Rode Lav vs PinMic vs Sennheiser ME2
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Also note that the Lavalier & PinMic come with a 10 year extended warranty when purchased from authorised dealers if you ever have any issues with the connectors or mic.
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Extended warranty is a plus but unfortunately I switched from Rode Pinmic to Sennheiser MK40, sorry dudes but the Sennheiser sound is from another planet and the comparison makes the Rode sounds like a cheap mic.
Buy a Rode connector or cable & you are going to need that warranty sooner than later.
@@techdaniel9426 I feel exactly the same here. To voice alone the difference is notable. And senheiser products last forever, I have some gear from them that have more tham a decade.
Great video Dave! Thanks for the mention too. I highly recommend these Rode lavs.
Thanks for your effort. I have a RodeLink wireless mic set that I haven't yet tested on the job, but already have ordered a Pin Mic to give me the option of using it when desired.
David, thank you very much for this detailed review! I am user of Pinmic but it is broken after 2 weeks of recordings and looks like i will get Lav. thank you!
I like the sound of RODE pinmic. It was truly awesome and love your channel
Hello Dave. I found with the Sennheiser, when I used these a few years ago, That turning the 'mic body' off axis slightly would cut some of the sibilance. Also at 90 degrees or even inverted. You know, the technique for talent that doesn't keep within a level range when speaking if you're not using a limiter.
It might be a personal preference, but I almost always hate the sound of Rode mics. Lots of bass, but the high frequencies are missing.
In my opinion: The Sennheiser wins big time. You can always take down the high frequencies, but you can't boost them a lot if they are just missing (Rode). The PinMic sounds pretty convincing, it doesn't have the usual Rode overpronounced bass. It sounds like there is a gap at around 1000 Hertz which makes the voice a little "hollow". And the Rode lav just sounds like a Rode. Kind of "cool", but terrible to really work with.
Especially considering the price, I'll go with the Sennheiser any day.
Thank you! Just commented the exact same thing! Although I would add, that you CAN actually "boost" the highs if missing by simply attenuating the mid-lows. This way you pronounce more the highs!
@@ZodiacMusicPro And in the end it's way better to add something in post if you want more of it, rather than removing something that's hardly embedded in the sound source natively. The esses are horrible on the Sennheiser ME2. Don't get me wrong, i'm a sennheiser fan, i own their HD800 flagship headphones. But right now I'm monitoring this video on my DT770 Pro 250Ohm plugged into high end RME converters and it's the ME2 that sounds thin, harsh and sibilant as if the lows and even some of the mids are missing. The Rode Lav on the other hand sounds really good in the mid frequencies, the highs aren't that prominent but to me that's a good thing, it works great right away and i don't have to use a de-esser as if i'd need to if dealing with ME2 mics on especially a female voice. I also sent the video on my iphone 12 pro max just to test the audio on a phone speaker (as most of us would hear this video if we're not near our equipment) and again, the Rode Lav sounded best on the phone's speaker as well. Rode got it right in the mid frequencies and that makes it sound way more cinematic than how the ME2 sounds like. I'm sorry to disappoint Florian who based on his name he's german and it's completely fine to be a patriot and support his own country's brand, but i'm american and not an Australian and i love both Sennheiser and Rode for audio equipment, but Lav mics in that price range i'd chose the Rode one over the ME2 anyday.
Ground sticks out on rode XLR it should help prevent shorts or noise when inserting.
Great comparison.
Dave Dugdale I have a pin mic and where I find it is so handy, is in an interview. The pin mic has an omni-directional pattern and picks up sound well from other people who are closeby and may feel daunted with a mic in their face.
great test and review!
Your review helped me decide to pull the trigger on the PinMic, which I need for an upcoming project. Thank you! I purchased through your gear page to show appreciation.
excellent video - and audio , thank you
Good review. I have the rode lav and I find it great.
I like the sound of the rode, but as you say the Sennheiser with its extra high freq response will sound good under a thin layer of clothes as it cut the highs of a bit.
thanks as always for your Videos.
Pin 3 on the RØDE is MEANT to be longer, so the Earth contact touches first. It is by design. :)
Funny about the quality control - everything I have bought from RODE has been great but the connectors / cables have had faults. Quickly replaced but def an area they need to look at.
Hey Dave very informative video, Nailed it as always but I have a question for you. I am looking into getting the Roland R-05 which has a very high popularity rating on B&H and actually made me change my mind from getting the Zoom H5 because it was about 60$ cheaper. Do you think using the Roland on its own would be fine or would getting a really cheap lav be a better option. And if so what lav would you recommend.
HOW to connect Lumix G80 + Lav Mic Sennheiser ME 2-II? This locking metal thing prevents me to connect it all the way directly to my camera and moc only records left channel. How did you do this?
Nice comparison, Dave. :)
Hey Dave, it would be great if you could do some series on how to record great audio, edit, how to mix it and so on. :)
Hello Dave! Is the problem between the GH4 and the Rode Pro Mic fixed? I just ordered a rode for my GH4 before viewing this video.
Awesome channel btw! :)
Thank You for the review. Does Sennheiser ME2 work on the video mode? Let's say i want to use it for video recording purpose. Will it work on my iphone?
Hey Dave, thanks for the video :) Do you use a recording device with your lavs? If so what are you using in the video?
Can you plug any of these mics directly into the camera?
That pin-mic song is really good; catchy it is.
Dave, most broadcasters on my side of the Pond (Europe) place lavs with the element facing down instead of toward the speakers mouth. This placement mostly eliminates plosives. Didn't hear that problem in your reviews, but you should try it sometime.
Thanks for that tip, I will have to try that.
Is this microphone better than the audio technica 3350?
how you plug sennheiser me-2 to a pc? it has this ring thing...
Hi Dave, can you give me any suggestions around improving a person’s voice in terms of richness and depth postproduction. I find their voice to be quite pitchy and not very pleasant to listen to for instructional videos. I’m open to both software and hardware suggestions.
But which is better?
which is the best to use under clothing?
What is the camera that you use to record these videos? Also what camera can you recommend for the best Bang to Buck ratio?
New video. Dave I am like more rode lav. And Dave I am want to buy the canon 600d for start what your think ?
I heard Dave was the DP on the The Love Boat.
Your videos are great
I see that large computer case, can I ask for the specs?
The Rode Lav seems interesting, I perceive the Rode brand as being very high quality. Is this correct?
Sennheiser rocks been using it for 20 years great for undershirt or jacket great for weddings and commercials
Dave, You should place mic head a distance from the cloth, Just like when you mount them on collar. Because The pain of fabric that mic sit on tend to resonate the high frequency which create "Sibilance".
Interesting, I have never heard of this. Do you have any examples you can share?
Dave Dugdale Oh! some mistake, Depend on what type of fabric mic sit on. Any kind of synthetic fibre will most affected.
I think it's preferred way to mount some distance away from cloth.
Also the Grid windscreen of Sennheiser ME2 was design to make more presence. Very opposite to Rode which Foam windscreen decrease presence.
Dave Dugdale Just try to mount it properly. The mic head have to not sit on the cloth and you will see the different.
Great video! Need some help with next: I have a problem connecting a Sennheiser ME2 to my Zoom H6 recorder. I found out the screw mount of the ME2 mini jack is blocking full connection to a mini-jack-jack-adapter to get it proper connected to one of te XLR/Jack inputs of the H6. Why the hack does the ME2 has this crew mount mini jack? What can I do about it to connect the mic to the H6? There is also the thing about 7.5V phantom power which the mic needs to work. So far I know the Zoom H6 only provides 12V, 24V and 48V...
+MillitzFilm If you are connecting the microphone directly to the zoom then you need to use one of the Sennheiser cables (CL-1 for TRS and CL-2 XLR female or CL-100 XLR male). That will give you the correct input into the recorder and leave you with 2 male Sennheiser TRS couplings on the cable and microphone. From there you can use a pro signal 3.5 female adapter to connect the two cables. I show the principal in my latest video with the Tascam DR-22WL. It is the same principal just a different Sennheiser cable for the other recorders depending on their input.
Trivia. The Rode PinMic is the same lav used for some ASMR videos
News Moto ASMR is a joke.
i have a question. I want to sing and play the guitar at the same time . can I use this for singing? or is it too sensitive? I don't want to have to carry a microphone stand
If it's for youtube cover videos, i recommend you to comfortably record each performance (vocal and guitar) separately with the highest quality microphone you have available, mix them beautifully inside your DAW to make it sound like a finished record, then shoot the video of yourself with the guitar in your arms singing over the finished song which you exported as an mp3/wav file and lipsync over it, then once your import your video (plus its own bad audio file recorded by the camera), import also your finished mp3 song into premiere on a separate audio track, select both with your mouse at the same time, right click on them once highlighted and select "Synchronize". That function will sync your crisp audio performance with your video performance, then mute the sound of the video and let only the mp3 file audio run. You'll have a beautiful performance syncronized with a good music video for it. Save this comment soon because i'll remove it in 24h.
So if I connect one of these, for example the ME2, to my laptop mic in 3.5mm port, it should work just fine, right?
Will it be a problem (sound wise) if I don't clip it on a piece of t-shirt or whatever, and just clip it on my chest hair? I am not kidding, it gets very hot in here.
I found a ME2 for about 69 euros which I guess is a good price?
+Trusteft That probably won't work unless the couplings are the same. If your laptop is designed to take stereo input only on that port then you might get away with it but many accept input and output (macs in particular) and they use a different pin put. Plus the ME-2 has a screw thread that will stop full contact being made. My latest video covers this subject and how to get around it using a CL-1 cable and female 3.5 adapter. Have a look and that should show you what you need to know.
excellent end of video ))
Isn't there any Sennheiser mic that is like the smartlav+
Svenska Filmuppdrag what about android?
Very good video
4:55 - ALL Rode mics have the 3rd pin stick out further than the other 2. I guess it's a stylistic thing. It's definitely not a problem.
The ground XLR pin (pin 1) is designed to be slightly longer than the other two pins. This is to ensure that when an XLR is plugged into the mic XLR socket the first pin that comes into contact is the ground pin. This feature is implemented in all RØDE microphones to protect the microphone circuitry from a static electricity short that could potentially damage the microphone circuitry.
Thanks Rode! I knew it was a feature, not a discrepancy. I use a ton of your mics, live and in studio, and have never had a problem with your quality control. That's why I was quite surprised to hear Dave complain about it.
yes, even the rode shotgun mic is the same. cheers.
Thanks, I added that correction to an annotation.
but I must admit at first I thought it was cuckoo.
Maybe rode needs to put that notification in a leaflet somewhere :)
What is the different between the Rode smart Lav and the Rode Lav?
Nothing except the pin mic pokes through the clothing whereas the lav clips on
The smartLav uses a TRRS connection found on smartphone devices such as the iPhone & Android devices
RØDE Microphones Thanks! I didn't think Rode would answer
@@WeirdCowHatBoy wrong
You should call this channel Better call Dave
Your resemblance with Saul Goodman is amazing ahaha
I love that show!
You looked like Ted Mosby from How I Met Your Mother in that picture.
You video guys ALL do the same mistake...It's better to ATTENUATE frequencies in post than BOOSTING...So basically better to have more information than needed than trying to bring what's not recorded...
I have a 7D and 70D with a Senn 3G ENG type. as well as a juicedlink. I can get really lovely clean audio from a Shure SM58 in the XLR transmitter, but I'm having tons of problems with the lav getting distorted as the volume gets higher, and tons of room noise. I'm running -36db on the mic and -30db on the receiver. Craziness. Volume on the cams is set to 1 click above 0.
Your room is obviously quiet, but I'm curious what settings you are using because your audio is much cleaner.
OMG Dave! You look just like Ted Mosby from the show "How I Met Your Mother" in that pic on the crew ship!
Thanks!
RØDE PinMic and RØDE Lavalier are identical capsels
I really like your videos Dave, but please, change your composition. It is kinda difficult sometimes to concentrate just on the left side of the screen.
What is your preferred composition?
Dave Dugdale
I think you shouyld use Bach's Minuet in G Major. That's just my preference.
Does Chad Ochocinco have a channel too? lol
Yes I do! And there are lots of audio & video gear reviews there in a playlist. I had to quit the football game. It was making me crazy, and I kept head butting my loved ones.
I'd choose the Sennheiser ME2 because I prefer the sound. It also looks like it's cheaper than the other two! $140 vs $250!
It's cheaper for a reason. Don't mistake brittle high end for quality. The body in the Rod lavs will not wear on you after a long time listening like the brittle, siblent ME-2 will.
Get better headphones...
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