...And along the top of the unit (along the same side where the output jack and ac/dc power adapter plugs in) and also along its right side, if you have some kobiconn 3.5mm minijacks, you can solder the jacks right to the PCB underneath it’s ‘patch bay’, to upgrade the pin header patch row for legit plug ins for proper patch cables. This disposes of the need for destructive surgery to be done on patch cables. There’s also an upgrade kit to integrate proper minijack sockets, I think it’s called the Moog Werkstatt CV upgrade kit, retails for probably 30 ‘quid’ as you say in that there ‘Olde World’ of yours. It seems to accommodate the jacks comfortably inside the chassis on the side walls, although it’s a tight fit. I used a hand drill and put the holes for the inlets as low as they could go while still fitting, being careful about any exposed leads since it’s a cramped space once you’ve added wiring. I’m definitely happy about modding that part, though maybe a breakout box would be an easier solution and would leave much more empty space for any other mods you might decide on in the future. Thanks for demonstrating a few patching ideas, I always like to study the points people patch from/to, because everybody is unique, and with this stuff we like to expose what’s surprised us. My favorite is KeyBoard_out/LFO_in, LFO_out/VCO_in, to get dual oscillator action going. THANKS AGAIN!:)
hardly any one talks of sticking in a 3 octave keyboard to this thing eh ? and how diff is it , to mother32 now sound wise ?? or too damn close maybe ?
@@cameronlovelace4248 Cool thanks! Synths used on my songs. JD-XI, Access Virus, Novation K Station, Analogue Lab, Syntronix, Misc. samples from analogue synths I've owned. My favorite albums on there are Rhythmicon, Bliss Kiss and In This Moment.
+ArtyoneT Hey there, you can use CV gate to sync to interface with other synths, drum machines or whatever. Also you can use the patch bay to experiment with syncing the LFO and VCO to other synths too. Check out this fella's video to see what's possible - th-cam.com/video/t20Gd8S2JPQ/w-d-xo.html
gvp999999 Yes indeed, there’s the same EG/VCA switch select in the upper right corner just as on the Mother32. Bypasses the envelope and just drones the tone, and then shifts to the next keyed note, applying glide value.
Not straight out of the box, no. An additional part from Moog can expand it to be controlled by CV. MIDI is possible, if you're technically minded, but requires a bit of work!
This is serious fun and has some rich fun in it, but people spend a lot of time in videos making some pretty hideous sounds with this that do the system absolutely no justice.
michaelbryczysz I have to agree, as much as I think this thing is really cool, the price is steep. Though I'd have to admit that if you paired 3 of these up... which is the price of a subphatty, you get a ton of sonic potential. Linking 3 of these and going nuts. Still, it's a bit broken with those tiny, ungrounded cables that you can't easily interface with anything else. If you're sick of your standard consumer synth and want to really get down and dirty, making your own cables and your own sequencer, etc. you could really make good use of this. IMHO, all synths should have the DIY potential, with mod points like the Volcas have.
Well, I own the Werkstatt now, and trust me: the Microbrute and the Bassstation 2 suck balls against this! First time in a while that I feel I'm not going to return or resell a new synth. The Microbrute sounds always metallic and the Bs 2 just flat. Just use your ears man... The Minitaur is cool and all, but does only do bass sounds and isn't patchable.
+Goth108 You must got tin in your ears then because the MB sounds pretty darn fat to me (for a single vco synth), the only time it sounds metal is with the metalizer up, and I really dig shredding like that, with a touch of brute factor of course. Even better with my Microzwerg chained to it.
The 2020 version comes with the CV expander
...And along the top of the unit (along the same side where the output jack and ac/dc power adapter plugs in) and also along its right side, if you have some kobiconn 3.5mm minijacks, you can solder the jacks right to the PCB underneath it’s ‘patch bay’, to upgrade the pin header patch row for legit plug ins for proper patch cables. This disposes of the need for destructive surgery to be done on patch cables. There’s also an upgrade kit to integrate proper minijack sockets, I think it’s called the Moog Werkstatt CV upgrade kit, retails for probably 30 ‘quid’ as you say in that there ‘Olde World’ of yours. It seems to accommodate the jacks comfortably inside the chassis on the side walls, although it’s a tight fit. I used a hand drill and put the holes for the inlets as low as they could go while still fitting, being careful about any exposed leads since it’s a cramped space once you’ve added wiring. I’m definitely happy about modding that part, though maybe a breakout box would be an easier solution and would leave much more empty space for any other mods you might decide on in the future. Thanks for demonstrating a few patching ideas, I always like to study the points people patch from/to, because everybody is unique, and with this stuff we like to expose what’s surprised us. My favorite is KeyBoard_out/LFO_in, LFO_out/VCO_in, to get dual oscillator action going. THANKS AGAIN!:)
I have a Moog Minitaur and I can see this perhaps as an extra OSC with independent controls to wack into the Minitaur via it`s Audio in
great idea. I also have a Minitaur. Can you explain the process of making the Werkstatt an extra osc?
Mylar, is that you?
Hello.
hardly any one talks of sticking in a 3 octave keyboard to this thing eh ?
and how diff is it , to mother32 now sound wise ?? or too damn close maybe ?
This sounds just like my M32 but with less unusable crap.
Cool demo, thank you.
I wish people would make something musical sounding instead of squelches and burps on synth demos.
You should make your wish come true and make some musical synth demos! I’d watch!
@@cameronlovelace4248 Check my TH-cam there's 5 full albums of me doing my synths so to speak. :)
Pulse2AM Alright! I’ll check it out!
@@cameronlovelace4248 Cool thanks! Synths used on my songs. JD-XI, Access Virus, Novation K Station, Analogue Lab, Syntronix, Misc. samples from analogue synths I've owned. My favorite albums on there are Rhythmicon, Bliss Kiss and In This Moment.
Have you used this exact instrument to make synths?
Great demo!
DECENT DEMO CHEERS
Isn't it like a Mother 32?
Good demo. Thanks.
thanks,
step 1= glide...most important...if you want to use keyb.
They couldn't just include a simple input signal huh?
interface it with another synth? please explain
+ArtyoneT Hey there, you can use CV gate to sync to interface with other synths, drum machines or whatever. Also you can use the patch bay to experiment with syncing the LFO and VCO to other synths too. Check out this fella's video to see what's possible - th-cam.com/video/t20Gd8S2JPQ/w-d-xo.html
oh ok. Thank you
Is the Werkstatt noisy? I have the Korg Monotron and I don't like how noisy it is and also it makes the annoying pop when I release the ribbon.
+I967 No, I'd say the werkstatt is significantly less "crusty" sounding, seems to have a clearer signal path perhaps.
+GUITARGUITAR Oh, great - thanks for the reply!
Where can I get cables that convert from this jack size to 3.5mm?
I do not own this, but I assume you can just make them yourself.
Great vid man thanks
I'd really like one now seeing this
Peace and love from Bristol, England
Hello MylarMelodies, good to put a face to a name.
I like moog synths, but this demo is just noise. I would like to hear an actual melody.
Can this hold a note without having to hold a key down? I'd want to use it for droning. Cheers.
gvp999999 Yes indeed, there’s the same EG/VCA switch select in the upper right corner just as on the Mother32. Bypasses the envelope and just drones the tone, and then shifts to the next keyed note, applying glide value.
@@jimmy_jamesjams_a_lot4171 ok, thanks a lot for the answer.
@@jimmy_jamesjams_a_lot4171 Thanks for the answer!
Awesome
Why is the demo guy scared of highs?
+Goth108 He's straight edge
Get rekt
Can it be controlled by a MIDI keyboard? If so, how?
Not straight out of the box, no. An additional part from Moog can expand it to be controlled by CV. MIDI is possible, if you're technically minded, but requires a bit of work!
He needs more monitors.
The rabbit hole... is not actually a rabbit hole
sounds like a better monotron, nothing that worth the price and the name moog ...
Cool toy, but way to expensive for a diy mini synth
Like a simple Mother 32
Your out of focus intro gave me a headache.
This is serious fun and has some rich fun in it, but people spend a lot of time in videos making some pretty hideous sounds with this that do the system absolutely no justice.
Different sound ... and a different sound ... and so what ?
For the price Moog want for this it's still a joke when you can get the bassstation 2 or microBrute x2 for the same price
Use your ears to compare them, not your eyes.
I am
For a few $ extra you can buy an Minitaur an actual good moog
michaelbryczysz I have to agree, as much as I think this thing is really cool, the price is steep. Though I'd have to admit that if you paired 3 of these up... which is the price of a subphatty, you get a ton of sonic potential. Linking 3 of these and going nuts.
Still, it's a bit broken with those tiny, ungrounded cables that you can't easily interface with anything else.
If you're sick of your standard consumer synth and want to really get down and dirty, making your own cables and your own sequencer, etc. you could really make good use of this.
IMHO, all synths should have the DIY potential, with mod points like the Volcas have.
Well, I own the Werkstatt now, and trust me: the Microbrute and the Bassstation 2 suck balls against this! First time in a while that I feel I'm not going to return or resell a new synth. The Microbrute sounds always metallic and the Bs 2 just flat. Just use your ears man... The Minitaur is cool and all, but does only do bass sounds and isn't patchable.
+Goth108 You must got tin in your ears then because the MB sounds pretty darn fat to me (for a single vco synth), the only time it sounds metal is with the metalizer up, and I really dig shredding like that, with a touch of brute factor of course. Even better with my Microzwerg chained to it.
Hey hey hey can someone make this a meme?
Hey hey hey no.
Why?
Nervous hands. Drink less Red Bull.
Worthless.