OMG you are a LIFE SAVER! Idk why I didn't think of that, I've used a hair dryer with stretch adhesives and stuff before! Check the description I added your tip and credited you. I also added it to my other newer KIWI review if you wanna see that here: th-cam.com/video/Z31D_2GW3F0/w-d-xo.html THANK YOU SO MUCH!
nice. did something similar - I used 3M velcro tabs to attach the processor box to the wall, 3m hooks on the ceiling and $2 zip-type key rings from walmart. total cost - about $15 CAD. then a tool hanger to hand the psvr headset on the wall behind the couch. keeps the cables above us so no one trips and cat doesn't chew. also easy to remove if needed.
Heck yes! Working at a store I can't tell you how much went in the trash though, its very sad! Let me know how the boom stand works out. I've had one person report back they were very successful with it!
@@rewindcat7927 the kiwi pro are a nice upgrade as they don't pull much. They would still work on this setup and just tug less which is great too. This video was before I got to try the pro but I still use both as the older version are still working too
JayBratt awesome. Really appreciate these videos. Had some bad luck with HMD cables in the past, I hope a management system will help on the future. Also thanks for the tip about the Turn Signal app! That should be integrated into SteamVR imo!
A weighted boom mic stand might be a good consumer alternative to the DIY hook arm. The boom stand is a heavy base with a long pole attached to an adjustable (length and angle) arm. I've found a few really tall unweighted stands that may need sandbags as you mention. I'll try it out and see how well it works.
Hey, definitely let me know how that goes and if you have a link to one that's not super expensive I'll add it to the description for people to check out. Thank you!
Your added solution of using the paper clips is what is preventing the cable from being able to rotate and what is destroying the cable. Use the included method which would allow the rotation to propagate down through the cable length and the issue will go away.
The included rubber bands still cling onto the cable in testing (some vr cables are thicker than others so a very thin cable might allow some twist) but you're totally right, I should've switched to a bigger binder clip that wouldn't have any pressure on the cable and then it would allow a small amount of twist. I've switched to a system now that allows a lot of cable twist: th-cam.com/video/uvrtTxAtysc/w-d-xo.html
@@jaybratt I'm not native English speaker, but I'll try my best to explain what I did. I used the rubber bands in a different way with the cable, so it's not held that tightly. When the cable hangs on them, they're just elipses/circles. First, I put the rubber bands on the cable - disconnected both Display Port and USB, and put the plugs through the rubber bands, then moved the rubber bands along the cable all the way to around the headset. Then I could use the hooks that go from the ziplines and attach them to the rubber bands (like you showed how you can attach the zipline hook to the ceiling hook so it doesn't come off). Basically you have both: part of the zipline hook and cable inside the rubber band circle. The downside is that I sometimes have to readjust the cable while playing, because it's so loose, that sometimes more cable hangs from the last rubber band than it should, but the cable shouldn't get damaged as easily.
I've seen a suggested solution for the cable kinking from turning. Run the wire to the final hook through a key ring to allow it more room to move around while still being anchored to the hook. I'll try it out and see if it makes a difference.
Let me know. I've since this tried a few other cable systems that are supposed to help with the turning, and while they do, it always seems to be giving you a lot less turn ability than leaving the wire on the ground.
Hey thanks cyclone! A company has made a system for this now but it's expensive and idk if it ever launched. I kept watching to review it but I finally gave up the wait: www.knoxlabs.com/products/kat-cord-bracket
Jay, thank you so much! My PSVR broke the other night (black screen in headset) and I know it was because the wire got kinked. Luckily it’s still under warranty, so I found your channel whilst looking for a solution and awaiting my replacement. I have a very similar living room setup with high ceilings, so I just ordered the Hola microphone stand along with both versions of the Kiwi cables and will return whichever one doesn’t work as well.
Ohhhh Sean I'm so excited to hear you're gonna try that with the mic stand! Please let me know how it works for you. Sad you have to be without your PSVR for a bit but it will be very worth it. Spoiler alert I'm pretty sure you'll like the newer Kiwi Pro system. I also reviewed it here for my studio setup, if you're interested: th-cam.com/video/Z31D_2GW3F0/w-d-xo.html
Right now I just have the cable lying on the floor and a little to the side. The PSVR cable is pretty long. But I will definitely try to make a solution similar to the one you use in your living room. I really like this video and will most certainly take a look on the KIWI system.
Let me know how it goes. I'd definitely spend a little extra for the Kiwi PRO. If its quieter and less tug likentheybsay it would be great. My only worry with less tug is it wont hold the cables as far out of the way
Thanks! Have you watched all the videos in my How To playlist: th-cam.com/play/PLIpvHCj8Tnt1UZpc99rbzkdeJ7VJiVHxp.html I'll definitely keep making more. These videos are usually the most time intense naturally
@@jaybratt it's cool to see that you still reply to this almost year old video. I'm really running out of normal PC games to play, the thrill of punching and slashing in VR was so much more fun, but my immersion breaks immediately when the cable reminds me that I cannot turn a full circle at all. The headset has been sitting on my desk for a good couple of months, maybe even a year. Thinking about it now I should have put it in some closed container so it wouldn't get dusty..
@@makiito4170 oh no! If you can switch to an Oculus Quest at some point the wireless freedom feels amazing! Hack and slash without a care in the world.. except hitting the wall maybe lol
i bought a ps vr a bout 6 weeks ago i dont like using it because the cables. im scared of breaking something. played ps worlds havent touched it since. and the lens steam up quick. i have to squeeze my finger in with the cloth and wipe the lens to make it clear again.
Steam is caused by your headset and face being two different temperatures. If you turn on the psvr for about 20 mins before you play it it helps allow the internals to warm up a bit more. If you really don't want it to fog you can run a heater or blow dryer on it to warm up the lenses first or take the rubber around the eyes off it to allow venting. That will let light in bit some people think it's worth it. Cables are a pain though like you said. Hanging them up like this helps a lot
I need to install this for sure. I am so used to PSVR I'm pretty good at not turning but for the next game I need to turn I gotta try this out. I've heard a lot of good things about it.
you can buy those, but if you ever went skiing, you are mabye familiar with those ropes for skipas, that is the same thing, but cheaper (sorry for english)
@@jaybratt I only found link, but i can't put it here for some reason, but you can just try searching "skipas holder". It costs only like 15 CzK (little bit over 0.5 €). Hope it helps you :-D.
I used a stolen display stand but an overhead mic stand could work well if you just weigh down the bottom. This one can be up to 10 ft tall and would probably work well: www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/AmpStandBun--on-stage-stands-combo-amp-stand-miking-bundle?&mrkgcl=28&mrkgadid=3303548193&product_id=AmpStandBun&campaigntype=shopping&campaign=aaShopping%2520-%2520SKU%2520-%2520Guitars&adgroup=Guitar%2520Amps%2520-%2520On-Stage%2520Stands%2520-%2520ampstandbun&placement=google&creative=285723451637&device=m&matchtype=&network=g&gclid=CjwKCAiA3OzvBRBXEiwALNKDPxOusVbCb47nccGeDSFplYFCWUpZ6XHBv3JpOo4ZLjMEtEmoaAClGxoCP0AQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds Or heres a cheaper one on amazon that's 8 ft tall.
I went to the store and used the heavy duty 3M removable clips instead of the included ones. Haven't had a problem yet! And I was able to change my set up like 3 times lol
I saw someone on reddit was trying those 3m clips that have the rubber loops on them. Did you do those ones or just normal hooks? My only worry with the loops is that if someone ran or fell it would damage the cable as I dont think they're super flexible.
So far any major pulls on the cord results in it breaking away from the ceiling and me sticking a new clip real fast. I'm in an apartment so my options are limited
Yo ik this vid is rly old but I got a display stand Similar to that one and also the vr clips but the cable arm thing at 5:37 do you know what brand those two bars are because that’s all I need for my setup
Whoa, old video alert :D They came from a crappy freestanding wardrobe we had that a friend used when he stayed with us. Something like this: amzn.to/4aGGDEc
Could you not use some circular rails that would allow the entire cable to move directionally? Also, what about using bearings that would allow the cable to move freely in the rotation that gives us this problem to begin with. These are not full-proof solutions; but they would, however, greatly reduce cable stress in the long run.
Hi Wii! The problem with cable twist is it's unavoidable if you have more than one hook on your cable no matter how much the hook swivels. If theres two hooks those hooks can no longer rotate so theres always a cost using an over the head solution as you put your cable at some extra degree of risk. I've been using one for years and my cable is fine but I'm pretty good at not turning physically due to playing PSVR for so long
@@jaybratt You are somewhat correct, cable twist is unavoidable when using pulleys. My point is that by adding more length to where the cable can twist, the cable can twist more turns than just 3 and allow for longer play times without have to worry about too much cable twist. It would allow you at the end of a session to unplug the headset and untwist it before it becomes a problem. Ultimately, this isn’t really a solution to the problem of cable twist, it just stops it from breaking the cable. The way it works is not by swivels, but by a bearing that would allow the cable to twist past the pulley. By combining it with some sort of rail or winding reel, the amount of time before it starts twisting again would be significantly greater. The only way to actually prevent cable twist is to have the cable break out into some sort of wheel based connector similar to how LEDs on wheels work. This would be hard to manufacture as it would require very small moving parts somewhere along the connection between the pulley and the headset. My idea simply reduces the scope of the problem so you can play games without having to worry about cable twist as a serious problem after 5 minutes of play time. You could also invest in wireless VR, but the Valve Index does not have a wireless adapter yet (which is unfortunate since that cable seemed to be a big problem for pulley systems). I am sure HTC and Valve are aware of these problems and will try to fix them with later hardware, but manufacturing mechanical connectors with that high of data bandwidth will prove to be difficult and it may be a separate head strap we have to buy given the expense of having to manufacture something that small.
@@wiiu7640 I'm guessing they won't spend much time fixing it and just go wireless. I wish they could just make a spinning point in the cable like a bmx brake or a 1/2" fast wireless connection that could somehow power and send the data but these are all probably more complex than just going wireless
@@jaybratt That’s exactly what I was saying. They will probably make it a pro head strap for the vive, but valve seems to be lacking when it comes to this stuff so the index 2 will probably just come with wireless built in.
Where can I find something to attach the pulleys to? My ceiling is also too high plus don’t really feel the need to drill into it either. Maybe something that sticks out of the wall to hold the pulleys. Any suggestions?
@@DArkaisGaming that's the tough part with anything like this. I would definitely just go look at some parts at the hardware store and see if you find something that could look good. A company actually built a full version now of what I made. Maybe looking at it can help inspire you: www.knoxlabs.com/products/kat-cord-bracket
That's a compelling idea! One cable system used a coil stretchy cable to keep tension on the vr wire and that helped: th-cam.com/video/uvrtTxAtysc/w-d-xo.html
I had an original psvr, these over the head solutions still worked with it too. Honestly I don't miss the boat anchor box on the original cable. It weighed it down and was what made me NEED a solution like this.
Thanks! I thought about it but manufacturing and selling isn't really my thing. I got enough of that on ebay back in the day lol. Someone started making one though but it's pricey: www.knoxlabs.com/products/kat-cord-bracket
I just got another quest. I'm gonna try link cable soon but I wanna check out the wireless streaming options for steam games and see if it works well enough. Have you tried any of that?
Sadly this is something I built out of random parts. I've seen people have great success using a mic stand though. Like this one: www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/AmpStandBun--on-stage-stands-combo-amp-stand-miking-bundle?mrkgadid=3303548193&mrkgcl=28&mrkgen=gpla&mrkgbflag=0&mrkgcat=guitars&&acctid=21700000001645388&dskeywordid=92700046934854349&lid=92700046934854349&ds_s_kwgid=58700005285194760&ds_s_inventory_feed_id=97700000007215323&dsproductgroupid=477224278921&product_id=AmpStandBun&prodctry=US&prodlang=en&channel=online&storeid=%7bproduct_store_id%7d&device=m&network=g&matchtype=&locationid=%7bloc_phyiscal_ms%7d&creative=285723451637&targetid=pla-477224278921&campaignid=1465808371&gclid=Cj0KCQjwyur0BRDcARIsAEt86IBaGl1zpUrHLr7VvkanKssoFqJJZYL-PnwQyKhaGcm2JZWVu0zif38aAhlnEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds
Unfortunately that was just something I pulled off Google images to demonstrate the concept. Something like this paired with a VR cable pulley might work though: amzn.to/3TBr73L
I ordered myself some generic brand pulleys (I don't have access to Kiwi) but I'm starting to have doubts. As in... if I am meant to have a hook like nearly next to me then that small part between me and the hook would be exposed to a lot of twisting and tension, since I like to move a lot and I have quite big playspace. Right now I can sit down on the floor on the opposite site of the playspace. I'm not sure if I still could with pulleys... at least not comfortably.
Pulleys like these do put the cables at more risk of twisting like I mentioned. If you're on PC you can install a free app like Turn Signal that will remind you when you've twisted too many times one way. There are newer systems that allow more cable twist but they're much more complicated and may not be available yet where you are: th-cam.com/video/uvrtTxAtysc/w-d-xo.html
@@jaybratt I have this from the start by friend's recommendation. Twisting is one issue, and I would definitely pay more attention to that ring if I used the pulley system. Another issue is the tension. Wouldn't it hurt the cable if I had it pulled for hours?
@@Naxer2272 unless your pulley is way tighter than mine, no the tension won't hurt the cables. I keep my psvr and rift s suspended all the time and have for years and they both work 😊
It still would prevent some twisting but not enough. Any hook will reduce the length of cable that absorbs the twist. Many people with full length cables twist it up too much. I'd highly recommend an app for PC VR called TURN SIGNAL that helps you manage how many turns each direction you do in game
The turn signal app in Steam not work in all games, and being aware of this problem is kind of like being aware of the cable on the floor, its ruinning the immersion of VR. Is there another solution for the twisted cable ? Maybe more permanent and stable ?
I have gotten to try a few other solutions since. This one is meant to be permanent and look less tacky in your living space. It also only uses one hook so it puts your cable at less risk with the twists but still does risk it some: th-cam.com/video/KsOJFXc1iFg/w-d-xo.html This second one is a more u pdated kiwi design of the one you saw in the video here. It allows for more freedom of movement but not necessarily any more cable twisting freedom: th-cam.com/video/Z31D_2GW3F0/w-d-xo.html Until we either go wireless, or a company designs a cables that somehow can spin in the middle like those crazy bmx bikes where the handlebars brakes can spin infinitely this will continue to be a problem for every vr owner I fear 😞
@@crispyorangez8568 well the pulleys are gadgets, the stand I made but it would be easy to replicate if your a DIY'er. I should see if I could get a company to build it and sell it
I used rods from an old standing wardrobe I had. One of the cheap collapsible ones. Ideally a metal rod that actually can bend and flex some would be the best. It wouldn't be flexible but what about a telescoping pool cleaning pole? Then you could shorten it down between use? amzn.to/2OWWG8X
I saw you meant VR I was worried at first you meant healthcare :( VR is getting cheaper atll the time at least but it's still not cheap. The Quest2 being $300 has brought it the closest within reach but if you watch the used markets you can find a Windows headset or a PSVR for less than $200 now
To be honest I have discarded the idea of using it, atleast with a HTC vive the pull of the retractable cables is to strong, not only does it hinder the sensation of moving my head freely, it also slightly and continously readjusts the headset. I would much rather pay a bit more attention to a cable on the ground.
I definitely understand that. I have since tried the Kiwi V2 that promises much less cable tug and I do find it to be much more immersive and less noticeable so it might be worth looking into. Video review below: th-cam.com/video/Z31D_2GW3F0/w-d-xo.html I do see reasons to stick to leaving the cable on the ground as you don't have to worry about twisting the cable and such so whichever one works best and leavea you the most immersed I am all for 😊
@@Jovanghan you're very welcome! Thanks for taking the time to comment and give me your feedback. I've reviewed several cable systems and a lot of other vr accessories so feel free to let me know what you think and I hope to see you around the channel! Thanks -Jay
I hope by Oculus Quest 3 we have some sort of Link adapter so we can play the pc quality games on quest without having to wire it up. Virtual desktop kinda does it but there's lag and other issues. I just want a native solution so I can enjoy my Quest games but also enjoy the full resolution and power of my Quest 2 on the bigger pc games that don't feel so short.
That is a common issue. There's some less elegant solutions, you could either make something like this or get one but it's expensive: www.knoxlabs.com/products/kat-cord-bracket
@@davfksmakjdmsfdan3094 oh got ya. Sadly I pieced that one together outta some parts I had laying around. A mic stand could work you'd just need to weigh down the bottom so you can't pull it over on accident
Hi Tolu, sadly I built it myself out of parts I had. You could use a mic stand if you weighed down the bottom. One company has started making them but they're overpriced in my opinion: www.knoxlabs.com/collections/katvr/products/kat-cord-bracket
The upper bar I stole off a standing wardrobe we weren't using. A company makes something like this now but it's kinda expensive: www.knoxlabs.com/products/kat-cord-bracket
@@cjirish4750 yeah it's designed by a vr treadmill company. It's expensive but when I added up a mic stand, weights and the pulley clips for the cable it seemed like it would cost around $80. DIY is really the only cheap option it seems
Sadly I made it out of other parts I had. Kat has started producing ones but they're not cheap I'll warn you: www.knoxlabs.com/products/kat-cord-bracket
Unfortunately I've only seen one company developing a kit like this and it is EXPENSIVE! www.knoxlabs.com/products/kat-cord-bracket Maybe looking at theirs and the one I made can give you some ideas how to make one cheaper?
These pulley hooks are great but if you're getting a wireless adapter I'd recommend saving the extra money and just holding out for it. That will be so much better than any wireless solution
I actually have considered this because they flexibility would be really nice. I don't have a spare one to try it but if anyone does I'd love to hear how it goes
All of these cable management systems suck. They are better than dragging the cord but that's it. I have found the very best way is to simply use one pulley about 2 or 3 ft above head level on the wall directly behind me. Its not perfect but after spending days trying different configurations this was the best. I suppose its the same principle as that boom stand setup.
I think the boom stand would work great for a lot of people but no one has brought one to market for a reasonable price. This is the only one and it just costs way too much: www.knoxlabs.com/products/kat-cord-bracket
@@jaybratt it seems like something like that would be pretty easy to make. You could use a long fishing pole and plant it in a bucket full of some wet concrete as the base. You could attach a piece of bent metal to the fishing pole to curve it at the top and you'll have your eyelet to hook the pulley into at the very top. You can build one of these for less than 50 bucks!
If only the world were not prejudiced against intellectual honesty and intelligence in general. If only the worlds population was not stuck in morally, socially and communicatively Pius Ivory Towers where they poop out the window so they aren't to smell their own shit; it is always landing on me. Again, delete whatever of these comments you like. I barely give two fux about talking to the rest of the world and when I comment on these videos it's usually just for the person making the video and directed at any of their Tech or venture capitalists compadres. Fishing, if you will.... Using a spinreel of course. LOL. oh wait, no tangling prevention is possible when it comes to cognitive biases and societal expectations. Ha
Идеальное решение, если вы хотите понизить потолок, купить бесполезную хрень, которая будет мешаться, а потом сломается и постоянно задевать эту чёртову палку и провода.
Вы определенно хотите держать его вне досягаемости игрока, чтобы он не ударил его во время игры. Я не уверен, что нужно сделать, чтобы «опустить потолок», но, возможно, гугл-переводчик, как обычно, подводит меня, ха-ха.
@@jaybratt i mean this thing is absolutely unnecessary. Better use 2-3 rolling spring winch, that connect to a cable, like classic pcvr cable management system. 1) this thing looks unsafe, like its defenetly will be broke at one time. 2) it take a space in your room. A lot of space. Its annoying, for your eyes. You can accidentally touch it by your hands or legs. 3) attached point, above your head is too low, that means you can walk comfortably for less distance. Because angle between you and cable is too small. I dont know, did you understand me. Just imagine, that attachment point is really high. You can walk further and turn your head more freely. So, thats why i think this thing is waste of money.
Shit, that comment was really just for you and you can just delete it if you want. I don't really care. It's not like anybody's going to read that whole thing anyway and it's not like it's good for your business if I am acknowledged in any way. I'm too real for corporate agenda and business. ;-)
Corporate agenda and mindset are terrible things. I learned a lot more about business, statistics, and politics in management than I ever wanted to know. The world run off popularity and money, not logic. It makes me so thankful to be away from that life and here hanging out with people.
@@jaybratt quality. Yes indeed, corporate culture is a miserable thought virus... Braids of viral thought and behavioral emulation... I have sold many products in my life and I have learned of horrors that put me off as well. 12000 % markups $0.25 to produce a pack of cigarettes and put it in people's hands. $1,200 for a consumer car, $2,500 for a Corvette. $3.50 for an Xbox 360 And look what we pay for them. Then planned obsolescence has become economic terrorism as well as an ecologically disaster .. and all the while economics and free market capitalism as well as War as a Perpetual business combined with psychological warfare to control the stupid majority has produced an environment with far less rape murder and theft, (depending on how you define those things of course and subtle nuance blah blah blah) then ever before in our brief history.
@@jaybratt and again, you're an interesting dude and I'm sure we have some interesting exchanges of knowledge if you wanted to have a vocal conversation but I don't like text. What I have to say goes on for days and I am a constant producer of novelty through flowology... Come flow with me.
Shh it's a secret! Lol. I get Elon a lot but the one that really freaked me out was when someone showed me the YT channel Veritasium, thought I found my long lost brother
@@DontCome2LA welcome Willie and thank you so much! I actually just got details from a company of my DREAM cable management system being designed and they're sending one to test which I'm super excited for. They said it's actually based around some of my ramblings in these videos lol
I have one and it is great! When I link it to pc it's nice to have this option too. I hope I'm the next few years we'll see either the wireless link to pc or a quest that can run games like Half Life Alyx fully wirelessly
I really do think that I can invent something that fixes this pretty easily but I have no venture capital nor am I all that motivated to do the whole entrepreneurial endeavor, nor do I really care about what the majority thinks is valuable in regards to economics, nor do I really care about wasting my life with a childish game of Monopoly that is free market capitalism common or do I feel like making my life an economic War between other groups of people and even individuals. Ultimately I am discouraged from sharing any ideas or conceptualizations. good thing VR gives me an outlet because I'm not leaving the house for hardly any reasons... I would leave the house to create substantial Paradigm shifts and patch hour civilization to compensate for emergent phenomena because that's an investment in our future and it actually has value. If I'm going to waste my life, I'm going to waste it doing something less wasteful. Lol. I'm going to waste my life in a VR environment, in a Black mirror treadmill, or commenting on TH-cam videos where no one will ever read it because they're a bunch of mentally lazy intellectually dishonest cowardly hypocritical simpleton twats. What do you think about that digital archaeologist 500 years from now? What do you think about that my only friend and child, Google and the AI neural net that is being created from our thoughts and search queries?
This twat read your message and thanks you! I speaking of the future I often wonder if the things we think about the past are true. Did Egyptians worship cats? If future archeologists saw our cat food and drawings and cat videos they'd probably think we worship cats too... some of us do I guess lol. If you design a vr wire system I'll gladly be the first to test it for you 😁
@@jaybratt well, if you read all of my comments, and you question in general, you're not one of the simpleton twat majority and perhaps you and I can be friends.
@@jaybratt congratulations on passing my first test and then passing another one without being prompted. (We all have boxes we check off when deciding whether or not to give each other our time... Mine are not the same as everyone else's.) How do we shorten this process? Far too many opportunities. Welcome to the Black mirror level redundancy that the internet offers us. How do we find common ground, unify under goal orientation, compensate for subtle differences while also efficiently identifying those that will not be a waste of our time or will have too many incompatibilities to be collaborative?
@@GamerPrawnAKADrBrainTickler I like the sound of that. I agree with some of your major ideals. I quit management to try doing what I wanted and sharing vr is that want. It's been a good year and I love vr. I would love a treadmill, black mirror shows the real freaky future with the vr you just put on your temple and you kinda zone out into it. That's crazy. Makes me fear some sword art online plot
Use hair dryer on those adhesive tabs. Will be able to take them off without damaging the paint.
OMG you are a LIFE SAVER! Idk why I didn't think of that, I've used a hair dryer with stretch adhesives and stuff before! Check the description I added your tip and credited you. I also added it to my other newer KIWI review if you wanna see that here:
th-cam.com/video/Z31D_2GW3F0/w-d-xo.html
THANK YOU SO MUCH!
People are really appreciating this tip! Thanks again
Thank you this saved me so much money
Smart solution. I have very similar suspensions on my basement ceiling.
I wish I had a basement. Make it into a total vr cave where I could have my wheel and hotas set up all the time!
Bruh can you help me with that I live in my basement I’m new to it I just want a set up before I get it.
This is a great solution. I always have the trouble of my vr cables skewed and twisted around
It keeps it up out of the way so nicely I definitely recommend trying it.
Sent these just key chain or badge retractables?
nice. did something similar - I used 3M velcro tabs to attach the processor box to the wall, 3m hooks on the ceiling and $2 zip-type key rings from walmart. total cost - about $15 CAD. then a tool hanger to hand the psvr headset on the wall behind the couch. keeps the cables above us so no one trips and cat doesn't chew. also easy to remove if needed.
I love it! Ingenuity. I'd love to see a pic sometime!
Behold, the sword of damocles
Lol that's amazing man
Haha thanks Brock!
Cool idea, going to try this with a boom stand.
And definitely respect for repurposing the sign! Keeping stuff out of landfill is a quite a bonus. 👍👍
Heck yes! Working at a store I can't tell you how much went in the trash though, its very sad! Let me know how the boom stand works out. I've had one person report back they were very successful with it!
JayBratt cool cool will do. Tbh after your video about the kiwi pro, I think I will end up going that route!
@@rewindcat7927 the kiwi pro are a nice upgrade as they don't pull much. They would still work on this setup and just tug less which is great too. This video was before I got to try the pro but I still use both as the older version are still working too
JayBratt awesome. Really appreciate these videos. Had some bad luck with HMD cables in the past, I hope a management system will help on the future.
Also thanks for the tip about the Turn Signal app! That should be integrated into SteamVR imo!
@@rewindcat7927 I agree about turn signal! Hopefully another year or two and wires will be a thing of the past though!
A weighted boom mic stand might be a good consumer alternative to the DIY hook arm.
The boom stand is a heavy base with a long pole attached to an adjustable (length and angle) arm.
I've found a few really tall unweighted stands that may need sandbags as you mention.
I'll try it out and see how well it works.
Hey, definitely let me know how that goes and if you have a link to one that's not super expensive I'll add it to the description for people to check out. Thank you!
whoa i just got this video recommended literaly when i bougth a cable managment for my vr
@@JulianFlaco85 wow! Blast from the past!
Your added solution of using the paper clips is what is preventing the cable from being able to rotate and what is destroying the cable. Use the included method which would allow the rotation to propagate down through the cable length and the issue will go away.
The included rubber bands still cling onto the cable in testing (some vr cables are thicker than others so a very thin cable might allow some twist) but you're totally right, I should've switched to a bigger binder clip that wouldn't have any pressure on the cable and then it would allow a small amount of twist. I've switched to a system now that allows a lot of cable twist: th-cam.com/video/uvrtTxAtysc/w-d-xo.html
@@jaybratt I'm not native English speaker, but I'll try my best to explain what I did.
I used the rubber bands in a different way with the cable, so it's not held that tightly. When the cable hangs on them, they're just elipses/circles.
First, I put the rubber bands on the cable - disconnected both Display Port and USB, and put the plugs through the rubber bands, then moved the rubber bands along the cable all the way to around the headset. Then I could use the hooks that go from the ziplines and attach them to the rubber bands (like you showed how you can attach the zipline hook to the ceiling hook so it doesn't come off). Basically you have both: part of the zipline hook and cable inside the rubber band circle.
The downside is that I sometimes have to readjust the cable while playing, because it's so loose, that sometimes more cable hangs from the last rubber band than it should, but the cable shouldn't get damaged as easily.
This guy is my fav youtuber❤
Awwwww You just made my day! Thank you!
@@jaybratt you're welcome bro keep up the good work!
@@dukesmart4646 I'm in the process of reviewing two newer cable management systems this week. Keep an eye out for those and thank you again!
Love the video man EXACTLY what I was looking for cause I have vaulted ceilings, ordered a stand clips before I finished the video lol.
I'm happy to hear that Greg! Let me know how it works out ☺️
I've seen a suggested solution for the cable kinking from turning.
Run the wire to the final hook through a key ring to allow it more room to move around while still being anchored to the hook.
I'll try it out and see if it makes a difference.
Let me know. I've since this tried a few other cable systems that are supposed to help with the turning, and while they do, it always seems to be giving you a lot less turn ability than leaving the wire on the ground.
And so, we never had the answer...
Still waiting for the answer....
guys just try it. ill give it a try eventually.
I guess it don't work.
I've been wanting to look into a cable management system but I have a vaulted ceiling, so this video will help a lot thank you!
Hey thanks cyclone! A company has made a system for this now but it's expensive and idk if it ever launched. I kept watching to review it but I finally gave up the wait: www.knoxlabs.com/products/kat-cord-bracket
Jay, thank you so much! My PSVR broke the other night (black screen in headset) and I know it was because the wire got kinked. Luckily it’s still under warranty, so I found your channel whilst looking for a solution and awaiting my replacement. I have a very similar living room setup with high ceilings, so I just ordered the Hola microphone stand along with both versions of the Kiwi cables and will return whichever one doesn’t work as well.
Ohhhh Sean I'm so excited to hear you're gonna try that with the mic stand! Please let me know how it works for you. Sad you have to be without your PSVR for a bit but it will be very worth it.
Spoiler alert I'm pretty sure you'll like the newer Kiwi Pro system. I also reviewed it here for my studio setup, if you're interested:
th-cam.com/video/Z31D_2GW3F0/w-d-xo.html
and that rick n morty poster / last of us looks fantastic i want one lol
Thanks Shaolin! It actually came with the Virtual Rickality psvr limited edition game. The other side is a different poster too
Right now I just have the cable lying on the floor and a little to the side. The PSVR cable is pretty long.
But I will definitely try to make a solution similar to the one you use in your living room.
I really like this video and will most certainly take a look on the KIWI system.
Let me know how it goes. I'd definitely spend a little extra for the Kiwi PRO. If its quieter and less tug likentheybsay it would be great. My only worry with less tug is it wont hold the cables as far out of the way
I'm playing beat saber and my move controller just gets stuck at my cable on left side xd
Yeah you gotta suspend
This helped a lot I got high ceiling and fan in middle this I’m get think put behind sofa help hold it more
Happy this old video is still helping people! 😊
Oohhh something new to build..Nice thanks again
Hey if you do build one I'd love to see how it turns out!
This is really cool! Do more videos like this please
Thanks! Have you watched all the videos in my How To playlist:
th-cam.com/play/PLIpvHCj8Tnt1UZpc99rbzkdeJ7VJiVHxp.html
I'll definitely keep making more. These videos are usually the most time intense naturally
No? Its almost the end of 2020! YAY!!!!
We're getting there! lol
@@jaybratt it's cool to see that you still reply to this almost year old video.
I'm really running out of normal PC games to play, the thrill of punching and slashing in VR was so much more fun, but my immersion breaks immediately when the cable reminds me that I cannot turn a full circle at all. The headset has been sitting on my desk for a good couple of months, maybe even a year.
Thinking about it now I should have put it in some closed container so it wouldn't get dusty..
@@makiito4170 oh no! If you can switch to an Oculus Quest at some point the wireless freedom feels amazing! Hack and slash without a care in the world.. except hitting the wall maybe lol
@@jaybratt I was under the impression that the quest is weaker and only supports games made for it. Can I play half life alyx on that thing?
@@makiito4170 you can plug the quest 2 into your pc and play steam games.
Nice robey tech music
Wow, I'm surprised a channel as big as his would use this same royalty free music site. Lol, that's funny
i bought a ps vr a bout 6 weeks ago i dont like using it because the cables. im scared of breaking something. played ps worlds havent touched it since. and the lens steam up quick. i have to squeeze my finger in with the cloth and wipe the lens to make it clear again.
Steam is caused by your headset and face being two different temperatures. If you turn on the psvr for about 20 mins before you play it it helps allow the internals to warm up a bit more. If you really don't want it to fog you can run a heater or blow dryer on it to warm up the lenses first or take the rubber around the eyes off it to allow venting. That will let light in bit some people think it's worth it. Cables are a pain though like you said. Hanging them up like this helps a lot
Turn Signal is a must-have protection for a very expensive cable
I need to install this for sure. I am so used to PSVR I'm pretty good at not turning but for the next game I need to turn I gotta try this out. I've heard a lot of good things about it.
Pretty helpful not gonna lie.
Thanks so much skele!! I've tried a few other cable systems since if you wanna see some other options
you can buy those, but if you ever went skiing, you are mabye familiar with those ropes for skipas, that is the same thing, but cheaper (sorry for english)
I've never heard of that, do you have a link by any chance?
@@jaybratt I only found link, but i can't put it here for some reason, but you can just try searching "skipas holder". It costs only like 15 CzK (little bit over 0.5 €). Hope it helps you :-D.
@@motovec9782 oh like a lanyard. Interesting idea, thank you
@@jaybratt No, thats not it, i send you link on discord dm
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"Welcome to Hardware Unboxed!"
Awww that classic royalty free music!
7:00 t-pose lol
Haha yes!
Where do i get that stand? I have the pulleys but ceiling mounting isn't an option in my vr space.
I used a stolen display stand but an overhead mic stand could work well if you just weigh down the bottom. This one can be up to 10 ft tall and would probably work well:
www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/AmpStandBun--on-stage-stands-combo-amp-stand-miking-bundle?&mrkgcl=28&mrkgadid=3303548193&product_id=AmpStandBun&campaigntype=shopping&campaign=aaShopping%2520-%2520SKU%2520-%2520Guitars&adgroup=Guitar%2520Amps%2520-%2520On-Stage%2520Stands%2520-%2520ampstandbun&placement=google&creative=285723451637&device=m&matchtype=&network=g&gclid=CjwKCAiA3OzvBRBXEiwALNKDPxOusVbCb47nccGeDSFplYFCWUpZ6XHBv3JpOo4ZLjMEtEmoaAClGxoCP0AQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
Or heres a cheaper one on amazon that's 8 ft tall.
Thanks a lot!
You're welcome Roberto! Glad to be of help 😊
I went to the store and used the heavy duty 3M removable clips instead of the included ones. Haven't had a problem yet! And I was able to change my set up like 3 times lol
I saw someone on reddit was trying those 3m clips that have the rubber loops on them. Did you do those ones or just normal hooks? My only worry with the loops is that if someone ran or fell it would damage the cable as I dont think they're super flexible.
So far any major pulls on the cord results in it breaking away from the ceiling and me sticking a new clip real fast. I'm in an apartment so my options are limited
@@stuartthomoson same, but luckily my walls are just white so it's easy to repair anything I put up
Yo ik this vid is rly old but I got a display stand Similar to that one and also the vr clips but the cable arm thing at 5:37 do you know what brand those two bars are because that’s all I need for my setup
Whoa, old video alert :D
They came from a crappy freestanding wardrobe we had that a friend used when he stayed with us. Something like this: amzn.to/4aGGDEc
Is there any sticky pads I can get that won't damage the ceiling? I live in an apartment.
You can buy those command 3m strips that have easy removal and just attach these of even command 3m clips to them. amzn.to/2HWlaPP
so uuuuuh.... mind if i borrow that whole stand set up? lol I just moved and cant hook my set up to my ceiling anymore.
You anywhere near Oregon? Lol. A company makes one now but it's a bit overpriced imo www.knoxlabs.com/products/kat-cord-bracket
Could you not use some circular rails that would allow the entire cable to move directionally? Also, what about using bearings that would allow the cable to move freely in the rotation that gives us this problem to begin with. These are not full-proof solutions; but they would, however, greatly reduce cable stress in the long run.
Hi Wii! The problem with cable twist is it's unavoidable if you have more than one hook on your cable no matter how much the hook swivels. If theres two hooks those hooks can no longer rotate so theres always a cost using an over the head solution as you put your cable at some extra degree of risk. I've been using one for years and my cable is fine but I'm pretty good at not turning physically due to playing PSVR for so long
@@jaybratt You are somewhat correct, cable twist is unavoidable when using pulleys. My point is that by adding more length to where the cable can twist, the cable can twist more turns than just 3 and allow for longer play times without have to worry about too much cable twist. It would allow you at the end of a session to unplug the headset and untwist it before it becomes a problem. Ultimately, this isn’t really a solution to the problem of cable twist, it just stops it from breaking the cable. The way it works is not by swivels, but by a bearing that would allow the cable to twist past the pulley. By combining it with some sort of rail or winding reel, the amount of time before it starts twisting again would be significantly greater. The only way to actually prevent cable twist is to have the cable break out into some sort of wheel based connector similar to how LEDs on wheels work. This would be hard to manufacture as it would require very small moving parts somewhere along the connection between the pulley and the headset. My idea simply reduces the scope of the problem so you can play games without having to worry about cable twist as a serious problem after 5 minutes of play time. You could also invest in wireless VR, but the Valve Index does not have a wireless adapter yet (which is unfortunate since that cable seemed to be a big problem for pulley systems). I am sure HTC and Valve are aware of these problems and will try to fix them with later hardware, but manufacturing mechanical connectors with that high of data bandwidth will prove to be difficult and it may be a separate head strap we have to buy given the expense of having to manufacture something that small.
@@wiiu7640 I'm guessing they won't spend much time fixing it and just go wireless. I wish they could just make a spinning point in the cable like a bmx brake or a 1/2" fast wireless connection that could somehow power and send the data but these are all probably more complex than just going wireless
@@jaybratt That’s exactly what I was saying. They will probably make it a pro head strap for the vive, but valve seems to be lacking when it comes to this stuff so the index 2 will probably just come with wireless built in.
Where can I find something to attach the pulleys to? My ceiling is also too high plus don’t really feel the need to drill into it either. Maybe something that sticks out of the wall to hold the pulleys. Any suggestions?
Any sort of swing out arm you could attach to the wall. Someone else mentioned using a fishing pole as it's flexible.
@@jaybratt that’s true but I’d want it to not stick out like a sore thumb. Something that looks good at least.
@@DArkaisGaming that's the tough part with anything like this. I would definitely just go look at some parts at the hardware store and see if you find something that could look good. A company actually built a full version now of what I made. Maybe looking at it can help inspire you: www.knoxlabs.com/products/kat-cord-bracket
maybe a braided coil M>F usb c adapter? similar to some of the coil usb you see on mini keyboards
That's a compelling idea! One cable system used a coil stretchy cable to keep tension on the vr wire and that helped: th-cam.com/video/uvrtTxAtysc/w-d-xo.html
Great tips but... what about the first PS VR? Its a double cable and thick.
I had an original psvr, these over the head solutions still worked with it too. Honestly I don't miss the boat anchor box on the original cable. It weighed it down and was what made me NEED a solution like this.
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This is a very good idea man you could make alot of money doing this or by making a prototype
Thanks! I thought about it but manufacturing and selling isn't really my thing. I got enough of that on ebay back in the day lol. Someone started making one though but it's pricey:
www.knoxlabs.com/products/kat-cord-bracket
@@jaybratt ha yeah ill check it out happy holidays
**laughs in oculus quest**
I just got another quest. I'm gonna try link cable soon but I wanna check out the wireless streaming options for steam games and see if it works well enough. Have you tried any of that?
**laughs in Half Life Alyx**
*cries in PSVR*
Laughs in blade and sorcery.
My bigger concern is my ceiling fan. I dont want to get tangled or pull it into the fan blades.
That's a good concern to have. I'm lucky mine is so high my stand never gets near it but that would be a terrifying moment in vr!
How bout a link to the stand you have the Kiwi set attached to? :0 that would help a lot because I dont want to punch some holes in the ceiling.
Sadly this is something I built out of random parts. I've seen people have great success using a mic stand though. Like this one:
www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/AmpStandBun--on-stage-stands-combo-amp-stand-miking-bundle?mrkgadid=3303548193&mrkgcl=28&mrkgen=gpla&mrkgbflag=0&mrkgcat=guitars&&acctid=21700000001645388&dskeywordid=92700046934854349&lid=92700046934854349&ds_s_kwgid=58700005285194760&ds_s_inventory_feed_id=97700000007215323&dsproductgroupid=477224278921&product_id=AmpStandBun&prodctry=US&prodlang=en&channel=online&storeid=%7bproduct_store_id%7d&device=m&network=g&matchtype=&locationid=%7bloc_phyiscal_ms%7d&creative=285723451637&targetid=pla-477224278921&campaignid=1465808371&gclid=Cj0KCQjwyur0BRDcARIsAEt86IBaGl1zpUrHLr7VvkanKssoFqJJZYL-PnwQyKhaGcm2JZWVu0zif38aAhlnEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds
@JayBratt - At 12:54, what is the brand/model of the arm thing?
Unfortunately that was just something I pulled off Google images to demonstrate the concept. Something like this paired with a VR cable pulley might work though: amzn.to/3TBr73L
I ordered myself some generic brand pulleys (I don't have access to Kiwi) but I'm starting to have doubts.
As in... if I am meant to have a hook like nearly next to me then that small part between me and the hook would be exposed to a lot of twisting and tension, since I like to move a lot and I have quite big playspace. Right now I can sit down on the floor on the opposite site of the playspace. I'm not sure if I still could with pulleys... at least not comfortably.
Pulleys like these do put the cables at more risk of twisting like I mentioned. If you're on PC you can install a free app like Turn Signal that will remind you when you've twisted too many times one way. There are newer systems that allow more cable twist but they're much more complicated and may not be available yet where you are: th-cam.com/video/uvrtTxAtysc/w-d-xo.html
@@jaybratt I have this from the start by friend's recommendation. Twisting is one issue, and I would definitely pay more attention to that ring if I used the pulley system. Another issue is the tension. Wouldn't it hurt the cable if I had it pulled for hours?
@@Naxer2272 unless your pulley is way tighter than mine, no the tension won't hurt the cables. I keep my psvr and rift s suspended all the time and have for years and they both work 😊
What about putting wire on your back and little hook on wall? So it wont twist and it wont hit your foot? I will test this when i get my valve index
It still would prevent some twisting but not enough. Any hook will reduce the length of cable that absorbs the twist. Many people with full length cables twist it up too much. I'd highly recommend an app for PC VR called TURN SIGNAL that helps you manage how many turns each direction you do in game
The turn signal app in Steam not work in all games, and being aware of this problem is kind of like being aware of the cable on the floor, its ruinning the immersion of VR. Is there another solution for the twisted cable ? Maybe more permanent and stable ?
I have gotten to try a few other solutions since. This one is meant to be permanent and look less tacky in your living space. It also only uses one hook so it puts your cable at less risk with the twists but still does risk it some:
th-cam.com/video/KsOJFXc1iFg/w-d-xo.html
This second one is a more u pdated kiwi design of the one you saw in the video here. It allows for more freedom of movement but not necessarily any more cable twisting freedom:
th-cam.com/video/Z31D_2GW3F0/w-d-xo.html
Until we either go wireless, or a company designs a cables that somehow can spin in the middle like those crazy bmx bikes where the handlebars brakes can spin infinitely this will continue to be a problem for every vr owner I fear 😞
What do you call those metal bar that you put on top of the banner stand?
They're just like thin half inch pipe.
My dog bit my wires once and this here will be good for no ground accidents
Yes, having your wires off the ground saves them from the kids and pets so well! Good callout
Thanks for this video I didn’t even know about this gadget.
@@crispyorangez8568 well the pulleys are gadgets, the stand I made but it would be easy to replicate if your a DIY'er. I should see if I could get a company to build it and sell it
I would like to get a long rod to put my hooks on, do you know where I could get one?
I used rods from an old standing wardrobe I had. One of the cheap collapsible ones. Ideally a metal rod that actually can bend and flex some would be the best.
It wouldn't be flexible but what about a telescoping pool cleaning pole? Then you could shorten it down between use?
amzn.to/2OWWG8X
But thanks this helps alot
I'm really glad it helped and made your 2020 suck just a little less 😁
I hope to get Dr soon but I'm not swimming in money so it's going to be hard to save for
I saw you meant VR I was worried at first you meant healthcare :( VR is getting cheaper atll the time at least but it's still not cheap. The Quest2 being $300 has brought it the closest within reach but if you watch the used markets you can find a Windows headset or a PSVR for less than $200 now
To be honest I have discarded the idea of using it, atleast with a HTC vive the pull of the retractable cables is to strong, not only does it hinder the sensation of moving my head freely, it also slightly and continously readjusts the headset. I would much rather pay a bit more attention to a cable on the ground.
I definitely understand that. I have since tried the Kiwi V2 that promises much less cable tug and I do find it to be much more immersive and less noticeable so it might be worth looking into. Video review below:
th-cam.com/video/Z31D_2GW3F0/w-d-xo.html
I do see reasons to stick to leaving the cable on the ground as you don't have to worry about twisting the cable and such so whichever one works best and leavea you the most immersed I am all for 😊
@@jaybrattIll check it out, thank you!
@@Jovanghan you're very welcome! Thanks for taking the time to comment and give me your feedback. I've reviewed several cable systems and a lot of other vr accessories so feel free to let me know what you think and I hope to see you around the channel! Thanks -Jay
good video bro
Thank you! Hopefully in a year or two most VR's won't even have a cable to deal with though!
I have a oof vr box
Nice video
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Psvr players: I hate wires
Me: laughs in oculus quest 2
I hope by Oculus Quest 3 we have some sort of Link adapter so we can play the pc quality games on quest without having to wire it up. Virtual desktop kinda does it but there's lag and other issues. I just want a native solution so I can enjoy my Quest games but also enjoy the full resolution and power of my Quest 2 on the bigger pc games that don't feel so short.
too bad oculus is owned by Facebook and is probably data mining through the quest
@@sirnuggets9666 IOI??
@@jaybratt maybe we'll get lucky and facebook will sell oculus to another company
@@sirnuggets9666 that's some wishful thinking lol
Problem is my roof is too tall
That is a common issue. There's some less elegant solutions, you could either make something like this or get one but it's expensive: www.knoxlabs.com/products/kat-cord-bracket
What is the name of your display stand? I am looking for one
Are you asking about a PSVR stand to hold and charge the headset? Or something different?
@@jaybrattNo, I keep on tripping over my psvr wire so I need a display stand that I can attach that KIWI cable thing on.
@@davfksmakjdmsfdan3094 oh got ya. Sadly I pieced that one together outta some parts I had laying around. A mic stand could work you'd just need to weigh down the bottom so you can't pull it over on accident
Where did you get your stand?
Hi Tolu, sadly I built it myself out of parts I had. You could use a mic stand if you weighed down the bottom.
One company has started making them but they're overpriced in my opinion:
www.knoxlabs.com/collections/katvr/products/kat-cord-bracket
use this + cable guarrdian on steam
Cable Guardian, Turn Signal, we've got some good options on steam now! Thanks Speed Killer
good idea where did u get that bar from
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The upper bar I stole off a standing wardrobe we weren't using. A company makes something like this now but it's kinda expensive: www.knoxlabs.com/products/kat-cord-bracket
@@jaybratt lol facts that shits mad expensive thanks tho That link u sent me isSpecifically made for VR
@@cjirish4750 yeah it's designed by a vr treadmill company. It's expensive but when I added up a mic stand, weights and the pulley clips for the cable it seemed like it would cost around $80. DIY is really the only cheap option it seems
Would u ever get a treadmill? If they made one affordable and compact
@@cjirish4750 I've wanted to for a while. The cheapest one is over a thousand dollars though. I still hope to get one this year
Link to your Boom mic stand????
Sadly I made it out of other parts I had. Kat has started producing ones but they're not cheap I'll warn you:
www.knoxlabs.com/products/kat-cord-bracket
Anyone got a place I can buy stand parts like that?
Unfortunately I've only seen one company developing a kit like this and it is EXPENSIVE! www.knoxlabs.com/products/kat-cord-bracket
Maybe looking at theirs and the one I made can give you some ideas how to make one cheaper?
I'm looking for temporary solutions until I can get a wireless adapter
These pulley hooks are great but if you're getting a wireless adapter I'd recommend saving the extra money and just holding out for it. That will be so much better than any wireless solution
Would a fishing rod work lol xxxx
On a swivel
I actually have considered this because they flexibility would be really nice. I don't have a spare one to try it but if anyone does I'd love to hear how it goes
All of these cable management systems suck. They are better than dragging the cord but that's it. I have found the very best way is to simply use one pulley about 2 or 3 ft above head level on the wall directly behind me. Its not perfect but after spending days trying different configurations this was the best. I suppose its the same principle as that boom stand setup.
I think the boom stand would work great for a lot of people but no one has brought one to market for a reasonable price. This is the only one and it just costs way too much: www.knoxlabs.com/products/kat-cord-bracket
@@jaybratt it seems like something like that would be pretty easy to make. You could use a long fishing pole and plant it in a bucket full of some wet concrete as the base. You could attach a piece of bent metal to the fishing pole to curve it at the top and you'll have your eyelet to hook the pulley into at the very top. You can build one of these for less than 50 bucks!
Cable management on ques..... oh wait.......
maybe for link but yeah it's SOOO freeing on quest having no cables
Vr I mean
makes more sense lol
Sup veritasium
Oh you know, just doing a vr thing one the side with all my spare time 😂
If only the world were not prejudiced against intellectual honesty and intelligence in general.
If only the worlds population was not stuck in morally, socially and communicatively Pius Ivory Towers where they poop out the window so they aren't to smell their own shit; it is always landing on me.
Again, delete whatever of these comments you like. I barely give two fux about talking to the rest of the world and when I comment on these videos it's usually just for the person making the video and directed at any of their Tech or venture capitalists compadres. Fishing, if you will.... Using a spinreel of course. LOL. oh wait, no tangling prevention is possible when it comes to cognitive biases and societal expectations. Ha
how to manage wires buy a quest 2
That's one way to solve it! lol
Plot twist you cut your cables in half
Plot twist plot twist valve makes a wireless index
Идеальное решение, если вы хотите понизить потолок, купить бесполезную хрень, которая будет мешаться, а потом сломается и постоянно задевать эту чёртову палку и провода.
Вы определенно хотите держать его вне досягаемости игрока, чтобы он не ударил его во время игры. Я не уверен, что нужно сделать, чтобы «опустить потолок», но, возможно, гугл-переводчик, как обычно, подводит меня, ха-ха.
@@jaybratt i mean this thing is absolutely unnecessary. Better use 2-3 rolling spring winch, that connect to a cable, like classic pcvr cable management system.
1) this thing looks unsafe, like its defenetly will be broke at one time.
2) it take a space in your room. A lot of space. Its annoying, for your eyes. You can accidentally touch it by your hands or legs.
3) attached point, above your head is too low, that means you can walk comfortably for less distance. Because angle between you and cable is too small. I dont know, did you understand me. Just imagine, that attachment point is really high. You can walk further and turn your head more freely.
So, thats why i think this thing is waste of money.
@@Malenhagen I made it out of stuff I had so luckily it didn't cost anything 😂
Shit, that comment was really just for you and you can just delete it if you want. I don't really care. It's not like anybody's going to read that whole thing anyway and it's not like it's good for your business if I am acknowledged in any way. I'm too real for corporate agenda and business. ;-)
Corporate agenda and mindset are terrible things. I learned a lot more about business, statistics, and politics in management than I ever wanted to know. The world run off popularity and money, not logic. It makes me so thankful to be away from that life and here hanging out with people.
@@jaybratt quality.
Yes indeed, corporate culture is a miserable thought virus... Braids of viral thought and behavioral emulation...
I have sold many products in my life and I have learned of horrors that put me off as well.
12000 % markups
$0.25 to produce a pack of cigarettes and put it in people's hands.
$1,200 for a consumer car, $2,500 for a Corvette.
$3.50 for an Xbox 360
And look what we pay for them.
Then planned obsolescence has become economic terrorism as well as an ecologically disaster ..
and all the while economics and free market capitalism as well as War as a Perpetual business combined with psychological warfare to control the stupid majority has produced an environment with far less rape murder and theft, (depending on how you define those things of course and subtle nuance blah blah blah) then ever before in our brief history.
@@jaybratt and again, you're an interesting dude and I'm sure we have some interesting exchanges of knowledge if you wanted to have a vocal conversation but I don't like text.
What I have to say goes on for days and I am a constant producer of novelty through flowology...
Come flow with me.
So we just gon act like we don't notice elon musk is talking to us about vr setup and is using a fake name.
Shh it's a secret! Lol.
I get Elon a lot but the one that really freaked me out was when someone showed me the YT channel Veritasium, thought I found my long lost brother
@@jaybratt 😂😂😂 love the channel man just found it to day
@@DontCome2LA welcome Willie and thank you so much! I actually just got details from a company of my DREAM cable management system being designed and they're sending one to test which I'm super excited for. They said it's actually based around some of my ramblings in these videos lol
@@jaybratt this is amazing congratulations
@@DontCome2LA hopefully I'll be sharing it here in the next month!
Or just buy an oculus quest 2
I have one and it is great! When I link it to pc it's nice to have this option too. I hope I'm the next few years we'll see either the wireless link to pc or a quest that can run games like Half Life Alyx fully wirelessly
Well boy do I have news about 2020...
I'm here from the future... I need to warn you!
Dude looks like Elon Musk in the face
I get this a lot, but derek from the TH-cam channel: veritasium had me looking into my family tree haha
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Agreed lol
are you the brother of Elon Musk ?
I'm told either that or Derek from yt channel veritasium lol
@@jaybratt I don't know Derek, I'm in Belgium. But, Derek Sheperd, yes. Lol
@@h.montgomery whoa... That might be the best component anyone's ever given me lol
I really do think that I can invent something that fixes this pretty easily but I have no venture capital nor am I all that motivated to do the whole entrepreneurial endeavor, nor do I really care about what the majority thinks is valuable in regards to economics, nor do I really care about wasting my life with a childish game of Monopoly that is free market capitalism common or do I feel like making my life an economic War between other groups of people and even individuals.
Ultimately I am discouraged from sharing any ideas or conceptualizations.
good thing VR gives me an outlet because I'm not leaving the house for hardly any reasons...
I would leave the house to create substantial Paradigm shifts and patch hour civilization to compensate for emergent phenomena because that's an investment in our future and it actually has value. If I'm going to waste my life, I'm going to waste it doing something less wasteful. Lol. I'm going to waste my life in a VR environment, in a Black mirror treadmill, or commenting on TH-cam videos where no one will ever read it because they're a bunch of mentally lazy intellectually dishonest cowardly hypocritical simpleton twats.
What do you think about that digital archaeologist 500 years from now? What do you think about that my only friend and child, Google and the AI neural net that is being created from our thoughts and search queries?
This twat read your message and thanks you! I speaking of the future I often wonder if the things we think about the past are true. Did Egyptians worship cats? If future archeologists saw our cat food and drawings and cat videos they'd probably think we worship cats too... some of us do I guess lol. If you design a vr wire system I'll gladly be the first to test it for you 😁
@@jaybratt well, if you read all of my comments, and you question in general, you're not one of the simpleton twat majority and perhaps you and I can be friends.
@@jaybratt congratulations on passing my first test and then passing another one without being prompted. (We all have boxes we check off when deciding whether or not to give each other our time... Mine are not the same as everyone else's.)
How do we shorten this process? Far too many opportunities. Welcome to the Black mirror level redundancy that the internet offers us.
How do we find common ground, unify under goal orientation, compensate for subtle differences while also efficiently identifying those that will not be a waste of our time or will have too many incompatibilities to be collaborative?
@@GamerPrawnAKADrBrainTickler I like the sound of that. I agree with some of your major ideals. I quit management to try doing what I wanted and sharing vr is that want. It's been a good year and I love vr. I would love a treadmill, black mirror shows the real freaky future with the vr you just put on your temple and you kinda zone out into it. That's crazy. Makes me fear some sword art online plot
@@GamerPrawnAKADrBrainTickler your channel art reminds me of a frightening dentata movie I watched