lets not kid ourselves a good majority of components you buy from all these manufacturers are subcontracted, heck it's mostly a label on these AIO's, most are made by 1 manufacturer.
i like them because they look cool and show my stuff of a little more,also keep my system cooler than old air block,also can get some as cheap as the air blocks and they also"( look cool)"and makes my system pleasing on the eyes and can see some bling for all the pennies i have put into it (which isnt that much compared to loads of you guys)
Actually i prefer a proper air cooler over AIO solutions anyday. My current Cryorig r1 ultimate does better than my Enermax Liqmax II 240 and my corsair h100i(tested with several reseatings just to be sure). Why on earth they insist on shipping these expensive AIOs with horrible fans or loud pumps i dont understand. Im not saying air will beat every single AIO on the market but the money they want for them is just bad value imho. I find they make more sense on GPUs if you must have one.
I just bought my first AIO, my air cooler was just too big (Cryorig H7, not even particularly large for an air cooler). I only had like a half-inch gap in between the heatsink and GPU, making it impossible to reach the PCIe latch and remove the GPU. The backplate of my 1070 is all scratched up from sticking screwdrivers & other objects down there trying to hit the latch, and my NVME drive is directly below that so it's scary if the screwdriver slips. After buying an even bigger GPU (Strix 1080Ti) it just wasn't feasible, I'd have to remove the heatsink to ever reach the latch. So in my case I'd say the AIO was a necessity.
It really just allows you to move the 'heatsink' elsewhere, where you might have more room, and thus could potentially fit a larger 'heatsink' as opposed to air cooling.
I mean yes it uses air. Doesn't mean it's a glorified air cooler. That's like saying a bicycle and a Ferrari are the same because they both use traction to move.
I'm a (no-nonsense) practical computer enthusiast who doesn't actually spend much money. I like my rig sleek and functional, not flashy (define-c case, non-windowed, added case fans for increased airflow -- which is horizontal). AIOs for me would be a complete waste of money; don't need massive overclocking, dislike the complexity of aios vs aircoolers (with all the associated effects), noise-sensitive, weight sensitive. Good video again!
I like how you mention water's heat capacity, which is my favorite aspect of the universal solvent. I had always remembered it as "specific heat". A quick Google search tells me that they are slightly different, though conceptually the same, in that they would both show how water can takes a nice chunk of energy to raise its temperature.
I love my AIO. While large air coolers are nice, they also look like a huge PITA if you haven't ample room, or enough clearance between components. With an AIO, this is less of an issue. Yes, the tubes can be a slight PITA as well, but they are much easier to work with than an air cooler because they are a fair bit more pliable. As far as cost goes, I can understand how this can be a deterrent for some people. I got lucky with my Corsair H100i V2 because I found it used at a local Goodwill for $50. Used a $20% off coupon, and then ordered the AM4 bracket that I needed to make it fit my board. Altogether, it cost me just under $50, and works great.
I had used a Noctua NH-D15 for a couple years in my main rig, but decided to try an AIO so I got a Corsair h115i. I used it for most of last year without real issues, but with my Xmas upgrade I went back to the Noctua. It's quieter and my thermals are too close to make a difference. Also I get a bit more peace of mind with general reliability, no leak potential, projected longevity, etc.
I just picked up my first AIO. Mostly because I was tired of blowing dust out of my CPU fan every 3 weeks. I live by a very busy street and dust is a serious problem for me. I was able to remove most of my fans. Now I am down to blowing things out every 2 months and my system is much more quiet. It was worth the 46 dollars I picked it up for.
AIO myself, I have used Corsair H60s on several overclocked systems, they usually look more tidy then the couple big air coolers that I have used. I now have a h100i on a Ryzen 1600 overclocked to 3.8 and it is very stable and works well, where with the rather large Deep Cool air cooler I had before barely kept the CPU in the safe zone and would not stay stable at 3.8.
I use AIOs for all my desktop computers (4) and air-coolers for my servers (NAS, Plex, VmWare). I like the piece of mind, for my servers, of not introducing liquids to electronics on remote machines required to run 24/7.
I prefer AIO coolers. Most of them have a very long warranty. Easy installation. Very efficient at cooling CPU. Especially small chips. Makes the inside look so good and tidy.
i prefer air coolers because even if they don't look as slick and clean as an AIO the price to performance is way higher(3-4C difference between noctua cooler and 240mm AIO is not worth additional 40$ for me). outside of that the reliability is also better on air since all that can go wrong is the dead fan that is cheap to replace, while when the pump dies you have to buy a new cooler.
After my bad experience with a CPU water cooler that I bought based on one of your vids, I decided to go with air cooling from here on forward. I liked the look of the Deepcool Gamer Storm Captain 120EX (white), but whoever engineered it badly designed the connection where the glass candy-cane shaped tube from the top connects to the plastic elbow to the side of the pump unit. It actually leaked in the box even before installing it. Too much pressure from within the unit, thus it pushed out the glass tube from the side of the pump. Got a full refund back from Newegg, but i like Deepcool so I’ll keep an eye out for other future products from them.
I have a SilverStone SG13, the 120mm AIO was a welcome addition. Undervolted, only the GPU really makes noise in that rig. Blower-style, ya know... Next rig will be full-blown hard line.
I have 2 AIO liquid cooler PC builds, and I prefer to have the rad at the top pushing air out, while the front of the case has a couple of large fans pulling cool air in.
Been using AIO's since 2012. Tested a big beefy Phanteks aircooler when i returned my H100i V2, and i was suprised how good it cooled the 7700k at 4.8ghz. Mainly had Corsair AIO's, but just recently switched to Fractal Designs S36, as i wanted a bigger radiator. Next step is full on custom loop, in my new and shiny Define R6! :D
I used to run with a H100i v2, but after a year or so it began failing (i.e. throttling under load). Since then I've switched to the big boy Noctua NH-D15 and couldn't be happier. Quieter, much better performance, and the only part that can fail is the fans. Also, it looks like a beast.
Just installed my first AIO. I however put it on the top with the fans as an exhaust. My case is a Corsair 680x though and has excellent airflow. I didn't want to mess with that great air intake I had from the front. In hindsight I could have bought a bigger Rad and had it on the front as an intake with 3 fans (rather than 2) but the smaller one was cheaper so I went with that. I've only had it running for around 3 days now, but all seems to be well. The AIO I bought was a Corsair Capillex Elite. I actually changed the fans to LL 120 RGB's though as I had them, so made sense as they're better fans than what comes with the AIO. I think I'll eventually move to a custom loop, but for the moment I'm very happy with my new set up. I bought an 11th gen i5 which was quite a step up from my old 4690, so the AIO made a ton of sense. I'm very glad I went with it now though, as it looks great (especially next to the Vengeance elite RAM sticks) PS: I actually find the sound of the pump to be incredibly soothing.
I have gone with an AIO when I got a Ryzen 7. Coolermaster if I remember (not at home currently). Works well, but kinda wish I had gone with an air cooler, probably would be quieter (what with the pump, water and fan noise - as apposed to just fan noise). I also could only put it on the top of my case, meaning I had to remove some of the sound proofing and more noise can get out. Also because it doesn't cover the whole opening (Design R4) the insides are now getting VERY dusty and I have to clean it out on a much more regular basis than I used to, as I was able to maintain positive pressure and had less openings. I don't regret getting it although I am not sold on them and will probably go air in the future. Not to mention air coolers are starting to look awesome as well.
AIO in the gaming rig. Air cooler in the recording rig. Both are good options. If it's a large case and you don't want to do custom hard tubing, I would say AIO is your next best option. Small form factor rigs, I would say air cooler.
I have no soul, haha. 1° Kelvin. Really? This has to be the best looking aio in m I've ever seen. That water block looks good. Thanks for doing videos for helping us more noobtastic types learn about things like this. Can you do another one showing is what kind of maintenance is required to keep these running. Is this aio available for purchase? I can't find it anywhere for sale.
Arctic Freezer 360 is the best AIO on the market for me, personally. 6 fans for like $130 is incredible value, not many cases have 360mm spacing in the front however. Your rear 120/240 and front 120/240 would become outtakes and your top 360 space would be your main intake
I don't really have a preference, but i think it depends a lot on the case, for example, right now i have a ryzen 5 1600, the stock cooler is fine but if i want to go to 4.0ghz (i know is capable) I'll need an after market cooler, and since my case is an old 1998 ATX case from Olidata with no room for fans my better option is an air cooler
Honestly, I would stick with an AIO or a custom loop I just wished there was a way to incorporate a Deepcool Captain into a custom loop cause that CPU pump block looks so epic, I can only imagine what it would look like with PrimoChill VUE in it :P
The main reason I love my AIO (deepcool) is cause it's quiet. The Aerocool's P7-L240 looks like an interesting AIO, the way you can move the logo to fit where you place the AIO is really wonderful imo.
I don't care about aesthetics, I want reliability and performance. I chose the Noctua NH D15 for my 4.4ghz OC 4930k. I'm happy with how it performs. I like how I don't have to worry about permeation or pump failures, at worst I have to replace a fan.
Massive double tower aircooler is good for me. I bought used thermalright silver arrow ib-e for 30 dollars. Now it's cooling ryzen 5 1600 and could not ask for better.
AIO for me, asthetically, I don't like the bulkyness of a big air cooler. But I recently was wusing a Cryorig H7 as a short stopgap and it did the job fairly well, to a point where I would consider a more premium AIR cooler. Ultimately I think a full custom water loop has the looks and performance to match, but the initial outlay is expensive. Hence why people opt for AIO's, affordable and maintenance free.
I personally don't have the budget at the moment but will defs upgrade to liquid cooling when budget allows, although I may skip AIO & jump straight to custom in my custom "tower".
I have a full air-cooled system, and the cpu heat sink is huge. my rx 7900xtx run at 70 degrees c max while the cpu max at 65 degrees also boosts to 5GHz. Just 4 case fans + 2 CPU fans.
Yesterday i got my first AIO ( MSI MAG Series CORELIQUID 240R, aRGB CPU Liquid Cooler ) - Dual RGB 120mm fans - 7 120mm Case fans inside case. GPU: NVidia GF RTX ROG STRIX 3060 Ti. CPU intel i7 17900 ASUS ROG Motherboard 3 Teribytes 8 cores, lot of RAM/VRAM. 850 watt Corsair power supply. 140mm fan inside the PSU. 0dB fan inside the power supply. 2 side intake fans, 3 front intake, 2 top exhaust. Corsair Commander PRO and Node PRO. ( i also have the Cooler Master MASTERAIR MA41 dual 120mm CPU Cooler aswell but I’m gonna try the MSI MAG water cooler first before i go with the Cooler Master. If the MSI MAG fails or stops working, I’ll just remove the MSI water cooler and then mount the Cooler Master. I know it’s not easy to swap and change and add and remove components but it does depend on what the components parts are too
I didn't know that AeroCool sold AIOs. I have a case from them, an excellent mATX case which have gotten basically no PR, which I don't get, as it's an excellent case, the AeroCool DS Cube. It comes in many colors as well.
I'm the kind of person that's all about function an no form so, for me, a giant air cooler is the better choice because I would be able to use it indefinitely in the future and, even if the fans fail, it's not critical as you said. In fact I'm really happy with my NH-D15 that just works and it's really silent even if it's going at full speed.
I chose the NZXT Kraken X52 not because it's an absolut beauty...but it also looks better in a pc case with tempered glass side. Sometimes decoration requires AIO water coolers in my opinion or the size of the case.
Using aircool now, and not tried water cool yet. I think air/water will be choice in some situation. Like, big case. can mount large heat sink so it work. or small case...sure you go water for low profile cooling system. Now using E3 1231v3 with CM V6GT, which ported from previous CPU, X6 1055T (AMD old model cooler just like a miniture jet engine....)
My current i7 8700K is overclocked to 4.9Ghz and has an air cooled GTX 1080 Ti in the same case (mATX form factor). Originally I tried using a pretty beefy air cooler, but I found the thermals on the CPU were a bit higher than what I was comfortable with despite reasonable airflow in the case. Since switching to a Deepcool EX Captain AIO /w front mounted rad as an intake the thermals have come back into a much more comfortable range even when the system is under load, and barely effected the GPU temperatures at all. With this in mind (and as I enjoy overclocking), I lean heavily to the camp of AIO's.
Noctua NH-D15 For the Win! Inside a case with airflow as insane as my own, you CANNOT get better temps with an AIO! The only "Truly" better way to cool a CPU is a CUSTOM loop with Copper Radiator and coldplate! I am using a Delidded i7-8700k - Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut under the IHS, Kryonaut on top. I am at 5 GHZ on all cores and Cache, the HOTTEST my CPU has ever gotten since delidding was just 84 C while running Prime95 (AVX) small FFT, when my ambient was around 24 C!
I use AIOs mostly for looks and noise mostly. The Corsair H60 with Phanteks high pressure fan (the Corsair fan sucks) keeps my 4GHz R3 1200 below 60 degrees and is practically silent (I run 40-60% fan speed). Plus it looks cool. A huge tower cooler just looks weird to me and takes up too much space.
I haven't really needed another cooler. The one that came with my CPU has been doing a good enough job, I've never heard the fans speed up even while gaming.
Most times i recommend an air cooler 'cause it's cheaper and cools enough (my overclocked Ryzen 7 still runs at ~50°C under full load). But if your dealing with high OC (~> 4.5 - 4.8GHz on an I5/I7) and have the money sure go ahead and buy an AIO or even go for a custom build.
Personally, I prefer watercooling. When I finnaly get around to doing my own personal rig, I plan on doing a full custom loop. Unfortunately, that is currently a while out. When I do a build for my younger brother, sister, and best friend, I plan on air cooling their systems. When it comes to my older brother and his family, I plan on using an AIO, though I would be replacing the fans that come with it, and any fans that come in the case(if any)
my vote is for aio... the looks and the fact that beefy air coolers tend to block quite a few other components/ports like ram, and cpu 4+4 power just to name the usual culprits'
Honestly, I like Air Coolers better - they haven't let me down yet (not in thermals nor looks)! - and I also prefer cases with a meshed front over TG/acrylic :P
Rocking the fillable type of AIO here, too. For how far expandability goes i love the Alphacool based stuff, not pretty but darn relieable and expandable in an easy manner while still keeping the price down.
Interesting AIO. Just make sure you can use it on your particular motherboard. Several of the Asus and a Gigabtye have problems with blocking the first RAM slot.
I've gone off huge air coolers because I got sick of having to squeeze my hand between the huge block of metal/fins and the top of the GPU to release the AGP retention clip. Water blocks, whether AIO or custom loop, make it much easier to swap out a GPU or RAM or whatever. (Although a custom loop obviously makes things difficult in other ways if the GPU is part of the loop.)
I prefer air cooling, I prefer to err on the side of caution. If a fan stops working on an air cooler all I have to do is replace the fan, but if the pump breaks down on an AIO, I would think the entire unit would need to be sent in for repair/replacement.
Thankfully now you can get the EKWB fluid gaming kit for the same price as an AIO, and if the pump breaks on that, then you only have to replace the pump.
I'll take the beefy air cooler over an AIO. The heatsink will never stop working, you just have to dust it out once in a while. And if the fan breaks, you can buy a new fan, you don't have to replace the entire cooler. And you get pretty good performance for the money. AIOs cost a lot more but don't do such a significantly better job at cooling that it's worth the extra money. You also add a lot of new failure points to your cooling solution, many of which only have "buy another expensive AIO to replace your current AIO" as a repair solution. If I wanted to worry about pumps failing, permeation/evaporation, and leaks, I'd go with a custom hardline loop so I can at least get the benefits of it looking nice (AIOs generally look like trash to me because of the soft tubes taking up space in the system), being easy to refill (very few AIOs make that easy), and if the pump fails I can just get a new pump. I don't really have anything against AIOs or the people who use them, they're just not for me.
I previously had an AIO cooler and thought it was the bee’s knees! Then I got tired of having to move my PC all around to get the fluid flowing right after turning off the system and working on it. Plus the TDP wasn’t that great. So I went back to air cooling to maximize my $/TDP and went overkill on TDP by choosing a Be Quiet! Dark Rock cooler. It’s quiet, it’s pretty, it chills like Fonzy in a T-Bird. I’m sure I’ll have this thing until they stop putting CPUs in sockets on motherboards.
Personally im all about performance and reliability with minimal to no maintenance and looks DON'T really matter to me so I prefer top end giant Air Coolers such as Noctua D15, Be Quiet DarkRock Pro 4 (brand new), and CryOrig Ultimate. Price doesnt really matter that much to me that has nothing to do with my Air preference. Also SOME AIO's make more noticeable noise and i always worry about the pump/liquid sound potentially being annoying OR even leaking or dying sooner. If there was an equally expensive Air Cooler to a CLC or custom open loop that provided the same performance/ overclock potential then i'd definitely pay the extra. AFAIK though the Noctua D15 is the best Air cooler around and is pretty close to the best CLC performance wise. The fact that it only costs half the price is just a bonus
Large air coolers just don't fit in some builds. My Cryorig H7 (not even that large) was so close to the GPU it was pretty much impossible to release the PCIe latch.
Yes - Sometimes you have to remove the cooler as a first step to any MB work. Building an ITX with NH-C14S at this time, MB completely covered. Thankfully Noctua is easy to work with - The soon to be released Be Quiet 4 models will be similar.
air coolers are my suggested coolers for funtion, though mind you i use a aio on my graphics card and cpu, graphics cards is for sheer performance due to gpu boost 3.0, and the cpu, well tbh it was 100$ vs 90$ and i never tried a aio. i wanted to try it and it suits my builds aesthetics.
Preferred air cooler .... because it feels much safer (in case a leakage occur). And because budget (the money can go to games or upgrading other PC part ^^;)
I like AIO's better as typically with a high end air cooler, it blocks my ram and an AIO looks cleaner in my opinion. Reliability well, I have the Original H100 thats 8 years old cooling a Phenom II x6 1100T at 4ghz that used pretty much everyday, Its still kicking it, I also have a H50 though not in use right now. Though for the person who doesn't look or clean their PC often, I do recommend an air cooler, just less points of failure.
You opened the topic of where and how to place your Radiator but you yourself are using it upside down, it is (almost) always a better practice to put a radiator where the tubes come from bottom not top, this prevents any air bubble to go to the pump side but to live on top side of the radiator if there are any. Many times this is not an issue but in the case (pun intended) of a serious issue your pump can die because of air bubbles.
The other reason you don't get galvanic corrosion is that the metals don't touch, so the circuit is not closed. Galvanic corrosion is essentially a battery discharging into the fluid
I use both AIO and beefy air coolers in my PCs, but which gets what depends on the use and which PC is "critical" and must work with minimal riscs involved. My main gaming/workstation rig with Core i7 6900K, 32GB DDR4, GTX 1080Ti SLi is the PC just has to work at all times and where possible leaks from a AIO is just unacceptable. So in that machine I use an Phanteks PH-TC14PE dual tower air cooler. My wifes PC with Core i7 5960X, 32GB DDR4, GTX 1080 SLi uses an Arctic Liquid Freezer 120 AIO. And the LAN/HTPC system with Ryzen 7 1700X, 16GB DDR4, GTX 1070Ti uses a Cooler Master Masterliquid Lite 120 AIO.
I really take the look of my system into account, so I choose an AIO any time of the day. Yes, there are good looking aircoolers but I dont like these big chunks of metal right in the midde of the system. If I build a system for my friends, or I should recommend them something then I usually recommend an aircooler.
Personally I've been using a Corsair H100i GTX for a few years now, primarily because I thought these coolers were better at cooling AND produced less noise than air-coolers. After having seen a ton of videos on all sorts of PC related things the last year, I'm pretty sure I'll just go for a good air-cooler next time.
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Your radiator has a unique fin design, someones going to 'borrow' that for sure, my money is on Thermaltake :D
Hardware Unboxed ayyyy just got finished watching one of your videos!
I don't see AdoreTV in the midst of your comment sections. What you mates don't tech duel anymore?
They called Thermaltake because they take everyone else's designs.
lets not kid ourselves a good majority of components you buy from all these manufacturers are subcontracted, heck it's mostly a label on these AIO's, most are made by 1 manufacturer.
mjc0961 no they are called thermalfake
Thanks for Chilling with us!
Nice pun. XD
I like AIO's mainly cause it doesnt hide your mother board. Air coolers get so big sometimes and it is all you see.
Quality Continent it’s big, heavy and bulky. if you have the money there’s no reason to go air on a high-end system.
i like them because they look cool and show my stuff of a little more,also keep my system cooler than old air block,also can get some as cheap as the air blocks and they also"( look cool)"and makes my system pleasing on the eyes and can see some bling for all the pennies i have put into it (which isnt that much compared to loads of you guys)
Actually i prefer a proper air cooler over AIO solutions anyday. My current Cryorig r1 ultimate does better than my Enermax Liqmax II 240 and my corsair h100i(tested with several reseatings just to be sure). Why on earth they insist on shipping these expensive AIOs with horrible fans or loud pumps i dont understand. Im not saying air will beat every single AIO on the market but the money they want for them is just bad value imho. I find they make more sense on GPUs if you must have one.
I prefer the look of a big air cooler to the look of the soft AIO tubing just going wherever the hell it wants in the top half of my computer.
I just bought my first AIO, my air cooler was just too big (Cryorig H7, not even particularly large for an air cooler). I only had like a half-inch gap in between the heatsink and GPU, making it impossible to reach the PCIe latch and remove the GPU. The backplate of my 1070 is all scratched up from sticking screwdrivers & other objects down there trying to hit the latch, and my NVME drive is directly below that so it's scary if the screwdriver slips. After buying an even bigger GPU (Strix 1080Ti) it just wasn't feasible, I'd have to remove the heatsink to ever reach the latch. So in my case I'd say the AIO was a necessity.
if you really simplify the matter, liquid cooling is still air cooling, but with a very fancy heatsink design
It really just allows you to move the 'heatsink' elsewhere, where you might have more room, and thus could potentially fit a larger 'heatsink' as opposed to air cooling.
I mean yes it uses air. Doesn't mean it's a glorified air cooler. That's like saying a bicycle and a Ferrari are the same because they both use traction to move.
Not correct at all byd
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They have exactly the same performance and style of cooling. Water just sounds cool and moves the heat around a little more.
I'm a (no-nonsense) practical computer enthusiast who doesn't actually spend much money. I like my rig sleek and functional, not flashy (define-c case, non-windowed, added case fans for increased airflow -- which is horizontal). AIOs for me would be a complete waste of money; don't need massive overclocking, dislike the complexity of aios vs aircoolers (with all the associated effects), noise-sensitive, weight sensitive.
Good video again!
Expertly explained. I'm almost exhausted from learning such exemplary information.
I have Cooler Master V8 for about 8years now and still doing fine and I had 3 system generation refresh now, reliability is still my preference.
I like how you mention water's heat capacity, which is my favorite aspect of the universal solvent. I had always remembered it as "specific heat". A quick Google search tells me that they are slightly different, though conceptually the same, in that they would both show how water can takes a nice chunk of energy to raise its temperature.
I love my AIO. While large air coolers are nice, they also look like a huge PITA if you haven't ample room, or enough clearance between components. With an AIO, this is less of an issue. Yes, the tubes can be a slight PITA as well, but they are much easier to work with than an air cooler because they are a fair bit more pliable.
As far as cost goes, I can understand how this can be a deterrent for some people. I got lucky with my Corsair H100i V2 because I found it used at a local Goodwill for $50. Used a $20% off coupon, and then ordered the AM4 bracket that I needed to make it fit my board. Altogether, it cost me just under $50, and works great.
I had used a Noctua NH-D15 for a couple years in my main rig, but decided to try an AIO so I got a Corsair h115i. I used it for most of last year without real issues, but with my Xmas upgrade I went back to the Noctua. It's quieter and my thermals are too close to make a difference. Also I get a bit more peace of mind with general reliability, no leak potential, projected longevity, etc.
I just picked up my first AIO. Mostly because I was tired of blowing dust out of my CPU fan every 3 weeks. I live by a very busy street and dust is a serious problem for me. I was able to remove most of my fans. Now I am down to blowing things out every 2 months and my system is much more quiet. It was worth the 46 dollars I picked it up for.
My Noctua air cooler many years already gives me a piece of mind.
AIO myself, I have used Corsair H60s on several overclocked systems, they usually look more tidy then the couple big air coolers that I have used. I now have a h100i on a Ryzen 1600 overclocked to 3.8 and it is very stable and works well, where with the rather large Deep Cool air cooler I had before barely kept the CPU in the safe zone and would not stay stable at 3.8.
I use AIOs for all my desktop computers (4) and air-coolers for my servers (NAS, Plex, VmWare). I like the piece of mind, for my servers, of not introducing liquids to electronics on remote machines required to run 24/7.
I prefer AIO coolers.
Most of them have a very long warranty.
Easy installation.
Very efficient at cooling CPU. Especially small chips.
Makes the inside look so good and tidy.
Noctua u12s with ryzen 5 1600, inaudible and very cool
I'm still in the heat-sink camp, rockin' a Noctua NH-D15 in dual fan configuration, it keeps my 7700k nice n' cool.
i prefer air coolers because even if they don't look as slick and clean as an AIO the price to performance is way higher(3-4C difference between noctua cooler and 240mm AIO is not worth additional 40$ for me). outside of that the reliability is also better on air since all that can go wrong is the dead fan that is cheap to replace, while when the pump dies you have to buy a new cooler.
I recently bought a ML240 from Cooler Master, and man is it a nice jump from air cooling on a budget for my R7 1700.
After my bad experience with a CPU water cooler that I bought based on one of your vids, I decided to go with air cooling from here on forward. I liked the look of the Deepcool Gamer Storm Captain 120EX (white), but whoever engineered it badly designed the connection where the glass candy-cane shaped tube from the top connects to the plastic elbow to the side of the pump unit. It actually leaked in the box even before installing it. Too much pressure from within the unit, thus it pushed out the glass tube from the side of the pump. Got a full refund back from Newegg, but i like Deepcool so I’ll keep an eye out for other future products from them.
Literally just picked up my new X62 yesterday and I love the aesthetic
do the fans in the aio just cool the cpu or do they also push air into the case like normal fans, sorry im new to this
I have a SilverStone SG13, the 120mm AIO was a welcome addition. Undervolted, only the GPU really makes noise in that rig. Blower-style, ya know... Next rig will be full-blown hard line.
yesh! finally some insight for tech. thank you science studio. you're back on track!
I have 2 AIO liquid cooler PC builds, and I prefer to have the rad at the top pushing air out, while the front of the case has a couple of large fans pulling cool air in.
Been using AIO's since 2012. Tested a big beefy Phanteks aircooler when i returned my H100i V2, and i was suprised how good it cooled the 7700k at 4.8ghz.
Mainly had Corsair AIO's, but just recently switched to Fractal Designs S36, as i wanted a bigger radiator.
Next step is full on custom loop, in my new and shiny Define R6! :D
I just bought a 360 aio Thermaltake from massdrop, I'm excited to experience that for myself. Thanks for all your science videos
Depends on the case, budget, situation and customer. But for myself i prefer to use a custom loop due to its aesthetics and long term value.
I used to run with a H100i v2, but after a year or so it began failing (i.e. throttling under load). Since then I've switched to the big boy Noctua NH-D15 and couldn't be happier. Quieter, much better performance, and the only part that can fail is the fans. Also, it looks like a beast.
Just installed my first AIO. I however put it on the top with the fans as an exhaust. My case is a Corsair 680x though and has excellent airflow. I didn't want to mess with that great air intake I had from the front.
In hindsight I could have bought a bigger Rad and had it on the front as an intake with 3 fans (rather than 2) but the smaller one was cheaper so I went with that. I've only had it running for around 3 days now, but all seems to be well.
The AIO I bought was a Corsair Capillex Elite. I actually changed the fans to LL 120 RGB's though as I had them, so made sense as they're better fans than what comes with the AIO.
I think I'll eventually move to a custom loop, but for the moment I'm very happy with my new set up. I bought an 11th gen i5 which was quite a step up from my old 4690, so the AIO made a ton of sense. I'm very glad I went with it now though, as it looks great (especially next to the Vengeance elite RAM sticks)
PS: I actually find the sound of the pump to be incredibly soothing.
Air cooler specifically those be quiet ones. Looks good and reliable.
I personally have an AIO and its working perfectly! (the Deepcool Captain EX White). Keeps my CPU on around 20-30 idle and 30-40 gaming
I have gone with an AIO when I got a Ryzen 7. Coolermaster if I remember (not at home currently). Works well, but kinda wish I had gone with an air cooler, probably would be quieter (what with the pump, water and fan noise - as apposed to just fan noise). I also could only put it on the top of my case, meaning I had to remove some of the sound proofing and more noise can get out. Also because it doesn't cover the whole opening (Design R4) the insides are now getting VERY dusty and I have to clean it out on a much more regular basis than I used to, as I was able to maintain positive pressure and had less openings.
I don't regret getting it although I am not sold on them and will probably go air in the future. Not to mention air coolers are starting to look awesome as well.
AIO in the gaming rig. Air cooler in the recording rig. Both are good options. If it's a large case and you don't want to do custom hard tubing, I would say AIO is your next best option. Small form factor rigs, I would say air cooler.
I'd need one hell of a beefy air cooler for my 8700k and I'm also going for looks. I've never had a problem with any aio and I like them better
Do you have to maintain them ??!!
I have no soul, haha.
1° Kelvin. Really?
This has to be the best looking aio in m I've ever seen. That water block looks good. Thanks for doing videos for helping us more noobtastic types learn about things like this. Can you do another one showing is what kind of maintenance is required to keep these running. Is this aio available for purchase? I can't find it anywhere for sale.
wbkruse13 Right. No degrees with Kelvin 🤐
I bought a cheap corsair aio used and its great. Looks stunning when i painted the bracet and silent with a new accelero pmw fan :)
I use an AIO, a Kelvin S36 specifically. It's a great cooler.
Arctic Freezer 360 is the best AIO on the market for me, personally. 6 fans for like $130 is incredible value, not many cases have 360mm spacing in the front however. Your rear 120/240 and front 120/240 would become outtakes and your top 360 space would be your main intake
I don't really have a preference, but i think it depends a lot on the case, for example, right now i have a ryzen 5 1600, the stock cooler is fine but if i want to go to 4.0ghz (i know is capable) I'll need an after market cooler, and since my case is an old 1998 ATX case from Olidata with no room for fans my better option is an air cooler
i've been just running with a hyper212 evo for a while but nzxt and aero aio have caught my eye the last 6 months or so.
Honestly, I would stick with an AIO or a custom loop I just wished there was a way to incorporate a Deepcool Captain into a custom loop cause that CPU pump block looks so epic, I can only imagine what it would look like with PrimoChill VUE in it :P
The main reason I love my AIO (deepcool) is cause it's quiet. The Aerocool's P7-L240 looks like an interesting AIO, the way you can move the logo to fit where you place the AIO is really wonderful imo.
I don't care about aesthetics, I want reliability and performance. I chose the Noctua NH D15 for my 4.4ghz OC 4930k. I'm happy with how it performs. I like how I don't have to worry about permeation or pump failures, at worst I have to replace a fan.
I will go for a quiet air cooler from Be Quiet, Noctua or Cryorig (although Cryorig not quiet).
Massive double tower aircooler is good for me. I bought used thermalright silver arrow ib-e for 30 dollars. Now it's cooling ryzen 5 1600 and could not ask for better.
AIO for me, asthetically, I don't like the bulkyness of a big air cooler. But I recently was wusing a Cryorig H7 as a short stopgap and it did the job fairly well, to a point where I would consider a more premium AIR cooler. Ultimately I think a full custom water loop has the looks and performance to match, but the initial outlay is expensive. Hence why people opt for AIO's, affordable and maintenance free.
This is Science Studio, thanks for leaking with us!
Finally someone agrees with me that a radiator mounted in the front is better for cooling than mounting it in the top.
custom loop ftw :) never going back to regular cooling now
Aio, simpler to install, looks better (in my opinion) and i love hearing my liquid cooler, its just satisfying
I personally don't have the budget at the moment but will defs upgrade to liquid cooling when budget allows, although I may skip AIO & jump straight to custom in my custom "tower".
I have a full air-cooled system, and the cpu heat sink is huge. my rx 7900xtx run at 70 degrees c max while the cpu max at 65 degrees also boosts to 5GHz. Just 4 case fans + 2 CPU fans.
I love aio, i have the h100i v2 right now but honestly i rather go air. Im going to go be quiet dark rock pro 4 when it comes out. Love how it looks.
Yesterday i got my first AIO ( MSI MAG Series CORELIQUID 240R, aRGB CPU Liquid Cooler ) - Dual RGB 120mm fans - 7 120mm Case fans inside case. GPU: NVidia GF RTX ROG STRIX 3060 Ti. CPU intel i7 17900 ASUS ROG Motherboard 3 Teribytes 8 cores, lot of RAM/VRAM. 850 watt Corsair power supply. 140mm fan inside the PSU. 0dB fan inside the power supply. 2 side intake fans, 3 front intake, 2 top exhaust. Corsair Commander PRO and Node PRO. ( i also have the Cooler Master MASTERAIR MA41 dual 120mm CPU Cooler aswell but I’m gonna try the MSI MAG water cooler first before i go with the Cooler Master. If the MSI MAG fails or stops working, I’ll just remove the MSI water cooler and then mount the Cooler Master. I know it’s not easy to swap and change and add and remove components but it does depend on what the components parts are too
I didn't know that AeroCool sold AIOs. I have a case from them, an excellent mATX case which have gotten basically no PR, which I don't get, as it's an excellent case, the AeroCool DS Cube. It comes in many colors as well.
I'm the kind of person that's all about function an no form so, for me, a giant air cooler is the better choice because I would be able to use it indefinitely in the future and, even if the fans fail, it's not critical as you said. In fact I'm really happy with my NH-D15 that just works and it's really silent even if it's going at full speed.
I chose the NZXT Kraken X52 not because it's an absolut beauty...but it also looks better in a pc case with tempered glass side.
Sometimes decoration requires AIO water coolers in my opinion or the size of the case.
Using aircool now, and not tried water cool yet.
I think air/water will be choice in some situation.
Like, big case. can mount large heat sink so it work.
or small case...sure you go water for low profile cooling system.
Now using E3 1231v3 with CM V6GT, which ported from previous CPU, X6 1055T (AMD old model cooler just like a miniture jet engine....)
My current i7 8700K is overclocked to 4.9Ghz and has an air cooled GTX 1080 Ti in the same case (mATX form factor). Originally I tried using a pretty beefy air cooler, but I found the thermals on the CPU were a bit higher than what I was comfortable with despite reasonable airflow in the case. Since switching to a Deepcool EX Captain AIO /w front mounted rad as an intake the thermals have come back into a much more comfortable range even when the system is under load, and barely effected the GPU temperatures at all. With this in mind (and as I enjoy overclocking), I lean heavily to the camp of AIO's.
Be Quiet! Silent Loop 240mm AIO is a good one! Sucks that it's not readily available here in the US but worth the extra money to get it overseas
Noctua NH-D15 For the Win! Inside a case with airflow as insane as my own, you CANNOT get better temps with an AIO! The only "Truly" better way to cool a CPU is a CUSTOM loop with Copper Radiator and coldplate!
I am using a Delidded i7-8700k - Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut under the IHS, Kryonaut on top. I am at 5 GHZ on all cores and Cache, the HOTTEST my CPU has ever gotten since delidding was just 84 C while running Prime95 (AVX) small FFT, when my ambient was around 24 C!
I use AIO's in my gaming rig for the near silence under load. my server runs 2 hyper 212's because of reliability and durability.
I just purchased an AIO. Perfect info, thanks for all the helpful vids!
I use AIOs mostly for looks and noise mostly. The Corsair H60 with Phanteks high pressure fan (the Corsair fan sucks) keeps my 4GHz R3 1200 below 60 degrees and is practically silent (I run 40-60% fan speed). Plus it looks cool. A huge tower cooler just looks weird to me and takes up too much space.
I use a Corsair h115i v2. I prefer AIO over air coolers as I can set a quiet fan curve and not have to worry about temps.
I prefer watercooling, mainly because I just like the looks and the engineering aspect of it
I haven't really needed another cooler. The one that came with my CPU has been doing a good enough job, I've never heard the fans speed up even while gaming.
Most times i recommend an air cooler 'cause it's cheaper and cools enough (my overclocked Ryzen 7 still runs at ~50°C under full load). But if your dealing with high OC (~> 4.5 - 4.8GHz on an I5/I7) and have the money sure go ahead and buy an AIO or even go for a custom build.
Personally, I prefer watercooling. When I finnaly get around to doing my own personal rig, I plan on doing a full custom loop. Unfortunately, that is currently a while out. When I do a build for my younger brother, sister, and best friend, I plan on air cooling their systems. When it comes to my older brother and his family, I plan on using an AIO, though I would be replacing the fans that come with it, and any fans that come in the case(if any)
my vote is for aio... the looks and the fact that beefy air coolers tend to block quite a few other components/ports like ram, and cpu 4+4 power just to name the usual culprits'
I have an h115i and it looks sick!
I'll never go back to air coolers either. 3 x's cooling on my rig.
3 to 5 year warranty on the AIO. I love it.
Honestly, I like Air Coolers better - they haven't let me down yet (not in thermals nor looks)! - and I also prefer cases with a meshed front over TG/acrylic :P
Love this stuff good for the PC community
Rocking the fillable type of AIO here, too. For how far expandability goes i love the Alphacool based stuff, not pretty but darn relieable and expandable in an easy manner while still keeping the price down.
Air - cheaper, reliable, only moving part is the fan. I have the H5 Ultimate from Cryorig, beefy and sexy.
I would like to get a AIO to try but I am happy to stick with my air cooler for now.
Noctua NH D-14, it's ugly as night but I still love it
Interesting AIO. Just make sure you can use it on your particular motherboard. Several of the Asus and a Gigabtye have problems with blocking the first RAM slot.
I've gone off huge air coolers because I got sick of having to squeeze my hand between the huge block of metal/fins and the top of the GPU to release the AGP retention clip. Water blocks, whether AIO or custom loop, make it much easier to swap out a GPU or RAM or whatever. (Although a custom loop obviously makes things difficult in other ways if the GPU is part of the loop.)
I prefer air cooling, I prefer to err on the side of caution. If a fan stops working on an air cooler all I have to do is replace the fan, but if the pump breaks down on an AIO, I would think the entire unit would need to be sent in for repair/replacement.
Thankfully now you can get the EKWB fluid gaming kit for the same price as an AIO, and if the pump breaks on that, then you only have to replace the pump.
I'll take the beefy air cooler over an AIO. The heatsink will never stop working, you just have to dust it out once in a while. And if the fan breaks, you can buy a new fan, you don't have to replace the entire cooler. And you get pretty good performance for the money.
AIOs cost a lot more but don't do such a significantly better job at cooling that it's worth the extra money. You also add a lot of new failure points to your cooling solution, many of which only have "buy another expensive AIO to replace your current AIO" as a repair solution. If I wanted to worry about pumps failing, permeation/evaporation, and leaks, I'd go with a custom hardline loop so I can at least get the benefits of it looking nice (AIOs generally look like trash to me because of the soft tubes taking up space in the system), being easy to refill (very few AIOs make that easy), and if the pump fails I can just get a new pump.
I don't really have anything against AIOs or the people who use them, they're just not for me.
I previously had an AIO cooler and thought it was the bee’s knees! Then I got tired of having to move my PC all around to get the fluid flowing right after turning off the system and working on it. Plus the TDP wasn’t that great.
So I went back to air cooling to maximize my $/TDP and went overkill on TDP by choosing a Be Quiet! Dark Rock cooler. It’s quiet, it’s pretty, it chills like Fonzy in a T-Bird. I’m sure I’ll have this thing until they stop putting CPUs in sockets on motherboards.
This is science studio, we want you to go into thermodynamics
Personally im all about performance and reliability with minimal to no maintenance and looks DON'T really matter to me so I prefer top end giant Air Coolers such as Noctua D15, Be Quiet DarkRock Pro 4 (brand new), and CryOrig Ultimate. Price doesnt really matter that much to me that has nothing to do with my Air preference. Also SOME AIO's make more noticeable noise and i always worry about the pump/liquid sound potentially being annoying OR even leaking or dying sooner. If there was an equally expensive Air Cooler to a CLC or custom open loop that provided the same performance/ overclock potential then i'd definitely pay the extra. AFAIK though the Noctua D15 is the best Air cooler around and is pretty close to the best CLC performance wise. The fact that it only costs half the price is just a bonus
I run my PC 24/365; air cooling gives me peace of mind.
Large air coolers just don't fit in some builds. My Cryorig H7 (not even that large) was so close to the GPU it was pretty much impossible to release the PCIe latch.
Yes - Sometimes you have to remove the cooler as a first step to any MB work.
Building an ITX with NH-C14S at this time, MB completely covered.
Thankfully Noctua is easy to work with - The soon to be released Be Quiet 4 models will be similar.
I have an NH D15 and have never looked back.
air coolers are my suggested coolers for funtion, though mind you i use a aio on my graphics card and cpu, graphics cards is for sheer performance due to gpu boost 3.0, and the cpu, well tbh it was 100$ vs 90$ and i never tried a aio. i wanted to try it and it suits my builds aesthetics.
I prefer AIOs because of ram clearance and overall aesthetics in my opinion. I have owned a Thermalright Macho Direct and a Corsair h115i.
I went from my wraith spire to my eisbaer 120, both using the same thermal compound, and I haven't seen my CPU above 40c yet!
Preferred air cooler .... because it feels much safer (in case a leakage occur).
And because budget (the money can go to games or upgrading other PC part ^^;)
Make a video about the things a pc builder hate or pc building mistakes
I like AIO's better as typically with a high end air cooler, it blocks my ram and an AIO looks cleaner in my opinion. Reliability well, I have the Original H100 thats 8 years old cooling a Phenom II x6 1100T at 4ghz that used pretty much everyday, Its still kicking it, I also have a H50 though not in use right now. Though for the person who doesn't look or clean their PC often, I do recommend an air cooler, just less points of failure.
You opened the topic of where and how to place your Radiator but you yourself are using it upside down, it is (almost) always a better practice to put a radiator where the tubes come from bottom not top, this prevents any air bubble to go to the pump side but to live on top side of the radiator if there are any. Many times this is not an issue but in the case (pun intended) of a serious issue your pump can die because of air bubbles.
The other reason you don't get galvanic corrosion is that the metals don't touch, so the circuit is not closed. Galvanic corrosion is essentially a battery discharging into the fluid
I use both AIO and beefy air coolers in my PCs, but which gets what depends on the use and which PC is "critical" and must work with minimal riscs involved. My main gaming/workstation rig with Core i7 6900K, 32GB DDR4, GTX 1080Ti SLi is the PC just has to work at all times and where possible leaks from a AIO is just unacceptable. So in that machine I use an Phanteks PH-TC14PE dual tower air cooler.
My wifes PC with Core i7 5960X, 32GB DDR4, GTX 1080 SLi uses an Arctic Liquid Freezer 120 AIO. And the LAN/HTPC system with Ryzen 7 1700X, 16GB DDR4, GTX 1070Ti uses a Cooler Master Masterliquid Lite 120 AIO.
I really take the look of my system into account, so I choose an AIO any time of the day. Yes, there are good looking aircoolers but I dont like these big chunks of metal right in the midde of the system. If I build a system for my friends, or I should recommend them something then I usually recommend an aircooler.
Prefer Air cooler myself. Can't wait for that Dark Rock Pro 4!
Personally I've been using a Corsair H100i GTX for a few years now, primarily because I thought these coolers were better at cooling AND produced less noise than air-coolers. After having seen a ton of videos on all sorts of PC related things the last year, I'm pretty sure I'll just go for a good air-cooler next time.
How a CPU creates Hertz ? Great Video !!
Will there be your promised comparison of the Alpha 330 and the Dark Base 700 anytime soon?