You know what, I think I do have a Browning. My dad bought me a safe nearly twenty years ago that he keeps at his house. I'm like 75% sure it's a Browning but I haven't looked at it in years.
I was at Bass Pro today. I really can't believe they want 3600 for a cabela with weld seems all over the back. I'm not an engineer, but it seems susceptible. Can you guys talk about that at all?
@@kostmalone They’re continuously welded from the inside and again from the outside for added strength. Ideally the back of the safe is against the wall and bolted down when permitted, thus not being a weak point. Common everyday burglary attempts are next to useless to exposed welds, they are using brute force to attempt to open them.
@@kostmalone Yeah, I mean plenty of people know, but when folks are shopping they’re typically focused on room for their belongings and they have a budget.
Does it come with the guarantee that they will not give up your access code to the government for without due process which infringes on your 4th amendment rights?
I’m pretty new to the safe market looking for one for my firearms. However I see lots of comments suggesting staying away from liberty, what are the next good brands to look at? And why does liberty have a negative connotation ?
@mortiz1911 Specifically most everyone is referring to last September when the FBl was conducting an investigation with a judge ordered search warrant. They reached out to the manufacturer of the safe on site where they were conducting the search, Liberty. The agent in charge first call and then emailed a copy of his credentials, a copy of the search warrant and the serial number of the safe. Apparently the lock had never been changed from the factory code. However, the likelihood of this happening again, from any safe manufacturer, is exceptionally unlikely. For example, Liberty has completely rewritten their policies & added the verbiage unless a subpoena with Liberty specifically named would be the only chance of them giving any information. And with that they also said in the policy they will reach out to the owner on file before moving forward. This is actually a very important change as all safe manufacturing companies will likely rewrite their existing policies to be the same. There are multiple manufacturers that make, and offer great products, It’s all based on your safe needs. Check out the videos on Browning ProSteel and AMSEC for example and feel free to ask questions! And there are still others. We try to help everyone, so please ask questions.
@A1LocksmithofTexas i have not seen the word "subpoena" used by liberty in any statements. Can you include a source? What ive read is as long as there is a warrant to search *the house* and not even the safe, liberty gives the code out
@@benklockin3386 Of course. Here’s the new policy on Liberty’s website. The breakdown says if they receive a warrant/subpoena specifically naming Liberty safe they will contact their lawyer first and then contact the customer if they have their information in file. As many customers have said you can pull the serial number off the exterior of the safe and there’s no way to verify it, period. Make sure you safe store that number elsewhere in case you ever need warranty work. I hope this link helps, but let me know if you have any questions : www.libertysafe.com/pages/government-and-law-enforcement-customer-information-policy
I just bought this safe yesterday and will be getting delivered in ten days for my 50+ Handguns and 20 long guns. TRUMP 2024! $350. Delivery and setup with 4 steps at front door so, is this average price for delivery and setup?
@@zdiver1 Yeah, that’s very market competitive for a 1,000lbs safe with 4 steps. I would strongly recommend these accessories if you’re trying to squeeze all that into it : www.a-1locksmith.com/shop-online/products/safe-accessories/gun-racks/accessory-storage-handgun-hanger-4-pack/ Rifle Rod Safe Accessory Review and Install | A1 EDU How-To th-cam.com/video/fzG-zK12KC0/w-d-xo.html
@@A1LocksmithofTexas guys had a battery powered dolly he walked it up the steps and used a sliders to get it in place and I removed the door for the room ahead of time because it is a FATBOY after all.
I will never own a Liberty safe.
You know what, I think I do have a Browning. My dad bought me a safe nearly twenty years ago that he keeps at his house. I'm like 75% sure it's a Browning but I haven't looked at it in years.
@@smeghead765 Browning makes great products, too.
@@smeghead765 Please check out the channel to see other brands and models we discuss.
I was at Bass Pro today. I really can't believe they want 3600 for a cabela with weld seems all over the back. I'm not an engineer, but it seems susceptible. Can you guys talk about that at all?
@@kostmalone They’re continuously welded from the inside and again from the outside for added strength. Ideally the back of the safe is against the wall and bolted down when permitted, thus not being a weak point. Common everyday burglary attempts are next to useless to exposed welds, they are using brute force to attempt to open them.
All the people who are complaining about Liberty probably own Cabelas, which is hilarious.
@@kostmalone Yeah, I mean plenty of people know, but when folks are shopping they’re typically focused on room for their belongings and they have a budget.
Does it come with the guarantee that they will not give up your access code to the government for without due process which infringes on your 4th amendment rights?
I’m pretty new to the safe market looking for one for my firearms. However I see lots of comments suggesting staying away from liberty, what are the next good brands to look at? And why does liberty have a negative connotation ?
@mortiz1911 Specifically most everyone is referring to last September when the FBl was conducting an investigation with a judge ordered search warrant. They reached out to the manufacturer of the safe on site where they were conducting the search, Liberty. The agent in charge first call and then emailed a copy of his credentials, a copy of the search warrant and the serial number of the safe. Apparently the lock had never been changed from the factory code.
However, the likelihood of this happening again, from any safe manufacturer, is exceptionally unlikely. For example, Liberty has completely rewritten their policies & added the verbiage unless a subpoena with Liberty specifically named would be the only chance of them giving any information. And with that they also said in the policy they will reach out to the owner on file before moving forward. This is actually a very important change as all safe manufacturing companies will likely rewrite their existing policies to be the same.
There are multiple manufacturers that make, and offer great products, It’s all based on your safe needs. Check out the videos on Browning ProSteel and AMSEC for example and feel free to ask questions! And there are still others. We try to help everyone, so please ask questions.
@A1LocksmithofTexas i have not seen the word "subpoena" used by liberty in any statements. Can you include a source? What ive read is as long as there is a warrant to search *the house* and not even the safe, liberty gives the code out
@@benklockin3386 Of course. Here’s the new policy on Liberty’s website. The breakdown says if they receive a warrant/subpoena specifically naming Liberty safe they will contact their lawyer first and then contact the customer if they have their information in file. As many customers have said you can pull the serial number off the exterior of the safe and there’s no way to verify it, period. Make sure you safe store that number elsewhere in case you ever need warranty work. I hope this link helps, but let me know if you have any questions : www.libertysafe.com/pages/government-and-law-enforcement-customer-information-policy
@@A1LocksmithofTexas appreciate the response thanks
I just bought this safe yesterday and will be getting delivered in ten days for my 50+ Handguns and 20 long guns. TRUMP 2024! $350. Delivery and setup with 4 steps at front door so, is this average price for delivery and setup?
@@zdiver1 Yeah, that’s very market competitive for a 1,000lbs safe with 4 steps. I would strongly recommend these accessories if you’re trying to squeeze all that into it :
www.a-1locksmith.com/shop-online/products/safe-accessories/gun-racks/accessory-storage-handgun-hanger-4-pack/
Rifle Rod Safe Accessory Review and Install | A1 EDU How-To
th-cam.com/video/fzG-zK12KC0/w-d-xo.html
Did the 20 long fit properly? With scopes?
@zkennedy2217 yes.
@@zdiver1 Great price on delivery, but how did it go & how did everything fit?
@@A1LocksmithofTexas guys had a battery powered dolly he walked it up the steps and used a sliders to get it in place and I removed the door for the room ahead of time because it is a FATBOY after all.