Thank you so much for this amazing review Jakob! We at BEATSURFING are all big fans of your channel and we have used your videos to learn apps and gear many times in the past. We’re really happy that you’re so supportive, it’s a real boost to the team to crush those damn bugs even faster. Speaking of which, we will try to address the multi-selection soon. It could be interesting to have a mode that only moves without rescaling, making it more accessible to move the smaller ones? Something like a rescale unlock and a move unlock. We think it may be a good way to keep flexibility and make it faster. Its current implementation is frustrating. On our updates, we try to release an update every week and new instruments every month. Our next big feature release is in the works, and it is a looper. (edit: gesture looper is the v2 looper, v1 is action looper). It’s not obvious but you can re-order layers by dragging the squares up and down in the layer, and you can delete layers by swiping left on it (we have added prompts for that in the new onboarding). We have lots in store and encourage everyone to drop us a line on social media with your ideas, bugs, thoughts, or questions. Thanks again to everyone for the feedback and ideas, we cant make it better without you guys!
Wow. Noone can complain about the pricing. For 30 bucks you can create unlimited fantastic perform surfaces. These guys deserve success. Excellent video, àgain
Awhile back I left the music making app world for hardware but just now coming back and wow. There are so many advancements since I left and your channel details them wonderfully. So thanks for the quality videos, subb'd!
I’m really loving this! The most exciting thing I’ve seen since Drambo. I didn’t use Beatsurfing 1 since I didn’t want to configure midi that much. Playgrounds was cool, but I always felt like I was cheating 😂. This is the ultimate!
Dude great app I totally think this this is fun to mess with and I can't wait to make some of my own interfaces :D It is good to see you around man - I hope you are doing well and hope you feel better my friend!
Instant download! I’m planning to build some musical photos for the kids with this (i.e. touching the persons, faces, things etc. will do some more or less weird noises). 🥰
I really hope this new direction your headed leads to you becoming a full fledged IOS MUSIC APP DEVELOPER. I would buy anything you'd come up with. Awesome vid 👊🏾
I remember your awesome beat in KRFT. unfortunately the app developer never continued updates and KRFT ceased to work. But your beat you made was really impressive. I like what you have done here. Electro Freshness!
KRFT was amazing and I agree, it was a sad to see it die out. I’m hoping Beatsurfing 2 has a long life, because I can definitely see this becoming like the most used app for me.
Brilliant demo. I just knew you would love this app. It's a lot like Figure which I know you love only you get to create your own with this one and you're a DIY kinda guy there you have it!
Thanks to Loopy Pro, we loved what they did, asked them how it worked, and then set it up for our app as well. Couldnt agree more, buying an app mean you should own it, not rent it.
@@BEATSURFING - App users actually want a price that's fair for users and fair for developers and helps developers continue to develop so it doesn't become another great but abandoned app on the app store.
I used playground a lot. It always annoyed me that I couldn’t release any of the music I made with it though. Fixed! I’d have never learned about this app if it weren’t for your videos. I’m really looking forward to the updates on this. Thanks again Jakob.
Incredible you do this for developers for free to help make their product better. You should be a consultant, there can be few people who know this space and music tech better than you. Thanks for all you do … 👏
We agree! He gave us a massive list of ideas on bugs, ux, future features. Really invaluable help. And as we said before, we have used his guides ourselves many times in the past. Much love!!!
Oh this is something truly amazing. I mean it's a damn game changer, for me at least. I simply can't stop. what I can't figure out - how did you manage to get your graphics on top - I mean in my case it's a background, and I can still see shapes on it... It killed my vibe tonight as I had to come back here to ask this question, but where else could I ask and get a single most complete answer? ;) Many thanks in advance.
bro that beat from 6:05 almost made me buy the pro model... but no i need to make sure it works with me and my own workflow before i pay for any sort of subs...
Awesome video Jakob! Between the Affinity design work to the video editing, music creation and overall presentation, you are always finding new ways to improve your channel👏 🐘🧹
Awesome app and will try it no doubt. But I find the pricing strange.... So people who get this on day 1 and stop after a year will miss all the extras the other people get when they pay for this on a later date when everything is out?
This is a pretty common model in music software market, when I bought Ableton 10 I didn't expect to have the features from 11 but I got it before the guy who bought 11 at same price one year later. You def need to check it out.
@@crystalcamino3796 But they have to keep releasing features in order to keep people on a subscription and if you can keep them all when its done then it makes no sense to get anything with this model on day 1.
As mentioned in the ableton comment, we want to keep updating and adding features. We have a really ambitious roadmap for the next few years. From new instruments released, new platforms and many things around integrating into DAWS. So when you purchase you get app+bugfixes for life and the next 12 months of features. Then for a smaller fee you can upgrade to the next years features when that time comes. Its a bit of a hybrid model, which we got from Loopy Pro. But we think its the better than subscriptions and our users "renting" the app.
@@BEATSURFING True, renting apps is just terrible so i must give you that! Im still trying to wrap my head around it since i dont think this model will stimulate people to buy it on day 1 tho.... anyways, thank you for the reply and you made a very awesome app.
No. I don’t know if they will add that either as it’s a functionality that would defeat the point of the app. It’s how you interact with the instrument surface that makes Beatsurfing 2 special. If your friend wants to use hardware midi controllers to interact with instruments, I’d recommend looking an at other apps. If it’s beatmaking type apps that they’re after then something like Koala sampler or Beatmaker 3 would work.
What type of lag? Like late triggers or triggers bunching up to fire all at once or notes not playing at all? Also which model iPad are you using? I only had two iPads to test this one with and so I don’t how it runs on other devices.
It's the quantize doing its job. Try setting a different tempo or set the quantize off. Also note that there is the global quantization amount at the top and individual instruments have their own or can be set to global/off. We have tested on the min spec ipads (any ipad with ios 12). I should note when maps and instruments first load there will be some lag for a few seconds. Let us know how it goes, any iPad from the last 5 years should have 0 lag, you can also check the CPU monitor in the top right to see the load on CPU.
Pricing will obviously go up. It’s not possible to sustain 8 persons working 14 hours a day by selling that much for 29 dollars ;). As all features are free you can consider using the incredibly generous free tiers using only the free instruments like the sampler.
I was hesitant to buy it at $30 without AUV3 (both hosting auv3’s and being hosted in AUM/Loopy Pro) etc, but picked it up at $15 to support the vision and in hopes the developers come thru with updates. This type of app is unique among music apps, it’s like Samplr in its embrace of the touch screen environment. I wish you all the best and look forward to experiencing it mature! As an aside, $30 for a piece of software is not expensive on my $1000+ piece of hardware.
This app was such a disappointment because for a great feature filled app, there is ZERO IAA or AUV3 support. There is so much awesome stuff in this app but if one cant connect it to Loopy Pro (which I was going to buy it for) or AUM then what’s the point. I figured that I’ll wait a few versions and well, still no IAA or AUV3. Other iOS users have asked for the same thing. Still no change as of now. It’s weird!
@@BEATSURFING Another word for Hold would be latch. So when I press Hold, the sample loops continuously. Like in the AUM file player. But in Aum for pressing hold that would probably be "Global" for the hole file player, etc. BTW AUM's keyboard has a Hold feature on that keyboard.
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0:00 Surf that beat!
1:39 How it works
4:00 AUv3 & Roadmap
5:06 Free download but …
6:56 Tutorial: Getting started
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14:51 Modular Connections
16:27 Help!
17:35 Critique
19:49 Magic of Beatsurfing
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Thank you so much for this amazing review Jakob! We at BEATSURFING are all big fans of your channel and we have used your videos to learn apps and gear many times in the past.
We’re really happy that you’re so supportive, it’s a real boost to the team to crush those damn bugs even faster.
Speaking of which, we will try to address the multi-selection soon. It could be interesting to have a mode that only moves without rescaling, making it more accessible to move the smaller ones? Something like a rescale unlock and a move unlock. We think it may be a good way to keep flexibility and make it faster. Its current implementation is frustrating.
On our updates, we try to release an update every week and new instruments every month. Our next big feature release is in the works, and it is a looper. (edit: gesture looper is the v2 looper, v1 is action looper).
It’s not obvious but you can re-order layers by dragging the squares up and down in the layer, and you can delete layers by swiping left on it (we have added prompts for that in the new onboarding).
We have lots in store and encourage everyone to drop us a line on social media with your ideas, bugs, thoughts, or questions. Thanks again to everyone for the feedback and ideas, we cant make it better without you guys!
Do you have a discord community?
mind-boggling cool!!!
Wow. Noone can complain about the pricing. For 30 bucks you can create unlimited fantastic perform surfaces. These guys deserve success. Excellent video, àgain
Really one of the best iOS music production contents.
Thank you Jakob
Thank you so much for the support!
Awhile back I left the music making app world for hardware but just now coming back and wow. There are so many advancements since I left and your channel details them wonderfully. So thanks for the quality videos, subb'd!
I’m really loving this! The most exciting thing I’ve seen since Drambo. I didn’t use Beatsurfing 1 since I didn’t want to configure midi that much. Playgrounds was cool, but I always felt like I was cheating 😂. This is the ultimate!
Holy Moly, this app opens so many new creative ways to make music, in few minutes. Thanks Jakob!
It really does. And it’s pretty quick to set something new up too.
Dude great app I totally think this this is fun to mess with and I can't wait to make some of my own interfaces :D It is good to see you around man - I hope you are doing well and hope you feel better my friend!
Thanks for the breakdown! I wanted to dig into this while in the beta stages, but life got in the way-really excited to dig in as soon as possible!
Wow! This app does look cool!
This kind of creative approach is why I keep coming back to iOS music apps. 👍
@jakob haq, that looks awesome!! I need this in my life! What's the best iPad to pick up at the moment?
Hey Jackob, I want your 808 bass design and scene! Man this is awesome!
Instant download! I’m planning to build some musical photos for the kids with this (i.e. touching the persons, faces, things etc. will do some more or less weird noises). 🥰
Amazing idea! Please share witrh us when you do (if it a pic uo don't mind sharing) we would love to see what you make!
Absolutely fantastic Jakob. I can’t wait for the AUV3 but even without it’s so much fun looking (and deep if you want to dive in). Cheers. Lee
I really hope this new direction your headed leads to you becoming a full fledged IOS MUSIC APP DEVELOPER. I would buy anything you'd come up with. Awesome vid 👊🏾
I remember your awesome beat in KRFT. unfortunately the app developer never continued updates and KRFT ceased to work. But your beat you made was really impressive.
I like what you have done here.
Electro Freshness!
KRFT was amazing and I agree, it was a sad to see it die out. I’m hoping Beatsurfing 2 has a long life, because I can definitely see this becoming like the most used app for me.
Famtastic Overview⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ and the Hand Flip is Priceless 💯👌🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Thank you! 👊
This looks fantastic for some quick and easy improvised jams. Thank you for this review!
My pleasure! 👊
Wow. Great tutorial. Nice work
Thank you! 👊
Brilliant demo. I just knew you would love this app. It's a lot like Figure which I know you love only you get to create your own with this one and you're a DIY kinda guy there you have it!
You were right J! I just fell in love with it instantly. Once you start playing around with this thing, it’s like you’ve done it your whole life. 👊
My favorite pricing structure make another sudden appearance.
Thanks to Loopy Pro, we loved what they did, asked them how it worked, and then set it up for our app as well. Couldnt agree more, buying an app mean you should own it, not rent it.
@@BEATSURFING - App users actually want a price that's fair for users and fair for developers and helps developers continue to develop so it doesn't become another great but abandoned app on the app store.
I used playground a lot. It always annoyed me that I couldn’t release any of the music I made with it though. Fixed! I’d have never learned about this app if it weren’t for your videos. I’m really looking forward to the updates on this. Thanks again Jakob.
My pleasure Dave and have fun! 👊
Till live audio can't get fed info my AUM session this app is useless. But as soon as they add at least interapp audio this would be a must buy
Superdope video Jakob!!
That surface you made is hot! 🔥
this is crazy
Great video Jakob and very interesting app!
Thanks V!
Incredible you do this for developers for free to help make their product better. You should be a consultant, there can be few people who know this space and music tech better than you. Thanks for all you do … 👏
I do consult from time to time. But it’s less often than I’d hope. I love that type of work.
We agree! He gave us a massive list of ideas on bugs, ux, future features. Really invaluable help. And as we said before, we have used his guides ourselves many times in the past. Much love!!!
@@BEATSURFING lovely comment, great app, best wishes as it develops further. 🚀
Looks freakin awesome!!
I think you’d love this one bro! 👊
I'm so happy! I loved Playground but the fact that we cannot use our samples was a bummer for me. Thanks For this video!
It’s was the same for me. Playground was sikk but I wanted to make my own stuff. Beatsurfing 2 baby!!!! 👊🔥🔥
That looks really cool! I may need to check this out!
Oh this is something truly amazing. I mean it's a damn game changer, for me at least. I simply can't stop. what I can't figure out - how did you manage to get your graphics on top - I mean in my case it's a background, and I can still see shapes on it... It killed my vibe tonight as I had to come back here to ask this question, but where else could I ask and get a single most complete answer? ;) Many thanks in advance.
Oh my. I have figured it out. It was so easy. just set the colour to transparent.
Good work! 👍
4 additional buttons would help a lot: Dup, Snap to grid, Undo, Redo
Yeah, I mentioned that to the Beatsurfing crew and they told me that others have requested that too. So we’ll most likely see that I’m the future!
!00%! Those are all in the works and for us are must have features.
@@BEATSURFING This is going to be amazing! Congratulations for the app and congratulations Jacob for the videos, always very attractive
who gave the elephant the broom anyway
But how to do an easy four to the floor house beat?
bro that beat from 6:05 almost made me buy the pro model... but no i need to make sure it works with me and my own workflow before i pay for any sort of subs...
Looks great, but how can I get the recorded stems? And how can I play my recordings?
tap the record button, top rigth.
then its in the app folder, available from the ios finder, or on your computer if you connect your iPad.
@@hrrmtt nope.
nope what?
@@hrrmtt nope, there is no folder with recording’s- Ian not totally stupid
Awesome video Jakob! Between the Affinity design work to the video editing, music creation and overall presentation, you are always finding new ways to improve your channel👏
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Aw, thank you!
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This would be dope if you could export your creations as AUV3
Also needs a record
record is there :) you can record stereo or multitrack
th-cam.com/video/HfOAaAY3OSY/w-d-xo.html A quik and dirty « how to record » 😊
App is 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Yeah, is one of the most fun and useful apps I’ve ever used on iOS.
@@JakobHaq for sure. Love the versatility
Awesome app and will try it no doubt. But I find the pricing strange.... So people who get this on day 1 and stop after a year will miss all the extras the other people get when they pay for this on a later date when everything is out?
This is a pretty common model in music software market, when I bought Ableton 10 I didn't expect to have the features from 11 but I got it before the guy who bought 11 at same price one year later. You def need to check it out.
@@crystalcamino3796 But they have to keep releasing features in order to keep people on a subscription and if you can keep them all when its done then it makes no sense to get anything with this model on day 1.
As mentioned in the ableton comment, we want to keep updating and adding features. We have a really ambitious roadmap for the next few years. From new instruments released, new platforms and many things around integrating into DAWS. So when you purchase you get app+bugfixes for life and the next 12 months of features. Then for a smaller fee you can upgrade to the next years features when that time comes. Its a bit of a hybrid model, which we got from Loopy Pro. But we think its the better than subscriptions and our users "renting" the app.
@@BEATSURFING True, renting apps is just terrible so i must give you that! Im still trying to wrap my head around it since i dont think this model will stimulate people to buy it on day 1 tho.... anyways, thank you for the reply and you made a very awesome app.
Hi, can I use a midi controller with this? Asking for a friend.
No. I don’t know if they will add that either as it’s a functionality that would defeat the point of the app. It’s how you interact with the instrument surface that makes Beatsurfing 2 special. If your friend wants to use hardware midi controllers to interact with instruments, I’d recommend looking an at other apps. If it’s beatmaking type apps that they’re after then something like Koala sampler or Beatmaker 3 would work.
thank you for the vid
Can I have a playground link please?
I feel I get a bit of lag while I play sometimes
What type of lag? Like late triggers or triggers bunching up to fire all at once or notes not playing at all?
Also which model iPad are you using? I only had two iPads to test this one with and so I don’t how it runs on other devices.
@@JakobHaq its an iPad Pro 2021 and it takes a bit of time after I press the trigger
@@carlosloor88 its most probably the real-time quantize doing his job. You can set a different tempo or disable the quantize.
@@hrrmtt I will check into it! thx
It's the quantize doing its job. Try setting a different tempo or set the quantize off. Also note that there is the global quantization amount at the top and individual instruments have their own or can be set to global/off. We have tested on the min spec ipads (any ipad with ios 12).
I should note when maps and instruments first load there will be some lag for a few seconds. Let us know how it goes, any iPad from the last 5 years should have 0 lag, you can also check the CPU monitor in the top right to see the load on CPU.
Unlock via IAP is too expensive for me!
Pricing will obviously go up. It’s not possible to sustain 8 persons working 14 hours a day by selling that much for 29 dollars ;). As all features are free you can consider using the incredibly generous free tiers using only the free instruments like the sampler.
Very cool, I hope it doesn't go the way of KRFT.
I know that you looking for words to explain beatsurfing workflow and i think right words are: Swipe MPC.
The In-App purchase options for me are… Unlock beatsurfing 2 £5.99 & One month £2.99. Is Unlock £5.99 for a year? Or what?
Hmmmm not my cup of tea……doesn’t fit my fancy …😎
£26 to unlock??? Er, no.
its 15 for a few days
I was hesitant to buy it at $30 without AUV3 (both hosting auv3’s and being hosted in AUM/Loopy Pro) etc, but picked it up at $15 to support the vision and in hopes the developers come thru with updates. This type of app is unique among music apps, it’s like Samplr in its embrace of the touch screen environment. I wish you all the best and look forward to experiencing it mature!
As an aside, $30 for a piece of software is not expensive on my $1000+ piece of hardware.
This app was such a disappointment because for a great feature filled app, there is ZERO IAA or AUV3 support. There is so much awesome stuff in this app but if one cant connect it to Loopy Pro (which I was going to buy it for) or AUM then what’s the point. I figured that I’ll wait a few versions and well, still no IAA or AUV3. Other iOS users have asked for the same thing. Still no change as of now. It’s weird!
This video really explained how to use the app. I picked this up on impulse. Lack of a Hold button (Koala) is a deal breaker for me. # Disappointed.
What does the hold button in Koala? You mean hold like adhsr envelopes? The Mini Sampler has two envelope mode one use the hold duration.
@@BEATSURFING Another word for Hold would be latch. So when I press Hold, the sample loops continuously. Like in the AUM file player. But in Aum for pressing hold that would probably be "Global" for the hole file player, etc. BTW AUM's keyboard has a Hold feature on that keyboard.
@@jimshannononsounds Sorry i can confirm you that audio loop playback is not on our roadmap. There is a lot of app to play with loop hopefully :)