It bothers me how Rogan continually pretends that Jones wasn’t a juice cheat. Who hides under a boxing ring for a whole day just to avoid testers if he doesn’t have anything to hide? Seriously!
Jones definitely is on roids. And the reason Rogan defends him is simple. Cuz jones is the face of the ufc according to Dana and Dana will protect that til he dies. 100%
The fact that Joe Rogan automatically goes to Jon jones defense shows 100% that Rogan knows jon is on roids. Cuz jones is the supposed poster child for Dana white and all time goat (Dana likes to think). So they will protect their best fighter. Dana makes Rogan defend him. If it was anybody else Rogan would just tell the whole truth or all the facts. Cuz Rogan is an honest dude except when it comes to Dana's ufc "goat".
Chael is the person who confirmed it for me. He said to Ariel “oh come on Ariel we know our own” he said he had more juice than Tropicana and could still feel Jon jones power pushing him around like a Mack truck 😂
@@TroutMaskReplicaa u do know the two fought each other a first person primary observation chael himself made numbnuts about how he knew for sure firsthand Jon jones was on the juice
Ubereem is the roid goat. That guy is the ultimate steroid responder in terms of what it did. Took him from a middleweight to a heavyweight overpowering Brock Lesnar.
@@thesaintst1851 allegiance XD. you dope head, he's just calling it how its being shown. stating it how its being played out. there's no allegiance among real fans just facts that are being laid before us. jj does not care about you
How quickly Rogan forgets information from past episodes, he had "more plates more dates" on the show dissecting Jon's case, but now it's back to just Picograms 😂
The problem with having the old guys on juice is that it takes away what is/was special about the guys that actually managed to outrun father time naturally. It kind of dilutes what's special about natural genetics.
People who cheat in contact sports or fighting should be charged with felonies fined and banned atleast 2 years. There are people who come from absolutely nothing that strive to do it the right way and they get cheated by basically cowards who can't do it the right way.
People have always cheated in fighting and always will that’s why fighters have doctors and nutritionist as part of their team telling them what to take and when it leaves your body but admit idly some cheat worse than others
Totally agree, I hate the idea that become juiced is ok. Horrible, a pussy juiced could become famous and the honest super athlete could not become....pathetic. But it's even worst with the sport fight because the juiced guy can really destroy your health and he will pretend to be the strong guy whereas is indeed a pussy. My point of view
Bud eveyone does it now because usada is gone now lmao and you have to remember when your having surgery they give you medicine that has steroids in it but it’s not the same as roids like bodybuilders take
Bro fighters NEED STEROIDS, do yall know how many injuries these guys go through in training alone. U can’t put that type of wear and tear on the body without steroids is some type of enhancements. It is what it is. They in a brutal sport it is what it is
Jones has two brothers that are superbowl winners. You really think they aren't telling him which doctor to go to for designer peds that don't show up on the tests Joe? 😂
@@rzlb5 he's not scared he's just not in shape..if the fight gets made he will then put on the performance of his life you watch..he's a bad man this bones mate.you watch he will tenderise aspinal.
@@JamesJohnson-pz6qg yeah, I believe JJ can beat Aspinall too, which make it even more reason why he should not duck him. Watching JJ beat a 42+ veteran legend is just like watching an exhibition match.
Imo if Jones was on juice pre usada he can still be considered the goat because if you look at his opponents in that era most of them where on juice and they drastically dipped in form or got busted as soon as usada come along but Jones continued to be great and he has beat the best of the usada era
Dana been talking to Joe about Jon Jones 😂 greatest ever but if anyone thinks he wasn't on PEDS, starting in an era when everybody was, they are out of their minds
I disagree with u Joe. Older athletes have to know & accept when it’s time to retire. You don’t get to use steroids & testosterone replacement therapy to extend your career. In fair sports, u go in with what nature gave u and the skills you’ve honed. That’s all! Doping destroys sports. It either deters clean athletes from competing against a dirty pool of competitors, or pushes them to doping just to stay competitive against the other competitors that are. Steroids are for pu$$ie$. Don’t let it ruin MMA. They can have their free for all leagues out in Asia but don’t let doping ruin the UFC & PFL/Bellator here. It’s okay to get old. It’s okay to know when your time is up. Keep juice out of sports
I agree that Rampage wasn’t on juice because when Pride shut down, everyone crashed hard but Rampage went on to KO Liddell again and then Silva (who KO’ed him twice). He only started losing to the next generation of fighters who utilized more technical strategies.
it's so funny all these jon jones fan boys completely REJECT the notion that he's on roids. 🤣 🤣 🤣 he is 100000% for sure on steroids. Only time he wasnt on them was the Reyes fight where he should've LOST.
Jon Jones is the last fighter to finish Rampage Jackson in over a decade and remains the only one to ever do it in the UFC. That’s a testament to both Rampage’s toughness and Jones’ exceptional skill. Submitting a legend like Rampage, especially at the peak of his career, is a major feather in Jones’ cap and a defining moment in his legacy.
I think the better fighters have always been on some sort of PED and had the best officials/people around them to get away. Jones, GSP, Couture etc were 💯 on something
Joe already had MorePlatesMoreDates on who told him scientifically there is no way Jones is not juiced. I dont respect it at all because hes got no problem throwing other fighters under the bus that were juiced and tarnish their legacy
Who remembers the ‘grain of sand in a swimming pool’ bullshit from UFC/Dana/Rogan abusing the average person’s lack of scientific knowledge? 😂 the ‘goat’ is a drug cheat, find a new goat my dudes. It ain’t that deep.
None only had great performances against smaller guys and eyepoked all of them either 😂😂 All you new Jones fans are hilarious. Anyone who has been seeing him since the beginning saw all the asterisks around his career.
it's true - you can pop all you'd want, it might help, but that alone is not going to make you the best, you still need the bundles of talent and hard work to back it up!
I think most of them are on something, and it's normalized in the sport but they have to keep facade in front of the public. Even "good guys" that don't seem like they take anything like Khabib, Porier, Volk... Talent is important but how can you become the best competing against someone who's very talented, works hard and on top of that also takes steroids. You must be some kind of superhuman. I just don't believe they're clean, they don't have to stick a syringe in their asses, but they're definitely taking something illegal. They aren't bad people for that, maybe that's just how the sport works.
Rampage must think that baseball doesn’t hurt. Those guys throw those things at an average of 93 miles per hour. Now imagine that on steroids-that could be up to 135 miles per hour. Keep that juice off the fields everywhere.
I say either ban it across the board with strict and severe penalties/punishments or make it’s usage a requirement to play/fight I’m fine with either. However I will say that the latter would be more fun, entertaining and honestly fair because in that situation everybody is gonna give it their all with a boost and if you lose you can’t complain or accuse someone of cheating or having an unfair advantage because you’re just as juiced as they are. Jon Jones is still a 😿 though. Quit ducking Aspinall if you’re really the 🐐😂
The fact that Rogan already decides the side of fence he's on before the conversation tells me all I need to know. Jones is roided and despite USADA, Derek from MPMD and umpteen fighters' anecdotal evidence the dude just continues to deny it.
yeah it's crazy what they can get away with! - I'd recommend watching a 2017 documentary called "Icarus" on Netflix about illegal doping in sports - basically explains how an athlete could pass any test at any time if they're prepared and smart enough!
Yeah it's shocking that Jon Jones who hides under the octagon when the testers come and then recently rages out and attacks them.........shocking that he does peds. Who'd have thought it 😂
Ur in denial. Lmao why did jones almost lose to Reyes then?? And should've lost to him TBH. Everyone knows this. He almost lost cuz he wasnt ON roids for that fight u could tell from the way jon was fighting. He was not on them for that fight. But every other fight oh yeah he def WAS JUICING.
Why is he constantly talking about TST?? Normal men 35-45 dont need it unless their levels have been proven to be low. How about we talk about the fact you need to stick with it or else your estrogen levels SKYROCKET
It bothers me how Rogan continually pretends that Jones wasn’t a juice cheat. Who hides under a boxing ring for a whole day just to avoid testers if he doesn’t have anything to hide? Seriously!
@@lanceuppercut7436 Rogan was probably his dealer lol
Jones definitely is on roids. And the reason Rogan defends him is simple. Cuz jones is the face of the ufc according to Dana and Dana will protect that til he dies. 100%
That’s because Dana White bends over Jon Joes
Rogan wants steroids in sports .. plus his paycheck is probably massive at ufc his friend Dana is the promoter . Dana would sell Jake paul if he could
And aspinall isn’t……..right?
Why does Rogan always run to Jones defense on steroids... The dude clearly took shit
Lol yeah, him and Dana seem to keep forgetting him pissing hot at least twice.
@@BWall-h4d Google says it was 7x I don't give a shit what anyone says things don't pop up 7x if your clean he was just good at hiding it
Because Joe is a company man.
The fact that Joe Rogan automatically goes to Jon jones defense shows 100% that Rogan knows jon is on roids. Cuz jones is the supposed poster child for Dana white and all time goat (Dana likes to think). So they will protect their best fighter. Dana makes Rogan defend him. If it was anybody else Rogan would just tell the whole truth or all the facts. Cuz Rogan is an honest dude except when it comes to Dana's ufc "goat".
a pictogram dont mean nothing. casual.....
Joe is NOT a commentator - he’s a salesman for the UFC.
Stop asking why he’s defending Jon. He always does this.
If thats the case why did he throw other fighters under the bus?
@@tommymacthompson5884 figure it out on your own
Chael is the person who confirmed it for me. He said to Ariel “oh come on Ariel we know our own” he said he had more juice than Tropicana and could still feel Jon jones power pushing him around like a Mack truck 😂
Scientific. Nothing to do with Chael being a middleweight and Jones being a big LHW
@@TroutMaskReplicaa u do know the two fought each other a first person primary observation chael himself made numbnuts about how he knew for sure firsthand Jon jones was on the juice
JJ is the roid goat
Ubereem is the roid goat. That guy is the ultimate steroid responder in terms of what it did. Took him from a middleweight to a heavyweight overpowering Brock Lesnar.
If you can’t do it without steroids then you shouldn’t be doing it.
Rogan shouldn’t glorify and defend cheaters
Don't forget one is sitting right in front of him.
"Everybody is on steroids," Nate Diaz
All that juice and JJ will still duck Aspinall and hold up the division.
He's seen whats happened to Hill and Procházka and said NOPE!
Tom's time will come!
@@JREEnergyoh I see! We know where your allegiance lies don’t we bud? Aspinall fanboy! You have his poster over your bed?
Maybe I do brother!
The fight with Stipe was literally booked back when everyone was saying John was ducking Pavolich 😂
@@thesaintst1851 allegiance XD. you dope head, he's just calling it how its being shown. stating it how its being played out. there's no allegiance among real fans just facts that are being laid before us. jj does not care about you
How quickly Rogan forgets information from past episodes, he had "more plates more dates" on the show dissecting Jon's case, but now it's back to just Picograms 😂
I think that episode was after this one. I know Derek has been on a few times though so I could be wrong
How could we even deny Jon Jones did steroids at this point? Of course he did. He has popped multiple times.
literally . however I do give him a little slack considering most of the guys he beat was juicing too back in the day most famously chael sonnen
GOAT
Joe just said that by the day they do the testing it’s out of their system, then proceed to say “iTs OnLy pIcO gRaMs”
The problem with having the old guys on juice is that it takes away what is/was special about the guys that actually managed to outrun father time naturally. It kind of dilutes what's special about natural genetics.
Vetor comes to mind. My boy had a rejuvenation spell lv 99 bestowed upon him 🤣🤣 came back better than ever. TRT levels through the roof! 😂
People who cheat in contact sports or fighting should be charged with felonies fined and banned atleast 2 years. There are people who come from absolutely nothing that strive to do it the right way and they get cheated by basically cowards who can't do it the right way.
How about get rid of those rules.
People have always cheated in fighting and always will that’s why fighters have doctors and nutritionist as part of their team telling them what to take and when it leaves your body but admit idly some cheat worse than others
Totally agree, I hate the idea that become juiced is ok. Horrible, a pussy juiced could become famous and the honest super athlete could not become....pathetic.
But it's even worst with the sport fight because the juiced guy can really destroy your health and he will pretend to be the strong guy whereas is indeed a pussy.
My point of view
Every body is on steroids. Including Rampage. Stop the cap!
No he wasn't.
Rampage would never lie
Thats why JJones will never be the goat imo. You're super human on that stuff.
Everyone’s on steroids
@@ActivM4 No they ain't
Bud eveyone does it now because usada is gone now lmao and you have to remember when your having surgery they give you medicine that has steroids in it but it’s not the same as roids like bodybuilders take
He’s GOAT
hes like the Evander Holyfield on mma a dirty fighter on juice
Josh Barnett popped. You dont have to look like Arnold to pop.
He was also bloated and red like a sunburnt redneck. You knew he was on, if you knew how pale and normal he looked before.
Rampage got his podcast at Jaxxson podcast channel on TH-cam. With all due respect, they just might be the best 💯
@@samuraininja1846 I had no idea rampage was so chill I actually really like his podcast... He's not what I expected
Bro fighters NEED STEROIDS, do yall know how many injuries these guys go through in training alone. U can’t put that type of wear and tear on the body without steroids is some type of enhancements. It is what it is. They in a brutal sport it is what it is
Jones has two brothers that are superbowl winners. You really think they aren't telling him which doctor to go to for designer peds that don't show up on the tests Joe? 😂
Jones can take all the roids he wants won’t make difference if he fights Aspinall .
Shut up..a tunned in jones smokes aspinal.too well rounded..everyone jumps on bandwagon.
can never say never in MMA!
@@JamesJohnson-pz6qg too well rounded but still too scare to fight the interim belt holder
@@rzlb5 he's not scared he's just not in shape..if the fight gets made he will then put on the performance of his life you watch..he's a bad man this bones mate.you watch he will tenderise aspinal.
@@JamesJohnson-pz6qg yeah, I believe JJ can beat Aspinall too, which make it even more reason why he should not duck him.
Watching JJ beat a 42+ veteran legend is just like watching an exhibition match.
Jon likes all chemicals equally.
Juice and peds and that helluva drug.
@@brucecall1595 you forgot coke lop
@@justnature1900 thats the "helluva "
Watch Dave Chappelles Rick James skit, you'll understand what "helluva drug" is.
Exactly! The "juice" helped Jon "zero in" his fists on Rampage's head. Unfair.
John Jones, the Lance Armstrong of MMA.
Any sport, it should be about genetics, skill and dedication. Not who has the best doctor
damn straight!
And the double standards. Imane Khelif as a woman is clearly a case of natural advantage and Rogan has a huge problem with that.
Imo if Jones was on juice pre usada he can still be considered the goat because if you look at his opponents in that era most of them where on juice and they drastically dipped in form or got busted as soon as usada come along but Jones continued to be great and he has beat the best of the usada era
Dana been talking to Joe about Jon Jones 😂 greatest ever but if anyone thinks he wasn't on PEDS, starting in an era when everybody was, they are out of their minds
I disagree with u Joe. Older athletes have to know & accept when it’s time to retire. You don’t get to use steroids & testosterone replacement therapy to extend your career. In fair sports, u go in with what nature gave u and the skills you’ve honed. That’s all! Doping destroys sports. It either deters clean athletes from competing against a dirty pool of competitors, or pushes them to doping just to stay competitive against the other competitors that are. Steroids are for pu$$ie$. Don’t let it ruin MMA. They can have their free for all leagues out in Asia but don’t let doping ruin the UFC & PFL/Bellator here. It’s okay to get old. It’s okay to know when your time is up. Keep juice out of sports
I agree that Rampage wasn’t on juice because when Pride shut down, everyone crashed hard but Rampage went on to KO Liddell again and then Silva (who KO’ed him twice). He only started losing to the next generation of fighters who utilized more technical strategies.
it's so funny all these jon jones fan boys completely REJECT the notion that he's on roids. 🤣 🤣 🤣 he is 100000% for sure on steroids. Only time he wasnt on them was the Reyes fight where he should've LOST.
Jon Jones is the last fighter to finish Rampage Jackson in over a decade and remains the only one to ever do it in the UFC. That’s a testament to both Rampage’s toughness and Jones’ exceptional skill. Submitting a legend like Rampage, especially at the peak of his career, is a major feather in Jones’ cap and a defining moment in his legacy.
I think the better fighters have always been on some sort of PED and had the best officials/people around them to get away. Jones, GSP, Couture etc were 💯 on something
Joe already had MorePlatesMoreDates on who told him scientifically there is no way Jones is not juiced. I dont respect it at all because hes got no problem throwing other fighters under the bus that were juiced and tarnish their legacy
Jones failed drug tests for tbol and clomid. Hes not natural..lol
Who remembers the ‘grain of sand in a swimming pool’ bullshit from UFC/Dana/Rogan abusing the average person’s lack of scientific knowledge? 😂 the ‘goat’ is a drug cheat, find a new goat my dudes. It ain’t that deep.
Vitor effed up Bispings eye
Dana & Joe overhype Jon every chance they get
Jones:tests positive multiple times
Joe: he is innocent
Love me a bit of Rampage Jackson...truly one of the all time "Natural" beasts.
Many ppl on roids none as great as jones ppl love to hate jones
None only had great performances against smaller guys and eyepoked all of them either 😂😂 All you new Jones fans are hilarious. Anyone who has been seeing him since the beginning saw all the asterisks around his career.
it's true - you can pop all you'd want, it might help, but that alone is not going to make you the best, you still need the bundles of talent and hard work to back it up!
The entire mma roster was juiced for years. After years we all find out all the big names were on TRT.
I think most of them are on something, and it's normalized in the sport but they have to keep facade in front of the public. Even "good guys" that don't seem like they take anything like Khabib, Porier, Volk... Talent is important but how can you become the best competing against someone who's very talented, works hard and on top of that also takes steroids. You must be some kind of superhuman.
I just don't believe they're clean, they don't have to stick a syringe in their asses, but they're definitely taking something illegal. They aren't bad people for that, maybe that's just how the sport works.
Not all the benefits are still there most of them are but not all of them
Rampage, corner men were doing their jobs..Finding a corner to hide in just in case shit got real 😂😂
Lance Armstrong passed 500 drug tests while juiced to the gills
All those dudes are on gear yet they talk shit about other athletes which are enhanced. Total disgrace.
They forgot one special name. GSP!!! That mf looked like he was the drug 😂
If its on his system and he doesnt has an excuse as to why...he cheated. Easy
Bandpass filters ruined the audio.
u an electrical eng student?
Of course he is he has brothers in the league so its probably nothing to him
The amount of GEAR Lesnar as been on for 25 years straight...
Jack Hanma syndrome is real at least in UFC
Rampage must think that baseball doesn’t hurt. Those guys throw those things at an average of 93 miles per hour. Now imagine that on steroids-that could be up to 135 miles per hour. Keep that juice off the fields everywhere.
Ubereem was THAT guy man. Knees were vicious.
Chael had a good run juiced to the 9's too
I have grown too appreciate all natural
I say either ban it across the board with strict and severe penalties/punishments or make it’s usage a requirement to play/fight I’m fine with either. However I will say that the latter would be more fun, entertaining and honestly fair because in that situation everybody is gonna give it their all with a boost and if you lose you can’t complain or accuse someone of cheating or having an unfair advantage because you’re just as juiced as they are.
Jon Jones is still a 😿 though. Quit ducking Aspinall if you’re really the 🐐😂
I love how people don't understand what a ng is
3:52 Nah! Steroids don’t give you a chin and Alastair is chinny.
The fact that Rogan already decides the side of fence he's on before the conversation tells me all I need to know.
Jones is roided and despite USADA, Derek from MPMD and umpteen fighters' anecdotal evidence the dude just continues to deny it.
That’s the company you work for Joe.
If TJ has an asterisk to his name, Jon Jones should have 6
I mean dude was doing blow.. he didn’t need to juice lmao do you not know what kind of confidence this brings ?! What ?!
Ramage still p*ssed about losing that fight
No Jon tested clean against Cyril Gane.
He had a science nerd spelling out why Jones was on PEDs, yet he defends Jones every chance he can. Sell out
" He fought like he had rabies. " Thats why Joe is always a comedian first.
If you believe steroids makes someone a better fighter.. you’re a puccy at heart.. making excuses for yourself
Pico grams only show up after you did some actual Grams. They just got him on the come off.
I’d be down for the all steroid league. Everyone is jacked as they want to be. Let’s see the full potential of the human body.
Armstrong was on epo
Jon Jones will never be the GOAT.
Brock is absolutely not on juice 🧃! 😂😂😂😂
The audio mixing on this is so bad, basically inaudible
It's not that bad
More like Mr pussyboi😂
I'll see what I can do on the next one - appreciate the feedback either way!
You can literally hear every single word they're saying lol
St. Pierre juiced to the gills.
The guy who helped bring in usada? Show me the evidence 😅
Defo was on some stuff to even the playing field.
@@Daniel18773 who is Defo again?
Definitely
❤@@jamesdep8128
Brock lesnar who rogan was always ass kissing was always on steroids
Just call this channel the “ I love aspinall and hate Jon Jones “ channel.. ridiculous comments from little kids
Wondering where is the channel for Jon Jones idol worshiper
Jones has the same height and reach as Francis Ngannou, yet has spent his whole career at LHW fighting smaller/older men than himself.
UFC salesman JOE ROGAN
3:05
Joe, goes always goes into that same spiel about Jones, Ridiculous.
So UFC is a bunch of smoke & mirrors .. I still not believing Jon was on steroids
yeah it's crazy what they can get away with! - I'd recommend watching a 2017 documentary called "Icarus" on Netflix about illegal doping in sports - basically explains how an athlete could pass any test at any time if they're prepared and smart enough!
@@JREEnergy I'm bout to watch it now 💯
Lmaoooooo
Yeah it's shocking that Jon Jones who hides under the octagon when the testers come and then recently rages out and attacks them.........shocking that he does peds. Who'd have thought it 😂
Ur in denial. Lmao why did jones almost lose to Reyes then?? And should've lost to him TBH. Everyone knows this. He almost lost cuz he wasnt ON roids for that fight u could tell from the way jon was fighting. He was not on them for that fight. But every other fight oh yeah he def WAS JUICING.
Oh, but he has a problem with a woman with a natural advantage. Interesting.
Just about all of you fighters are juiced 😂😂
Jj is a cheater
Gsp goat
Jj is on mt Rushmore
He’s a fake phony, UFC propaganda machine. It’s sad really no integrity.
Why is he constantly talking about TST?? Normal men 35-45 dont need it unless their levels have been proven to be low. How about we talk about the fact you need to stick with it or else your estrogen levels SKYROCKET