SM58 vs Shure Beta 58a | Which Should You Buy?

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    Finally featuring a showdown between the two Shure mics at the top of the handheld lineup.
    The Shure Beta58a vs The Shure SM58
    Is it worth the price difference?
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    00:00 Intro
    00:15 A Brief History
    01:13 Build Quality
    02:11 Specs
    02:53 Off Axis Rejection for Beta 58a and SM58
    03:38 Plosives Test
    03:51 Handling Noise Test
    04:23 Proximity Effect Test
    04:53 Direct Comparison of Beta 58a and SM58
    06:14 Final Thoughts
    07:20 Which Should You Buy?
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  • @djxhakaza1827
    @djxhakaza1827 2 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    I have been using SM58 for the past 85 years and still going strong, probably i will still use it in the next 85 to 90 years to come

    • @skettdog
      @skettdog ปีที่แล้ว +12

      this guy is like 115 yrs old

    • @JonAnderhub
      @JonAnderhub ปีที่แล้ว

      If it ain't broke don't fix it!

    • @gaffle7646
      @gaffle7646 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He’s talking dog years…

    • @66fitton
      @66fitton ปีที่แล้ว

      🤣

    • @Fiveash-Art
      @Fiveash-Art 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      When 900 years old you reach, ... Look as good, you will not.

  • @DimebagDarrenLowe
    @DimebagDarrenLowe ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i have both, thanks for the run down of these two great mics

  • @limitededition1053
    @limitededition1053 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    SM58, had one for 22 years gigging and its never broke and its been dropped many times and sounds great live.

  • @SUSANBAR31
    @SUSANBAR31 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Thank you for this! I just bought the BETA A using your Amazon link... on sale for $128.00 so I bought an additional 25 ft cable! Rock on!

    • @DarkCornerStudios
      @DarkCornerStudios  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cheers Susan!
      Thanks for supporting the channel!!

  • @ROKZLEON
    @ROKZLEON ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been looking for this video! Thanks for the comparison! 👍🏻

  • @johnroseman9087
    @johnroseman9087 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's why I'm here. Just bought a Beta 58A. Wanted to get a review on it. The salesman recommended it over the SM58, and I liked the sound in the store. Nice review .thanks!✌👍

  • @billvillamusic3625
    @billvillamusic3625 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review man! I’ve been using a beta 58 for years, very happy with it.

  • @chrismichael8501
    @chrismichael8501 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent review and comparison, thanks!

  • @thebrunoserge
    @thebrunoserge 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for this! I used to own a Beta 58A and it was great. This time it was a no brainer - I went with an Audix OM5

  • @JozeatTxb
    @JozeatTxb 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video, thanks. I had a Shure beta 58a, didnt know much about mics, and lent I it to someone, it was neveer returned!

    • @DarkCornerStudios
      @DarkCornerStudios  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lol...never lend mics...especially the beta58

  • @BryanLuckey1
    @BryanLuckey1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video, very informative with no fluff.

  • @DanielNylandKollstrm
    @DanielNylandKollstrm 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Our guitar player just got me the beta with our band funds! I’ve been using the sm58 for 5 years now and after our other singer joined the band, I’ve started to notice that it doesn’t pick up my whole range. After watching this video, I can’t wait to try the beta out later tonight at band practice! Thanks man. :)

  • @juanchodepelos1
    @juanchodepelos1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks a lot man, I was looking for this information everywhere! I will purchase my Beta 58!

  • @davewestner
    @davewestner ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the history lesson on 58a. Didn't realize that the beta58 came out in 89. I thought it came out in the mid-90s, but didn't realize that it was the 58a that was new at the time.
    I don't think I've ever seen an original beta58

  • @thefrankfactorshow
    @thefrankfactorshow 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent review and test. Thank you.

  • @boomerbutler7569
    @boomerbutler7569 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I just bought three Beta 58a's for our worship team and I'm really thankful for this comparison video becuase we have feedback issues with our SM58's and we don't have a need for that much lows. I really like how you showed the proximity of the mircophones and this will be very helpful to our vocalists!

    • @all4christ1
      @all4christ1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How have you found it? I just bought to 58a's for our church it arrives next week.

    • @boomerbutler7569
      @boomerbutler7569 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@all4christ1 The most noticeable difference is the clarity in the mid range with the Beta 58's. They sound crystal clear when compared to the SM 58's. It was a noticeable difference with our church members and I'm glad we made the purchase.

    • @daviddesmond2143
      @daviddesmond2143 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why would the Beta get less feedback?

    • @mtsugarcan
      @mtsugarcan ปีที่แล้ว

      @@daviddesmond2143 because of the polar pattern. Beta 58a is super cardioid, which means more directional, so it is relatively less affected by the stage monitor speakers. But there is no huge difference though. Proper microphone Handling is more important.

    • @66fitton
      @66fitton ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mtsugarcan Actually you have that wrong. Look at the polar pattern of a Beta58 and you'll see it picks up more directly behind it than a regular 58. There are more feedback issues with the Beta than the regular 58. Answer is to put the monitors in the dead spot if you're using Betas, not directly behind the mic. It's the 35 degrees that was mentioned in the video. Bottom line is if they had problems with feedback already, going to Betas is not going to help.

  • @Luckyboy-bj5pq
    @Luckyboy-bj5pq ปีที่แล้ว

    Great comparison thanks so much, I have both. Can really hear the lower hz roll off.

  • @muziky2k
    @muziky2k 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You're right. I couldn't hear the difference on my Macbook Pro. However, I think there were enhancements to the Beta58A that would definitely benefit some over the SM58.

  • @FKeyPianoBar
    @FKeyPianoBar ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool review! Thanks for the helpful info

  • @christianboddum8783
    @christianboddum8783 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    i used a BETA for years. It didn't fit my voice that well, but it was a workhorse. Today I'm into the 87A, and that's a better match for me, but nowadays I do mostly harmonies, so that's a different situation also. For big choirs having the BETAs for soloists and 58's for the background singers makes FOH work easy!!

  • @GenuineHeather
    @GenuineHeather ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I agree with your conclusions. Like most people, my experience with the SM58 goes back years. It's a solid, dependable workhorse. But the Beta 58 is a cut above. It's been my go-to live vocal mic for about seven years and it's never let me down. For me, it just sounds better.

  • @juderandall703
    @juderandall703 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi, have used both. I prefer the SM58A, I find the SM58 quieter, definitely more clarity with the 58A & less feedback problems. Thanks for the review, it's very helpful 😊

  • @JBearwa
    @JBearwa ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Excellent review! Logical and useful points.
    In short I completely agree with this guy!
    I’ve used both of these mics for years in my professional karaoke shows. In my experience, definitely for singers the beta - specially with male voice - is so much better!
    And I totally agree SM 58 is an incredible mic … If you need to get something for talking buy it with the on off button. For band members it’s also a wonderful option to have the owner off button on the microphone. However for doing karaoke you may not want to have the on off button unless you tape it on people continually switch it and it takes way too much to explain how to do that during a show.For the SM 58 is an incredible value and microphone with great feedback control. But the beta has better feedback control and for singers is much better. Both Rugged both are fantastic

  • @counterfeitselfband
    @counterfeitselfband ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've always apreciated them more on stage or live situations. Sometimes I prefer a Beta57 in the studio when I want more presence. Likewise, sometimes when I want it dumbed-down a bit I like the originals. Tough to say what people should do but to me, if you have better S/N or feedback resistance, it's a no-brainer.

  • @djnewyork4734
    @djnewyork4734 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great Vid detailed explained. Thanks DCS

  • @jayneubauer3401
    @jayneubauer3401 ปีที่แล้ว

    as a backup singer in bands that started on drums, went to rhythm guitar and most recently (late 80's) keyboards, I have been using a 58 since the late 70's until it finally quit (rain storm at a festival) in the late 00's. Same one!! I switched to the Beta 58 and noticed immediately that the off-axis rejection was MUCH better. Then, switching to IEM it didn't seem to matter, but I already have my Beta, so I will use that for the rest of my life, then give it to my daughter.

  • @chriskettlewell801
    @chriskettlewell801 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    The up close sound of the Beta 58A was definitely a lot better to my ears, and the significant reduction in what it picks up from the side and back is really noticeable to. Could make a big difference with feedback.

    • @discodd94
      @discodd94 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      you need an ear test ASAP

  • @stephensams709
    @stephensams709 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The weak spot on the Beta 58a wireless mic is the on/off switch. I haven't used the wired version. Being an electronic tech, I have replaced tons of these switches. It's not a hard job, but they are so tiny. I do love the sound of the mic. I've used both of these mics and I like them both.

  • @socratestolentino9557
    @socratestolentino9557 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes.. Jus bought lately beta 58a.. Its a big leap of upgrade from sm58fora period of15 years

  • @markfisher1392
    @markfisher1392 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I used wireless SM58's (because they were the "standard") but switched the capsules to Beta58a's a couple years into using Bose L1's for our duo. It made a big difference in our gain-before-feedback as we use the L1's behind us as Bose originally designed. (Yeah, I bought the hype, but it really has been successful for us.) I have a wide vocal range and my wife is a low alto, so the bottom roll-off makes it easier to manage the proximity effect and keep low notes clear.

    • @nicolasrr3477
      @nicolasrr3477 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Cual me recomiendas amigo, canto en un grupo donde hago la voz grabe, me puedes ayudar plis

  • @BaldPerspective
    @BaldPerspective ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I preferred the sound of the SM & I also like how it cuts off at a lower frequency than the Beta, giving me the choice to cut those other frequencies out with an EQ. But, that's for recording. If I were the lead singer in a band, I'd prefer the Beta. Each would have strengths over the other depending on the context of how they're being used.

  • @odiecoyote106
    @odiecoyote106 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If I could I would only buy B58's. After switch our two main worship mics in our church especially quieter female vocals are a major improvement with the B-58. It requires less compression to balance out the sound. Amazing mic. The SM58 I would still use for certain situations like a guitar cabinet isolation box or a lecture mic because it doesn't reject so well off axis. Great video and loved the presentation of comparing these two mics.

  • @pbody0808
    @pbody0808 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude! Excellent video! Very informative!

  • @blueheron5232
    @blueheron5232 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Excellent job, man. Frankly, I was surprised that the two were so very similar in terms of performance characteristics. My takeaway is the Beta 58a is something of a luxury that's more easily justified for a Lead Singer or Front Man, or possibly for use in a solo act... As an aside, it's the only live stage mic Susan Tedeschi ever uses.

    • @J.C...
      @J.C... 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Oh yea? I'll have to look next time I'm jamming to them. 👌 Lifelong Allman Brothers fan here. Literally from day 0. Have you heard Duane Betts new solo stuff? He has one song with Derek called Stare At the Sun that's pretty dang good! Johnny Stachela and Berry are with him, too. TBH, I think Dickey might be playing on it, also. That's what the paragraph read like in the article I was reading.

  • @johnalles6760
    @johnalles6760 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have one of each. The SM 58 I use for practice by myself and it is fine however when I play out I like the Beta 58. It just sounds a little better to me and goes over other voices better if you are the lead singer.

  • @backlineguy
    @backlineguy ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video examples of the two mics. I have used both of these mics in a live situation - festivals, arenas, stadiums, theatres - and I really had no idea of the off-axis rejection abilities of the 58a...until now...but obviously the Sound crew did, which is why they are who they are - some of the MOST important ingredients in the live recipe...thanks for this!

  • @thekaniack
    @thekaniack 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was great. I am sold on the Beta 58A!

  • @Billy-yu8sk
    @Billy-yu8sk 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When I had a sound & lighting company I bought all Beta-58s for vocals, combined w/ a driverack 360 & I never had one bit of feedback. Pinked the room whenever possible but not always.

  • @aranajagger5946
    @aranajagger5946 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    As a sound tech myself, i prefer the sm58 over the beta. The Boost in the highs of the beta tend to feedback with the monitors. It's a great mic but the sm58 is more reliable

    • @cblade007
      @cblade007 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I couldn't agree more. You have to know the problem frequencies of all mics to make it easier to use. I carry 10 58's because it makes soundcheck faster to set up because I am familiar with those frequencies in the monitors.

    • @videoclip1324
      @videoclip1324 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hello, I wanted to ask a question that I have wanted to ask for a long time:
      I have the sm58 microphone that I bought about a year ago.
      The whole time I use it, I have 3 problems.
      1. The volume is very low even when I'm close to the microphone.
      2. When I speak, a weak "white noise" starts playing in the background, which is only disturbing when speaking.
      3. Even if I connect it to phantom 48v still remains the same.
      Do you know what to do in such a situation?
      I would be happy to answer if you can.🙏
      Thank you in advance.

    • @cblade007
      @cblade007 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@videoclip1324 Is this the only mic that you use on your system? If so, the problem could be from your console or amplifier.

    • @ratedepth
      @ratedepth ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@videoclip1324 Check your gain staging from the mic all the way through wherever your output is. The white noise is likely distortion happening somewhere along the way.
      Dynamic mics do not require phantom power. You can leave that off for the SM58 (or any dynamic mic).

    • @videoclip1324
      @videoclip1324 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ratedepth Thanks.
      So you mean it could be because the sound card is of poor quality? (because really the sound card is not that professional)
      I will only add (if necessary) that my microphone is not original (in my opinion according to the price I bought it for).

  • @LorneVignettes
    @LorneVignettes ปีที่แล้ว +2

    They both sound great. I would pick the SM58 for streaming or podcasting. Live sound the Beta 58 would be first choice in my opinion. This was a good test.

  • @veroprz6047
    @veroprz6047 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Justo hoy compre él beta 58 a ., y me ha encantado 👍

  • @margagomezcomedy
    @margagomezcomedy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just rewatched this. So well done. Why don't more people use this mic as "broadcast "mics? it sounds as good as "broadcast looking " miles that cost twice as much? Is it about the visuals? Thanks!

  • @notallprincessesacoustic7641
    @notallprincessesacoustic7641 ปีที่แล้ว

    I play guitar and sing in an acoustic duo. I use the sm58 and the singer has the beta in wireless version. I totally get the lower frequency difference for which it is great but it does seem to have a much hotter signal that can be problematic for feedback when we’re wedged into a corner in a small venue and the singer is holding the mic as opposed to using the mic stand. Great comparison though. 😀

  • @williammckinney3362
    @williammckinney3362 ปีที่แล้ว

    Outstanding demo...Thank You.

  • @cobass1840
    @cobass1840 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I have had both and to me the biggest difference is the feedback on stage. The Beta seems to help somewhat. Thanks for the review.

  • @tommydplayskeys
    @tommydplayskeys ปีที่แล้ว

    My wife and I both sing. She has a really bright voice and mine can struggle to cut through. To begin with she had the Beta and I had the SM58. It got a whole lot better when we swapped! Much less EQ needed. So I'd say it depends on the voice. The polar pattern isn't something I think too much about - we stopped getting feedback when we switched to IEMs. Though minimising drum spill into our mics is still a factor.

  • @philgreco7037
    @philgreco7037 ปีที่แล้ว

    I use the SM58 on the lower end of my Leslie. So perfect for that, and still only $99 like it was when I bought my first one in 1968.

  • @Theweeze100
    @Theweeze100 ปีที่แล้ว

    The feedback issue alone is enough to cause me to shell out the extra cash. The little extra “ump” when I’m right on the mic, is a bonus!
    We’ll done comparison!!!

  • @darrenhunt7838
    @darrenhunt7838 ปีที่แล้ว

    I got an SM 58 as a free bonus when I bought a pair of KRK powered studio monitors and I can’t fault it. I only use it in my studio so for me it’s perfect.

  • @paulswartz9104
    @paulswartz9104 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I created a Beta 58a by 4:12 replacing the grill on a Beta 57a with a grill from a Behringer XM 8500.The threads on XM 8500 are a bit larger so I built up the threads on the Beta 57a with pipe thread tape wraping them till the tape was flush with the OD of the mic.Screw the new grill on and you're done,works great! Made a great change in the performance of this michrophone for vocals.😅😅

  • @charlessmyth
    @charlessmyth ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I bought the beta 58A for its tighter polar pattern and increased sensitivity compared to the SM-58. I use it to record audiobooks, and for the time that they take to record and process, and for what I don't have to do and spend to treat the room, for to suit a cardioid condenser, the cost difference isn't an issue :-) I added the proper Shure foam windscreen. It doesn't seem to have any benefit for the sound, but it adds a finish to the look of the microphone.

    • @totallyfrozen
      @totallyfrozen 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I also use an SM58 in my voiceover studio. I had a large diaphragm condenser, but with the 20Hz to 20kHz response and super sensitivity, there was always a need excessively treat the room and to clean up the audio with EQ, etc. So I put the condenser away and now I use the SM58 with a metal mesh pop filter. Sounds perfect! The design of the SM58 already does all the EQ necessary for human voice that you’d have to do in your software using a condenser with a flat response. Why reinvent the wheel for spoken word?

  • @alexredfield1943
    @alexredfield1943 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The best video I've seen on the subject. My 85A is on its way ;)

  • @daviddesmond2143
    @daviddesmond2143 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video on great mics. I bought my Shure SM58 in 1972. I have played hundreds of gigs and toured in the Eastern 1/3rd of the USA playing 6 nights a week on the road and never had a problem with the mic. Mine has an on/off switch and if I ever bought a new 58 I would get one with a switch-not only is it handy but you are far less likely to buy one of the many counterfeit SM58's.

    • @DarkCornerStudios
      @DarkCornerStudios  ปีที่แล้ว

      That's a great point about the switch!
      Never thought of that.
      That said I only buy my 58s from physical retailers.

    • @jrv65
      @jrv65 ปีที่แล้ว

      E eu que achei que só no Brasil tinha falsificado, agora até nos EUA aí para tudo em .

  • @ZackPomerleau
    @ZackPomerleau ปีที่แล้ว

    Big thing I notice is that the rear hotspot super cardioids are supposed to have don’t really seem that different but the cardioids definitely have a lot of sound from the sides.

  • @mudsh4rk
    @mudsh4rk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's weird, the 58 has stayed about the same in unadjusted price since the 90s (I got my first '57 in may e '95 for just under $100; the only '58 I've ever bought was $10 but that doesn't count), which means that after inflation a 58 in the late 90s cost at least as much as a beta 58 today. I wonder if there has been any cost cutting in the manufacture of the newer ones.

  • @thebrasskeyrealty4432
    @thebrasskeyrealty4432 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really like the bata, you notice the punch though, with loud amps and drummers. I think it's a big step up and well worth the extra cash. I have two lol.

  • @jayjacqueline615
    @jayjacqueline615 ปีที่แล้ว

    As a vocalist who mostly croons and only belts when it adds dynamically to the song, I am considering buying the BETA. I have an SM58 which I've owned for several years. I was hoping your demonstration was going to WOW me in favor of the BETA. Unfortunately, that didn't happen. I like them both for different reasons. Sometimes I want the highs, sometimes I want the lows. So I've decided to have one of each. Thanks for the comparison!

  • @mathewjohn8126
    @mathewjohn8126 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sir;
    From your superlative talks am planning to buy a SHURE BETA 58 A for the lead singer seat next week. Thanks Boss

    • @DarkCornerStudios
      @DarkCornerStudios  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cheers...hope you enjoy.
      Consider using the links below if you want to support the channel!

  • @sandersson1
    @sandersson1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Incredibly high-quality video, especially considering the subcount

    • @DarkCornerStudios
      @DarkCornerStudios  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you!
      It has been my goal all along...I appreciate the kind words!!

  • @bluey-uo9li
    @bluey-uo9li ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool tests brother ,It's in the name beta. Better happy new years🎊🎉🌅🙏

  • @ternitamas
    @ternitamas 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    sm58 does sound warmer I guess it's because the beta has that bass roll off. Both sound great I think it's a question of what your preference is in terms of sound color.

  • @ColocasiaCorm
    @ColocasiaCorm ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think the wider pickup pattern if the sm58 sounds more natural and better. Captures a bigger picture of the voice

  • @cmcg5788
    @cmcg5788 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Thanks for the video. I'm a vocalist. The SM58 is smoother/warmer with my voice (tenor). When you do the proximity test in this video, the SM58 sounds more natural, without too much "wool" in the low-end. The Beta's sound reproduction seems artificially boosted in the highs in all scenarios (maybe they killed the warmth with the low-end roll-off). Anyway, the SM-58 is my pick any day of the week for singing or speech.

    • @thorssensgamesNCC1701
      @thorssensgamesNCC1701 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I use it for gameplay videos and I like the warm, personal, intimate feel I get from the SM58 and I am a tenor also. I like to have my viewers feel like they are here with me sharing in the experience.

    • @davebooth5847
      @davebooth5847 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm a baritone and I gotta admit I USE the proximity effect on the SM58. Getting just into the edge of it gives a fatter and warmer sound to my lower notes. Even without that I'd much rather have the frequencies there coming from the mic where if I want 'em gone I can EQ 'em out. If the mic doesn't send 'em to the board you can't put 'em back in

    • @dandillon2163
      @dandillon2163 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you only get one wedge at 12 o'clock right in your face the 58 works great. Very good gain before feedback. It has a great null spot back there. If you have the luxury of two wedges though, one at say 10 o'clock and the other at 2 o'clock the 58a has its best nul spots there (even better than the absolute rear of the mic) as you can see from the posters polar pattern demonstration. So you get a wedge aimed basically at each ear and the perception of much more volume. Inverse Square Law: double the number of speakers, double the perceived volume.
      So if price is no object, the 58a is only slightly more money when you consider the cost of adding that second monitor wedge to get the most out of your foldback situation.

  • @SavoxYT
    @SavoxYT 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Things that would survive a nuclear apocalypse:
    1. Cockroaches
    2. Keith Richards
    3. SM57s and SM58s

    • @GoodlyRogue
      @GoodlyRogue 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Damn, didn't expect you here? I really like your videos. As for you, what's your mic?

  • @amberwoodstudio
    @amberwoodstudio ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Been gigging for years the sm58 is awesome and tuff as nails

  • @KenTeel
    @KenTeel 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Good job. Thanks !!

  • @riharrds
    @riharrds ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you for this comparison :)

  • @michael_caz_nyc
    @michael_caz_nyc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love my Beta 58a ( better side-noise rejection ) and my Audio Technica SM-4033. Nice comparison. oNe LovE from NYC

  • @scottbrown4205
    @scottbrown4205 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Depends on the application and where the speakers and sound sources are. The side rejection of the beta works better if your mains are near the stage. The 58 works better if you have foldbacks in front. I use the beta for my drummers that sing. Sound’s much better than a headset. There is less snare bleed due to the pattern. Point being it’s all about polar pattern.

    • @JonAnderhub
      @JonAnderhub ปีที่แล้ว

      Using the Beta 58 for a drummer and the rejection of the snare is a great point!

    • @glennh7297
      @glennh7297 ปีที่แล้ว

      Great point on the bleed. I have used a Beta for 30 years, but I still carry a 58 in my trap case for a backup/extra mic. Near bombproof units.

    • @66fitton
      @66fitton ปีที่แล้ว

      100%! Only thing I would add is that putting foldbacks off at 35 degrees instead of directly behind the mic when using Betas is how to deal with the foldback issue. All due to the POLAR PATTERN of the Beta. Stick it in that dead spot lol!

  • @marcelbeaulieu3982
    @marcelbeaulieu3982 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Great video, very helpful....
    I am professionnal signer and own both and been using them for quite some times. I préfer using the Beta 58A when I am confident that my signing pitch and voice tonality, on a particular song, are excellent and that I want to put it out very clearly. I will use the SM 58, for the other songs. The Beta 58A will pickup every little mistake that you do on the stage or recording. If you are an excellent signer, you will really notice the difference and appreciate the Beta 58A. Marcel Beaulieu, QC, Canada

    • @DarkCornerStudios
      @DarkCornerStudios  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hey!
      Fellow Canadian!
      In fact...I am in QC too...just across the river from Quebec!

  • @qddk9545
    @qddk9545 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have both of them, and I like the Beta the best. Maybe it is the proximity effect, but I sound better thru a Beta 58.

  • @esteladelmar-tango
    @esteladelmar-tango ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't go anywhere without my Beta58. Great video, thanks a lot!

  • @artokujala
    @artokujala ปีที่แล้ว

    For live use I like the Beta better 👍🏻 especially for me with low growling vocals from close in front of the mic that low cut is crucial.

  • @kenmecone8010
    @kenmecone8010 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Great stuff as always, Aiden. On my phone's speaker, the differences were barely noticeable. I can see the 58A being a wise choice for singing, but man the 58 sounds great for spoken word. My son and I both use a 58 for our podcast, and we are absolutely Shure that we love them. Hehehe...

    • @BangsNaughtyBits
      @BangsNaughtyBits 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My Beta 58a rejects several dB of ambient noise in a less than great environment compared to many other mics. If I normalize to peak at a certain level, the practical noise floor is usually 3-6 dB lower on the Beta. I suspect that's almost entirely the low end roll off.
      !

  • @bosselof1341
    @bosselof1341 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I often use Beta 58 for girls and SM58 for boys when mixing vocals live. But both works very well at stage. Once I was mixing the Swedish famous singer Charlotte Perelli and she didnt want to do a soundcheck just step up on stage and sing and that time the Beta 58 solved the challenge just a few adjustments from my own Voice and it was excellent sound.
    So Shure SLS with Beta 58 was My choice. Charlotte did Her gig and she and the crowd was happy.

    • @jrv65
      @jrv65 ปีที่แล้ว

      Aí vc acordou 😅, e ficou doido 😂

    • @brucewales5965
      @brucewales5965 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I thought that would make sense.

  • @rickmac06
    @rickmac06 ปีที่แล้ว

    On axis at 3-4 inches I prefered the sound of the 58 on YOUR voice. That being said, on someone else I might prefer the 58a. They are both great live vocals mics and the company that I mix for has plenty of both.

  • @OliverWoodphotography
    @OliverWoodphotography 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The thing that would sell the b58 to me is the higher output level (-51dBV) I'm keen to keep the noise floor way down low with dynamic mics.

  • @cliffschannel2521
    @cliffschannel2521 ปีที่แล้ว

    I used the 58 for years as a stand up lead vox in rock bands but when I started playing guitar and singing I went to the beta as I cant control the mic distance to control the prox effect . With the roll off of the lower frequencies of the beta and the fact that when playing the guitar while singing I sing right on the mic I have a crisper vox than the 58 would deliver singing right into it , it would be to boomy . The extra mid and high boost also cuts through a loud mix better and it sizzles more than the 58 almost like a bit of saturation which again works better for heavy rock . I still use 58's for the rest of the band though and carry as my spare along with 57's . The lack of the prox effect just makes it cut better. Im a very loud singer so feedback isnt much of an issue .

  • @isaacsitiakalaabwenje
    @isaacsitiakalaabwenje ปีที่แล้ว

    I like the Beta sm 58a when speaking through it @ 4" distance

  • @66fitton
    @66fitton ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't mind the Betas as long as singer doesn't mind monitor off at 35 degrees. Putting a monitor directly behind a Beta can cause issues due to the polar pattern. There's a bump directly behind on the Beta that isn't there on the regular 58.

  • @nunoandradebluesdrive
    @nunoandradebluesdrive ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't know if the upgrade makes a lot of sense. The extra boominess of the proximity effect of the sm58 can be dealt with - a small distance using a foam windshield (also a good shock preventing idea), and eq. The extra power of the beta is cool, but the extra bass roll off sounds a little too much, - to sound balanced, it seems one must be touching the grill, and if you want to get closer, it might lack something.

  • @Phill_Ashley
    @Phill_Ashley ปีที่แล้ว

    Good job. I might just buy the Beta 58A. My SM58 is probably 25 years old.

  • @doubledeucedrums
    @doubledeucedrums ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video Man👍. Subbed.

  • @twisted2291
    @twisted2291 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like them both and used both of them for live sound. If the lead singer had a bass heavy voice. I would use a beta to clean up muddyness in the lead vocals. The beta's are also great at micing up acoustic guitars in a small pub. But if the guitar sounded like a tin can on stage. I would swap it out to the classic 58.

  • @paulkeeler441
    @paulkeeler441 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks. Good video and in general I do prefer the B58 for most things. However you didn't really cover one very important point. You did touch on it by mentioning and illustrating the different polar patterns, but this has important practical applications on stage, that you didn't mention. That is - where you put your stage monitors for best feedback rejection. Assuming your mics are on stands, if you always put your monitors directly behind your mic stands, with the back of the mic pointing at the monitor, then the standard 58 will give you much better feedback rejection but if you put your monitors between the mic stands, or angle the mic at 60 degrees to the monitors then the B58 will protect you more, because of its super-cardiod polar pattern. This 60 degree rejection can really help you position the B58 for maximum feedback rejection or rejection of another loud noise source. Eg for a singing drummer, where you you can reject the snare by angling the vocal mic correctly.

  • @ATOMSHAMRADIO
    @ATOMSHAMRADIO ปีที่แล้ว

    Iam a hamradio operator mics are important on the air has to sound natural sounding radio station kinda sound great video thanx💯

  • @mr_tw
    @mr_tw ปีที่แล้ว

    For me, Beta all the way... but mostly because of my day to day needs.
    When I'm running live sound, >>ALL

  • @carpecoffee7988
    @carpecoffee7988 ปีที่แล้ว

    When is the ALPHA series coming out ? Would be the best and last microphone you would need to purchase

  • @johnsheard7470
    @johnsheard7470 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like the beta 58a I have 2 off them but I like the sm58 as well I think the beta is more crispier and the sm58 is more bassie love both off them

  • @GregJDaigle
    @GregJDaigle 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Great video! Something that I've experienced, (and why I actually roll with 58's for my SLXD systems) is that the beta58a is amazing at rejecting monitor feedback *IF* they are on a stand parallel with the stage, putting the monitor in the dead spot. When the singer goes handheld, or grabs the mic and tilts it upward, they're super likely to put the monitor right in the slightly live rear of the polar pattern. My personal band uses in-ears, so that wouldn't be a problem, but I do a fair amount of wedding and cover-band sound with rotating singers and high stage volume. I find that the "fine all around" 58 is often preferable to the "great in most areas, but tricky in some" beta58.

  • @ButeSound
    @ButeSound ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Beta all day. I use a beta58 in my studio - always live through monitors! for vocal lessons so students can hear themselves really well without the isolation effect of headphones. Perfect. The rejection and quality means any recordings are very usable and in a controlled space I get no feedback with loud monitoring. I liken the recorded sound to be more "condenser like" than the regular 58. Recommend.
    Also was good enough for Bjork in her hayday ;)

  • @tonictonetomrockstar1931
    @tonictonetomrockstar1931 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've used the beta for years and recently found I like the sm58 a lot more than I ever expected. I have both wired and wireless versions.

    • @simonclepkens7862
      @simonclepkens7862 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same here ...

    • @therealredmoney
      @therealredmoney 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      for recording use...does it have any high end or is it dull...the sm58, that is???...also, does it have a warm tone or harsh?

  • @theway-backmusicmachinepod9953
    @theway-backmusicmachinepod9953 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Both good choices. I prefer the sound of my Beta 58a just a wee bit, but you can't go wrong either way. I've used it for both music (singing) and podcasting, but have switched to my AKG P120 for podcasts. In an untreated room, I would go back to the Beta 58A, though. Either one of these bad boys can survive a nuclear blast lol

  • @MrBlowncat
    @MrBlowncat ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like the low end of the SM58 😎👍🏼

  • @purplemoon3816
    @purplemoon3816 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So hard to choose... which one for mainly jazz singing? Thx! Subscribed, will learn a lot from you.

    • @dmarlton
      @dmarlton ปีที่แล้ว

      In my opinion the SM58 is not great for jazz - it dulls all the details and over pushes the p's and b's (a problem if you scat). A condenser mic is what most of the jazz greats used which will pick up the greater range of expressiveness of jazz. (however they are less durable and require phantom power) The closest to that you'll get with a dynamic mic is a sennheiser 945, BUT everyone's voice is different. I find a beta suits me better than the Sennheiser. (but I only found that out by going into a shop and testing them side by side - WHICH I HIGHLY RECCOMEND YOU DO!)

  • @natron1908
    @natron1908 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have both. There is significant difference between the two, and the last thing he said is important: get one for the lead vocals at least.

  • @LesArtsdelaParole
    @LesArtsdelaParole 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I hesitated for such a long time...
    Watched many comparisons, and yours was the final point for my decision and I got the sm58.
    I had the extra money for the Beta58, but in the end, for my "a bit" high pitch voice, the sm58 come flatter the medium and give some "deepness" (big word...) to my voice.
    Thank you for you reviews, it is high quality content you're doing !

  • @bfrank3468
    @bfrank3468 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In my opinion, one is not better than another. They both have their place in the audio tool box. I have used both mics live for many years. Examples for the 58 is a violin player that doubles the mic for vocals and acoustic violin, the lack of rejection allows for a generally much fuller sound with less location precision required… same goes for acoustic resonator guitars where sound is coming from every direction. However as mentioned the rejection of the 58 beta is seriously usefull as well. Good informative video. Enjoyed, thanks! For myself I use Telef M80’s, but thats a different story

  • @YAWN....
    @YAWN.... 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have both and I do like my 58A better, nicer clarity etc.
    Cheers

  • @dallon5
    @dallon5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This was a common topic with a sound crew I worked for. When people say SM 58s sound “natural” it tends to mean “familiar” or “typical”. Because 99% of the vocal mics on stage are SM58s it becomes second nature how to get the sound we think is normal out of them. It also meant we needed to change the EQ on channels when a singer brought their own Beta to the festival. The “Handheld Stage Mic” that really opened my eyes was the Heil PR35. It was so surprising how clear the sound was without fighting feedback.

    • @metalienmusic
      @metalienmusic ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The Heil Mics really are so much better. I still dislike that i wasted so much time trying to make the SM58 i had 20 years ago sound good. Back then, i thought it can not be the mic because the SM58 is praised everywhere... So i thought it was the room acoustics or the preamp, or my settings... I wasted so much time with this stone age mic. Then i bought a Heil PR20 and all problems were gone. Over the last 20 years i have tried dozens of dynamic microphones. Today i use the PR20, the more expensive PR40 and the SM7B in my studio.

    • @notwaiting-vs9jb
      @notwaiting-vs9jb ปีที่แล้ว

      @@metalienmusic u use pr20 for singing or what?