Can you beat Emerald Rogue with only DARK type Pokemon?

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  • @MunkeeMazik
    @MunkeeMazik ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I ran some code to compute the best dual-type move for neutral coverage, because I thought your question was super interesting. There are no type combinations that have perfect coverage, but some come close. Here are the best ones:
    Flying/Ground: 1 immunity, no resistances
    Fire/Water: 0 immunities, 2 resistances (but they are both x0.25)
    Rock/Ice: 0 immunities, 3 resistances (two x0.5, one x0.25)
    Rock/Fairy: 0 immunities, 3 resistances (two x0.5, one x0.25)
    Water/Ice: 0 immunities, 3 resistances (two x0.5, one x0.25)
    Flying/Water: 0 immunities, 4 resistances (four x0.5)
    Water/Fairy: 0 immunities, 4 resistances (four x0.5)
    Dark/Fairy: 0 immunities, 4 resistances (four x0.5)

    • @balancemaster55
      @balancemaster55 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Where is bolt beam?

    • @MunkeeMazik
      @MunkeeMazik 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@balancemaster55 Electric and Ice don't synergise as well when they're a dual-type move compared to their coverage as two separate moves. Electric/Ice is still a pretty decent combination though, with 1 immunity and 4 resistances.

    • @Bruce_P-Z
      @Bruce_P-Z 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      thing is, water, fire, grass and electric are all not amazing becuase of abilities that make the pokemon immune..

    • @SerDerpish
      @SerDerpish 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I would have thought Fighting-Ice would have been the right answer. Guess not. Thanks for sharing! 😃

  • @bluedragoonomega
    @bluedragoonomega ปีที่แล้ว +37

    In all my years playing pokemon I never realized the eveelutions were special pre special/physical split.

    • @paul-mx1ls
      @paul-mx1ls ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i got diagnosed with auchrism

    • @luismanuellavin7186
      @luismanuellavin7186 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      That's exactly how I keep track of the special/physical types: every eeveelution + dragon were special

    • @awsmguy175
      @awsmguy175 ปีที่แล้ว

      me neither until wolfey mentioned it a bit ago lol

    • @cultofmel
      @cultofmel ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And then there's Sylveon.
      But to be fair, Fairy Type would *probably* be special.

    • @emilysmith2965
      @emilysmith2965 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Extra strange that Dragon wasn’t included since it was a Special type

  • @andyplaysgundam
    @andyplaysgundam ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The choice band at the end is icing on the cake

  • @Tacoassasin1
    @Tacoassasin1 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    10:53 I did the damage calc and it should be impossible for a lvl 25 Weavile to OHKO a lvl 23 Anorith with a 20 BP ice attack, even if the Weavile is max attack EV/IV, adamant, and +1 boosted, and the Anorith is -Def nature and 0 def iv ( max roll is 71.6%.) My guess is the Triple Axle does 40 BP 3 times (to achieve the same 120 BP) as perhaps it was easier to code that way for this rom.

    • @rticuno
      @rticuno ปีที่แล้ว +5

      No i've used triple axel in this rom many times and it acts as it normally does. It really is quite the mystery why it one shot there.

    • @Tacoassasin1
      @Tacoassasin1 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@rticuno Hmm, my next guess would be badge boost applying as that's still a thing in Hoenn and he already has one badge in the clip, but that's only a 1/8th increase in attack (not quite sure which stat it boosts) which shouldn't push 71.6% max roll to 100%. This is a real head scratcher.

    • @rticuno
      @rticuno ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Tacoassasin1After looking into that more the gen 3 boost after first gym is attack so that's a valid theory! Was stab in your calcs?

    • @Tacoassasin1
      @Tacoassasin1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@rticuno Yes it was, I was using Weavile in current gen since it didn't exist in gen 3, and using ice punch and modifying the damage to 20 to simulate the first hit of Triple Axle. I also tried it in gen 3 calcs by replacing a random mon with Weavile's base stats and typing, but the results were the same.

    • @rticuno
      @rticuno ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Tacoassasin1 How interesting what a mystery

  • @EricAssenmacher
    @EricAssenmacher ปีที่แล้ว +9

    That Pickpicket proc at the very end came in so clutch

  • @AEtherPi
    @AEtherPi ปีที่แล้ว +5

    What an insane final battle!

  • @carlo9167
    @carlo9167 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I think the two types wouldbe electric+ice, the bolt-beam coverage is huge

    • @shanoc5902
      @shanoc5902 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Boltbeam and Edgequake as separate moves are roughly tied, as when used as seperate moves there are only 8 pokemon that aren't hit at least neutrally with both options (you could argue edgequake is better as Boltbeam can't hit Shedinja at all, but I don't think that's exactly fair). However both of these powerful combinations run into a problem... Immunities. Any ground type pokemon would be immune to a singular electric+ice move and any flying type would be immune to a ground+rock move. From what I could find there is no combination of 2 types that don't either have at least one mono-type that's resisted to the combination of the two, or one type that'd grant an immunity to one of the types, so this probably ends up devolving less into a 'perfect coverage' question and more into 'what type has the fewest pokemon' question, then you find a combination that only doesn't cover that one type.

  • @solerockt
    @solerockt ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dude the pickpocket lady got me good😂😂

  • @lokiofspirit
    @lokiofspirit ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Guess it's time to drop my work and tune in.

  • @greytrainingrounds9344
    @greytrainingrounds9344 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lol 1hp and a dream baby that ending was clutch

  • @Credrayt
    @Credrayt ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I know I’m a few episodes behind, but I made an observation with the PC. Maybe I’m wrong, but is it possible that the reason that you didn’t get a curse was because you only had one Pokémon at the time? Or was it really just luck?

  • @pontos1453
    @pontos1453 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It’s not a good morning without you releasing a new video

    • @Typhio
      @Typhio ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I read “it’s not a good morning when you release a new video” 😭

  • @Mogri1
    @Mogri1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Can you beat Emerald Rogue with only WEAVILE type Pokemon?

  • @lewisgregory1996
    @lewisgregory1996 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    An ice and dark move doesn't sound bad as far as hitting neutral. Also, dark and fairy

  • @aurochtamer
    @aurochtamer ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Isn't the old rule that you can hit almost everything for neutral damage with a Normal move and a Water move? That combo might be good for coverage.

    • @shanoc5902
      @shanoc5902 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ghost, Steel, Grass, Water, and dragon types would all resist (or be immune) to a move that's both Normal+water, unless they were also part ground or fire. Normal probably isn't a good type for this as it won't help cover for any of the other type's 'not very effective' match ups and kinda only makes you worse into various match ups.
      Also as seperate moves, there's a total of 33 (if you include Shedinja) pokemon that resist seperate water+normal moves, which loses out to the famous Edgequake and Boltbeam combos (only 8 pokemon resist either combination).

  • @craigyeah1052
    @craigyeah1052 ปีที่แล้ว

    I haven't gone over every combo, but as far as hitting a single type goes, flying/ground only hits flying for less than neutral. Dark/Psychic comes in second, with dark and fairy resisting it. Ground/Fairy has three, flying, bug, and grass, but is generally stellar at hitting things super effectively.
    If we're looking to hit as many type combinations as possible neutrally then ground is no good because it has an immunity. Nor is Psychic. I'm nerdy enough to comment this, not enough to go into the whole combos vs combos research.

  • @TheBlackGunslinger
    @TheBlackGunslinger ปีที่แล้ว

    My favorite Contrary move is Skill Swap + Swagger :) teehee

  • @JoseTheAlolachu
    @JoseTheAlolachu ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I used Absol for my Dark type run

  • @palyername
    @palyername ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ok this might not be the focus of the video but the one off comment interested me - by 'low kick calculator' do you mean like a base power calculator? does the damage calculator everyone uses not calculate low kick/grass knot/heavy slam/etc move damage properly?

    • @connorhamilton5707
      @connorhamilton5707 ปีที่แล้ว

      I assume it doesn't.
      Based on what he was saying, the calculator he's using doesn't automatically fill in the weights of the Pokemon, meaning he has to manually adjust the power of weight related moves, and to do that he has to look up the Pokemon's weights each time. So it sounds like he's saying he'd like a calculator that automatically fills in the weights and adjusts the power by itself.

    • @360Chrism
      @360Chrism  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I just wanted a calculator where I type the Pokemon name in and it tells me the base power of the weight move.
      That way I can just choose the best move quicker :P

    • @palyername
      @palyername ปีที่แล้ว

      @@360Chrism that was what I thought! it's so weird that that doesn't exist - it sounds like it'd be super easy to implement

  • @jefforear641
    @jefforear641 ปีที่แล้ว

    Crazy ending dude!

  • @Ragnarakk
    @Ragnarakk ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Heeeell yeh~ love me some good weavile and this was top notch nail biting

  • @Onmur
    @Onmur ปีที่แล้ว

    Well, now I would have to pick Weavile if I did this.

  • @buzby6712
    @buzby6712 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I've really loved this series!

  • @ember5332
    @ember5332 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ice/ground hits everything for at least neutral I think. One of the reasons I love using Mamoswine so much.

    • @randomInterneter
      @randomInterneter ปีที่แล้ว

      It would miss flying I guess cause they both happen on the same move, but yeah Mamoswine is sick!!

    • @ember5332
      @ember5332 ปีที่แล้ว

      but ice is super effective against flying...
      @@randomInterneter

    • @balancemaster55
      @balancemaster55 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ember5332but an immunity is an immunity

  • @andrewhelt7704
    @andrewhelt7704 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    love this content

  • @Godofwar769
    @Godofwar769 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was a good one

  • @thebruffle
    @thebruffle ปีที่แล้ว

    can we get a singing pokemon only run?

  • @balancemaster55
    @balancemaster55 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bolt beam…

  • @jonathanhensley2079
    @jonathanhensley2079 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How about a 3 turn move with flying ground type. Call it dive bomb and start with a fly animation on turn 1 then attacks but goes underground and attacks again 3rd turn.

    • @jonathanhensley2079
      @jonathanhensley2079 ปีที่แล้ว

      The only problem with it I can see is that it's highly predictable once you start it

  • @jacobveryberry
    @jacobveryberry ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was waiting on this one! Love the series

  • @gradwhan
    @gradwhan ปีที่แล้ว

    wait... why was triple axle not super effective on beedrill?

    • @ChickenKhorma
      @ChickenKhorma ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Because it isn't supposed to be

    • @Jesthers
      @Jesthers ปีที่แล้ว

      Bug isn't weak to ice. Beedrill is Bug/poison.

    • @gradwhan
      @gradwhan ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Jesthers I thought it was flying type. oops

    • @Jesthers
      @Jesthers ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gradwhan A fair enough assumption, Beedrill does have wings. I mean, Beedrill looks more Bug/Flying than Scyther does, at the very least

  • @aghost5841
    @aghost5841 ปีที่แล้ว

    Spoiler shield 🛡️

  • @Razmatschannel
    @Razmatschannel ปีที่แล้ว

    Pickpocket 💀