What's God About? | Episode 911 | Closer To Truth
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- Theists and atheists debate whether God exists. But what God are they arguing over? There's enormous variation in the kinds of gods that populate religions. Featuring interviews with Robert Russell, Philip Clayton, Ian Barbour, John Leslie, and Keith Ward.
Season 9, Episode 11 - #CloserToTruth
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This is so darn good and so well done. The writing in particular is just excellent. Robert thinks through all he is learning and narrates it out loud as the viewer is also thinking about the concepts just learned. "Why day is today? And which day is closer to truth?" What a brilliant ending. It shines a light on the paradox and juxtaposition that Robert and many of us feel day by day. When I hear writing this good it just tingles every molecule in my body. Sounds a bit dramatic maybe, but I really feel this is that good.
God has sent clear books to humans on earth, but humans have corrupted these books.
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Searching the God very close.
@@mazen1010
The LAST MESSAGE (BOOK) sent down to humans, God took it on Himself to preserve it and not get it corrupted!
God talks about "WHAT GOD IS ABOUT AND WHAT HUMAN IS ABOUT"!
Robert, if he wants to know what God is about, should try to find it in this BOOK, known as Quran!
@@masoodulhameed Yes, but Quran tells the people of the book that Quran has the same truths as carried out at the earlier books sent by Allah. This means that Muslims must do effort to find the remnants of the truth of the earlier books and separate out the corruptions. For example, the new testament of the bible has only 4 books that claim to tell the story of Jesus. The three gospels Mark, Matthew and Luke have similar stories. The book of John contradicts 90% of the three gospels and have pagan writings. While the books of Paul are pure paganism, which he made up.
Unfortunately, many of today's Christians do not follow Jesus, as they took the pagan books of Paul (Saul of Tarsus) as their guide.
The three gospels (Mark, Matthew and Luke) have many correct teachings of Jesus that matches closely to Quran. However, it is clear that all the gospels have contradicting information about what exactly happened after Jesus was captured by the Roman soldiers. Quran tells that Jesus was not the one who was put on the cross (which is the same as told at the end of the gospel of Judas)
Wa Aslam Alikum
I like the way Robert ends the episode: "which day is Closer to Truth."
But now that I think of it, that statement ( "which day is closer to truth") might mean I'm "sitting on the fence."
@@rubiks6 ..... If that's the case, I wonder if Robert and I are sitting on the same fence? Ooops... did I hear something crumble? Maybe that's a "good thing?"
@@rubiks6 wow... thanks for sharing all that. I don't trust men. I certainly don't trust myself. But I do go by feelings a lot. But I agree that feelings can be deceivers. I like that verse from Hebrews that you quoted. I also like that verse from Matthew. What do you think it means by " the way is hard that leads to life...?"
@@rubiks6 Ooops... I should have said what do you think Jesus meant when used the word "hard" in "the way is hard that leads to eternal life?" Did he mean we'll suffer? Did he mean we'll have a "hard" time finding evidence for that eternal life ( I don't think he meant that ). I think the clue is when he said "the way is easy that leads to destruction." Right?
@@lvr8429 I basically agree with what you said. I believe Jesus did speak with riddles and parables on many occasions. And I think some of the people back then did understand his way of communication. But many probably did not comprehend what he said. Even Nicodemus seemingly misunderstood Jesus' words. That certainly strikes me as highly unusual.
Of course we have to assume the language ( whatever Jesus spoke ) was much different from languages today. Jesus' communication included phrases and idioms that often puzzled and amazed the crowds who listened. If such happened 2,000 years ago, why would it not happen today? We have to accept that a human language is the only way to try to communicate God's words. I guess we all need to study linguistics? Hahaha
9 hundred and 11 episodes and this guy still hasn't made a choice. I'd hate to be behind him at a Subway sandwich shop.
Doubleminded unstable in all his ways. I know what you mean. NAMASTE
God is a question of personal belief, not reality.
Thank you god 🙏🏽for this show
So many gods, so many religions and in these religions so many different beliefs.
God whomever you are if you read this please come fix the chaos going on in your name so we can have peace
@Stefano Portoghesi well i asked believers before to pray to their gods to come and fix things here and nothing happened yet so i decided to write to their gods here maybe one of them is on TH-cam
@Stefano Portoghesi i don't think you understand my sarcasm.
Anyway the Abrahamic god of the old testament was someone that needed food washing and resting, that's the god I'm referring to.
Not talking about the creator of all that I don't see as the same as Abrahamic gods.
All gods of today's religions once walked the earth among men, to me they are only gods nothing more, someone man put on a pedestal to worship who is not capable of fixing this chaos caused by religion in his name
Man of future will understand and sum up all religions, including the whole line of mankind..like Nietzsche said about the "Übermensch"..
@Stefano Portoghesi That's evolution, future man wears all cultures in itself!
@Stefano Portoghesi How I said, future man will include all cultures and all religions, not separated anymore. Future man has his roots in all of our today cultures. Like Nietzsche explained, that future man will include the "whole line of mankind", would sum up all religions, will reveal the way and goal of mankind in inner and final significance, would give earth its goal and mankind its hope. If you recognize yourself, you already know that other cultures are part of you. If someone hurts others or hates other cultures, then he has not recognized his self.
God is about peace, tranquility, what is good for all and not for a few, heaven in short.
We could imagine our world and reality same as any animals, but we choose to believe it's something more than physical and psychological, therefore God.
@Saint Christopher Noise
@Saint Christopher hipersensibility
@Saint Christopher transcendental
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I beleive "religion" is the limiting factor of God. Dr. Kuhn i thing what you said in closing holds true.
For every person, not beleif system, there is a conception of God or no god.
We all express ourselves individually in life as in beleif. Thank you sir.
Greetings... If I may I would like to say I agree with you for religion is a "limiting" factor. It (religion) has been created by man and its creators set the limit. God has nothing to do with religion but I believe in a CREATOR despite abhoring religion. Peace!
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_I believe in a CREATOR_
*Evidence?*
Do you have *one piece of good evidence" that your "CREATOR" actually exists? If not, then what difference does it make?
@@Bill_Garthright I can't prove a CREATOR or God if you like exists. Justike you can't prove consciousness or self awareness exists but yet its there. I can't explain why events took place in history that allows me to exist. All I know is the laws and rules that allow you to ask questions and allows me to respond to them exist and were created. Peace!
@@garshdarnitibelieve8260
_I can't prove a CREATOR or God if you like exists._
So what? I didn't _ask_ for proof. I don't believe that proof is even _possible_ in the real world.
I just asked for evidence. In fact, I just asked for *one piece of good evidence.* Just *one.* If you don't even have *one,* then why do you believe it? Is it just wishful-thinking? Is it just because that's what you were taught to believe as a child, and you really, really _want_ it to be true?
Obviously, you can believe anything you like. But why should I take it seriously when you don't have even *one* piece of good evidence backing it up?
@@Bill_Garthright evidence is proof, you did ask for evidence. You are free to believe and live your life the way you want as long as your beliefs do not jeapordize the life, health, safety and property of others except in the line of justice. Take care, Peace!
Dear Robert : your epic journey will soon be at an end.
It's been a pleasure travelling with you .
" To strive, to seek , to find , and not to yield '
One word: POWER
Just that god doesnt exist.
@@peppe77ish What's your definition of God?
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The Greek version of the Exodus to the Deuteronomy speak about those who make contact with "god" while they are in a low state of self and low of existence . The whole point is about joining god while in a similar state . Making contact with god in a state different from that is not necessary to be mentioned as in an epic because there is no struggle appart from that way in contacting god. From that view the conclusion would be that humanity is stuck in a basic state of evolution at making contact with god.
The old testament was re-written under the Babylonian captivity and the new testament was heavily corrupted by the pagan Roman empire.
Is god as understood by various religions necessary?
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Praying is talking to yourself
Praying is mental masturbation
I wonder about that all the time. I actually pray to Billy Joel. Any guy who looks like him and marries Christy Brinkley is other worldly!
Prayer is a request that the laws of the universe be annulled.
Prayer is just our demonstration that we believe in God. The believe in God comes from examining everything around us.
Mazen Ba-abbad
But all you religious people believe in different gods.
They can’t all be true.
God is about happiness. Possession of the inner Kingdom Of God is possession of infinite happiness.
The more we learn about the universe, the smaller god's role in it becomes. If the most learned theologians and philosophers in the world can't reach a consensus on just what constitutes a god, what its properties are, how or even whether it interacts with the world in any way, why should I believe any of them? Especially when nothing known to science points to the existence, or even the possibility of a god. It's all just wishful thinking, as far as I can see.
I agree.
What bothers me; is when people of religion claim to know. As if they have some sort of insight that we do not have. Have they met this god? I think not. And it annoys me that they speak as if they have.
@@rubiks6 No, I am not "sinful", I have no concept of "sin", as no such thing exists outside of religious texts, which I have no interest in. Reasoning is the most important and useful intellectual tool we have, so I have no intention of abandoning mine, and I've "been around" for quite some time. I have looked my entire life, and the "hand of god" is nowhere to be seen.
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@@ritualeromanum2466 How about no. I am not seeking anything, and I reject your homework assignment. I am happy to remain as I am now.
@@ritualeromanum2466 You obviously missed the fact that I am not looking for anything. There is no emptiness in me that needs filling, and I do not read things in which I have no interest, especially things of a philosophical bent. And there is nothing "scientific" about someone else's thoughts or opinions. I need do no further research to fix what isn't broken.
Great search. Thanks
Able to see or atleast feel God to the extent we can be sure, is the biggest luxury we can have, it is only then that we can be confident when we face the awful, terrible, horrific moment of death, at that time there is no one to help us revive or come back to normal, our life is forced and taken away from is, so therefore I think God, or a supernatural entity surely needs be existant in order to be able to give back out life. It's most important thing for all of us, so focus on God....
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Why God has to force of kindness and moral good?
God is life personalized..
So little time to know why, is it a simulation, is it multiverse, so little time
Pandeism, Ietism, Panpsychism, Animism and the Eastern Religions were not mentioned 😞
Personally I think if Robert can pierce through is scientific mind he might just get closer to the truth ,
So what if you find the truth? Are you willing to follow the truth? It seems like he just wants to hear what sounds good to him. Because he likes himself way to much to give up anything what he is doing in life. Follow a God requires you to give up some part of your life.
_It seems like he just wants to hear what sounds good to him._
Sure. But isn't that what _all_ theists do? Theists can't even agree with _each other._ There's a reason for that.
Do you have *one piece of good evidence* that your god actually exists? Do you have *one piece of good evidence* that your god isn't just imaginary? I'm not looking for a whole Gish Gallop of vague claims, but if you don't have even *one* piece of good evidence, then you have nothing at all.
And _of course_ an imaginary god is likely to be whatever the theist wants him to be. That's exactly what we'd expect, isn't it?
Isn't that why Christians can't even agree with _each other,_ let alone with all of the other faith-based people in the world, even when they're all supposedly following the same magic book supposedly provided to them by the same supposedly all-knowing deity who _wants them to know that stuff?_
If it's all wishful-thinking, then... doesn't that explain everything?
@@Bill_Garthright the problem is... theist allow there disagreements to divide them. Im a theist and Im fine if someone disagree with me cause I like having conversations. thanks for the feedback.
@@HomeTeamRock
_theist allow there disagreements to divide them_
You might ask yourself why that is.
Scientists come to a _worldwide_ consensus on issues, regardless of the fairy tales those individual scientists were taught to believe as children. That's because science is evidence-based. In fact, the scientific method is the most reliable method we've ever discovered of distinguishing reality from delusion and wishful-thinking.
Meanwhile, as I noted, Christians can't even agree with _other Christians_ about much of anything, let alone with the other faith-based people in the world. That seems to be because religion is based on nothing but wishful-thinking. (Obviously, there is nothing - literally _nothing_ - so crazy, so silly, or so wrong that it can't be defended by an appeal to faith.)
The overwhelming majority of faith-based people worldwide just believe in whatever religion and whatever god or gods they were taught to believe as children. There's a reason why 83% of Italians are Christian, while 90% of Egyptians are Muslim and 80% of Indians are Hindu. (And yet, the scientific consensus is the same in all three countries.)
I like having conversations, too. And, of course, you can believe whatever you want. But if you care about the _truth,_ wouldn't you be evidence-based?
God has sent tens of thousands of messages to earth, but shortly after the prophet dies, the evil part of the free willed people come and corrupt it. Quran is the last message.
@@mazen1010
_God has sent tens of thousands of messages to earth_
*Evidence?*
There's more than 900 episodes of this? Holy crap
There's a lot of episodes, but I don't think it's that many.
The episode number 911 I believe refers to it being the 11th episode of the 9th "season".
Not sure how many episodes to a season - around 15 i think but surely let than 20. So that makes the total number around 135? So far, that is.
And he also had put up a good few interview videos that don't count as "episodes" so that adds a bit to the number.
They're not all about God. Some are consciousness, some cossmological stuff. It's all interesting.
@@cosmikrelic4815 god, consciousness, cosmos
Let us all vote in favour of RLK getting a Nobel.
We have asked all the questions seek all the answers yet only few have realized the truth in a single lifetime. In the old days where technology wasn't available truth seekers and scholars use to travel from place to place looking for a worthy adversary someone with a greater understanding and one of such intellect was a man called Mr. A one day he hears of a mystic living near a temple were he was debating another scholar. Hearing about this mysterious man he goes to him and upon arrival he greets Gotham and asks the usual where god is, what the meaning of life is and so on Gotham hears his question and agrees to answer it but only under one condition that he stays with him for two years in his temple without a single word spoken. So the seeker hearing this odd request thinks a great deal then drops his students and accepts the challenge of Gotham for the sake of curiosity, while doing so another student of Gotham laughs and says "I too was here seeking for answers like you, he is tricking you by the time your years are up not only your questions you wont even remember your self." So two years pass and as buddha promised calls and asks Mr. A what his question was but Mr. A simply laughs realizing he has completely forgotten who it was that asked let alone the question. What intrigues me most about this stories are their similarities from one teacher to another gapped between hundreds of years apart in completely different places yet they use the same method.
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I don't know about humans but I think God does not have free will...
1. You can choose to cease to exist by committing suicide (God forbid!)...but God can never cease to exist...come what may...
So, how can God be called free?
2. You can choose to leave the path of goodness and start doing bad deeds...God can never ever even wish to do bad deeds..
So how come God has total free will??
i love this guy
The god debate is truly weak it really is....when it loses its steam.. its time to cash in your coins.
What the hell does "highest substance" even mean?
Quran gives a very clear understanding that matches with everything we see. The bible has very corrupted information.
@@mazen1010 I don't mean disresepct, but the Quran has inspired some of the wickedest acts committed by humans in recent generations. The Bible has too, but its followers have been moving away from that type of behavior for centuries.
@@durosempre4470 thank you. I was about to angrily reply but you beat me to it. Don't you want to dissect the sentences in the quran separately and prove sentence after sentence of it could be taken a million different ways?
@@mazen1010 They both contain inaccurate information. Don't uncritically believe either.
@@robotaholic But don't forget the Bible and the New Testament were written within an ancient culture much different than ours. Their perception of things was from a Near Eastern worldview.
The question about the existence of God is nonsense. There are words in the language that do not have a practical use and that do not necessarily mean something. God is one of those words. For example: Is there a Santa Claus? Does it make sense to ask yourself that question?
Oh God.
I have been an Atheist since I was 12 years old. And I felt had to pretend I believed in God because of my family. My Mother had me baptized when I was 8, and I went along with it because she made me feel like guilty about going against her wishes. I was chastised for asking to many questions while I was being taught about God.
I would ask questions such as “Why isn’t there anything about the dinosaurs in the Bible?” or “Why did God let people be burned at the stake if there wasn’t any real witches?” Or “what about all the Greek Gods or Egyptian Gods?”
I had a lot more questions I wanted to ask, but I was told to “shut-up”. And “It is disrespectful to ask questions like that”.
It was hurtful and felt unjust that I wasn’t allowed to ask questions. I really wanted to believe in God and I thought there was something wrong with me because I never heard him talk to me. And I truly tried to find a way to really believe. I was getting tired of feeling guilty for pretending to believe in God. I needed those questions answered in order to make it all work in my head. It was incredibly frustrating to be told I was bad for asking innocent queries about things I didn’t understand.
That was the beginning of the end of my church going days.
And as I grew in life experience and confidence in my own judgements about the world. I began to accept the truth..... that everyone I had ever known was either lying about God. Or that everyone was just acting like they could hear God or they were just plain mistaken about him.
I have read many books and watched countless documentaries and debates in order to know how to explain why I didn’t believe in God. To me, that is the true evil of teaching children to believe in supernatural beings. I wasted a huge amount of time and energy trying to disprove the existence of God. And when I consider the amount of energy from the consolidation of all religious beliefs and believers, it becomes a staggeringly vast waste of human potential and resources.
And frankly, I think it is diabolical to continue to profligate religion as though it is necessary for human morality or wellbeing.
When the opposite is more than often the truth.
Anyway, these videos are a very good path to follow if you seek deeper understanding about the subject and I have enjoyed the series a lot. I appreciate the depth this series goes to ask the hard questions. 😃👍🏻
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I actually just watched the video. And while I appreciate the sentiment of you trying to help me. I already know much more about how genes work and the human nervous system. Nobody needs to tell those organs in our bodies what to do because of the instructions built into our DNA. This instructions are not written by any being.
DNA is passed on from our ancestors, as far back as evolution goes. Over the vast expanse of time the DNA was copied countless billions of times as the cells replicate. The copies are not flawless, there can be errors that may or may not cause a mutation. The mutation most likely won’t be an improvement. But in rare cases it can cause a mutation which is beneficial to the organism. The organism that has the beneficial mutation might then be more likely to successfully pass on its genes.
@@Futuresolidsnake Sorry for the delay. I tried tio explain “Who is the God we beleive? And What are the smilar aspects sharre science and religion ? “ It is a kitle bit long and first two pragraphs are the same as the prvious anwer .
I hope this opens us different perspectives.
SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD THROUGH THE THEORY OF EVOLUTION
Human being is made by GOD to be best interlocutor and inspector to his arts exhibited all-around the earth and universe. Those arts inform His infinite skills and hidden treasures of His Names. Divine purpose is to be known and loved by especially those inspectors. So, God equipped man with all kind of implements to detect and explore the secrets of His Beautiful Names which are shinning on the faces of all-beings by science and math as good as feelings and emotions. He made the man a small-scale universe and the best marvelous art among the others for His prestige.
We are not searching a bacterium or aliens made of substance. We determine Him with his properties (limitless knowledge and flawless power and effective will) gleaming on the beings and on their death and blind particles having no mind performing and fallowing their duties, rules and laws perfectly with no mistake. We do not say we believe in God when we cannot find any reason to explain how something happens in nature. We believe in God reveals himself by his actions could be determined by science and math and make things by reasons (such as DNA, genes, organs, systems) having no real effectiveness on God’s issues. God makes all beings by reasons not for helping his flawless power only uses them to introduce himself to attentive minds and hearts. God takes the performance of using reasons as a pray accepted almost every time and create results as hoped. But sometimes doesn’t accept it according to necessity of His Names and doesn’t create the result as expected or may create different results.
Philosophy of science says there is no absolute necessity between reasons and results in nature. Especially we may observe this at the laboratories. Sometimes we apply the same process to cells and get different results.
Reasons and results are correlations coming into being together by creation of flawless power to show the consequences and defining the levels of His Beautiful Names.
Divine purpose is to be known and loved as mentioned before. He created the Grand Huge Universe and all the beings to introduce himself correctly. So, each action in universe and beings should show directly His Names and Properties. He is intensively caring about this fact and has no tolerance for any reason to conceal his intentions. So, He doesn’t give any real absolute power to anything or any being at all. The forces we observe in nature rely on His flawless power in deep reality.
Reasons have no real forcefulness on His activities. They are only just transparent veils on Divine Force operations. Behind those transparent veils Divine Names and Properties should be seen and determined obviously. Reasons like particles, atoms, molecules, DNA, genes etc. which are all blind, deaf and dead and have no mind and impotent are performing vital, detailed, precise duties which are exceeding their capacities and power and point us limitless knowledge and flawless power and effective will and His Names properly.
Since His Names and Properties have no limits and cannot be enclosed, His actions which are the results of Names & Properties are not able to be determined and written down properly without assumptions. So, science and math always use assumptions or axioms which can’t be proved or disproved to discover the secrets of the Universe. If you change your assumptions or axioms, you’ll get different results. For instance, science accepts the universe as real not imagination and accepts all the laws and forces are prevailing throughout the universe. These axioms sound logical. But science also accepts that a natural result and an event in nature could be explained by only a natural reason. This is another assumption which cannot be proved or disproved but why and how? This axiom keeps the God’s issues and His aims out of line. This assumption claims the reality of a film on the screen might be only explained by pixels on the screen. If we would be living creatures on the screen within 2 dimensions, according to this claim, we would never comprehend the reality beyond the screen which have 3 or more dimensions.
So, since science should use assumptions (as religion offers and does) and describes itself as intelligent belief using rational methods. But science is a belief (using assumptions) like religion (as science describes religion) in final analysis.
Philosophy of science tells us we should believe to know. So, since science is rising on belief, scientists explain events by theories (atom theory, electricity theory, theory of gravity, general theory of relativity, special theory of relativity, quantum field theory, evolution theory, etc.) strengthened by reasonable evidences which are interpretations. For the reason God made and designed the universe a grand huge book to be read, Religion encourages us to explore the universe by math and science on the basis of much more reasonable assumptions.
Finally, you may believe in Evolution Theory which is especially hiding Divine Names and Properties as a result of assumption of science tells us events in nature could be only explained by natural reasons or you may consider blind, powerless, deaf, mindless particles, atoms, molecules perform their duties almost at the speed of light with no mistake right now, regardless of our ancestors and their history of millions of years. They obey the instructions coming from the Laws or DNA or etc. and helping Life, our lives in every moment. Our lives on are rising on dead particles in every second without any definition of life even made by science unlike our particles and instructions seem to have a certain definition of life. As the degree of darkness rises brightness of light increases, you may see the Divine Force and Knowledge and Will on the faces of powerlessness and mindlessness and blindness of particles and reasons. A code like DNA having crucial instructions for undescribed life and which is written more complicated than binary system cannot be written and controlled through our trillions of cells in darkness without Real Code Writer and Controller.
@@Futuresolidsnake sorry for the mistakes in the first paragraph. Pls kindly find the corrected one.
“Sorry for the delay. I tried tio explain “Who is the God we beleive? And What are the smilar aspects sharre science and religion ? “ It is a little bit long and first two pragraphs are the same as the previous answer .
I hope this opens us different perspectives.”
I was in the same boat as you once. Similar thoughts and feelings too. But then i thought one day, what would i do differently if God gave me his powers?? Of course things like suffering and pain would be a no brainer. No sickness, disease, cancer etc etc. No murder nobody dies young , nobody starves and so on. But then i thought well wth, how would us human learn anything?? It came to me that earth is simply a school for us souls living a physical life , learning, observing, understanding and gaining knowledge. Are we able to do all that in one life time? Lotta souls dont get by age 3 so the answer to that question wud be a hard no. We incarnate numerous times. Learning both sides of the coin depending on the situation. I think we all go thru every situation possible. So if ur a short minority and bald male today, u might have been a tall white dude with rock star hair in previous lives. Betty white passed away age 99. Her next 10 incarnations she might not get passed age 12. All 12 with totally different situations. All im saying is that we all lean towards a near perfect world if we cud help it but what good would it be if EVERYONE lived a solid life , happy life, passed 100, no disease or suffering, and we all live happily ever after. How good would that be ?? Really? If u actually think about it. There has to be bad and a ton of it too in order for us to understand good and not take for granted when good things happen. Life wud go/be stale if everything was good. Every job u apply for u get. Every tee shot goes down the middle of the fairway. Every girl u ask out says yes....and nobody ever gets the flu lol.
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I didn’t know that Neil Patrick Harris was into theology.
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To discuss or debate whether or not a "god" exists, you would have to know what a god is to know whether it existed or not - but if you knew what a god is, then it would be because it was already known that a god existed. The very fact that there are debates whether or not a god exists is the proof that a god doesn't exist. Furthermore, when you use a label such as the word god for something not known to exist, it renders the label meaningless because it becomes wholly non-specific. It could theoretically represent anything to anyone which means it could be anything, it could be everything, and it could be nothing, all at the same time. The correct way to frame what might be regarded a debate as to the existence of a god would be - a debate as to whether or not what I presently hold in my head to be what I would term a god exists when what I hold in my head can change and is completely arbitrary because I couldn't know if it existed even if what I am referring to were planted in front of me because all my definitions for what it might be are my own and have nothing to do with recognizing it as a form but only to do with its ostensible universal attributes or essences which cannot be observed or known or discerned from within the relative dimension as humans cannot discern infinities (omniscence, ubiquitousness, omnipotence, for starters). In other words, any and all discussions involving the term god are a complete waste of time. The reason it doesn't feel like a waste of time is because there is an accepted overlap between what most people might think of as a god and that would go to ultimate origins, or simply put, how everything got here. This somewhat common overlap gives people a sort of subconscious yet false sense that when they bring up the term god that everyone is talking about the same thing, lending a false credibility to it that it does exist or even might exist.Setting aside all the problems outlined above depicting how it isn't the same thing in any two peoples' brains, if everyone could agree that what everyone's version of a god has in common is that it is responsible for the universe, then once again, we are assuming things of a non-specific, underlying, primary nature that might exist outside the universe, outside space/time, and are thus, once again unknowable by our point of reference consciousnesses, making the whole discussion moot, as in, if there is something outside this realm that is responsible for this realm, we cannot know it, and thus, there is nothing we can say about it, making it pointless to even talk about it theoretically. You see, boys and girls, anything to do with what people generally and personally might refer to as a god is a big black hole of nothingness that necessarily leads to nowhere, but people, in general, are not smart enough to understand that not only do they not know what they are talking about when it comes to the term god, but they can't understand that they can't know what they are talking about, making the whole god thing an endless merry-go-round. Everyone on the planet would have to understand what I just laid out in order to set the god thing behind them. How many hundreds of thousands of years are we away from that happening?
@@rubiks6 You are exactly the type and level of complete moron these videos are aimed at.
you know. I think it is interesting to know where morality came from. Do you know that animals express moral behavior? This is the first clue that it is evolution based.
The first rules that we find against immoral behavior are older than Judaism and Christianity by far. Moral behavior is avoiding pain. This is easy to understand.
If moral behavior depended on the Bible we should look at the period when all morality was based on the Bible. That period of time was the middle ages in Europe. The dark ages. What did we have. Monarchs that could do whatever they wanted by Devine command. No freedom of speech. Oppression, slavery, Wich Hunt, no equal right for women and we can go on and on.
The Bible did not provide a moral agenda against slavery, discrimination, genocide, selling your next of kin into slavery and a lot more idiotic things that where accepted as pretty normal.
Christians may have been involved in some moral standards that we now hold, I will not deny so, but it's common sense that dictated morality not their Bible.
The fundament of western morality comes from Athens 2500 years ago. Where laws of democracy and freedom of speech began to take shape.
Moral behavior is behavior that avoids pain. It is important to understand this very well. Life in all it forms tent to avoid those things that are painful or destructive. That is what drives life. We are a socially interdependent species. If I want to avoid pain I must learn not to express behavior that may cause pain to others. This is the base of all morality. There is nothing Devine, supernatural or biblical about that. In fact it's an insult to human intelligence to even suggest that we need Devine command for this very principle.
It is more logic to state that the Bible borrowed moral rules from society. That is why the Bible has really impossible rules like if you rape a woman you have to marry her.
This rule is due to the fact that nobody wanted to marry a woman that wasn't a virgin. A sick habit that worked directly against the victim of violence instead of the violater. Also stoning people with different sexual preferences is deeply rooted in the biblical morality. Male superiority? The Bible! We can also argue that from a biblical standpoint it is not unacceptable to regard on race superior over another because this is what God does himself.
The Bible did not even look at woman's right. Twelve year old children could be forced to marry older man which we now know is truly damaging for children that young. Thus the Bible endorsed one of the most immoral things a man can possibly do. God should have known better. Or he should have shaped us better. The Bible notoriously doesn't respect the right of the individual. It simply commands and supports undemocratic rules.
Western morality therefore is absolutely not based on the Bible. We cannot deny history that shows that more people have been killed and mistreated in the name of gods than in the name of any devil ever.
Morality is a secondary and dependent problem on the existence of God and an infinite life after this life. If there is no God and no life after this life, then we will be just another element of the other creature's natural cycle eat, compete, multiply and then die.
@@mazen1010 there is truth in what you say. That's why it is so strange to claim that morality proofs the existence of a god.
But consider this. What you say is that only because it is not acceptable to you to just be another creature, there has to be a life after... That is a perfect case of wishful thinking. It has no evidential power.
@@Carlos-fl6ch The existence of the creator (God, Allah, Elohim,...) is realized by examining everything inside us and outside us. As everything inside us and outside us is a running machine made out of dead parts, and every machine to exist it must have a manufacturer and a programmer.
The first machine to consider is our brain and the trillions of living things that have some kind of brain. These machines require trillions of processes that we don't even know or understand to generate billions of electromagnetic pulses every second and route them through the billions of neurons at different route every time, to give us our thoughts, feelings, emotions, actions and reaction along with the motor functions and the life support systems.
May peace be upon you
@@mazen1010 I am very sorry to say so but this is the worst argument for a god that actually exist.
First of all it's a god of the gaps argument. You don't understand how complexity arise so God. That is just ignorance.
Than it is self refuting if complexity proves a designer than the designer itself must be complex and thus created.
Nothing we know in this universe it created. Manufacturing is not a creation proves it's a rearranging proces. All materials already exists. They have just been shaped in a certain form to have a certain function. That's it.
If creation is true it shows that God is truly a bad designer. There is so much wrong with creation. Even the existence of flaws is our genes, so many people getting born with strange mutations or deseases that would prove that the designer cannot possibly be omnipotent or he is a cruel sadistic narcissistic idiot.
This argument is flawed on so many ways that you can only believe it if you stick your fingers in your ears and loudly yell bla bla bla for your whole life in order not to understand how it truly works.
I want to ask you something about your logic.lets say you walk on the beach and you see a watch. Than you think aha a watchmaker right?
Now you walk further and you see a can opener. What do you think? Aha there also is a can opener maker or do you think wow watchmakers also make can openers.
Now you continue to walk and you see a ship. Look at that you think a ship maker. Why is it logic to assume that the shipmaker is the same as the watchmaker.
You see. God is just an assumption it doesn't get you anywhere by no means. It's just a bad argument.
@@Carlos-fl6ch My dear friend,
*First of all it's a god of the gaps argument. You don't understand how complexity arise so God. That is just ignorance*
It is funny that the atheists pretend that they may have the knowledge (given infinite time) to create another universe and to create life. And based on this childish imagination they preserve the right to deny the infinite knowledge and power of God. The issue is not complexity as you claimed, we don't know even how and where to start (i.e. subatomic particles level, the atomic level, the molecular level,..etc.)
Funny enough that you ignored the fact that even our own brains (the claimed tools that we must use to defeat the idea of God's existence) are operating without our will and are set to age and deteriorate with time. Also, funny enough that the bright infinite future of humanity has never existed and will never exist.
As humans throughout history have only perfected the art of abuse, deception and self-destruction. So, before dreaming about infinite bright future for humanity, let the humans first stop acting like mindless earthworms and stop destroying their own planet and poisoning the same air that they breath and the water that they drink.
*Than it is self refuting if complexity proves a designer than the designer itself must be complex and thus created*
You have a problem of understanding singularities. As you demand a number to be larger than infinity as in your mind, infinity is just another large number.
*Nothing we know in this universe it created. Manufacturing is not a creation proves it's a rearranging proces. All materials already exists. They have just been shaped in a certain form to have a certain function. That's it*
You are ignoring the fact that the universe is both expanding and the stars are burning their fuels. Also, you are imagining that all the processes are completely reversible, and thus, can be infinitely recycled, which is very wrong and against all the observations.
*If creation is true it shows that God is truly a bad designer. There is so much wrong with creation. Even the existence of flaws is our genes, so many people getting born with strange mutations or deseases that would prove that the designer cannot possibly be omnipotent or he is a cruel sadistic narcissistic idiot*
We can't talk about good design and bad design when we don't understand the purpose and intended function of the creature. God has created ugliness, deformities and all sorts of illnesses purposefully to humble us and even to annoy us. As the only reason that God has created this temporary universe is to be our temporary education and testing ground, but after the last generation of humans will be terminated from earth, God is going to destroy this whole universe and create a permanent new land and a permanent new heaven. And all the living creatures will be resurrected and brought up to the grand judgment day.
*This argument is flawed on so many ways.. Look at that you think a ship maker. Why is it logic to assume that the shipmaker is the same as the watchmaker*
The whole universe that we can observe runs on the same set of physical laws, and all the living things that we have observed follow the same physical laws and share many similarities. So, there is no sane way to claim different makers for such a unified system that is going to end as soon as all the stars run out of fuel and the universe has expanded very far apart with speeds higher than the speed of light.
May peace be upon you
8:38, he begins to describe theism and not paninthism lmao
The LAST MESSAGE (BOOK) sent down to humans, God took it on Himself to preserve it and not get it corrupted!
God talks about "WHAT GOD IS ABOUT AND WHAT HUMAN IS ABOUT" in this BOOK!
Robert, if he REALLY wants to know what God is about, should try to find it in this BOOK, known as Quran!
No other BOOK like this in existence, authored by God Himself!
Krishna explains reality this way in the Bhagavid-gita Chap 9:4-5 " By me ( Krishna ) in my unmanifested form ( his effulgence ) this entire universe is pervaded. All beings are in me, but I am not in them. And yet everything that is created does not rest in me. Behold my mystic opulence! Although I am the maintainer of all living entities and although I am everywhere, I am not a part of this cosmic manifestation, for my self is the very source of creation. In truth reality is a monism but a monism centered around a supreme person to whom everything has a relationship with in a relationship of oneness but difference.
That is why God in Quran has told us that he has sent messages to each people on earth.
Nothing.
Only books from God can describe what's God about. Not the concepts.
God is a philosophical concept with serious flaws in logic. The "omni" God is self refuting. All claims of personal revelation are not only anecdotal, but revelation depends on culture, and experiences verions of God accordingly.
Truth and God
Truth (love) created good (god). And god (good) creates joy, beauty and harmony (heaven).
Ignorance (absence of love) does the exact opposite.
Absence of good (god) transforms heaven (peace) into hell (war) because a vampire called "greed" is ignorant (dead).
Question. Why are the evangelical and jewish counting corpses using the bible as a springboard to perform somersaults to do the exact opposite of "love their neighbors" and "treat others like they want to be treated"?
Answer. This is sick. Because these simple concepts are too far out there to grasp for vampires (greed).
What the F..are this theologians talk about? Do they know god ?
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They're fabricating baseless nonsense.
Why do people insist on there being gods or a God? Nature on its own is the best explanation for all that we know about our observable universe and life. We know how our observable universe began. We know how galaxies and solar systems and our Earth formed and when they formed. We know how life began (within a reasonable margin of error). We know how evolution produced a multitude of different species, including Homo sapiens, humans. We know that "we" are neural activity. So, why are gods or a single God needed to explain reality as we know it? Isn't it a fool's errand to search for something imagined, but not required?
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SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD THROUGH THE THEORY OF EVOLUTION
Human being is made by GOD to be best interlocutor and inspector to his arts exhibited all-around the earth and universe. Those arts inform His infinite skills and hidden treasures of His Names. Divine purpose is to be known and loved by especially those inspectors. So, God equipped man with all kind of implements to detect and explore the secrets of His Beautiful Names which are shinning on the faces of all-beings by science and math as good as feelings and emotions. He made the man a small-scale universe and the best marvelous art among the others for His prestige.
We are not searching a bacterium or aliens made of substance. We determine Him with his properties (limitless knowledge and flawless power and effective will) gleaming on the beings and on their death and blind particles having no mind performing and fallowing their duties, rules and laws perfectly with no mistake. We do not say we believe in God when we cannot find any reason to explain how something happens in nature. We believe in God reveals himself by his actions could be determined by science and math and make things by reasons (such as DNA, genes, organs, systems) having no real effectiveness on God’s issues. God makes all beings by reasons not for helping his flawless power only uses them to introduce himself to attentive minds and hearts. God takes the performance of using reasons as a pray accepted almost every time and create results as hoped. But sometimes doesn’t accept it according to necessity of His Names and doesn’t create the result as expected or may create different results.
Philosophy of science says there is no absolute necessity between reasons and results in nature. Especially we may observe this at the laboratories. Sometimes we apply the same process to cells and get different results.
Reasons and results are correlations coming into being together by creation of flawless power to show the consequences and defining the levels of His Beautiful Names.
Divine purpose is to be known and loved as mentioned before. He created the Grand Huge Universe and all the beings to introduce himself correctly. So, each action in universe and beings should show directly His Names and Properties. He is intensively caring about this fact and has no tolerance for any reason to conceal his intentions. So, He doesn’t give any real absolute power to anything or any being at all. The forces we observe in nature rely on His flawless power in deep reality.
Reasons have no real forcefulness on His activities. They are only just transparent veils on Divine Force operations. Behind those transparent veils Divine Names and Properties should be seen and determined obviously. Reasons like particles, atoms, molecules, DNA, genes etc. which are all blind, deaf and dead and have no mind and impotent are performing vital, detailed, precise duties which are exceeding their capacities and power and point us limitless knowledge and flawless power and effective will and His Names properly.
Since His Names and Properties have no limits and cannot be enclosed, His actions which are the results of Names & Properties are not able to be determined and written down properly without assumptions. So, science and math always use assumptions or axioms which can’t be proved or disproved to discover the secrets of the Universe. If you change your assumptions or axioms, you’ll get different results. For instance, science accepts the universe as real not imagination and accepts all the laws and forces are prevailing throughout the universe. These axioms sound logical. But science also accepts that a natural result and an event in nature could be explained by only a natural reason. This is another assumption which cannot be proved or disproved but why and how? This axiom keeps the God’s issues and His aims out of line. This assumption claims the reality of a film on the screen might be only explained by pixels on the screen. If we would be living creatures on the screen within 2 dimensions, according to this claim, we would never comprehend the reality beyond the screen which have 3 or more dimensions.
So, since science should use assumptions (as religion offers and does) and describes itself as intelligent belief using rational methods. But science is a belief (using assumptions) like religion (as science describes religion) in final analysis.
Philosophy of science tells us we should believe to know. So, since science is rising on belief, scientists explain events by theories (atom theory, electricity theory, theory of gravity, general theory of relativity, special theory of relativity, quantum field theory, evolution theory, etc.) strengthened by reasonable evidences which are interpretations. For the reason God made and designed the universe a grand huge book to be read, Religion encourages us to explore the universe by math and science on the basis of much more reasonable assumptions.
Finally, you may believe in Evolution Theory which is especially hiding Divine Names and Properties as a result of assumption of science tells us events in nature could be only explained by natural reasons or you may consider blind, powerless, deaf, mindless particles, atoms, molecules perform their duties almost at the speed of light with no mistake right now, regardless of our ancestors and their history of millions of years. They obey the instructions coming from the Laws or DNA or etc. and helping Life, our lives in every moment. Our lives on are rising on dead particles in every second without any definition of life even made by science unlike our particles and instructions seem to have a certain definition of life. As the degree of darkness rises brightness of light increases, you may see the Divine Force and Knowledge and Will on the faces of powerlessness and mindlessness and blindness of particles and reasons. A code like DNA having crucial instructions for undescribed life and which is written more complicated than binary system cannot be written and controlled through our trillions of cells in darkness without Real Code Writer and Controller.
@@ismailcihanpeker8119 I appreciate your long description of your beliefs, but with all respect, there is not one iota of evidence that "Human beings were made by God." That is a uninformed religious belief based on ignorance of the facts. Please study biological evolution.
@@georgegrubbs2966 I really appriciated for coming back. I think you have only read the very begining of the answer. I’ve used deductive method and put the claims first then explained them with the arguments. If you could please kindly read the rest of it and you may see the evidences of different perspectives.
Many thanks for your kind attention.
@@ismailcihanpeker8119 I will read it in detail and get back to you with comments.
Deism, which I subscribe to, essentially means God created the universe and let’s events unfold as they will. God is the great observer, if God exists.
Do you have any evidence of that? Theist _or_ deist, do you have *one piece of good evidence* backing up your beliefs? Just *one?*
If not, then what difference does it make? If you have no good reason for believing something, then what difference does it make what it is? (If matters to the rest of us, no doubt. I suppose a deist isn't going to be burning witches alive. I hope not, at least. But most theists don't do that anymore, either.)
@@rubiks6 Hey there... I like your term "snowglobe creator."
@@rubiks6
_The evidence is right in your face. It's life._
Nope. Life is evidence that life exists. It's not evidence of _why,_ and it's not evidence of _how._ It's _certainly_ not evidence of magic!
_Keep in mind that life is more about the information that makes life work than about the physical, chemical processes._
Nope. It's chemicals. At least, there's no evidence otherwise.
_One good piece of evidence?_
Yes. Why is *one* piece of good evidence always too much to ask of theists? It's too much to ask of Christians. It's too much to ask of Muslims. It's too much to ask of _all_ of the faith-based people who overwhelmingly tend to believe in whatever religion and whatever god or gods they were taught to believe as children.
At least _Santa Claus_ had evidence backing him up - not good evidence, of course, but _something,_ at least.
@@rubiks6
_I don't suppose you've heard of the DNA code._
I've heard of DNA. It's a chemical. It's a molecule. It's not a "code." At least, I've never seen any _evidence_ that it's a code.
_The chemistry isn't much different between a turtle and a human._
Not _much_ different, perhaps. Turtles and humans are descended from the same distant ancestor, after all. But turtles and humans are different because our DNA is different. (And we're similar, because our DNA is similar.)
But what does _any_ of that have to do with a god?
_You've been given good evidence._
Heh, heh. You claimed, without evidence, that life was evidence of your god. If I claim that life is evidence of magic leprechauns, will you consider _that_ to be "good evidence" that magic leprechauns exist?
Or are you just in "denial" about magic leprechauns?
@@rubiks6 I like your statement: "...life is more about the information that makes life work than about the physical, chemical processes." Are you referring to information like the codes in a computer and very complex data within biological cells?
Its interesting that we cant just go directly to god and ask ...and thats because god is not the god of the bible or Torah or other doctrines
We have to search for the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Quran is the last message from God.
@@mazen1010 The last message has not arrived yet. By the end of this year, it will be clear.
god is about god😚✌🏻
Thanks be to God
Which one?
@@rieskorin2027 All the same one, just different strands of the whole picture. duh
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Contradictory gods are the same god??
Bullshit
God and a false god are indistinguishable
All thoughts on god are wishful thinking
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SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD THROUGH THE THEORY OF EVOLUTION
Human being is made by GOD to be best interlocutor and inspector to his arts exhibited all-around the earth and universe. Those arts inform His infinite skills and hidden treasures of His Names. Divine purpose is to be known and loved by especially those inspectors. So, God equipped man with all kind of implements to detect and explore the secrets of His Beautiful Names which are shinning on the faces of all-beings by science and math as good as feelings and emotions. He made the man a small-scale universe and the best marvelous art among the others for His prestige.
We are not searching a bacterium or aliens made of substance. We determine Him with his properties (limitless knowledge and flawless power and effective will) gleaming on the beings and on their death and blind particles having no mind performing and fallowing their duties, rules and laws perfectly with no mistake. We do not say we believe in God when we cannot find any reason to explain how something happens in nature. We believe in God reveals himself by his actions could be determined by science and math and make things by reasons (such as DNA, genes, organs, systems) having no real effectiveness on God’s issues. God makes all beings by reasons not for helping his flawless power only uses them to introduce himself to attentive minds and hearts. God takes the performance of using reasons as a pray accepted almost every time and create results as hoped. But sometimes doesn’t accept it according to necessity of His Names and doesn’t create the result as expected or may create different results.
Philosophy of science says there is no absolute necessity between reasons and results in nature. Especially we may observe this at the laboratories. Sometimes we apply the same process to cells and get different results.
Reasons and results are correlations coming into being together by creation of flawless power to show the consequences and defining the levels of His Beautiful Names.
Divine purpose is to be known and loved as mentioned before. He created the Grand Huge Universe and all the beings to introduce himself correctly. So, each action in universe and beings should show directly His Names and Properties. He is intensively caring about this fact and has no tolerance for any reason to conceal his intentions. So, He doesn’t give any real absolute power to anything or any being at all. The forces we observe in nature rely on His flawless power in deep reality.
Reasons have no real forcefulness on His activities. They are only just transparent veils on Divine Force operations. Behind those transparent veils Divine Names and Properties should be seen and determined obviously. Reasons like particles, atoms, molecules, DNA, genes etc. which are all blind, deaf and dead and have no mind and impotent are performing vital, detailed, precise duties which are exceeding their capacities and power and point us limitless knowledge and flawless power and effective will and His Names properly.
Since His Names and Properties have no limits and cannot be enclosed, His actions which are the results of Names & Properties are not able to be determined and written down properly without assumptions. So, science and math always use assumptions or axioms which can’t be proved or disproved to discover the secrets of the Universe. If you change your assumptions or axioms, you’ll get different results. For instance, science accepts the universe as real not imagination and accepts all the laws and forces are prevailing throughout the universe. These axioms sound logical. But science also accepts that a natural result and an event in nature could be explained by only a natural reason. This is another assumption which cannot be proved or disproved but why and how? This axiom keeps the God’s issues and His aims out of line. This assumption claims the reality of a film on the screen might be only explained by pixels on the screen. If we would be living creatures on the screen within 2 dimensions, according to this claim, we would never comprehend the reality beyond the screen which have 3 or more dimensions.
So, since science should use assumptions (as religion offers and does) and describes itself as intelligent belief using rational methods. But science is a belief (using assumptions) like religion (as science describes religion) in final analysis.
Philosophy of science tells us we should believe to know. So, since science is rising on belief, scientists explain events by theories (atom theory, electricity theory, theory of gravity, general theory of relativity, special theory of relativity, quantum field theory, evolution theory, etc.) strengthened by reasonable evidences which are interpretations. For the reason God made and designed the universe a grand huge book to be read, Religion encourages us to explore the universe by math and science on the basis of much more reasonable assumptions.
Finally, you may believe in Evolution Theory which is especially hiding Divine Names and Properties as a result of assumption of science tells us events in nature could be only explained by natural reasons or you may consider blind, powerless, deaf, mindless particles, atoms, molecules perform their duties almost at the speed of light with no mistake right now, regardless of our ancestors and their history of millions of years. They obey the instructions coming from the Laws or DNA or etc. and helping Life, our lives in every moment. Our lives on are rising on dead particles in every second without any definition of life even made by science unlike our particles and instructions seem to have a certain definition of life. As the degree of darkness rises brightness of light increases, you may see the Divine Force and Knowledge and Will on the faces of powerlessness and mindlessness and blindness of particles and reasons. A code like DNA having crucial instructions for undescribed life and which is written more complicated than binary system cannot be written and controlled through our trillions of cells in darkness without Real Code Writer and Controller.
Christian's "God" is so holy and so divine, but Christian's God cannot forgive without human blood and manslaughter.
I rejected this concept of God and this so-called salvation, it does not make any sense at all.
These myths were later added to the Gospels under the influence of the enemies of prophet Jesus.
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¨God ¨ is the measure of our foolishness.
But how can a fool measure God? I can't even measure how much creamer to put in my coffee!
@@johnbrzykcy3076 I recommend atheism and black coffee.
@@kerryburns6041 Hey that's a good one... Good combination? I prefer a convincing theism and "living water."
@@johnbrzykcy3076 H3O2 -- essential for a good cup of coffee.
@@kerryburns6041 Hey there. Actually I was referring to the words of Jesus when I mentioned "living water." But your reply of H302 is interesting. I had never heard of H302 or gel water. Also called living water? Can you actually purchase H302?
On a positive note, I just read that H302 is created by light? Wow... both "living water" and "light" are Biblical concepts. Thanks for sharing about it. Have you ever had H302? John in Florida
Yea Jesus clearly showed and said, paninthism is not the way
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U dont seek God . dont lie . .
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I am astonished to see that Bob ignores the most ancient and fastest growing religion in the world, Islam.
@@tedgrant2 But I was serious.
@@tedgrant2 You will see everything once your eyes are closed, permanently 🙂
You may be interested to know there are over 3000 active religions in the world.
I very much doubt you have checked the growth rate of them all.
Which means you are just guessing.
For all you know, one of those religions may have doubled it's number of followers just today.
Without checking every one every day, you cannot know which is growing the fastest.
@@SharpKnife523
And incidentally, I am also being serious.
Very serious indeed.
God is at war. You are being reborn. We are occupying till the set time comes for Jerusalem. "The first will be last and the last will be first."
Huh?
@@deanwilson8955 it's biblical.
That’s why I didn’t recognize it...I don’t read fiction.
@Stephen B Lol...did dinosaurs ever exist?
@@deanwilson8955 read it for yourself.
Dog is god
Conclusion: Nobody knows.
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I would say RLK deserves a Nobel for exploring these ideas.
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Searching the God very close.
Consider looking to the Bible and science for your answers. The Bible states that God is light (photon) and when you get into the subatomic (quantum) realm you're in the spiritual arena. ELectricity is key.
The temple is your brain, angels are angles of light,. When people leave the body they become angles of light and it is impossible for light to die.
God is about make belief and forcing people to live horrible lives in fear.
God is the needed source for everything in the universe to exist.
Still no closer!
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Its interesting that the "wife" of God is Mary, who is also the "mother" of God !
And the son of Mary and God is our shepherd who is also the lamb of God !
Confused ? They just make it up as they go.
We only need God to solve problems. If God existed, we wouldnt have problems.
That is closer to the truth !
I really don't understand introducing the old concept of God to Nature.
Nature is too chaotic to be dismissed as solely "transcendant", a word closer to personal emotional experience than reason.
What is god? An expression of fear & desire. The fear of death & desire for life after death. Just don't waste your life playing worship games to buy an afterlife which surely doesn't exist.
What bothers me about gods. Is how easy it is for them to lose their power.
Just no longer believe in their power and it's just gone. Like it was never really there in the first place.
That's what I _like_ about gods. :)
@@Bill_Garthright
And they have terrible communication skills.
Like Jesus. A message for the world. But just this small group. Hand it over to a backward society that was mostly illiterate. In a tiny little spot on the entire planet. Where it can split into hundreds of competing interpretations. Yep, it makes absolute sense. 🙄
You said: "And they have terrible communication skills." But we have to remember that language, especially 2,000 years ago, was defined by the culture in which it developed. I do understand your phrase "but just this small group" and I also wonder about that. Regarding the "hundreds of competing interpretations," I don't think they necessarily began in "a tiny little spot". I think most of the various interpretations started when the oral culture turned into a written culture.
Anyhow... on a somewhat related notion, I don't think our communication skills today are much better than back then. And we have computers, all kinds of schools and even TH-cam!
@@lvr8429 I think that day is coming... when all will be revealed, including complete understanding of God's words and His existence. In the meantime, we struggle with "words scratched on paper, papyrus or chiseled in stone." I like "chiseled in stone"; it seems to point to something more permanent.
Anyhow... I agree completely with your statement "it would be a bright shining light encompassing god's truth and love." I trust that day is coming. We won't need languages anymore... not even our senses. That bright shining light will somehow penetrate the soul/heart of creation.
@@lvr8429 Your statements make sense and I think many people feel the same as you do. In fact, I was kind of thinking as you are just earlier today. I wonder though where "Day 1" would indeed start? The book of Genesis? The New Testament gospel of John?
By the way, I like your statement "not a game of Jeopardy down through the Ages." Did you think of that yourself? God is supposed to be the "Rock of Ages', not the Jeopardy through Ages.
I just thought of something. Maybe God's existence and words were clear from Day 1 when He created Adam and Eve. I mean He said everything was "good" and apparently He walked with and talked to Adam and Eve. But suddenly Day 1 became darker and darker as the serpent entered "paradise." To make a long story short, are we "fallen creatures" who will never understand God without some kind of help?
Yet.... why does this "Jeopardy through the Ages" keep spinning? I'm no theologian or scholar. And the spinning make my head spin. Maybe only the guy who hung on the cross knows why the game continues? Can I trust Him to show the answer?
Why is the subject of God and the question of the deity an answerable question . Why is God explainable and able to be reduced to words.
at 3:40
How does Russel know all these things about God??
...Did god speak to him??
...Wish Russel would tell me what God’s voice sounds like!
Quran gives much better expalination
Mazen Ba-abbad
Please summarize.
@@oskarngo9138 Quran explains things the right way. God is the source who created everything from nothing, starting from time, space, matter, energy, subatomic particles, atoms, molecules, all the living and non-living things along with their properties, needs, emotions, thoughts, feelings, imaginations, ...etc.
God created three free willed creatures, angels, Jinn (Satan is one of them) and Adam. Before creating Adam, the angels and the Jinn lived in the heavens without any problems. But when God created Adam and told the angels and Satan that Adam will go down to earth and have continuous offspring there, the first major sin was done by Satan.
But with such struggle of free will, all the three free willed creatures will demonstrate to all the other creatures who is and what is good and who is and what is bad. Then the good free willed creatures will be rewarded by infinite life in paradise while the bad free willed creatures (Jinn and humans) will suffer eternal punishment. While the ones who didn't know anything will not be punished.
Mazen Ba-abbad
Interesting!
1. Why did Satan Sin in the first place?
2. What exactly did Adam do that was so bad that it condemned all his offspring.
Why did Adam Sin?
3. In heaven; whose reality is it?
ie. In heaven; am I a child; an adult or an old person?
What about my parents; grandparents; etc....
4. So why does God prefer all of us (~10 Billion humans) to worship him in Heaven?
@@oskarngo9138 Sin and evilness are the necessary darkness that will give the light all the needed shades, otherwise, no one can see anything if there is just a bright light surrounding them. So, without dishonesty, honesty will have no meaning, and without pain and suffering mercy and kindness will never be understood or appreciated.
1-Satan was created by God before Adam and Eve and he was given the free choice, but he chose to play the role of pure evil and get all the consequences.
2. Adam and Eve were designed to fail the first test of the free will, as without them doing a sin and getting punished, life in paradise didn't mean much to them. As without hunger, no one appreciates the food and without thirst no one appreciates the water. However, as Quran mentions that unlike Satan, Adam and Eve have repented to God and God accepted their repentance.
2.a. The offspring of Adam and Eve were not condemned, they were just given earth to be their birth place, were they must struggle and get tested there. So, when they return to God they will either join Satan (if they followed him) or be sent to paradise to be rewarded for eternity.
3. In heavens people will be adults (in there early 30's), only the good parents and grandparents will be in paradise. Quran mentions that the paradise is as big as heavens and earth. So, one person may be given a galaxy sized kingdom.
4. God doesn't need anything from anyone, it is just a sign of our respect of God to worship him, to be ranked higher than many of God's angels. But otherwise, God doesn't care or need anything from any creature.
May peace be upon you
If you don't know where you come from, you don't really know who you are and you will never be sure of where you going
Word salad. This “god” you are referring to is not a god, its a bunch of space aliens that humans mistook for god.
It is a insult to The Infinite Father's perfect righteousness to accuse Him of creating this evil universe.
What was the need for God to create this universe and other living things What is that he gain by these things
All those talk about god are like the blind men and the elephant. At least there was a real elephant for the blind men.
I won't comment much today with the exception that I rather have Parmenides than Heraclitus...having to explain why such is the case would diminish the target market I am addressing.
Have a lovely evening you all!
@@lvr8429 Glad you brought up L Krauss that will go down in History as an idiot...as for your account of Philosophy being dead good luck believing that young fella...the only thing you and everyone else does since they wake up in the morning and go to bed late at night is philosophy. Scientists without training in Logic do it bad and people have taken notice lately. Also your comment is a bit 2012, the fact of the matter is that in recent years more and more scientist have come to re discover an interest in Philosophy and on what Philosophers have to say.
I let you with one single final remark what would be of good science without its axioms going unchecked...yeah that is Philosophy and all good scientists do it all the time, some are aware they are doing specialized philosophy, some don't. Simple!
@@lvr8429 I am well aware on latest on Philosophy of Science Maths Economy, Game Theory and so on. None of it diminishes great work done way back. In fact, much of what is dismissed by fashion tends to resurge with vengeance later down the line. When I quote the originals I quote them because they did it first not because they did it better. Discounting ancient thought is naive.
The fact that Jesus didn’t write anything down shows it’s a myth
Awesome Robert! Keep up the great work!!!!!!! Please do more videos. 😁
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This man Robert cuhn is a believer deep down...he don't ask questions related to natural evil to these thiest but he unconsciously defend God...this not closer to truth ...it is closer to pretensions
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Searching the God very close.
„God“ is the life itself („I am the life!“), it is the real „living“, that is able to pull itself even out of the nothing and organize and transform itself (i.a. with viruses or science) („Now I want to stand up!“)(that means "from eternity to eternity") and which once will be in full glory and greatness („I am what will be!“), it "will be, what it is", with all the promised capabilities, it's the living, that created us, but for that we are something like „building bricks“, like in Bible explained. So I recommend with Newton: „Be careful with your hasty judgements and conclusions about the future abilities of the mind [or the life]!" ☝️
The bible gives very wrong information about God. As it contains many pagan ideas imposed by the pagan empires at that time
@@mazen1010 If you know God, you understand all holy books of all cultures. Bible not wrong, the understanding of Bible is wrong. Quaran not wrong, the understanding is wrong..etc
@@neffetSnnamremmiZ Humans are free willed creatures, the evil part of their free will make them misapply, misunderstand, abuse, modify and falsify any law, guidance, instructions or even authentic information. So, the original messages from God get corrupted as time goes by.
@@mazen1010 Yes, human have free will, or God couldn't come! And yes, these "messages" are corrupted, in that way the most "Christians" are not real Christians, they totally misunderstand. They don't know that God is "Life" and so they don't understand how God will come, and so they often even stand by force against the coming of God. They don't want that God arrives! Most religious will never enter realm of spirit! ✌️
@@neffetSnnamremmiZ My dear friend, God is infinite and it is very wrong to claim that God will shrink himself to a tiny size on this very tiny dust particle that we call earth. Such wrong idea of God visiting earth is a pagan idea.
My Cat is God.
Where did all the old Gods go, the likes of Osiris, Horus, Amen-Ra and Mithras, where are they now? Are they In some old God retirement Home or is it the cast that once the culture dies their God dies as well, look like the latter, man made nonsense.
God sends prophets to clean up the mess created by the people, but shortly after the evil free will part of humans comes again and re-creates the mess. So, life is a grand musical chairs game that every time needs to be restated.
@Stephen B God doesn't need anything from any creature, if all the free willed creatures acted bad nothing matters to God. Also, God had already designed and plotted everything in the beginning of time, so there is nothing that can surprise God.
@Stephen B There are things that we must get from the messages of God to people of earth (like Quran) and there are things that we must search and realize on our own. The things that we must realize on our own is the existence of God and that he is the needed source for everything to exist and function. As everything we can sense and see is a machine that was designed and remotely operated by God.
Once we realize that, then we search for the last message from God sent to earth, and from there we get all the answers.
Seeing the evidence and accepting them is a process, as every person approaches the truth from a different angle and background. So, there is no one-size fits all approach. But I will be happy to explain and address anything you find to be unacceptable.
May peace be upon you
Control and balance
Wheres wlc?
If there is an infinite number of infinite minds, none of them can be infinite. If there were just two infinite minds that would be enough to be incoherent.
Very enjoyable
But many of the comments are the opposite. They show no respect toward others.
The gods that they’ve made are exactly the gods you'd expect to be made by a species that's about half a chromosome away from being chimpanzee.
The person who is certain, and who claims divine warrant for his certainty, belongs now to the infancy of our species.
The masses have never thirsted after truth. They turn aside from evidence that is not to their taste,preferring to deify error,if error seduce them. Whoever can supply them with illusions is easily their master; whoever attempts to destroy their illusions is always their victim.
Pretending to know things that you do not KNOW is the lifeblood of religion; which is a disease masquerading as a cure
@N RJ which religion? All religions? People have commited every atrocity known to humanity in the name of religion. There have been over 50 thousand different deities. Let us examine religious ideologies and if anything appears unreasonable, contradictory or absurd, let us have the honesty and courage to admit it. Certainly no good can result either from deceiving ourselves or others. Many millions have implicitly believed the BIBLE , and have just as implicitly believed that polygamy was sanctioned by God. Millions have regarded this book as the foundation of all human progress, and at the same time looked upon slavery as a divine institution. Millions have declared this book to have been infinitely holy, and to prove that they were right, have imprisoned, robbed and burned their fellow-men. The inspiration of this book has been established by famine, sword and fire, by dungeon, chain and whip, by dagger and by rack, by force and fear and fraud, and generations have been frightened by threats of hell, and bribed with promises of heaven.
The problem with religion, because it was sheltered from criticism for ages, it allows people to believe en mass what only idiots or lunatics could believe in isolation.
@N RJ you appear to be functionally illiterate. It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his entire world view depends upon his not understanding it.
The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance ; it is the illusion of knowledge. All churches, whether Jewish, Christian or Muslim, are simply human inventions. They use fear to enslave us. They are a monopoly for power and profit.
Is there an intelligent man or woman now in the world who believes in the Garden of Eden story? If you find any man who believes it, strike his forehead and you will hear an echo. Something is for rent.
@N RJ perhaps you should consider joining the CHURCH OF THE SUB-GENIUS. I cannot tell if you are jesting or genuinely an idiot.
@N RJ A stupid man's report of what a clever man says can never be accurate, because he unconsciously translates what he hears into something he can understand..
Searching for the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth will lead you to God. God wants people who do that and doesn't want the people who don't bother themselves doing it.
Always makes you think and re think our beliefs and conceptions. done in a deeply interesting and fascinating way.I can't think of a better complement to any program.
Concept of God? That's where you are going wrong. God is no-thingness/emptiness in which something/anything/everything is possible. It's not a concept but IS-ness. It's pointless using words for God.
God is the infinite source that is needed for the universe to exist.
Could help to start with physical reality and work from there to God. Maybe meet somewhere in middle with theology / philosophy.
We are not here to evolve, we are here to demonstrate the spirit that we are.
A simple analogy:
God is like movie screen. World is like the movie. Movie appears to be real and causal sequence of events but, Without screen, there is no movie.
But screen doesn't create the movie, just relays it.
@@irfanmehmud63 yes that's true God created the laws of nature that doesn't need his intervention
Again it's not a perfect analogy to understand that without God things will fall apart
Magic leprechauns are like a movie screen. Without the screen, there is no movie.
There, do you believe _me?_ Or would you want some evidence that magic leprechauns even _exist_ outside of my imagination?
Obviously, you can make all of the analogies you want. But as long as you don't have even *one piece of good evidence* that your god even _exists,_ why should your analogies matter at all to me?
God is the movie maker and life is the movie, we are just watching.
@@mazen1010
_God is the movie maker and life is the movie_
*Evidence?*
*One piece of good evidence?*
Funny that 555 is one of the hymns that was sung in that church at 1:37
Seeing the number 341 means that you are on the path to spiritual awakening. You become aware of your identity and the environment in which you live. The appearance of this figure shows that you awaken your consciousness and that it is in your interest to continue. (was also sung there)
The meaning of 555 is to stay positive, confident and aware of everything that happens within your inner being. No matter what life throws at you, the most important thing is your state of being. The truth is that your state of being creates your circumstances, and not the other way around.
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Searching the God very close.
Its sad we have to ask humans if god exists....ask god directly
Please give me the correct number/method to contact god directly!
Please give _me_ a reliable way to distinguish reality from delusion and wishful-thinking, so that if I _did_ get a reply, I would know that it was real.
Searching for God and searching the right message from God is part of our duty towards God.
@@lvr8429 God has given people the free will to be good, very good, evil or very evil. Atheism means surrendering to our animal drives and get outside the test. But in this case we will never get away from such ignorance to God.
@@lvr8429 To make things easy to understand, start by looking at all the brains of the people and animals, we see that all the brains are like computers with pre-programmed memories (e.g. sensory system, life support system, motor functions, automatic reflexes,...etc.) and an open access memory, with a central processing unit. Such configuration means that we are already programmed to see what we are allowed to see (e.g. the visible light with pre-selected range of colors, certain range of audio frequencies, smells,...etc.).
So, we are just pre-programmed puppets, who were given the feeling of free-will.
Now, within our reference frame (i.e. the pre-selected needs, thoughts, feelings, imaginations and emotions) we feel that we can freely select. So, let's select the good things and stay away from the bad things.