael duels Yami Yugi and Joey while tricking Yami into playing the seal. Timaeus And Hermos, then get sent to the graveyard, as the seal destroys all legendary dragon cards. Rafael Defeats the duo, though both Yugi and Yami are sent and Joey remains solo. Joey Then takes Timaeus and wishes to use the dragons power, though they won't work cause Joey was under the seal's influence earlier. He then loses his duel with Dartz, who comes out to face him personally and Téa, Odion and Kaiba take out Dartz's henchmen. Odion And Kaiba engage Dartz 2 on 1 and lose, leading Dartz to summon The Great Leviathan. However, Yami Bakura comes out of the blue and stops the monster, for selfish reasons of course.
ok so i think he couldve lost the pharoah then season 5 could be a split between yugis normal life and the pharoah readjusting back in egypt then the crew decidethey need to make sure he is ok and thrn the zorc stuff happens
Indigo-Eyes Yin-Yang Dragon-LIGHT ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ Dragon/Fusion/Effect Blue-Eyes White Dragon + Red-Eyes Black Dragon This card cannot be Special Summoned except Fusion Summoned and only by using its proper fusion materials. This card’s Attribute is also treated as DARK. Once per turn, if this card would be destroyed or removed from the field, it is not. When this card is destroyed or removed from the field, Special Summon 1 Dragon Fusion monster from the Extra Deck ignoring its Summoning condition except Indigo-Eyes Yin Yang Dragon. During the Battle Phase, if you opponent controls no monsters after this card has attacked, you can return this card to the Extra Deck. During the End Phase of your opponent’s turn, if all monster they control are Defense position monsters, destroy all monsters your opponent controls. ATK/ 3000 DEF/ 2500 Yin Yang Chaos Dragoon-DARK ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ [Spellcaster/Fusion/Effect] Indigo-Eyes Yin Yang Dragon + ANY Level 7 or Higher DARK Spellcaster-type monster This card cannot be Special Summoned except Fusion Summoned with the above Fusion materials. When this card is Fusion Summoned, destroy all cards on both sides of the field except this card. This card’s Fusion Summoning and effect cannot be negated. During the Battle Phase, if the only monsters your opponent controls are defense position monsters, this card can attack your opponent’s Life Points directly times the number of defense position monsters your opponent controls. If this card is destroyed or removed from the field, you can Special Summon its Fusion Materials ignoring their summoning conditions. ATK/ 5000 DEF/ 5000
The plot is based on 3 chosen duelists. If Dartz only needed the Pharaoh, he wouldn't have bothered with Kaiba or Joey. Dartz states this himself when the 3 swordsmen first decide who should duel who.
Nah, it would not work in my eyes. The whole point of Yugi's last two duels was that he was ready to move on from the adventure and live as his own person. If he just kinda beat Dartz to save the world, that would have been a foregone conclusion and done what people accuse the released version of doing: devaluing Season 5. However, there is an alternate universe where they could have given Yugi some quality content and they just did not take the opportunity: Reshef of destruction. That videogame follows your self insert and Yugi is part of the most useless JRPG party ever because he only duels in cutscene-contexts.
Actually I was thinking, what would make this arc still work and have Little Yugi still have room for growth is to have Kaiba be the one to beat Dartz, then he'd have some spotlight too Joey beating Marik and Kaiba beating Dartz could have completed the trifecta
If the Pharaoh's soul were taken, we'd see more Timaeus fusions! Timaeus wouldn't have betrayed Little Yugi
Not necessarily, it could have been a case that Timaeus only accepted Atem, and not Yugi, and would have needed Yugi to prove himself worthy of actually using Timaeus.
@@TheGLEGamingatem needs yugi to even exist, by virtue yugi is worthy
@@Hacksaw_HIM_Thuggin atem only needed yugi as a host, timaeus could potentially only deem Atem's soul worthy, and would want to test little yugi to see if he was ready to take over for the pharaoh.
@@TheGLEGaming how are yugi and the pharaohs ambition different then? In this arc they both wanted the same thing, if anything yugi is more worthy because he wouldn’t use the seal
@@Hacksaw_HIM_Thuggin I'm not saying their ambitions are different. But at this point little Yugi still didn't see himself on equal footing skill wise as Atem, so Timaeus may see that doubt and want to test his resolve.
I've been thinking this same plot change for a long time. This would have been a huge character development for Yugi.
My theory on why there were so many misplays in yugioh anime duels was probably because they were in such a rush on time limits to finish on a certain deadline
I mean, all of og yugioh had some pretty silly plays. More so for the entertainment factor.
Ah yeah, the multi-media franchise curse
Well a good few where born from the rules and a good few cards abilities being changed from the manga and because some duels were extended to fill more run time.
I missed your Yugioh What If's! Even if its less of a What If and more of a narrative critique.
I liked Atem's character arc in this arc, it showed how far Atem had come from the "malicious spirit of the puzzle", killing his opponents in Season 0, to being willing to stop doing shadow/penalty games in Season 1, to finally becoming the man he was before he lost his memories, someone kindhearted, yet stern and fair in Season 2 and Awakening the Dragons.
That being said, I also like Yugi getting to show his confidence and prove he's just as good of a duelist as Atem, so I would'nt have minded if The Pharoah had his soul taken and Yugi got time to shine.
I mean with we did see this: In Zexal when Astral was "killed" by 96 and so Yuma had to do things alone for a while. BUT I do agree Yugi needed his own arc and sure- we did see it in the last arc but Yugi needed this moment to show the kind of duelist he stands and the whole "successor of the Pharaoh" thing. I would have appreciated it.
This is one area where I think the dub does a better job in showing Yugi actually is skilled at the game. In the original anime it is clear Atem is the one making the majority of the plays, but I like the dub has Yugi’s thoughts be the one thinking over plays. It shows Yugi has an active role in their duels and at least makes it seem like they are using Yugi’s strategies while Atem is the one doing the plays.
I think if the series was redone we would probably get more like Zexal setup, where both Yugi and Atem would discuss plays together and share their input before they made plays.
@@Jjop017 Yea, I agree if DM was redone, it would take a page from Zexal to show how much of a strategist Yugi like Atem no less we would see more duels from Yugi alone.
I wasn't aware of that, that makes sense yes! Like how reckless Atem was during the DOMA duel against Weevil.
Let's be real, the pharaoh was the real main character of the show. Little Yugi felt like an NPC most of the time
Yugi in reality was a major player until Season 3. The Noah/Kaiba arc changed the dynamic but during season 2, Yugi played a major role in saving Joey from Marik's brainwashing.
Season 4 was Yugi's least active role but we start to see during season 4 how much Atem needs Yugi to stay balanced.
2:16 The only problem with this is it would sort of cheapen the final duel between Yugi and Atem, it would mean he already defeated him whether it was a filler arc or not. The whole point of that duel was to show Yugi could stand on his own so, by this point, he should still be reliant somewhat on Atem.
I don't think anyone would consider winning over an illusion the same as actually defeating Atem. To your other point, in the manga Yugi stands on his own a handful of times (vs Duke and vs brainwashed Joey), though I suppose standing on his own for an entire arc and defeating a major villain is a step too far. In that sense, I agree with you that having Yugi save the world here would've cheapened him finally coming of age in the final arc.
@@customcardguy Yeah, but actually beating Atem? I'm not so sure about that, it'd be weird saying you have to beat me for me to rest at peace and Yugi's like "Wait, didn't we do this already?"
@@VGamingJunkieVT He also wouldn't have truly beaten the Pharoh at his best. He'd be corrupted by the Orichalcos, and wouldn't have the puzzle, but yeah, I agree that it would cheapen the ceremonial dual.
It is an intriguing change, but I think the reasons you mentioned for why Atem had to be alone worked better for the story in the anime are what keeps this from being a full missed opportunity. In terms of giving Yugi more screen time and balance, I think there were ways the anime could spread it out in some of the other anime original story arcs or kept Yugi as the one who plays and defeats Otogi on his own.
I think more of a missed opportunity is having Raphel beat Mai off-screen and stealing her soul. It would have been stronger if Mai joined back up with the group and worked to atone for her actions by helping them stop Doma. I'm not saying she needed to be the one to defeat Raphel, but we could have had Mai join in the duel against Dartz alongside Atem and Kaiba and been the one to play Jonouchi's Legendary Dragon and free Jonouchi and Valon from the Mirror Knights.
Agreed, and giving Mai time to atone would have been amazing
I like that hypothetical of Mai atoning for her actions. Personally I'd prefer if the 3v1 happened, it be Joey/Yugi/Kaiba, but this is an intriguing option too
I agree about that one. Mai vs. Rafael would have had some interesting dialogue to help flesh out her reasons for betraying Doma. Like, she would accuse Dartz of deceiving her and forcing her to fight her friends to the death, causing her to lose the only man who truly loved her. In response, Dartz tells her, "And what is that to you? Your soul is already the property of the Orichalcos, so it's too late for you to turn back. I can take your precious soul right now if I wish. But I'll give you a chance to prove yourself worthy of my effort first. Defeat Rafael, and I'll consider bargaining with you for Joseph Wheeler to be released."
Obviously she still loses and her soul is captured anyway.
@@blessedphoenix6229There are a lot of fans that didn’t like Mai’s story arc. It made me think of Mai had time to atone and was given part in the final battle where she gets to save both Valon and Jonouchi/Joey and maybe even sacrifice herself for the gang, while examining her trauma from Yami Mario’s actions could have made this a powerful story arc for her character.
@@customcardguyI do like your idea of the main trio dueling against Dartz. I loved how this arc handled Jonouchi/Joey here, but seeing him get to join the final duel would have been cool too.
What do you think about if Yugi was given the staring role in K.C. Grand Prix arc instead of Doma? Since the duels are meant to be fun it would make sense for Atem to give Yugi the chance to enjoy himself after being imprisoned for so long. Yugi getting a chance to duel the robot, Vivian, and ultimately Leon are ways to show Yugi is a strong duelist on his own. The main antagonist isn’t a mystic threat it still has fans question if Yugi is really on Atem’s level, which keeps the spirit of Yami Bakura duel intact.
For the fusion between Red-Eyes & Blue-Eyes, here’s my idea:
Cosmic-Eyes Chaos Dragon
Level 10, DARK, ATK 3600/DEF 2900
Dragon/Fusion/Effect
Red-Eyes B. Dragon + Blue-Eyes White Dragon
When this card is summoned, negate the effects of all cards your opponent controls. Your opponents set cards cannot be activated in response to this card’s summon. cannot be destroyed in battle by a monster with equal or greater ATK.
As for the fusion of it & Dark Magician:
Celestial Trinity Dragoon
Level 12, LIGHT, ATK 4500/DEF 4000
Spellcaster/Fusion/Effect
Dark Magician + 1 Dragon-type fusion monster or 1 LIGHT and 1 DARK Dragon-type monster
Must be fusion summoned with the above materials and cannot be summoned by other ways. When this card is fusion summoned, reduce the ATK/DEF of all monsters your opponent controls to 0. Monsters your opponent controls cannot gain ATK/DEF above their original ATK/DEF. Cannot be destroyed by battle or card effects. When this card destroys a monster by battle, inflict damage to your opponent’s life points equal to its highest stat that it had on the field (if tied, double the damage).
Purple eyes grey dragon, lol.
Celestial Trinity Dragoon is a great name. Also great effects for each fusion 💯
@@lpfan4491Magenta eyes grey dragon
I do agree that the Pharaoh's soul should have been taken to give Yugi an arc to really prove himself as i can't really think of one time he actually dueled a serious duel in the series except for his duel against Atem himself in the series finale and his duel against Aigami in Dark Side of Dimensions
His duel against Bakura in the World of Memories arc
@@shadowguy321 And Joey in the unofficial dual in battle city when their lives were on the line.
if his soul was taken here and there, game over Dartz wins
Exactly, this is what people need to understand. The Pharaoh's soul alone would cause the Great Leviathan to stir, and Joey and Kaiba simply do not work well together as a team. Not to mention little Yugi isn't strong enough to face the Pharaoh on his own yet.
Imagine little Yugi going up against Dartz. Even with Kaiba's help, he has no chance.
EXACTLY 😂
@@cameraredeye3115 yugi is the king of games
He already mentioned that in the video. Just a slight plot change but you should've watched it first
@@cameraredeye3115 I'd disagree regarding the Leviathan. I believe Marik needed all 3 god cards and the Millennium Puzzle to obtain the power of the pharaoh. With Yugi being the official owner of the Puzzle, I could see Dartz finding out he still needs to beat Yugi to actually get the full power he needs for the Leviathan to awaken.
I've heard disputes the Puzzle wasn't necessary for Marik in the sub, but even then I would say the writers could still go this route if they wanted to.
I legit had this concept a while ago definitely a missed opportunity and would of give yugi more spotlight
I wonder if someone has written a fanfic where Yami loses his soul while Yugi defeats Doma?
If this happened, it would help yugi shine much more, people forget that yugi, not atem, is the real main character of the series, atem mainly came put to duel for him because he was the king of games, but in the manga, what was really missed out in the anime, had moments to shine as a real gamer, like when yugi played DDM against Duke, yugi didn't have atem by his side to play against him because against Duke, the winner was going to get the millenium puzzle as a prize to be the real king of games, spoiler alert, yugi beat Duke in the manga by himself, showing that yugi while always taking the backseat in games, actually learned how to play like atem, and win
And yeah, I know he had a few duels in the anime, like against rebecca but that was a filler, he technically won, but instead conceded to rebecda in the end, so doesn't count! There was also his duel against bandit Keith, only thing is, that took place of yugi against Duke in the DDM game, and the duel didn't have a result as it stopped mid game! The only real duel he had that was adapted from the manga was yugi vs bakura, it was an awesome duel, and yugi beat him in the end, but I like the manga quite a bit better because it had a few moments of yugi being a good gamer without atems help, the anime really only gave him 1 moment
Well, and also won against atem in the ceremonial battle, but that was the very end of the series
@@patrickzalatoris3206 I Like your input on things, though I have wonderful ideas that would change the entire series. For season 5, Zorc defeats the creator of light, Exodia Necross and everything else thrown at him til Exodia defeats Zorc, as Exodia himself isn't bound to a sickly old man. For the last duel of the show, the pharaoh throws Exodia, Destiny Board and the creator of light etc at Yugi, though Yugi counters each and every strategy and wins with 0 life points. That's only 1 of several incredible ideas I got.
@@patrickzalatoris3206 1 More is instead Kaiba summons the creator of light from Yugi's deck and eliminates Lumis, leaving Umbra defenceless and at risk of losing if he doesn't surrender. Marik then brainwashes Umbra and the rest of the scene's otherwise the same, save for Marik instead having brainwashed Kaiba's brother and Téa rejoining the two victors instead. Umbra then joins Lumis in the shadow realm and Téa watches the heroes engage in a 2nd sadistic tag duel. For the finals, they're shortened MASSIVELY as are the preliminaries, with Arkana instead as Marik's assistant and several duels cut or changing into 2 on 1 duels etc. For Waking the dragons, other changes include Téa defeating Weevil in place of Yugi and as of said arc onward, all duels in the franchise start with 5000 life points.
@@patrickzalatoris3206 Few other changes is Joey defeats Rex not with Time Wizard, though via equipping Garoozis and giving him salamandra post using shield and sword on Red-Eyes. In the virtual world arc, Joey's eliminated from the big five combined duel and Téa wins with Yugi in Joey's place. She also duels Noah with Yugi and Noah defeats Yugi via cheating, though loses to Téa. She'd also duel other opponents such as Panic, defeating Mai legitimately and Valon, who'd duel her cause of Rex eliminating Joey prior. She'd duel in the grand championship and win several duels there too.
The three ace fusion or just any combination we haven’t seen yet would have been so cool. But I shutter at what there effects would have been
Any fusion involving Blue-Eyes White Dragon needs to be battle-focused because that's how Kaiba rolls: by crushing his opponents with brute force. Red-Eyes is a bit more tactical to make up for its lack of raw firepower (similar to how Joey duels), while Dark Magician is a jack of all trades that's compatible with either of the dragons, much like Yugi's dueling style.
However, because Kaiba looks down on Joey (albeit with a record to match), the two do not work well together. So here are the possible combinations:
- Red-Eyes + Dark Magician (which we already have, thanks to Red-Eyes Dark Dragoon)
- Blue-Eyes + Dark Magician (which would basically enhance the destructive power of the OG dragon with the arcane arts of Dark Magician)
- Dark Magician + both dragons, which would either be OP or counterintuitive depending on the author's viewpoint
I think this would be great as you mentioned for the anime. I prefer the manga and enjoy seeing Stem's early personality along with Yugi's test against Duke with Dark Bakura giving his faith that he was chosen by the Puzzle due to how strong and great he truly is.
Well, i would call a Fusion of REBD and any Light Dragon like BEWD "Purple Eyes Chaos Dragon" then give it 4k Stats and a protection effect. And the Result of also throwing the Dark Magician in there i would call "Chaos Paladin", who has 5k Stats as well as both an offensive as well as a recursion Effect, in addition to keeping the protection from "Purple Eyes"
Chaos makes sense. I feel like they'd change Purple for something like Amethyst or Violet, just to sound cooler.
Oof, yeah, sadly true. Not only would little yugi gotten the spotlight he 100% needed but it could of been an amazing hint of his progress/better duelist than atem if he beat raphael. Could've impress kaiba too, and it'd be an great cliffhanger for next season about atem "darkness" - tho it filler, an epic arc but filler regardless -
This arc was so Illuminati-driven, it's like they don't want to hide it these days, but the directors of shows like this were trying to tell us something - that's real maturity.
While it would be cool, truthfully, it would cause the season 5 arc of Yugi coming to terms with being himself ring a bit hollow as he would`ve already overcome his need for Atem in season 4. I saw another suggestion for what could have been a cool duel.
Mai takes Joey`s soul and speeds off to duel Dartz. Rather than finding her dead, it would have been very interesting if it was Mai, Kaiba, and Yugi vs Dartz. It would've given her a chance to actually and truly redeem herself and finish her plot off in a better way.
It also would have kind of spoiled Kaiba's respect for Yugi, as he prolly would have earned it when Kaiba watched Yugi beat Rafael, somebody that even the Pharoh lost to. Yugi earning Kaiba's respect as the true King of Games in the ceremonial dual is HUGE.
I imagine if they did leviathan would pop out faster, and the opportunity was considered moot to consider, but still we probably see the toy cards.
One thing you didn’t change that I think would need to be changed for this new arc is why they lost to Rafael in the first place.
I like having Yugi lose his soul largely because Atem is the one to blame for the loss. This makes it more of a gut punch when Yugi suffers the consequences and turns the rest of the arc into a redemption story for Atem.
If we’re making it so Atem loses his soul, I think it’s better if the loss is now Yugi’s fault.
Maybe change it so, instead of giving Atem the Seal to tempt him, Rafael just plays the Seal itself, and the Seal’s magic somehow interferes with the Millennium Puzzle, forcing Yugi to take control, and he loses because he’s just not as strong of a duelist as Atem (at least not at the time).
I like this version of the story a little better since I like little yugi more as a character, but there's no way in hell the writers would write the Pharaoh out of the story. Kaiba and the Pharaoh are the most popular characters, and it's a filler arc where they can write whatever they want without worrying about the overall narrative, so there's no way it would have happened.
Yes but Little Yugi and Pharoah are the real team not Kaiba. The fans loved Yugi and Atem's relationship the problem was that after Battlecity they continued to push that destiny rival thing down our throats between Atem and Kaiba.
Hot take but this was my favorite arc of the series due to its hightened stakes for the characters, the world, and it separating yugi from the pharaoh to develop the pharaoh further. The couple of missed opportunities I see are
1. The second duel between Aleister and Kaiba. Seeing Aleister effectively quit and play a deck of his brothers action figures was way less compelling compared to the draw scenario where he impersonated Pegasus.
2. This is an overall series critique but there weren't enough opportunities in the series to let yugi truly feel like he is en par with the pharaoh in terms of dueling skills so the final duel feels like a real ass pull that's not entirely convincing (it's one of the few aspects that I think Zexal did a better job sticking the landing with). I'm not sure this would have been the season for it but your pitch to have Yugi save the pharaoh would have served this need in the narrative pretty well. I think another spinoff arc like grand championship or capsule monsters with a greater yugi focus may have been the place to do it possibly based on millenium magic, another occult force, or an internal quest the pharaoh has to take to unlock his memories for a time that let's us get more time with just yugi and the gang.
What if yugi joey and kaiba got to keep the legendary dragons
Purple Fusion Magician/Dragoon? Since Dark Magician wears purple and the Dragons' eyes combined would be purple...and Fusion Monsters have a purple background.
*Here's my problem with this:* If Raphael wasn't able to sealed after the duel with Atem because of him overcoming his darkness, then why was Yugi sealed when he didn't have the darkness in his heart to begin with?
I thought about that too as I was writing the hypothetical. I considered having Weevil defeat Yugi but the Seal doesn't take him because of the darkness. But to your point, the question is why did the Seal take him when Rafael defeated the Pharaoh. I think the answer is that the Seal disappearing on Rafael was because it was Rafael who had activated it. So it disappearing/reappearing has to do with the inner darkness of the one who activated it. That's why it still took Yugi since at that point, the Pharaoh's heart was dark.
@@customcardguy That's a very interesting theory. I never considered that.
Hmmm.... not sure about a name for all 3 aces but for Blue eyes and Red eyes, maybe 'Violet Eyes Dusk Dragon'🤔
Im torn on this because I really do love the idea of Yugi having more screentime and being able to take charge before the final arc, but on the other, I love what this arc does for Atem's character so im fine with either. But I genuinely do really like the idea of have Joey included in the final battle with Dartz. I think THAT was a huge missed opportunity. Or, and hear me out, having Mai be the third "knight" in his place after she takes Hermos from him. I think Kaiba, Atem, Mai vs Dartz would've been interesting to see since at that point they all have something extremely personal to fight for
Violet Eyes Dusk Dragon is solid
There are multiple problems with this:
1) Mai already belongs to the Orichalcos even after defeating Joey, so she can't use Hermos. Kinda like how the Pharaoh couldn't use Timaeus for a while after his first duel with Rafael because he played the Seal of Orichalcos and became infused with its power.
2) Even without the Orichalcos, Hermos does not recognize Mai as a "chosen duelist" so even if she tried to use it, it wouldn't work for her. The reason the Pharaoh could use Hermos is because he's not only a "chosen duelist" but also an ally of one.
3) Joey lost fair and square to Mai in their second duel so he wasn't making it to Dartz regardless.
4) If by some miracle Joey made it to Dartz, he'd only become a meat shield against a lethal attack from one of Dartz's ace monsters. Also Kaiba would never agree to fuse Blue-Eyes and Red-Eyes together.
There is a problem with your scenario. The dual between Yugi and Rafael can't end the same way, because Yugi doesn't have the Claw of Hermos to fuse with Queen's Knight to make Goddess Bow. Without Goddess Bow, he can't double Guardian Eatos' attack or attack effectively infinite times to defeat Guardian Dreadscythe.
Me and a friend of mine have a good idea you could probably try out what if Mai was in Yugioh R as we would get an interesting story with Mai being involved and her getting her own Evil God from Yako while being free from the Damage Marik's Game of Darkness and Penalty Game did to her in Battle City..
I think Doma was a good opportunity for Mai's redemption arc, although some may feel it was botched toward the end. In R specifically, I don't know if there's an opportunity for her to be redeemed per se, but you could probably swap her out for Bandit Keith as the mini-villain of the arc. It's an interesting suggestion though, will try to look into it!
I Like this for the most part, though I'd make a few changes. Instead, Kaiba defeats Air Fortress Ziggurat with Blue-Eyes Ultimate Dragon and Alister loses his soul. Joey Then Duels Valon and wins, though the toll he took during said duel causes him to be dizzy duelling Rex Raptor and Rex easily wins with all 3 layers of the seal. Yugi and Kaiba then duel Rafael 2 on 1 and Rafael defeats Kaiba, though loses to Yugi. Yugi and Téa then duel Dartz, with Yugi forcing a tie with Dartz and Téa at the cost of losing the duel himself. The Great Leviathan then comes and seems unstoppable, though Yami Bakura comes out of the blue and defeats the serpent. Earlier on prior to this, Rebecca, Odion, who instead works as Grandpa's assistant and has 0 relation to Marik loses a duel, as does Rebecca and Yugi's grandpas and their souls to The Great Leviathan. Of course, they're all free once Yami Bakura destroys The Great Leviathan.
I see you're a fellow Bakura fan 😈
Would've been REAL interesting if they included him in here, especially since Dartz was aware of his presence in the first place. Like instead of going after Kaiba/Joey/Pharaoh, he goes after Pharaoh/Bakura so they have to put their differences aside for the immediate threat.
@@customcardguy Well Yami Bakura's the main villain in the show. My ideas would shorten battle city by MANY episodes and lengthen better arcs a LOT. My plan was Rex Raptor would use all 3 layers of the seal with Joey and defeat him, though Alister would instead go down 1st of the 7 with him defeating Critias and losing to Blue-Eyes Ultimate Dragon, which would defeat Alister's Air Fortress Ziggurat.
Duke wouldn't be able to push Rebecca out of the seal. The seal *traps* the duel's participants inside while it's active, it's impossible to escape it unless you can somehow get it off the field or have an Orichalcos Stone, which Duke did not have. Also, I'm pretty sure Valon not using the Seal against Duke and Rebecca had nothing to do with Yugi or the Pharaoh. Same goes for Mai coming to her senses in her duel against Joey.
I more so based it on Yugi pushing Atem out of the way in the original, but Rebecca surviving or not is inconsequential to this scenario. Just giving Duke some time to shine lol
To the other points, they wouldn't directly be influenced by Atem having lost his soul, but they are indirectly related to Yugi's development. For example, if Joey keeps his soul, then he can join forces with Yugi against Dartz. Then Yugi sees Joey go down right before his eyes (as well as Kaiba), leaving him alone, and that's something he has to overcome.
As a result of Joey not having lost to Mai, Duke losing his soul was added here to give a 4th face on the Mirror Knights since in this scenario, Joey hasn't lost his soul yet.
@@customcardguy Yugi and Atem share a body. Atem wasn't physically pushed out of the seal, Yugi just changed who the seal took. The only reason we "see" Yugi pushing Atem out is to show that Yugi is sacrificing himself for Atem.
I'm still not sure that Joey vs Mai would change. IIRC, Joey's goal in that duel was specifically to get Mai to snap out of it and come back to her senses, and I might be missing something, but I'm just not seeing how Atem being sealed instead of Yugi would change what happened in it.
I understand that Yugi and Atem share a body lol. Again, it's based on the same concept. The takeaway is that the Orichalcos doesn't necessarily take all souls involved, just 1 would be sufficient. But again, this point is inconsequential and not worth debating. Doesn't matter if Rebecca is taken or not.
Atem losing his soul does not directly impact the Joey-Mai arc. But because Yugi is now without Atem, I think it would make more sense to keep Joey around and have Yugi, with his own eyes, see Joey lose his soul to Dartz as a mechanism for building up Yugi to finally stand on his own without help. That's why I changed that aspect of the story in this hypothetical.
@@customcardguy And I'm saying that the only reason it worked with Yugi was *because* Yugi and Atem share a body. Only one duelist lost, and therefore only one soul was taken. Yugi simply used a loophole of sorts to make it take *his own soul* instead of Atem's, which only worked because of their unique two-in-one situation. If both Duke and Rebecca lose a Duel while the seal is in play, they're both losing their souls because they don't have the two-in-one thing that Yugi and Atem have, and as such can't do the same thing Yugi did.
They’d have lost immediately
Sorry for being off-topic, but did you perhaps received any submission for custom archetype!? i filled the form, but im worried it didnt reach you.. ("Forbidden Ruins" archetype)
Oh, there is a form for custom archetypes ?
@@dudono1744 in the descriptions of his custom videos i believe
i sent him my diceslingers, golem cowboys lol
@@DarkSymphony777 Found the link, sent him my Sparkwaves, a.k.a. the deck that doesn't get turns (and has a probably illegal field spell lmao)
@@dudono1744 sparks for game
Hey all, confirming I have received each of your submissions. I'll try to start reviews in the next couple of months but thanks for submitting early!
The pharaoh alone was stated to be enough to awaken the giant snake
I addressed that point at 1:35, but it's also not completely true. Dartz himself states he needs more than the Pharaoh's soul, which is why Alister and Valon go after Kaiba and Joey. If Dartz only needed the Pharaoh, he wouldn't bother with those 2.
I think you have a point for sides story, but what matters is the reason. For why Yugi and Atem are overrated IMO. I think Atem has too much focus compared to Yugi, if it was balanced out more like, I would have liked them more overall.
Purple Eyes Gray Dragon.
Atk 4000 Def 2800
No special abilities.
What if the yugioh tv show duel monster follower the manga ?
Well they should then add waking the dragons and grand championship, though shorten battle city MASSIVELY. My idea for changes to the manga would be instead of Rex defeating Joey, Rafael duels Yami Yugi and Joey while tricking Yami into playing the seal. Timaeus And Hermos, then get sent to the graveyard, as the seal destroys all legendary dragon cards. Rafael Defeats the duo, though both Yugi and Yami are sent and Joey remains solo. Joey Then takes Timaeus and wishes to use the dragons power, though they won't work cause Joey was under the seal's influence earlier. He then loses his duel with Dartz, who comes out to face him personally and Téa, Odion and Kaiba take out Dartz's henchmen. Odion And Kaiba engage Dartz 2 on 1 and lose, leading Dartz to summon The Great Leviathan. However, Yami Bakura comes out of the blue and stops the monster, for selfish reasons of course.
ok so i think he couldve lost the pharoah then season 5 could be a split between yugis normal life and the pharoah readjusting back in egypt then the crew decidethey need to make sure he is ok and thrn the zorc stuff happens
Indigo-Eyes Yin-Yang Dragon-LIGHT
⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Dragon/Fusion/Effect
Blue-Eyes White Dragon + Red-Eyes Black Dragon
This card cannot be Special Summoned except Fusion Summoned and only by using its proper fusion materials. This card’s Attribute is also treated as DARK. Once per turn, if this card would be destroyed or removed from the field, it is not. When this card is destroyed or removed from the field, Special Summon 1 Dragon Fusion monster from the Extra Deck ignoring its Summoning condition except Indigo-Eyes Yin Yang Dragon. During the Battle Phase, if you opponent controls no monsters after this card has attacked, you can return this card to the Extra Deck. During the End Phase of your opponent’s turn, if all monster they control are Defense position monsters, destroy all monsters your opponent controls.
ATK/ 3000 DEF/ 2500
Yin Yang Chaos Dragoon-DARK
⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
[Spellcaster/Fusion/Effect]
Indigo-Eyes Yin Yang Dragon + ANY Level 7 or Higher DARK Spellcaster-type monster
This card cannot be Special Summoned except Fusion Summoned with the above Fusion materials. When this card is Fusion Summoned, destroy all cards on both sides of the field except this card. This card’s Fusion Summoning and effect cannot be negated. During the Battle Phase, if the only monsters your opponent controls are defense position monsters, this card can attack your opponent’s Life Points directly times the number of defense position monsters your opponent controls. If this card is destroyed or removed from the field, you can Special Summon its Fusion Materials ignoring their summoning conditions.
ATK/ 5000 DEF/ 5000
Y'all just seem to forget if Dartz got his soul then the series would have been over and he'd have won since that was the whole point of the plot
The plot is based on 3 chosen duelists. If Dartz only needed the Pharaoh, he wouldn't have bothered with Kaiba or Joey. Dartz states this himself when the 3 swordsmen first decide who should duel who.
Even in fan fiction, joey has to be the weakest one.
😅
Nah, it would not work in my eyes. The whole point of Yugi's last two duels was that he was ready to move on from the adventure and live as his own person. If he just kinda beat Dartz to save the world, that would have been a foregone conclusion and done what people accuse the released version of doing: devaluing Season 5.
However, there is an alternate universe where they could have given Yugi some quality content and they just did not take the opportunity: Reshef of destruction. That videogame follows your self insert and Yugi is part of the most useless JRPG party ever because he only duels in cutscene-contexts.
Actually I was thinking, what would make this arc still work and have Little Yugi still have room for growth is to have Kaiba be the one to beat Dartz, then he'd have some spotlight too
Joey beating Marik and Kaiba beating Dartz could have completed the trifecta
That's fair. Saving the world would be too big a leap for Yugi in this arc, but some additional screentime would've been nice regardless.