USA Liberty Gun Safe vs Cannon Sierra Comparison
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Built-in the US, the USA Liberty Gun Safe is the strongest in its class. Compared to the imported Cannon Sierra which utilizes a 3-piece, skip-welded body - the Liberty safe features a unique 2-piece design.
The top, sides, and bottom are roll-formed from a single piece of steel and folded into a box. This is just one of the features that make Liberty Safes better than the competition. Furthermore, Liberty offers a lifetime warranty on its welds, hinges, and mechanisms. Cannon filed for bankruptcy on February 25, 2020.
Well, I now know Cannon was the correct choice. They aren't opening my safe for the FBI.😂😂
It looks like Cannon erased their “Lost Combination Assistance” page from their website earlier this week to avoid getting some of the same attention as Liberty. The reality is most of the larger safe manufacturers have historically always assisted Law Enforcement and had similar policies pertaining to combinations as Liberty. If any good has come from this situation it’s that all of the big safe manufacturers have taken this last week to quietly change their policies to prevent this from happening in the future.
The best antitheft for the safe is no one knowing you even own a safe!
All it takes to unlock a Liberty is a phone call.
I had a break in and my cannon broke 4 of the pry bars took. ax blows and having the lock and key pad blown off and still stayed locked my safe did its job well
doesnt matter how well its built when they will just give the code to the fedboys over the phone and let them get in it
I was going to buy a liberty until the news broke about them caving to the feds. I'll buy an AMSEC or Fort Knox instead.
Back when I used to rob peoples houses I would just call Liberty safe on the phone and tell them I was Agent Ben Dover with the FBI and they would just give me the combination.
I’d had an AmSec safe for 15 years, and it was great. But, the guy who bought our house bought it too. I did a ton of research and ordered a Liberty Franklin 40. It’s the best safe I’ll ever need; 110 minutes of fire rating and good steel.
Who needs fire when you've got fedsn
The feds can open it in 30seconds once liberty gives them your combo
@@adamjohnson1502- Liberty let owners fill out a form to authorize them to delete the factory code. Of course, I signed it, but who knows? It’s a major problem.
I guess the part they leave out is that this is the most basic cannon safe they make and that the liberty costs twice as much as the cannon
At the time of filming these two safes were typically about $200-300 dollars difference in cost. For something that can last a lifetime I think that is worth the difference for the better safe.
Someone’s mad they skipped out on a Liberty safe for a Cannon safe.
Thats false. cannon is exactly the same price as liberty. I bought the Liberty and have never looked back. At tractor supply the cannon identical safes and the cannon was actually more. Rap on the sides of either and fast as you can snap your fingers you can tell which one is garbage. Cannon is a glorified cabinet. Liberty is a safe. Peace.
@rhsking05 Still mad about buying a safe from a commie company that will sell you out to the feds?
@@NWSafeyou have to pay that extra money if you want to keep it closed to everything but a federal warrant
On a Canon do they give out all the passcodes when the FBI calls them I doubted it
I must have a different cannon safe. It has a lifetime warranty. After it flooded in harvey, they unlocked it for free, brought me a new safe and let me keep the old one. I would however like to see the contents after its in a fire. Most videos I have have seen everything is pretty much toast thats in them.
I’ve seen a lot that contents are still damaged during a fire, so is a safe even worth buying as far as fireproof and waterproof? I’m currently looking, but doubting the value of one.
@@jamespruitt6718 No, they're really only for keeping people out
The liberty safe ships with a back door code for the electronic lock now known to the US Govt and probably soon to be found on the Internet. It is not known if the Canon safes also have a backdoor code for their electronic locks.
Nearly all electronic locks are manufactured with what they call MRC or Supervisor Codes before they even are shipped to companies like Liberty or Cannon. So yes, Cannon Safes also have this feature.
www.cannonsafe.com/lost-combination-assistance/
The good new is that these codes can be changed with the assistance of the factory and safe technician. The majority of us here use mechanical dial locks with a custom code that way there is no record of it.
@@NWSafe Yes I kept S&G combo locks on mine too. I never had confidence in electric locks.
@@kenibnanak5554Try opening it under little light and extreme pressure. That's the draw back.
I was using a Mosler safe but outgrew it and bought a Fatboy. Could not be happier. And now the Mosler is the ammo safe... I researched for a long time and if your going to spend 3k on a safe, Liberty is hands down the best manufacturer. Nothing is theft proof, but my piece of mind rests easy when I have to be away from home.
I have the Fatboy Extreme. And let me tell you that is one quality safe. I have been thoroughly satisfied with my Liberty. I have ultimate confidence that firearms and precious items are secure and safe.
It's only 12 gauge steel. That's 2.7 millimeters thick. A bi-metal blade on a cordless circular saw will cut that open in less than 2 minutes. For the price they're asking for that safe there's a lot of better options out there. You have the ILLUSION of security and not true security itself. Sorry.
It has a good fire rating but that's about it, doesn't even have a plate steel door.
Also as your comparing these two safes, remember, you get what you pay for.
Can you explain why a buyer of a used safe would need a written consent of Liberty (@ 5:20) to transfer the warranty? I would think the mfr would automatically stand behind their product regardless of who owns it. Personally, I do not like Cannon for some of the reasons that you stated (door opening), but at least with Cannon when I bought a used safe off a private party they initiated a repair ticket without "prior written consent". BTW, Amsec warranty covers the initial buyer only.
Sure. If someone calls with and want's us to open their safe and we look at our info on file and see it's not registered to them it leads to more paperwork and time to prove ownership. I've never had a case where Liberty hasn't stood behind their products. The transfer is recommended to make it easier on the new owner.
I have had a Cannon for 15 years. Love it.
There's nothing wrong with Old Cannon Safes. They used to be made in the USA.
They are not going pry it open, they are going cut the side open in about 10 minutes with a metal cutter.
We see that comment a lot on the internet but the reality is we have seen more attempts to pry open a safe than to cut open a safe. If your comment was to suggest cutting would be faster, easier and an overall better idea, we would agree with you. We just haven't seen the numbers play out the way you're saying.
Also, I would say for most entry level safes prying is going to be faster and more discreet. However, once you get to a higher quality safe prying is going to be off the table and cutting would be the best option.
i agree only a fool would try to go through the door.
@@thebosscatman7For the most part when you're protecting against theft you are dealing with fools.
@@NWSafe Why you lie? I cut safes w a skilsaw. I wait for dummies to brag about their fancy rifles at the bars and I wait till they goto work in the the morning. Like GNR said, It’s So Easy! Murica!
cannon doesn't give feds pass code.
Why am I here? I have absolutely nothing valuable enough to store in one of these.
The locking bars had me sold. Just bought my liberty safe. Buy once cry once. Buy American made, the safe is so much better
Well said. Well worth it for a product you keep for a lifetime.
Hopefully you bought one to grow into. I have done outgrown mine so I will have to cry twice.
@@chrisbeekley1887 Hopefully you never have enough room in your safes. If you ever do that meant you had to stop buying guns and other things to fill it. And that's just sad.
@@chrisbeekley1887 😂😂😂😂 I mean you can always sell you safe for nearly what you bought it for as long as it’s in good condition
@@TheseRightHereBitch I wouldnt ever sell it. Just buy another and use it for ammo storage because we are gonna need that ammo before long.
$800 Canon safe is good, does the job. You can change attach pistol holders
Cannon safes are JUNK!!! Support is non existent!!!
Don't waste your money.
I've been jacked around for 2 months waiting on parts.
I've called and emailed every week and they dodge me.
You can call cannon for extras but don't expect any setvice.
I had a malfunction becauss of a flaw in the design and they won't send me the update.
Mike Mercado was the contact that dropped the ball!
Cannon safes are cheap Chinese junk... but I guess that's about all your keeping in a cheap safe is cheap junk.
@@KingMrBigE just found out that Canon safes are made in North Virginia
@@iiparachuteregiment8800 no... they are not. Actually according to their very own website they are being made in Mexico.
www.cannonsafe.com/blog/faq-items/cannons-safes-manufactured/#:~:text=Cannon%20Safes%20are%20made%20and%20manufactured%20in%20Mexico.
@@KingMrBigE kwl. To you it's still Mexican junk?
They are called "Stitch welds," not "Skip welds." Then shortly after that you call the stitch welds "spot welds." They are not "spot welds," performed with resistance welding, either. If you call welds by 2 incorrect names/descriptions, how am I supposed to believe you know anything about welding? While the one-piece, folded design is obviously better, the lack of being able to speak knowledgably about welds is very concerning. Next, there was absolutely no mention about the door gap. This is one of my biggest concerns on gun safes. I have not seen many that are as tight as I would prefer. Of course they are not going to be edge to edge, but I see too many gaps that enable a person to get a pry bar into them. Actually, the gap on the pivot side of the door on the Cannon safe is what I would like to see all the way around the door on the safe I buy for myself. The Liberty safe does not have it either. The information about the flat plates also seems to be misleading. The round locking bolts have a structural advantage over the flat plates. Flat plates bend, that's why I-beams were invented. I would expect the Liberty safe to be a better safe than the Cannon, and I prefer American made, but the plates instead of round bolts, the lack of knowledge about welding, and the door gaps are deal breakers for me.
Stitch welds, skip welds or intermittent welding are all the same things in our circles and industry. Regardless we are trying to convey that where applicable a full continuous weld is superior to a stitch weld.
Regarding you statement about Flat vs Round Bolts. Round bolts are strong but it's what they're connected to that's the weak spot. Most safes locking bolts are connected to a sheet metal mechanism by a rivet, small machine screw, bolt or welded (albeit rarely). These connections are a weak spot are it is routine that we see locking bolts tear away or shear off the mechanism during pry testing. In contrast the Flat Style Bars are laser cut form one solid piece of steel and have no weak connection points like the round bolts and the flat bars offer more surface contact and bite than round bolts. We sell safes that have both and the reality is if you're comparing two similar safes the flat style bars are superior.
@@NWSafe - "Skip welds" may be a regional thing, but they are still not "spot welds" which are an entirely different welding principle. I've just never heard "skip welds" in my 40 years of welding in Ohio, but like I said could be a regional term. I also just did research on a variety of American made safes (Rhino, Ironman, Vault Pro, Edison) in your price range and higher, and every one of them have round bolts, including safes that cost 3 times as much. We both know cutting your Flat Style Bar is the cheapest way to create a locking structure. What steel is the Flat Style Bar made from and how thick is it? Is is merely cold rolled (1018) or is it a hardened steel? As a Toolmaker, soon to retire, I am very interested in the principles behind this.
@@1001Hobbies I don't necessarily agree that the Liberty flat bars are cheaper to produce. The tooling and other issues created add difficulty and time to production. Also because of the thickness of the Flat Bars they outweighs the comparable round bolt mechanism piece that their competitors build. Remember, most safes with big round locking bots connect to a lightweight piece of steel where the flat bar is laser cut for one continuous piece of steel. Thickness of the flat bars depends on the model of Liberty Safe with the thinnest being 3/16" and the thickest being 1/2" Liberty claims cost was a wash compared to flat bars. It also allowed them to bring production in house and not having to rely on an outside supplier. The Flat Bars along with most locking bolts are just mild steel. Most safes we sell use round bolts and with that being said if your just comparing that piece of the mechanism the single piece flat bar is just better.
No matter what some Safe nerd tries to sell you on, never buy a safe with an electronic keypad. If they tell you it’s cool tell them to take the battery out of it and open it that will represent a failure in the electrical portion and you can never open it. Never buy a safe with an electronic keypad it’s not if they fail it’s when they fail you will not be able to open it. It will have to be cut open maybe if you get somebody that’s really good they can drill a small hole but I have two canon safes the box seems great but the keypads are not I cannot lock them because if they fail you cannot open them. Just my experience
Liberty may have better construction, better materials, and better dimensions, but Cannon doesn’t give out their master code without a subpoena. So I’ll pass on Liberty.
It looks like Cannon erased their “Lost Combination Assistance” page from their website earlier this week to avoid getting some of the same attention as Liberty. The reality is most of the larger safe manufacturers have historically always assisted Law Enforcement and had similar policies pertaining to combinations as Liberty. If any good has come from this situation it’s that all of the big safe manufacturers have taken this last week to quietly change their policies to prevent this from happening in the future.
@@NWSafe Agreed, couldn’t resist a little trolling. ;)
@@coleeldridge6206 understandable
It's better to buy a Parker safe.
They won't betray your trust like liberty.
The cannon has 45 min at 1200 degrees VS the Liberty at 40 min at 1200 degrees.....y'all lost me on that one!
Unfortunately in the safe industry there is no set standard when it comes to testing. That means the Cannon Safe did not experience the same test as the Liberty. The Cannon has less layers of fire insulation throughout the safe, a lighter gauge body and the body is stitch welded every 6-8" which not only affect security but fire. The made up sticker Cannon put on the door might look great but doesn't pass the smell test. We believer after digging deep into the details the Liberty is clearly the better fire safe due to the Liberty USA having a heavier 12 gauge body and door, more layers of fire insulation and a fully welded body.
On the fire test pretty much the liberty is underrated and the cannon is overrated
In case you cared, they now upped the USA series to 60 minutes of fire protection.
I purchased the USA 48 a few months ago and noticed Liberty sells a lifetime lock warranty. In your opinion is it worth it? How often do you see these electronic locks fail?
It's worth it. The safe will last you a lifetime but all locks need to be serviced in the future at some point. The lifetime lock warranty is money well spent. Liberty is also a financially responsible and healthy company so it's safe to say they'll be around for a long time. However I think the extended warranty has to be purchased at the time of warranty registration 30 days after delivery of your safe. I'd still give it a shot. If you run into issues call their customer service line.
It doesn’t matter how good you make your safe if you put a back door in it.
If you want half the size at twice the price get a liberty now if you’re just wanting security of a safe there is better options
You will pay more for a Liberty Safe but here's what you get when compared to most of their competitors which are Chinese Imports:
1. Better build quality like welding, prep & paint.
2. Made in the USA.
3. Quality UL Listed Locks (this is where a lot of mfgs. go really cheap).
4. Heavier Mechanisms: The new flat bars system has more surface contact than traditional round bolts and are constructed from 1 solid piece of laser cut steel right in their Payson, UT facility (most of the industry even if their safes are US built source their locking bolts from China).
I agree if price is your #1 concern buy an import safe from China. You will get more space for your money but the price difference isn't huge. However, if you're looking for the best value from a safe that will last you a lifetime and be passed through your family for generations then Liberty is a brand that should be considered. There's a reason they grew into the largest gun safe manufacturer in the US. A wise man once said
"Poor quality is remembered long after low prices are forgotten".
Will Cannon give the code to the Feds? We know Liberty does.
Does heat resistance really matter? I mean whatever guns inside are pretty much useless after being expose to all that heat?
If the heat inside the safe is not enough to melt plastics or burn paper and wood why would the guns be unusable?
Liberty has several interesting videos on their website. One involves a safe of theirs and a competitors safe in a kiln at the same time. Shocking results. They have other torture test videos as well.
Are you going to make the locking bars go further into the safe? The bars do not go that deep into the site.
Why always the door?? You have three sides and the top of the safe that you can easily take a angle grinder and cut into the safe….
Most criminals aren't the best and brightest out there.
How does this liberty safe compare with the Lincoln model?
The model in the video is the USA series. The Liberty Lincoln would be 3 Tiers up from the USA. The New Lincoln Series features a 110 minute fire rating, heavier body, door, mechanism and has several interior upgrades. Standard LED Lighting, Jewelry drawer, Power Outlet and dehumidifier. The Lincoln model is loaded with just about every option.
@@NWSafe great!
I am still waiting to see what they come up with for a side cutting attack on the safe. Do burglars even waste their time on a door attack anymore?
We hear a lot of talk about cutting attacks in the comment section but as far as real life we still see far more pry attacks than cutting. I would say for most entry level safes prying is going to be faster and more discreet but once you get to a higher quality safe prying is going to be off the table and cutting would be the best option.
I’ve seen more side cuts when the side is easily accessible, otherwise it’s door entry. If they want in they will get in. I’ve seen entry to an old bank vault. Guys broke concrete and brick walls to eventually cut hole in safe.
Most burglars are not skilled and are not able to do much of anything with all but the cheapest of safes. When you have your house alarmed you are not likely to lose anything well secoured. I don't know of anyone getting a real safe broken into after decades of work in law enforcement. I do know some of the cheaper and lighter safes that have been carted taken.
@@allenbmooresharinginformation , thanks for an HONEST statement! Bolt down your safe, make sure it's in a mostly hidden area and don't expect a gun CABINET to be a safe. Once these few thoughts are instituted, the safe is most likely just that, safe. Most thieves are looking for an easy mark, not a challenge.
@@markej4801 Limiting the number of people aware of firearms and valuables may be the best way to avoid an intrusion at all. From an early age, my kids were taught that the public was to know we were a gun free safe zone and broke. When hunting I always use coveralls so my appearance on returning home is just your average working putz.
The interior shelves on my Canon i purchased at Tractor Supply years ago are made out of particle board. One, after a year actually broke! I emailed Canon to obtain a new shelf but they never responded. So much for after the sale customer service. I ended up going to the hardware store and bought some birch plywood and made my own shelf. Why they used particle board for a shelf that stores heavy ammo is beyond me. Also poor hinge and door design that takes away storage space when closing.
FBI We got your Code
most safe companys have a lower grade or budget safe and all this proves is liberts budget safe is better then cannon but i have 2 older cannons made in usa that are there high in models and they are way better then what they make today they dont even do gloss paint anymore just crinkel paint it cut down on the body work crinkel paint hides alot of flaws. my next safe just mite be a high end liberty.
Yes, the older US Made Cannons are a great safe.
I got a Cannon VF24AR less then a week ago the handle shaft weld broke when this happens you will not be able to get in the safe without damaging it badly it’s definitely a weaker design I would choose a different one just because of this And it wasn’t a whole lot of Pressure I put on it to turn it when it happened either
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Water damage to room with safe. Mold was in safe . How to renovate the inside of the safe?
Depending on the manufacturer and year built you can often get a replacement interior. If you need any help email us pictures, serial number and brand/ model and we can see what’s available.
No help on “cleaning” up the safe. My thoughts-- strip all carpet, dry it out add humidifier pkgs and replace former carpet. Would any carpet work?
@@stevecallaway8457 We could help with the complete process but depending on the value of the safe it may make more sense to replace the whole unit. Again, send us info and we can help present the all the options.
@@NWSafe Water damage to closet safe was in. Closet and contents damaged with mold. Mostly thrown away. Guns in safe “repaired “ for rust. Safe now empty but closed during restoration of damaged rooms in house. DIY would rip out shelves, replace carpet inside the safe. Lock works. Condensation was culprit from soaked floor of the room. Would that work? Supplies to refurbish safe insides would be? Thanks. Safe located in Texas
@@stevecallaway8457 That’s a start but the most important info we would need is serial number, model, manufacture and pictures emailed to service@nwsafe.com
What about the difference in price?
at time of the test we found these safes a close as $200 apart.
The music lmfao
Ty needed this
Better design-struction. Nice.
A lot more expensive too.
Safes buy you time for the police or fire dept to get to your house. From the time they're called by your alarm co or you, it's no more than 5 minutes here where I live for either.
No doubt that safes buy you time but the reality is the safe you purchase is your last line of defense and what you can rely on being there to defend your valuables. For example, a fire department can easily be overwhelmed by natural disasters which can severely delay their response times or disable them from responding before the fire is out of control.
Example 2: We recently talked to someone who through their security cameras watched a thief take a cutoff wheel to their safe at a commercial location afterhours with no response from the police until nearly an hour later. Long after the thief left the premises after breaching the safe.
Emergency services, alarms, watchful neighbors, locks, etc. are all valuable layers of security. However, we've also seen all of those fail or be bypassed in critical situations which is why we put an emphasis on having the right safe in place to give you that last line of defense.
Is big horn same as cannon . I am shopping at costco
No, different manufacturers. Big Horn is a Chinese imported economy line of safes by Rhino Metals. In our opinion those would be a step above a Cannon Safe.
Just use a shoebox you dummies
Don’t waste your money. Buy a sturdy safe!
@@1FAST91SONOMA Or buy a used commercial safe. You'll get more security and fire protection than a Sturdy Safe for the money.
Sturdy is a good option to look at if someone is looking to spend +$2,600 for a safe the same size as the ones in the video. But for customers who want to buy American and spend less than $2K Liberty is the best option on the market.
@@1FAST91SONOMA Well said.
What scares me about the canyon safe is when the key pad goes bad. How can you get in? Customer Service stinks from what I have read.
Take the keypad faceplate off and use the physical key that comes with it to open the safe.
@@Tyanmax99 do all cannons come with a key ? My father in law just passed away and his will is believed to be in the safe but we don't know the combination to keypad. We hope to get in it without tearing it up. I seen a video using a strong magnet to open safes, so I guess I'll buy a magnet and see.
@@BeckyCowanBeckysDigitalFocus Sorry about your loss. The faceplate of the digital keypad should just turn and come off relatively easy if it's meant to come off. The key hole will be behind it. Look on the side of the safe and there should be a model/serial number on it. You should be able to google that info or call Cannon and find out more details.
@@Tyanmax99 thank you, I'll try it.
@@Tyanmax99 their website says they don't come with keys
Is a Liberty safe better than a Stack-On safe? I read online that a guy tried to pry open a Stack-On safe and broke a screwdriver from Harbor Freight.
Yes
Pry open a safe with a screwdriver? Who's that stupid?
@@IAMRUSTEDROOT and a Harbor Freight screwdriver at that haha.
should've used a pry bar.
What happens if your lock battery goes dead?
The lock has NVM so when you change your battery it retains your combination. Also, the battery is accessible from the outside of the safe in the keypad.
@@NWSafe what about EMPs are all you electronic pads protected?
@@merrittmcdowell8675 six months and no answer, hmmm. That's not a good sign to your great question!
don't be fooled. Thieves will break into anything and everything. it's just a matter of how bad they want it. I've seen a thief break through concrete to steal from a pawn shop
We see plenty of failed attempts to break into safes where lesser products would have failed. Yes, technically everything can be breached but the time, tools and knowledge it takes to break into a high security safe exceeds the capabilities of most thieves.
I bet cannon wont give the FBI your combination
Cannon erased their “Lost Combination Assistance” page from their website early last week to avoid getting some of the same attention as Liberty. The reality is most of safe manufacturers have historically always assisted Law Enforcement and had similar policies pertaining to combinations as Liberty. If any good has come from this situation it’s that all of the major safe manufacturers have taken this last week to quietly change their policies to prevent this from happening in the future.
Isn’t this a promo for Liberty?
As a company that has sold both we do think the Liberty is the better safe. Even if they were equal (which they’re not) we always will favor a US Made safe like Liberty versus the imported Cannon.
@@NWSafeyou get on your knees for big daddy w/o hesitation 😂
Canon Sierra dont RAT to the FBI
It looks like Cannon erased their “Lost Combination Assistance” page from their website earlier this week to avoid getting some of the same attention as Liberty. The reality is most of the larger safe manufacturers have historically always assisted Law Enforcement and had similar policies pertaining to combinations as Liberty. If any good has come from this situation it’s that all of the big safe manufacturers have taken this last week to quietly change their policies to prevent this from happening in the future.
@@NWSafe I hear you, I understand you and I believe you.
Let's be honest, when Bud Lite hired DM they weren't really doing anything especially new within the woke logic of all the other beer companies.
They simply did it at the wrong time in a society on the edge of brack, and they had to pay for the damage.
Liberty safes is now a tainted brand, because it was they who were caught at the most inappropriate moment with something that deeply and rightly offended their customer base. (I'm sorry, and believe me it really hurts my soul, but today a certain federal police that I am not going to mention has become the political police at the service of a particular party, As a good Banana Republik, which is in charge of persecuting those opposed to that party. ... and who cooperates with that political police in what is perceived as another of their abuses ... )
They may be as guilty or as innocent as the rest of the companies in the field, but they are paying for these broken dishes.
@@marcelbeck6865 Well said.
You pay for what you get. You want a cheap cannon, sentry, bjs, costco brand then don't waste money and get the secureit safe. The cheap safes arnt going to work well. Might as well get a good organization system
I did a little research and see you guys used a base model Costco safe for your comparison! Wow ' what a joke !!
The liberty USA series they compared it with is their equivalent base model. You would have known that if you did a little research.
@@user-mh5qg5jb7d its not lib base model
It's a Liberty Base model and Cannon Base model for that size range. At the time of the video the US made Liberty could be purchased for as little as a $200 difference than the imported Cannon Safe.The Liberty is also the most affordable US made safe out there in the size range. We also are trying to highlight why it's money well spent to spend a few extra hundred dollars to get the better made American safe.
What are you smoking . The cannon is like 700 bucks . If that . This liberty is Iike 1300 and up at least ..
Like I said at the time of the video the Liberty could be had for as little as $200 more. At this time of record sales you won't see the deals on Liberty because demand is way higher but I don't know where you can find a 40" wide Cannon for $700 now either. No doubt the Liberty is more money but It's a better safe. How much is American Made worth to you? How much would you pay for a better lock? How much more would you pay for more pry protection, better welding in the body, higher quality interior and door panel? In our opinion the Liberty is the better value. If those things don't matter and you just want a cheap, big safe by all means buy the Imported Cannon Safe.
This is old information.
Don't by the digital key pad safe . They are junk. And when you need to replace it and you will need to. The customer service is , well I will get the grinder out tomorrow and cut this tin box open thanks liberty $800.00 scrap
Maybe we can help? I've dealt with all the major safe brands for warranty issues and Liberty is by far one of the best in our experience. If you can contact us with more details we'll do our best to help out. Anything with moving parts can fail. Unfortunately when it's your safe it creates a major inconvenience.
Music is grating, annoying distraction.
That checks out.
Don't forget to get Liberty Mutal Insurance as well you guys
Let’s see liberty vs sturdy safe... now that’s a competition. Sturdy safes come with 4 gauge body and 3/8 steel door. American made..
Also almost 4 times the cost of a similar sized liberty. Sturdy makes alot of claims that their safes are the best also but havent seen proof. Im sure they are decent safes though.
C. E. SAFES
Pleased
Here's the point to all this, if I lock my guns in a cannon or the liberty it shows my intent to keep my F/As safe and secure.
As a law abiding gun owner that is my responsibility, to keep them safe and secure and I can do that with either safe. But I don't have liberty $$$ so I bought a cannon with same specs and as long as they stand behind their product I am good. If you have liberty $$$ then get you one, good on you. Bottom line is getting the guns locked up, gun safe buyers should qualify for a tax credit.
Best gun safe is my hand
Not if you own more than two guns... ;)
So unless it's stronger steel the plate of Steel you guys are using it's not going to be any stronger than a 1 inch cylinder steel lock a plate would be much easier to bend than the cylinder Which is far more thicker or do you not understand physics? The only thing they're adding to is a fact they have less room to get a crowbar in there what they do is going to be a lot easier to pry open than the other one when has huge 1in thick diameter Steel cylinders.
The weakness of a round locking bolt mechanism design is how the bolt connects to the rest of the mechanism. While you likely won't bend either the advantage of the flat bar is it's formed from one solid piece of steel which eliminates the weak connection points of a round bolt mechanism. The other advantage the flat bar mechanism has is more surface contact than a round bolt. For example a 4" flat bar has 4" of surface contact while a 1" round bolt doesn't even have a 1/4" of surface contact. We're pretty confident 4" is more than a 1/4" regardless of our poor understanding of physics... ;)
Music was stupid
LOL. You got us there.
No integrity
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Basically, the Liberty Safe feels solid and put together while the Cannon looks and feels like cheap junk.
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I literally just looked at both these safes side by side and this video is a joke ! It's all a lie !! The cannon safe in the video is not even close to current production!! The cannon is now a better safe than the liberty. Wow this is slander and fabricated facts ! You should be ashamed as a you tube creator!!
The month this video was launched in 2020 this Model was an online special sold through Costco. Does Cannon build different models than this? Of course but they're still plague with many of the same issues and are still imported from China or Mexico. This video was comparing a similar sized entry level Cannon Safe to an entry level Liberty Safe. We think for a few hundred dollars more you can get a Liberty safe that has a better lock, better welding, thicker body, better door, better mechanism and is made in the USA. Can you even get a Cannon Safe anymore that's not made in Mexico or China?
Lol, both of those "safes" are complete garbage.
What's your definition of garbage? Both of these safes are what we would consider entry level. The reality is the build quality for the Liberty is one of the best you'll find at the price point. Is it the best security? Nope. But it wasn't designed or priced to be that.
Both are junk. Save your money and buy a real safe. Graffunder, AMSEC, etc.
Graffunder & AMSEC build great safes. I think the AMSEC BF is one of the best values in the gun safe world but a BF starts at 3-4 times the cost of the safes in the video. Also, an Amsec at the same price as the Liberty Safe in this video would be a Chinese made import and a Graffunder the same size starts at more than $8K. Not everyone needs a high end safe. The consumers looking at the safes featured might only be protecting a couple thousand dollars in value. I don't think a $8K Graffunder would be the right choice for them. To say that both safes are junk just isn't true. The build quality of the Liberty is just as good as a high end Graffunder or Amsec and in many ways even better.
i wont buy any robot welded box , need to keep welders working not machines.
We understand that. There are still plenty of welders on the Liberty production floor. One thing to keep in mind is even a robotically welded Liberty Safe employs more Americans than the import safes they compete against.
@@NWSafe ogood to know you guys are looking out for American workers. Thanks for info