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I am a dad using my son's TH-cam channel and I found this video. Bro! Do you realize you just saved thousands if not millions of producers a ton of time with this video? My jaw literally dropped watching you explain the whole thing. You know how many people spend thousands for plugins that they don't need just because they/we(including me at number 1 of the list) don't know what we are doing? You are amazing, man! Subbing with my own account to you! Thanks so much for this!!!
i went to college for this and still had trouble, but after watching a 20 min video i'm fucking so much more enlightened thank christ for you and youtube, man
This is really, really enlightening. The logic amp and cab simulators seem to really need a massive amount of massaging. I used to struggle a lot with this crispy top end that was really hard to get out - whereas if I just put a TSE x50 or something on a track, the default setting is like 80% of the way to 'a decent heavy guitar tone'. I wonder if it's because the cabinet simulator isn't an IR loader - most amp sims these days just use cabinet IRs and that makes a huge difference.
I have been studying music for five years now and my mixing still absolutely sucks. Thank you for this video as it finally pushed me to organise my sound library and to explore logic more thoroughly. I had no idea about drum designer before hand. Looking forward to some more awesome content.
incredible work, sound engineer here, mainly work with soundtracks, but my background screams metal. needed some advice for logic’s stock amp designer thingy, was like solid gold. excellent work with the compressors, subscriber earned
Not gonna lie. I’ve been doing this music thing for quite a while and I’m STILL trying to figure out mastering. Your video has been the most help so far! Thank you! New sub right here! How would you feel about doing a collab? I’d love to write something for my next single, have you mix and master and do a video based around it for both of us. Thoughts?
This is sick. New to Logic and this has given me a great starter template. Thanks so much. I've subscribed and look forward to more videos. Thanks Jeremy!
What an absolutely mind bogglingly helpful video!! Wow! This is god's work man...you went through the pain of putting together this video and walking us through everything but then also making the templates available for us to use. This is just incredible. THANK YOU VERY MUCH!
This is a great video so much information. I just have a question, I have downloaded the template however I can't get any of the plugins to work. Also I tried to change the drums to EZE drummer 3 and would be using an Axe fx 3 for guitar but would like to use the bass you have here. It is obviously a routing issue but I can't work it out, any advice would be much appreciated.
Yeah for sure. The main goal of this video was to focus entirely on stock Logic plugins. I’ll def be doing more Logic template videos in the future where I use other, more premium, plugins. 👍
Excellent video, just a curiosity to ask: why do you use a DI before the audio interface, instead of directly using the instrument input of the audio interface? What is the advantage? Congratulations again and thanks also for your template. Keep it up
I actually don’t anymore. At the time I was experimenting with different configurations, trying to find what gave me the absolutely best and cleanest DI signal. Since then, I’ve found that the DI box is just not necessary in most situations. The only time I might use a DI box nowadays is if the signal coming from the instrument is too hot for whatever audio interface I might be using. In this case, it’s helpful because it allows reducing the signal before it hits the interface. But yeah, I rarely use a DI box these days.
I don't get where you get the room tracks from MIDI drum programmer. Like I usually add Drummer, convert it to MIDI, edit, and done. You have a room A and B? I saw those options in the drummer there, but... how did you get that on tracks? You have overhead tracks as well... this is programmed drums, I don't get where the overheads came from. I don't get where the room tracks came from.
I downloaded the template and have been loving it so far, but I am having a problem where I am unable to program the drum kit to play 2 values at the same time (ex. Kick and hi-hat) does anyone know how to fix this?
This is a phenomenal video, and incredibly informative. However, I am struggling to find how to get a larger selection of drums and cymbals in the drum kit designer. I only have the basic 3 bass and snare drums. No other toms or cymbals. Tips?
Super professionally done. I’m not used to complicated guitar chains so I’m sort of confused on how to record with the 2 panned channel strips, do you record one and paste it into both tracks? Thanks!
Thanks! No, the two panned channel strips are meant to be two separate takes. Meaning, you record a complete guitar track twice, one for each the left channel and one for the right. This is what helps give your mix that wide stereo sound.
Really love the sound of the drums but I'm really struggling with latency if I open up a guitar track. Is this download particularly memory intensive? I'm on a new macbook Pro so really shouldn't be struggling
I do this because I usually have other buses like “Vocals”, “FX”, etc that sum in the main bus. That’s where I can then do whatever is necessary to ensure things are sitting together nicely.
Hey bruv .. if you are tracking, you aren't mixing yet. Now you can mess with sounds and whatever, but it's usually this order... Learning from Joey Sturgis. Pre pro: (Organizing and solidifying writing, arrangements, tempo and overall sound for song ) Tracking: high quality takes, high quality playing, new strings ect... Try and cut the best, most mix ready tones possible. The best producers have songs that sound good before mixing even starts. Editing: finish ALL EDITING! Finalize all writing, fx (explosions, bass drops) bounce tracks to audio files. Try and eliminate as much midi instruments as possible... Obviously some may be needed for drum samples or whatever... Organize the session, color code, ect Start basic, broad stroke mixing on tracks, then bring in your buss processing... Everyone mixes into buss processing... Mix boyo
@@rickneibauer1 preach! I do try and follow these guidelines already. Although, I do find myself getting carried away with trying to mix like half the track before I finish recording certain things (sometimes keys, guitar lead overdubs, noise, or feedback swells etc…) I am working on having more discipline so thanks for the input. 🤘
Hey! This support page from Apple has a ton of great info on the additional sound libraries and should help with figuring out how to install these for whichever version of Logic you're using: support.apple.com/guide/logicpro/manage-logic-pro-content-lgcpf77e757d/mac
No, because I created it using Logic Pro X. I’ll have to try and update Logic and see if I can reproduce the issue. If you have any specific error info, please let me know. Thanks.
I'm trying to track using your template as a starting point but have latency no matter the I/O size. Running a pretty diesel IMac so not sure how to track using this?
I would start by freezing as many tracks as possible. If you ever need to make changes to them, just unfreeze, make the changes, and freeze again. This will greatly reduce the load on your system. Other than that, try turning on Low Latency Mode. That will disabled the plugins using the most cpu while it’s turned on. You can turn it on while tracking and turn off while mixing. Hopes that helps.
I have a question here if anyone can give me some help. I'm getting some pretty serious input latency when using this template. I've done some Googling on the issue but haven't found anything that resolves my problem except putting it in "low latency mode" but that kills a lot of the sound that this template creates. I am fairly new to Logic and don't really know how to fix this on my own.
The likely cause is the level of processing being done in the template and your system not being able to process everything in real-time. I personally use “Low latency mode” whenever I’m tracking because I don’t care about the processing while tracking. After I’m done tracking, I’ll turn off the low latency mode and continue mixing. So I wouldn’t expect an answer that’s going to allow you to continue hearing all processing being done while also using input monitoring. It’s just too much for a lot of systems to handle.
Very great thanks for this tutorial. How did you build drum track stack ? i just find separate by note pitch but can not control like when i mute the kick it's also mute all track in stack
Thanks! I actually have a video that teaches you how to build track stacks, as well as a few other things. Here it is, th-cam.com/video/C7k-8zrHu_0/w-d-xo.html
I actually noticed the background music and wondered for a minute if it was part if the track you were editing 🤣 (I liked it but maybe down a smidge while you are talking) . Great video mate! This guitar sound is not in my usual lane but you have given me a great place to start experimenting looking for that sound. Thanks so much for the template!
If you'd like to support my work and encourage me to continue creating new mixing templates, consider becoming a Patron. This is the best way to directly support me, my work, and this channel. Thank you! www.patreon.com/jeremyfox
Updated template available, check it out here: th-cam.com/video/ODgrNwchymg/w-d-xo.html
So this is like a mix template or something ???
I am a dad using my son's TH-cam channel and I found this video. Bro! Do you realize you just saved thousands if not millions of producers a ton of time with this video? My jaw literally dropped watching you explain the whole thing. You know how many people spend thousands for plugins that they don't need just because they/we(including me at number 1 of the list) don't know what we are doing? You are amazing, man! Subbing with my own account to you! Thanks so much for this!!!
Finally!
Someone using Logic and it’s stock plugins and making an awesome METAL template!
This really helped me out a lot!
I’m glad you like it! Thanks for watching! 🤘
@@JeremyFoxMusic I have to thank you! I wish had that 10 years ago when I started using logic!
i went to college for this and still had trouble, but after watching a 20 min video i'm fucking so much more enlightened
thank christ for you and youtube, man
This is really, really enlightening. The logic amp and cab simulators seem to really need a massive amount of massaging. I used to struggle a lot with this crispy top end that was really hard to get out - whereas if I just put a TSE x50 or something on a track, the default setting is like 80% of the way to 'a decent heavy guitar tone'. I wonder if it's because the cabinet simulator isn't an IR loader - most amp sims these days just use cabinet IRs and that makes a huge difference.
I have been studying music for five years now and my mixing still absolutely sucks. Thank you for this video as it finally pushed me to organise my sound library and to explore logic more thoroughly. I had no idea about drum designer before hand. Looking forward to some more awesome content.
Nice, I’m glad you found this helpful!
incredible work, sound engineer here, mainly work with soundtracks, but my background screams metal. needed some advice for logic’s stock amp designer thingy, was like solid gold. excellent work with the compressors, subscriber earned
SUPER helpful, professional and very well put together! Thank you so much for the template! About to fiddle with it, now.
Guitar tone is surprisingly good. Nice work!
Not gonna lie. I’ve been doing this music thing for quite a while and I’m STILL trying to figure out mastering. Your video has been the most help so far! Thank you! New sub right here! How would you feel about doing a collab? I’d love to write something for my next single, have you mix and master and do a video based around it for both of us. Thoughts?
I’m down! Send me the details.
Logic guitar amp plug in is actually pretty nice, thats one thing i miss about using logic
This is sick. New to Logic and this has given me a great starter template. Thanks so much. I've subscribed and look forward to more videos. Thanks Jeremy!
What an absolutely mind bogglingly helpful video!! Wow! This is god's work man...you went through the pain of putting together this video and walking us through everything but then also making the templates available for us to use. This is just incredible. THANK YOU VERY MUCH!
Thank you so much for extending your knowledge. Very kind of you and wish you the best.
Thanks so much Jeremy! This only proves that you can do anything you want if you know your tools in and out.
Holy smokes, finally a good metal setting from stock amp designer! Thanks for sharing.
Wow, great video, very helpful. This saved me a lot of work figuring out the drums. Not sure how long took you to set all this up, so, thanks a lot!
I appreciate your effort in getting this out to the community…thanks man!!!
My pleasure! Hope you find it useful/helpful 🤘
Watching a video like this was top of my list for today.....and there you are!! Thank you
Haha, you bet! Hope you find the template and info in this video helpful. Thanks!
This is a great video so much information. I just have a question, I have downloaded the template however I can't get any of the plugins to work. Also I tried to change the drums to EZE drummer 3 and would be using an Axe fx 3 for guitar but would like to use the bass you have here. It is obviously a routing issue but I can't work it out, any advice would be much appreciated.
You made those drums sound fucking amazing.
Oh yeah. That sounds very better 🙌🏽🙌🏽
Great tutorial man! Thanks for this! I love the compressor trick :-)
Thank you! I’m glad you found this helpful. 👍
Hi Jeremy you are a life saver thank you so much for some of us studio and cubase user when are you gonna make a video such as this or template also
You could also upload one with more popular plugins such as neural, waves, fabfilter etc.
Yeah for sure. The main goal of this video was to focus entirely on stock Logic plugins. I’ll def be doing more Logic template videos in the future where I use other, more premium, plugins. 👍
Thanks man, great video and informative AF
wow it's fire, thanks a lot man!!!
Man, I love you ! Thank you VERY much
Haha, you’re welcome! 🤘
love the video. new subscriber here
Excellent video, just a curiosity to ask: why do you use a DI before the audio interface, instead of directly using the instrument input of the audio interface? What is the advantage? Congratulations again and thanks also for your template. Keep it up
I actually don’t anymore. At the time I was experimenting with different configurations, trying to find what gave me the absolutely best and cleanest DI signal. Since then, I’ve found that the DI box is just not necessary in most situations. The only time I might use a DI box nowadays is if the signal coming from the instrument is too hot for whatever audio interface I might be using. In this case, it’s helpful because it allows reducing the signal before it hits the interface. But yeah, I rarely use a DI box these days.
@@JeremyFoxMusic Thanks for your reply ! Keep it up
Hey Jeremy, great video and super helpful! Having trouble with the template getting my guitar signal to go in. Only using a 2 input USB. Tips?
I don't get where you get the room tracks from MIDI drum programmer. Like I usually add Drummer, convert it to MIDI, edit, and done. You have a room A and B? I saw those options in the drummer there, but... how did you get that on tracks? You have overhead tracks as well... this is programmed drums, I don't get where the overheads came from. I don't get where the room tracks came from.
what channels inputs do i set to record bass and guitar?
Awesome, Thanks !
I downloaded the template and have been loving it so far, but I am having a problem where I am unable to program the drum kit to play 2 values at the same time (ex. Kick and hi-hat) does anyone know how to fix this?
I do my bass a little different but not much. For the distorted bass part I use a guitar amp
Downloaded the template but it only came with drums, am i missing something?
Hey bit of a Silly question but how did you get to the channels where you can adjust the individual "drum mic's" and the "overheads"?
Learned a lot of this video. thanksssss :)
No problem! Glad you found it helpful. 🤘🏼
how do I download and import the template you linked in the description into logic?
Thank you sooo much ! Great video !
Glad you found it useful. Thanks for watching!
+ 1 sub !
When you’re not using the stock logic amps, what or where do you find better amp presets?
Awesome tips and thanks
Thanks! Glad you found them helpful.
This is a phenomenal video, and incredibly informative. However, I am struggling to find how to get a larger selection of drums and cymbals in the drum kit designer. I only have the basic 3 bass and snare drums. No other toms or cymbals. Tips?
How can I download the other drum kits you use?
Can someone link the specific maple kit preset that he uses?
Is this for 10.4 or 10.5+?
edit, it's for 10.5 but it works with up to 10.4
hey bro thanksssss!!!!!
You bet! 🤘🏼
Super professionally done. I’m not used to complicated guitar chains so I’m sort of confused on how to record with the 2 panned channel strips, do you record one and paste it into both tracks? Thanks!
Thanks! No, the two panned channel strips are meant to be two separate takes. Meaning, you record a complete guitar track twice, one for each the left channel and one for the right. This is what helps give your mix that wide stereo sound.
@@JeremyFoxMusic oh very cool! Thanks!
Really love the sound of the drums but I'm really struggling with latency if I open up a guitar track. Is this download particularly memory intensive? I'm on a new macbook Pro so really shouldn't be struggling
ive been looking everywhere. How do i get more kits?
Великолепно!!!
Great video ! Just one (newbie) question: why separate the master bus from the instrument bus?
I do this because I usually have other buses like “Vocals”, “FX”, etc that sum in the main bus. That’s where I can then do whatever is necessary to ensure things are sitting together nicely.
ive gotten the template but my guitar doesnt sound the same as yours idky
Awesome video! Quick question… do you record guitars and bass before having the “top down” master bus processing? Asking for a friend.
Thanks! I start with the top down stuff mostly in place and than after things get further along I make slight tweaks as needed.
Hey bruv .. if you are tracking, you aren't mixing yet. Now you can mess with sounds and whatever, but it's usually this order... Learning from Joey Sturgis.
Pre pro: (Organizing and solidifying writing, arrangements, tempo and overall sound for song )
Tracking: high quality takes, high quality playing, new strings ect... Try and cut the best, most mix ready tones possible. The best producers have songs that sound good before mixing even starts.
Editing: finish ALL EDITING!
Finalize all writing, fx (explosions, bass drops) bounce tracks to audio files. Try and eliminate as much midi instruments as possible... Obviously some may be needed for drum samples or whatever...
Organize the session, color code, ect
Start basic, broad stroke mixing on tracks, then bring in your buss processing... Everyone mixes into buss processing... Mix boyo
@@rickneibauer1 preach! I do try and follow these guidelines already. Although, I do find myself getting carried away with trying to mix like half the track before I finish recording certain things (sometimes keys, guitar lead overdubs, noise, or feedback swells etc…)
I am working on having more discipline so thanks for the input. 🤘
I'm experiencing some serious latency when I open the template. Any advice?
Oops super bass heavy this time man...guitars way low...not sure why
Hey Jeremy! You mentioned being able to download additional drum kits. Do you know where you were able to download those from?
Hey! This support page from Apple has a ton of great info on the additional sound libraries and should help with figuring out how to install these for whichever version of Logic you're using: support.apple.com/guide/logicpro/manage-logic-pro-content-lgcpf77e757d/mac
Liked and Sub'd, Awesome video, Thank you SIr \m/
Thank you! 🤘
Hey Jeremy, your template doesn’t open on Locic Pro X. Do you know the reason why?
No, because I created it using Logic Pro X. I’ll have to try and update Logic and see if I can reproduce the issue. If you have any specific error info, please let me know. Thanks.
Is amazing, now i just need more cpu :c
I'm trying to track using your template as a starting point but have latency no matter the I/O size. Running a pretty diesel IMac so not sure how to track using this?
I would start by freezing as many tracks as possible. If you ever need to make changes to them, just unfreeze, make the changes, and freeze again. This will greatly reduce the load on your system. Other than that, try turning on Low Latency Mode. That will disabled the plugins using the most cpu while it’s turned on. You can turn it on while tracking and turn off while mixing. Hopes that helps.
@@JeremyFoxMusic that did the trick, thanks so much!
I have a question here if anyone can give me some help. I'm getting some pretty serious input latency when using this template. I've done some Googling on the issue but haven't found anything that resolves my problem except putting it in "low latency mode" but that kills a lot of the sound that this template creates. I am fairly new to Logic and don't really know how to fix this on my own.
The likely cause is the level of processing being done in the template and your system not being able to process everything in real-time. I personally use “Low latency mode” whenever I’m tracking because I don’t care about the processing while tracking. After I’m done tracking, I’ll turn off the low latency mode and continue mixing.
So I wouldn’t expect an answer that’s going to allow you to continue hearing all processing being done while also using input monitoring. It’s just too much for a lot of systems to handle.
@JeremyFoxMusic thank you for the response! Seriously appreciate it.
Very great thanks for this tutorial. How did you build drum track stack ? i just find separate by note pitch but can not control like when i mute the kick it's also mute all track in stack
Thanks! I actually have a video that teaches you how to build track stacks, as well as a few other things. Here it is, th-cam.com/video/C7k-8zrHu_0/w-d-xo.html
@@JeremyFoxMusic thanks jeremy
Didn’t feel like I learned a lot without going into detail on the plug-ins and how to use them, especially considering the title of the video.
The template I downloaded only shows 4 tracks. Is it still active?
It’s still active. Maybe try the download again? I haven’t changed anything to the download so it should still be exactly the same.
How did you make the midi drum stacking?
It’s called a Track Stack. I show how to create them in this video; th-cam.com/video/C7k-8zrHu_0/w-d-xo.html
Unpopular opinion but lower the background music by 6db
Cool cool. This is the first time I gave bg music a try, possibly a bit too loud. Will try a bit softer next time.
@@JeremyFoxMusic I would get rid of it actually. Easier for you to edit as well :)
I actually noticed the background music and wondered for a minute if it was part if the track you were editing 🤣 (I liked it but maybe down a smidge while you are talking) .
Great video mate! This guitar sound is not in my usual lane but you have given me a great place to start experimenting looking for that sound. Thanks so much for the template!
Word! Overall A-grade video! Thanks!
:)
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Nice! Thank you!
You’re welcome! 🤘