Have We Won in Afghanistan? VICE Podcast 004
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ก.ย. 2024
- The VICE Podcast is a weekly unedited discussion which delves inside the minds of some of the most interesting, creative, and bizarre people we know within the VICE universe. This week we speak with author and filmmaker Ben Anderson, who has just returned from another trip to Helmand, Afghanistan's most violent province. With US forces withdrawing, most of the country is now under the control of the Afghan government and its security forces. This, it is officially claimed, is victory. Ben, and his disturbing new VICE film "This is what winning looks like" would suggest otherwise.
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Ben Anderson is hands down one of the greatest investigative journalists ever. His work is incredible
His documentary on Afghanistan aged like fine wine.
He was a top bloke at school
the world needs more journalists like this guy.
"as we prepare to leave" - 7 years later
I've watched soo many of Ben Andersons documentaries, to the point I've committed some to memory. Watching this guy interrupt him is soo frustrating and pisses me off to no fucking end. riiiiiieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeght right right right right
Well done Ben a really good job. You are a brave dude. I don't think many people would apply for the position themselves .
Short answer: no
Looking at this video a decade later, it's obvious to see that the failures in Afghanistan were obvious even back then. Why we acted surprised at what happened when the US left, is beyond me.
I look forward to his documentary. I saw the 30 minute version, can't wait to see his Vice version.
This man is top class. Hopefully, he brings more great , in depth docs to Vice. I think everyone would love to see a Ben Anderson documentary series. We will all learn something from his work.
is the interviewer going through withdrawl symptoms ?
Just hasn't had a line of coke for 15 mins
There's an honesty here that is rare for the media. Thanks for keeping it real, guys.
We've failed Afghanistan. Thank you for this video! I've learned all about Afghanistan now.
I just hope that Vice doesn't develop an ulterior motive with their growing influence, I love how Vice (seems to, at least) report what they see, no more, no less.
Andy Holcroft explain?
Bad news for ya bud
@@DWJordannn beat me to it lol
can the interviewer let the guest talk!!!
Great honest report about what's really happening in this place.
"What's the bazaar like?"
Bizarre.
I'm sorry! I couldn't resist! >_
Thank you for showing how a TH-cam Podcast should be done. good show.
This was nicely done, and thank you VICE for having him on. And TH-cam you are doing a great thing letting people put this online.
that major did got his military career shortened abruptly after this doc went live. Anderson too ended up getting blacklisted by the US military
Quick answer. No...
EXCELLENT INTERVIEW! I come from Croatia and I totally understand certain dynamics that are happening there right now.
Informative. But the interviewer is annoying in constantly disturbing the reporter.
The interviewer is one of Ben's bosses.
as an Afghan i swear the worse part of all of this is about to begin ... This is sad , like incredibly sad , this part of the world is at war since 5 centuries...
lol the terrible interviewer is Eddie Moreti, like the lead producer of vice.
And an owner, so Ben's boss.
Very sad to revisit this, Ben called it at 26:39.
No lol
I wish the interviewer would have let Ben finish his thoughts. Way too many interruptions.
This aged like a white woman
What do you mean?
Ben Anderson genuinely seems like a really nice guy and he is a brilliant journalist, I hope this documentary is aired on the Vice TH-cam channel and not put on their new HBO show again, because us European viewers can't watch it and this seems like a really important documentary to watch and I am really interested in the subject.
If that gay interviewer calls my people "Afghani" one more timeeee! That's the name of our fucking currency, not our people!
He also needs to stop interrupting the interviewee, sit up and learn to talk like a man.
Whats really bad is how many people will not see this and realize what is going on... Out of a nation of 311 million people, only 35,000 have watched..
You answered my question w/ a question, which in effect is dodging the question.
so much respect for Ben Anderson.
Really interesting to hear all of this insight from this guy. Thanks
44:46 - That "cool" fµcking killed me.
Lol, and his next question: “so… what’s the book about?”
Grade 5 Speech skills : Don't say "Like" or "Um". - Substitute Teacher.
My High School Speech skills : "Don't get high at lunch and come in here to do this interview Josh, it's important" - My Teacher.
This guy...wow.
Victory attained by violence is tantamount to a defeat, for it is momentary.
The documentary really bummed me out. It's depressing that in the common era people still live like the stone ages. That Country will go to shit once every troop leaves. "They say evil prevails when good men fail to act. they outta say Evil prevail. ".
i think theres a difference between victory and winning.
no one wins in war. but we are victorious...in terms of "getting our goals done" and the death to kill ratio.
Just when you think it's all gone. There is VICE. I do love vice even if they are occasionally skewed.
That is the bravest journalist I have ever seen.
They had their reasons too in the 19th century wars in Afghanistan, but that doesn't mean they could have expected the war to go like this
Thank you, host sounded high.
I don't think you guys understand how much experience Ben Anderson has....
What he is saying is not political or biased in any way. Its fact, seen by him and by us with the riveting documentaries he have done. Ill take this Bens opinion over any politician or general any day.
The dude is trying to explain and the interviewer just interupts him with the question hes in the process of answering
Just curious, but wouldn't it make more sense to do the podcast after the premier of the documentary? Unless you guys are releasing it tomorrow. He has all the info, I was in the Army in Iraq and had a lot of friends that went to Afghanistan. Sense it is a full movie I'm going to assume that this will have to be on the TH-cam channel as the Vice episodes are only 30 minutes long and have two stories in each one.
The more I see of this, the more convinced I am that what played out, the Taliban quickly and relatively bloodlessly taking over, was the best case scenario for Afghanistan when we left.
Ben Anderson is such a badass. Why isn't there a better interviewer on staff that could be more up to Andersons level?
its never yes or no. its 48 minutes long because its really up to you to decide.
Theres no winner in an inseperable war especially when both sides see each other as enemy and elaborate on theyre senses on what it means to be on the 'winning' side.
Do you have the balls to win when nobody's there to clear it up
According to a family member of mine who served in Iraq, the US government pays terrorist. He said most towns have some terrorists group within them and the government pays them to not be violent for a little bit and keep the streets clean. He also told me that the government was giving money to a guy on the most wanted list in exchange for information, but with that money the guy was just buying more weapons etc for his group that he worked for.
Where do I find the documentary he made in Afghanistan?
Wonderful to hear some actual truth about the situation out there. .Ben Anderson is the voice of reason and of the many who despair over the middle east war.
Ben Anderson is an amazing person
It can be whatever. The whole point is that anyone can access it whenever they want, however they want.
Is it the dead ones or the ones that lost limbs or the ones who lost family members or the ones who will suffer from PTSD???
Host cuts the guy off maybe 1 or 2 times in the first 2 minutes, then really never did again. Wish people would watch the whole video before they comment and like comments like this...
Nobody 'won' or 'lost' in Afghanistan. 'Winning' or 'losing' is a definition for the lower-class people.
Let's agree that others don't hate us but hate our government
I encourage everyone here to go see the video Economic Hitmen. It sums up the war in Afghanistan and Iraq quite well.
Where is a link to "This is What Winning Looks Like" the film? Has it been released yet?
This is a random point but I like Ben's voice cos it throws in some variety. A lot of Vice voices are the baritone 'listen to my growly relaxed voice' type, and his is more horse sounding. Random I know, but it just sounds a little less contrived than the other narrators.
What about you let your Interview partern finish his sentence?
Ben Anderson is a hero.
This aged like soggy bread left in a gym locker
How so?
No of course you have not. Because: people have died in that war and the threat is still there.
I really want to see his docu now,
Where can i find the documentary they're talking about?
the everyday person will never know the truth about anything that really matters
As an American I'm embarrassed by my government and all the sheeple in support of it... corporations were never supposed to be the ones re-electing politicians and politicians were never meant to make politics their career... system is broken... must reboot...
Very good report but I agree with other comments; the interviewer did seem to kind of cut off sentences or mid speech from the interviewee; at least he wasn't that obnoxious. I found this informative and thought-provoking
Nah, he conquered them which is how he managed to get access to the Khyber pass and that allowed him to expand his empire into India.
I'm sorry but this interviewer clearly lacks any knowledge on the Afghan war. It's clear from his questions and style of questioning. But the producer of the documentary is an amazing guy. Much respect. Thank you Vice!
You just said someone lost, you didn't say anything about a winner.
Video doesnt work someone put a stop to this real quick
This was better and more revealing that the documentary he made itself.
Will the documentary be posted on youtube? and when?
I couldn't stop watching and listening this.
i agree with you, but isn't a podcast more of a discussion than an interview?
How very noble of you.
anyone able to play this video at 720 or 1080p ?
that doesn't mean it's a private bank. The post office runs the same way but they are government institutions. If you don't agree with the idea of a federal reserve fine but that's different than saying it's a privately run. I'm glad you feel so strongly about it but get your facts straight.
All i wanted to hear from this video was either a "yes" or "no",
Aint nobody got time for a 48 min answer....
The guy is 100% correct. The moment the coalition installed previous warlords like Dostum, the war was lost....
That guy would just talk about himself for two hours.
Ben is a True Reporter. Only one I've seen so far! Ben WE are watching and Thank You!
Is this documentary gonna be on youtube or HBO?
Ben Anderson is the man.
just came here to say thumbnail looks a lot like michael j fox *heavy breathing* lol
it's cause he has a few issues/questions to address in a limited time, if he'd let him finish every sentence he'd only get to address less then half of what is his job to address.
Trifio....the man who never backed down
What's this world coming to? There are a lot of things in this world that are just fucked up and so depressing, I don't even know anymore. I still have hope that in the end there will still be good, and hopefully the good will prevail.
Our gas is still over $3 a gallon and batteries are still $15 for a 3 pack of watch batteries. If we "win" those prices should be cut in half..Most people only hear about the oil over there, conveniently nothing is said about the astronomical amounts of lithium.
I agree. It seemed like he want to make it more about him than his guest.
the words won and war can never be compatible
I love to see that someone notices that the Taliban aren't the MAIN problem right now, and we just deal with them because we have to.
Win or lose...wtf?! Lose of human lives is not a game neither is war..
He's in the room with the guys doing the podcast. A few seconds in you can see that Moretti's reflection is between invisible man's and the glass.
has the new doc been released yet? Where is it?
yes, i agree, the interviewer is REALLY ANNOYING.