It's Easy to Blame Everything Other Than Yourself, Even in Fighting Games
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- streamed Apr. 19, 2023
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INSTEAD OF REFLECTING ON THEMSELVES, THEY BLAMED THE BEASTS
HEAVEN OR HELL
@@NrettGDUEL ONE
LET'S ROCK
STUN DIPPA
literally the reason this line exists in this game im pretty sure xD
I am Celestial rank. In game but not mentally. Ky is preventing me from reaching my peak, because I'm a Potemkin main.
nah wait till ya fight bridget or chaos thats the true pot struggle
Then play Potemkin?
Yah, that's silly.
Typical fraudulent Potemkin player
@@redboss5429 Just following the meme template in the video. I'm well aware of how retard friendly bridget and many other cast members are.
Your comment is the fucking sauce
If she texted me back I would've won the Million Dollar CPT by now.
More like the million dollar CBT
@@Zant5976 hey, look at SF6- A Closed Beta Test would be priceless right about now
the 5 years I've been playing fighting games, the most improvement I've noticed was when I stopped blaming my character choice and started blaming myself for my own faults. Applies to all aspects of life. The faster you can admit your own faults and take responsibility for your actions, the faster you will improve as a person.
This so much!
Came in the comment just to say this. Heck, GGST is my first fighting game and it made me learn how to accept mistakes and go beyond them. At first it was in game, and then in life. It's probably the first time playing a game impacted my everyday life this much, and I'll be forever grateful to the supreme Daisuke.
Remember to maintain balance . For the longest time I blamed everything (in game and out ) solely upon myself and took things too hard, and that even though you need to own your mistakes you can’t let them define you like I did
The first fault in question was probably making the worse decision at the character select screen
“ky is holding me back” is so funny when you watch people in brackets play ky at the highest level
it feels so great to be the catalyst behind such a quote. Also just to clear things up he was a floor 9, but he played like a floor 7 lmao
The rat is here even on TH-cam huh.
@@D4C_267 mmmm I need… I need cheese mmm rat cheese
Oh Lord have mercy he's even here too. If he didn't call you a rat I wouldn't have known who this was.
@@D4C_267 please do tell us again how Ky is worse than Anji and Faust. We all want to end the week on a high note.
Let me guess how he plays.
Every jump back is an air stun edge.
If that pushback landed him full screen it's charged stun edge.
After single s stun edge block is followed immediately by foudre arc.
Every 5k in the corner is followed by 5D, every 5k outside the corner is grab.
“My dog ate my inputs”
I love Go1's interview where he said if you pick a low tier you have to have pride in it and not use it as an excuse. These arguments about being the character, not you are so self-defeating, you can always change characters. I feel like admitting your own shortcomings is way better for you as a player. If the problem is on you, you can always improve. If the issue is always beyond your control, any effory is vain
Look man you don't get it D4C is running on a parallel plane of existence out here, absolutely the BEST player in Strive BY FAR, truly a GOAT of all time, mentally untouchable fr fr
We should tell our universe version that
"I play Terran, the hardest race" got me way harder then it should've.
my favorite part about Starcraft is every race truly believes, to the core of their very being that their race is the hardest/most honest race ever made and both other races are playing lego. that said, typical terran balance whiner
@@altonamore6154 ive never seen a Protoss who’s gaslighted themself to that point lol(at least for sc2)
Im not very good at start craft and played terran, I think zerg is the hardest, terrain are middle to easy, and protoss are the easiest Whenever i play toss if I had carriers i probably won.
this is an actual valuable life lesson. thank you for the lecture sajam.
I had a conversation with some friends about why I don't like team games lately and it got me thinking. When I win in a team game I'm painfully aware about how I didn't do anything to deserve that win. When I win in a fighting game I know for a fact that I did all the work.
Sure you don't have anyone to share the blame with if you lose in a FG, but on the flip side, you know you earned that win when you win.
I think everybody feels this way sometimes, really appreciate your take of "It's ok to feel the feelings, but what you do about them matters"
My character goes on forums to complain how I'm holding them back
That tweet literally sounds like a skill issue. I feel like people should play a top tier character and see how well they do and then decide if it’s the character or them.
Man I blame myself for everything and I find that extremely easy, competitively minded people with pride are a different species
I hope this humility is a strength for you - Mr. Haughty Garbage
@@coalminecanary1277 lmao not always but sometimes keeps me honest
You got it backwards. Being critical of your own play is being competitively minded because it helps you improve and get better. Excuses is the opposite of being competitive, you don't care about improving or earning anything.
I'm just as bad but on the other end of the scale, I freak out a little if someone suggests it wasn't my fault I lost.
If the problem is the ranking system, or my character, or the fact that she didn't text me back, then there's nothing I can do to fix it and that terrifies me.
"She still hasn't text me back yet" is the Teresa special
Context?
the "my dog ate my inputs" is great, and I am going to steal it.
How I learned to cope with getting salty is to get into the habit of jokingly getting mad for like 2 seconds, then actually step back and be like "ggs, i got outplayed, we'll get 'em next time"
I'll barely lose a match and I'll just go NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO for like 2 seconds and then turn around and congratulate the person who beat me
This worked really well when i got smoked by an HC player and i immediately went into the "jokingly mald, then move on" habit. It stopped me from just jumping into seriously malding and instead give them props, move on, and learn for next time. Counteracting any frustration I'm feeling by being kind and congratulating my opponent because i know that they're happy they won a match and they don't deserve me getting upset taking that away from them
Learning to take Ls is so important, and I'm glad I feel like I can say I've learned how to, even if I'm not great at fighting games ^^;
I NEVER reached Celestial, always failed the challenges, but I am fine with it and I am glad about it because I stop playing and come back and I don't grind enough since I want to chill more playing instead of going hardcore so I bounce between 8th and 10th floor constantly, but I never in my life blamed other thing than myself for not being good enough at something, and mainly because I play also a lot of characters in the same fighting game, which obviously sometimes makes thing easier or harder depending on which one I am playing, but at the end my skill should carry me, not the character, and I simply must keep growing and having fun with the game.
I feel this is why I love StarCraft II as well as Fighting Games this much, it is a 1v1 game, you can only blame yourself, no teammates or other bs, it is you vs another person and that's all
So I play Millia since the release of Strive, and I knew what I was signing up for when I explode from one hit. I never blame the character but myself, but I would end up making poor decision-making and not have a reason to go for it. But after enough practice, I competed at DreamHack San Diego and ended up playing better than I could've been before! Learning at your own pace is your progress. Progress is key.
Between this guy and the Millia guy, we're never gonna run out of entertainment
ya mean lk? just askin
@@redboss5429 there's a guy who runs around in everyone's comment sections ranting about how Millia is bottom 1 and the worst character ever in fighting games, pretty commonly in LK's comments even after he dropped the character
@@auroraborealis4468 It seems like he doesn't even play strive, idk why he cares so much about her placement.
@@auroraborealis4468 We absolutely love that guy.
As annoying as he is, the Millia guy isn't wrong about Millia.
The real true combo is you say "so true bestie" and "lmao"
I am celestial rank. In-game but not mentally. Potemkin is carrying me to my peak.
i am mentally in celestial but physically in floor 8
There are only two solutions: grind until your physical matches your mental or realizing that your mental isn't as high as you think it is and figuring out what assumptions you're making wrong...
Speaking as a gold league with "Diamond" mental and bronze physical.
@@kevingriffith6011 i’m joking man i’m not close to celestial bruh that gap is WIDE
Man listen....I'm a top tier player, but my lack of consistency when it comes to execution and getting outplayed holds me back.
Full AP Warwick is holding me back frfr
When I meet people like this, I ask them when the last time they lost due to a skill gap rather than some extraneous factor that prevented them from winning and the answers are usually pretty surprising. "I only lose because of bullshit" is super common.
So funny story, I've recently started to play Apex Legends because I've never played a competitve fps game before and my friends wanted me to try a challenge of "you have 30 days of playing just ranked to see where you can get to" as a fun thing to do. What's crazy is that after about 2 weeks at this point I'm almost gold (silver 1 atm) and they are all super impressed because they are all gold with close to 1k hours for them, and they wonder how I do it. Honestly all I can tell them is that every loss I just tell myself how I messed up and take a mental note of it like "maybe dropping like that wasn't smart and I should give up that spot instead" or "I missed a lot of shots I need to go to the training room and practice with that gun" which is something I learned from fighting games.
I actually have the opposite problem where I blame myself too hard and instead of getting angry because of the other person I get extremely angry at myself which in turn prevents me from actually getting better
I can never find the right balance
What’s helped me is instead of looking inward for someone to blame, I don’t look for anything to blame. Just “what happened that game, and why?”. Simple reflection rather than dogpiling on yourself is far far more effective.
Why'd you ever get angry at the other person tho
Wtf does this even mean?
Yeah, I have a tendency to overanalyze and over criticize my plays
I think the only time I heard an excuse that made sense for rank not matching skill was in OW. They added a role queue, had rank decay and DPS queue was 10+ minutes at peak times. By the time you got to the last two ranks finding a match as DPS would take 20 mins+ while games lasted around 15 to 25mins. You'd end up spending more time looking for matches than playing.
Completely understood why people wouldn't have the time to play enough matches to get their rank to match their skill.
One time it took me and a friend literally half an hour to find a game even though I was playing support. We were like plat/diamond at the time too so weren't far off average rank
The league comparisons are useful because your mental is so important in both league and fighting games. Something that helped me in league (and I'm using in fighting games) is from a video from a league youtuber I like. He made a mistake and immediately said "if we lose now it's 100% my fault". While initially that felt a little harsh, I think holding yourself to those high standards can be really helpful. Obviously you shouldn't be beating yourself up over losses or mistakes, but you should have the confidence to be able to say that some mistake turned a winning game into a losing one.
Classic floor 10 Ky. Probably does run up full screen stun dipper the moment they have 50 meter.
I was not expecting a Hunt:Showdown clip lmao.
I feel that, even in Siege when someone dies cooking a frag.
The Blitz was in my eyes, the Rook ate my bullets, etc.
“My dog ate my inputs” got me rolling 😂
Once I understood what match-ups are, I stopped lying to myself. I get frustrated when I’m not good with a character I like, when that character might have a lot of bad match-ups, and both.
It also sucks when you have to play an unfun way to win some match-ups. I’ll just take the L, as long as I understand why I’m losing😅
If you keep thinking your character is holding you back - time to pickup a new character.
I feel this a lot maining Faust since for the longest time he wasn'tgreat in Strive but after taking time to think about the opponent's gameplan in some of the worst matchups I beat celestial challenge yesterday :)
I'm glad a chatter brought up the Artosis connection.
As a terrible CEO once inappropriately said about workers asking for a pay increase after taking a multimillion dollar pay increase themselves, you can visit Pity City but you can't move there.
I learned recently that they use to make breathalyzer cell phones that would prevent you from drunk dialing. They need to do that shit for post-tourney loss tweeting.
I noticed that I stopped blaming characters for anything after thinking to myself "would daigo lose to this guy" and it makes you realize it has nothing to do with character and everything to do with actual skill
That's an extreme way of thinking. You're on the right track though
I am still learning strive I'm just recently able to play since Xbox release. My combos aren't the best I'm still having trouble putting in these weird half circle supers but when I win or I lose I can tell that it is purely because of me not my character. I know not to beat myself up too much and take every match as a learning experience to get better, improve and catch up to everyone else who's had this game for years now.
Keep it up!
I had this realization not that long ago, I don't know if it's because I've been playing other comp games alongside the FG's I play or what but I realized part of what makes me angry at other players and the things they do isn't so much their fault as I'm mad I fell for it and can't adjust (either because my choice of adjustments isn't working how I want it to or I can't execute properly) and I'm losing to it.
I feel like I'm better than what I'm losing to but I'm not and my opponents getting cocky because of that is on no one but me. I still fall into that mindset after long sets or playing Valo or something all day, but I noticed that I can clock my improvements as a player way better now that I noticed what actually pissed me off instead of projecting it outwards.
I forget if it was a recent video or an older one I watched recently from you, you said something that has stuck with me. "If you dont believe in your character, you shouldn't play them." It's perfectly fine to play low tier characters, but if you dont believe you can win, you should play someone else.
I appreciate these sort of thoughts from Sajam, very wholesome
I like to see myself as a very lucid person but I have to admit I Kinda have that sort of thinking when it comes to the bullet-nine matchup in BBCF (with me as bullet).
This is why I love playing high and top tiers. It gives me the assurance that no matter what, every loss is fully on me.
I know it's bad and wrong but I get more triggered by a statement like this than the one in the video. Like I'd rather hang out with the dude who plays what he wants but whines a bit than the guy who only plays top tiers because they're top tier lmao
I love that this is marked as a Hunt: Showdown video from that clip lol
He's right. When I played 5 I main Cammy got her to diamond and switch to ken. The moment I realized how much I was losing with ken, I started thinking about the things ken doesn't have instead of looking at what im doing with the character.
I never believed in blaming anyone but yourself because it seems obvious that putting your failures on anything else is detrimental to your progress. Instead, I'm eternally in the stage where it genuinely brings me down realizing how bad I am. I can accept that everything that goes wrong for me in a match (besides internet issues maybe) is my fault, but I have trouble going from there. Translating these thoughts into improvement is something I haven't learned yet. Idk if this is as common of an issue because I don't see as many people talking about it.
You might want to try learning about self-worth theory. You should try to decouple your performance from your view of self-worth which will make it easier to detach and notice what you are doing wrong. Generally mid game I have these moments where I mentally blank out and do something random or on instinct and that is I think a huge red flag about what you need to work on. Top players almost never do what "feels" good, they have a thought behind every action. Playing with intent and thought will cost you games early on but those are just growing pains.
We are wired to protect our self-image - for better and worse
Having been in Celestial for the last year and a half or so, I really ping pong between 'holy fuck Millia sucks' and 'holy shit I'm so carried by her', cuz I either run the goddamn blender all game or get two touched by literally everyone in the game but Chipp lmao
That's what we call *BALANCED*
I've been playing fighting games for 6 years. I'm at the point where I have no clue what I could possibly be doing wrong. My brain is the size of a galaxy and I can see all the tachions moving in both directions, yet when I input Heavy Mob Cemetery it just doesn't come out and sometimes my buttons don't do anything. What else could I blame except the fragility of computers. Clearly an electron must've switched some bytes of code and that's why my grab cancel didn't come out.
Ego really makes up almost all of every personal problem. It's crazy how much you learn and grow once you drop ego bullshit.
Fucking “my dog ate my inputs” is just so brilliant. I will use that in a lan tourney next time when I got 0-2.
I'm not Ultra Bronze, I'm a temporarily embarrassed Warlord.
not even a minute in and this dude touched his hair like 20x times lol!
Gotta wake up in and the morning and remind myself I’m shit at fighting games and that’s okay.
My character, a birth defect I cannot escape from the day I walked this cursed Earth, is the reason I cannot succeed. Every time I try and pick any other character, my own genes betray me. For you it is a character select, for me it is a mirror into my own weakness.
Sajam's Celestial. In sound but not in looks. His hair is preventing him from reaching his peak.
How did I not know that sajam plays hunt? That's so hype that game is sick
Jokes on you, I always blame only myself, even if I did nothing wrong (month ago started therapy)
I think an important thing to realize is yes, every character can win and get to the highest ranks, but some undeniably have a harder time achieving that. You really have to weigh how good you are against how bad your character is, and question if your love for the character is worth potentially not seeing your peak, whatever that may be. in SFV for instance, a decent player will very likely be able to climb higher playing Luke than they would playing a super low-tier character.
I am the Evo Champion. Mentally but not irl. Jack-O' is preventing me from reaching my peak
I know I suck and that's why I'm stuck on floor 10 as Potemkin, I don't wanna learn all the extra stuff. I will stick with my basic kPB, kHK and kGI.
Reminds me of a certain millia player
Praise Konakon
Weakest Millia's fan 🗿
I suck because I don't understand fighting games. So I'm learning. I'm pretty sure Ky needs to put his opponent in shock state. I'm also trying out some simple combos and resisting the urge to mash. Lol
Hey man, some of us are just doing our part for anji buffs. Look how effective it’s been so far. He’ll be top 3 next patch at this rate and the stocks only go up. It’s not too late to invest.
Each new era of the FGC is heralded by a new DSP. Someone needs to get that guy streaming before he melts into a puddle of slime from sheer saltiness.
imagine thinking a character with a move like Stun Dipper is preventing you from reaching celestial
Love this video.
The worst part is people like this make it really harder for others to realize that Ky does in fact need some good buffs. They just give fuel to the garbo "all Ky mains are downplayers" meme and when Arcsys finally buff Ky everybody's going to be blindsided and scream bloody murder, potentially causing another kneejerk reaction nerf like they did in the beta.
i am starting to recognize that I'm really bad at a game but have a lot of trouble trying to recognize what exactly im doing wrong and how to play against certain match ups like i keep getting messed up by baraka in mk bc i don't know how to punish him for mashing
Okay so what do I do if I have the opposite where I over blame myself so much that I loose games cause I get pissed that I'm not playing perfect?
Oh shit the hidden tech. Being celestial or warlord is a mentality got it
Wait yo Sajam is streaming Hunt? Let's go
As a Ky main, I wish my 2S were 10 frames faster
When I played Street Fighter 4 online I could separate players into three groups. I considered myself to be a 2/3 out of these groups. The weakest players would love playing Ryus master online because you did not have to unlock him. The online game would just give you this character you had to earn. I could not earn that character until I had built up over time toward the end of the time I was playing online. The next group like myself gravitated toward the Ryu characters like Ryu, Ken, Akuma, Dan. Then, you had the top players. The majority of the players who would destroy me match after match were playing Chunli and Rufus. Every one of the best players had paid to unlock the alternate skin for the character. I knew I was going to get destroyed when I saw alternate Chunli or Rufus. I had around a 50% win ratio for my matches.
I'm celestial rank. Both mentally and in game. Ramlethal has no effect on me reaching my peak.
I feel like it's different tho if say:
You already PLAY the broken character but he's no fun anymore so you try to look for new characters but nothing fits your playstyle
My perfect option select is that I don't have time to practice. Never fails to shift the blame.
For real though, there's no harm in making scrubby excuses to protect your ego, as long as you stay self-aware that is what it is, and don't repeat them so often you start to believe it.
Based on the title I first thought this video was about Punk, lol.
As a fellow Ky main, I can understand the struggle to get to Celestial with Ky.
But in the other hand, as a young 1 week Celestial dweller, I can prove it is doable to be Celestial! I hope the Ky main you're talking about get to open his eyes and manage to get through this struggle while staying true to his main!
2:57 stop why does every single point apply to me wtf
ok but if i had a better anti-air on m bison i'd be warlord though
But this is actually something I really like about fighting games. I feel when I play League of Legends, for example, that there were so many variables that were outside of my control when I lose. Because of this, losses feel way more frustrating, and even wins can feel like you didn't deserve them at times. When you lose at a fighting game, if you watch it back and analyze it, you'll realize your opponent was just better- like they knew what they were doing. And then you can watch someone who plays your character better than you do and you'll realize that you could've played in a more ideal way. It's a true learning process.
And it's even easier to blame faust
Lol i hit celestial/vip in a few days went to sf5 and ultra bronze after hundreds of games, it took a while to come to terms with the fact that i actually suck and its just me.
Strive is reeeally good at bringing this attitude out of people ive noticed. Ive been playing skullgirls for like 8 months now and ive had maybe 2 or 3 times where i got there. I went back to strive for a week and i was screaming about how broken nago was lol
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would you say that "I'm just bad, why bother" counts as one of those excuses, but on the other side of the coin
its easy to blame the beast rather than reflect on yourself, even in fighting games
I mash DP on every wake-up, even when I'm the one standing. I still lose. Character is broken
Lol Twitter = proximity chat killed me
Usually when I feel stagnating I watch top player matches of my character. Improvement guaranteed.
That thumbnail LOL
I am the best at Will it Kill. Mentally, but not in actuality. SAJAM is preventing my from reaching my peak. (The combo didn’t kill)
I started taking the 'is it really that deep' approach, I used to get kinda pissy about shit like that, but mayne I realised I aint gotta prove myself to anyone so I just stopped deeping it and started enjoying my sets more, If I lose, thats too bad, I'll go watch my replay figure out what went wrong, If i win, awesome! I won wahoo!
I honestly don't understand the mindset that leads to this. I can't relate. Maybe (probably?) because I've never taken a fighting game that seriously-or any game, really-I've just never run into that wall of "I would've won if X that wasn't my fault". At worst I'll point out things that were buggy/unlucky/not in my favor (ex: Left 4 Dead 1v1 vs matches, when you get bumped off a fatal fall and are hanging and all three of your AI teammates just stand on top of you instead of pulling you up, hilarious way to lose), but even then it's not in the context of "I'm better than you/I should've won that." It's just like, ah, shit, this happened, and laugh it off and move on.
Fighting games in particular? If I'm playing some fighter and get absolutely stomped and I think it's a character issue? I'm not complaining about it; I'm *immediately* trying out my opponent's character to see how hard it is to crush somebody else the way they just rolled me. Chances are it's not going to be as easy as it felt on the receiving end, and maybe I'll learn something about it in the process. Cool! And move right along.
Why be mad? I don't get it.