SECRET RECORDING of Robert Morris Elder Board Meeting RELEASED

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  • SECRET RECORDING of Robert Morris Elder Board Meeting RELEASED
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  • @christyhenson4672
    @christyhenson4672 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Why did Cindy’s parents not press chargers years ago when they found out about it??

  • @user-bn4zz3gb2h
    @user-bn4zz3gb2h หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Cindy Clameshire had a wound that was not healed. Elders must now restore Cindy. She transferred the shame she was carrying to Robert Morris.

    • @jwm4ever
      @jwm4ever 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Your are Sympathetic to Pedophile Child Rapist Robert Morris.
      He should be in Prison!!!!
      Pedophile Child Rapist Robert Morris Has been LYING Since Day One Of Him Being Exposed, about what HE DID to 12 year old Cindy, telling the LIE that 12 yr old Cindy FORCED HIM TO RAPE HER ‼️‼️
      Cindy Has ZERO SHAME!!
      It's Pedophile Child Rapist Robert Morris who has Shame and he should be in Prison.
      He's Demonic

  • @sherriestone7240
    @sherriestone7240 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Wow the judgement maybe we should be praying for Cindy but also Pastor Robert and his family also ,Pastor Roberts kids had absolutely nothing to do with any of this .Cindys own family didnt call the police or he would be in jail today she said herself that he came to her and her family and ask forgiveness and she gave it and so did her family .If you call yourself a christian instead of sitting back and giving your judgement and your opinions.Let father God deal with it and pray for EVERYONE

    • @WandaDorsey-r3w
      @WandaDorsey-r3w หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      They have to let God do what His Word say , let vengeance be His (God’s). No one know what Robert Morris has done with God since this 25 or more years( you have to ask , “(why now)? But as usual people think they are the judge. God does this better than we do , and I am going to give this to Him and watch what He does. He is the Author and finisher of our faith.

    • @jwm4ever
      @jwm4ever 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You BOTH are Wrong and it's Disgusting that you both would Sympathize with Pedophile Child Rapist Robert Morris in any way, and he Continues to LIE to the world that 12 YR OLD Cindy FORCED HIM TO RAPE HER FOR OVER FOUR YEARS ‼️‼️
      Do you Comprehend This Fact!!
      Robert Morris Should be in Prison.
      Do you understand this?
      Robert Morris is still a Lying Pedophile Child Rapists and he is a very Demonic person.
      So absolutely, Pedophile Robert Morris must be Exposed and Avoided!

    • @rudybo701
      @rudybo701 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I dont see it as judgement I see it as a warning from God through his people that even in the darkness the light can be revealed. In other words Robert Morris thought he had got away with it long ago and God says the vengence is mine so through his people making Robert Morris aware that what he did God will continue to reveal his sickness and denials! God does forgive but the residue from the sin will always be there! Just like God spoke through the ass or how he sent the great fish to Jonah and tomented Jonah in his belly because he was running from Gods will its the same, as the outspoken God spoken through his people that is the modern day Great Fish that will torment those that have strayed away from Gods Will. I hope this was written in a way that was understandable. For But Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven.
      15 And he laid his hands on them, and departed thence.
      16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?
      17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
      18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, So if Jesus can answer with rebuke and we are the child of Christ I feel he gives us the authority to answer in kind to other believers in Christ in order to lead them into the straight and narrow path once again which is Jesus! What profits a man to gain everything if he doesnt gain the way the truth and the light (JESUS) Its easier for a camel to get through the eye of the needle than it is for a rich man to make it into the kingdom of Heaven!

  • @NormaLee-hy5uj
    @NormaLee-hy5uj หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    I think Cindy’s dad should have gone to the authorities when Cindy told him about what RM did and had him arrested and RM would be behind bar today.

    • @davidcruz8057
      @davidcruz8057 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      But he chose to let the church handle it. (1 Corinthians 6:1-2)

    • @MarciaSchroeder-g2k
      @MarciaSchroeder-g2k หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I also have to ask why didn’t her parents step up many years ago? The parents should have dealt with this long ago !
      Cindy should have received help, but also the family waited this long before taking action!

    • @jinna0512
      @jinna0512 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@davidcruz8057 obey laws of the land. Parents should have reported to police

    • @jwm4ever
      @jwm4ever 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yes, her parents should have gone to the police.
      It doesn't change the fact that Robert Morris is a Lying Pedophile Child Rapist who Raped 12 yr old Cindy for 4 years and STILL Lies to the World saying 12 Year Old Cindy FORCED HIM To Rape Her For Over FOUR YEARS.
      He's a Psychopath Pedophile and he should be in Prison

  • @uofa82
    @uofa82 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

    All elders should resign due to their negligence.

    • @DD_LetTheDogsOut
      @DD_LetTheDogsOut หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      All who knew, should.

    • @petefults5984
      @petefults5984 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@DD_LetTheDogsOut I agree but most of these people don't care about stuff like the facts..

    • @DD_LetTheDogsOut
      @DD_LetTheDogsOut หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@petefults5984 Surprising to me.

    • @petefults5984
      @petefults5984 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@DD_LetTheDogsOut I know but I believe Satan has a lot to do with it..he's loving all of the division those comments are causing. But God's will will be done. Our God is an awesome God!

    • @DD_LetTheDogsOut
      @DD_LetTheDogsOut หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @petefults5984 Satan feasts on all evil and negativity. And it will always be this way with him. Unfortunately, at this time in history, we have social media...all "news" and information is broadcast in real time to the masses. God chose to shine the light on the darkness now, so, it is what it is. Hopefully, many will self check because of so much discussion, and get things right with God that aren't going so well.

  • @jannloderhose4816
    @jannloderhose4816 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    He never should have been a pastor in the first place. Where is a video from him admitting,from his own mouth, that he abused a child, for years, and asking for God's forgiveness and the forgiveness of the church? Where is the video from him saying that he stepped down because he realizes he doesn't meet the Biblical qualifications to be a pastor,and he never did - not just because he's a 'distraction'? Once the elders knew the whole truth of this situation, why didn't they fire him? Robert Morris shouldn't have had the option of whether or not he resigned. This still all sounds like a cover up and damage control to me.

    • @debrajohnson3435
      @debrajohnson3435 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Wow is you making this video

  • @sarahharper4916
    @sarahharper4916 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Why didn't they go to the authorities when her parents first found out. My 15 years old daughter was sexually molested. I went straight to the authorities before we took matters into our own hands and ended up in prison ourselves. You are right. This could have been avoided if the parents had gone to the authorities then. There is no excuse for them not reporting this. I am not excusing Robert Morris but neither Cindy's family. Reporting him to the authorities doesn't not go against Scriptures

    • @bluebonnet00
      @bluebonnet00 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The elders of Shady Grove Church had the LEGAL responsibility to report it to the authorities.

    • @sarahharper4916
      @sarahharper4916 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@bluebonnet00 The parents knew before the Elders. It was their daughter. She was 16 when they found out. How many years later did the Elders know. I wonder if those Elders would have kept quiet if it was their daughter. They parents should have gone to the authorities. Did they not believe her

    • @bluebonnet00
      @bluebonnet00 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@sarahharper4916 I agree and wasn’t stating otherwise. I cannot imagine not calling the police upon finding out something like that about my child!

  • @tommylove8704
    @tommylove8704 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Wanted to resign to not be a distraction" I think this is completely LAME!

    • @kerriferguson2023
      @kerriferguson2023 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It is! So lacking in humility.

    • @bluebonnet00
      @bluebonnet00 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Shows he is still lacking accountability.

  • @lindaschultz4086
    @lindaschultz4086 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    RM seems to be narcissistically deluded to think his resignation would make his sin of child molestation fade quiety into this goodnight.

    • @AintNoFool
      @AintNoFool หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes

    • @mrnice111
      @mrnice111 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      He is the Bernie Madoff of the mega church world and his family will fare about as well as Madoff's family did.

    • @user-kl8qh7hl8o
      @user-kl8qh7hl8o หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The Apostle Paul called himself the chief sinner and God wiped away his sin and guilt. Do you think Jesus blood strong enough to take care RM sins? Judge not, lest ye be judged. It says if anyone who is caught in a fault, u who are spiritual restore such a person in the spirit of meekness, watching yourself lest u too be tempted in the same thing. Be careful u are not caught too in sin that may be greater. Stay humble and never frustrate the grace of God.

  • @jennyhartman7890
    @jennyhartman7890 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    It’s really sad to see what Satan has done here. As Christians, we should be praying.❤

    • @petefults5984
      @petefults5984 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@jennyhartman7890 and he's still doing much destruction and division by the comments. I agree, we should be praying..I wish together..maybe someday.

    • @davidparham5177
      @davidparham5177 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Amen. His teaching help me to overcome an addiction in my life

    • @jwm4ever
      @jwm4ever 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@davidparham5177 Robert Morris is a Pedophile Child Rapist and a False Doctrines of Devils preacher who should be in Prison.

    • @jwm4ever
      @jwm4ever 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Satan didn't do anything, it was Pedophile Child Rapist Robert Morris who CHOSE to Rape a 12 Year Old Cindy for over FOUR YEARS, While Preaching in churches and deceiving Cindy's family and friends and his family.
      Pedophile Robert Morris is Still Lying to the world that 12 yr old Cindy FORCED HIM To Rape Her For Over FOUR YEARS!!
      Pedophile Child Rapist Robert Morris is a Demonic person that should be exposed and avoided and be in prison.

  • @michaelmerck7576
    @michaelmerck7576 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

    He should have stepped down on his false teaching but certainly child molesting should be the final straw

    • @WyclifMurungi
      @WyclifMurungi หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Remember it happened years before the church started and there was nothing to step down from in regard to Gateway Church

    • @DD_LetTheDogsOut
      @DD_LetTheDogsOut หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@@WyclifMurungi Remember that church leadership knew what he had done from Cindy's dad way back in 1987, yet he was encouraged to keep going.

    • @kathystevens7532
      @kathystevens7532 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Is he Noah Harari or NBC, or CBS, or any of the other false teachers or prophets?? No, he's not! You may have an "opinion" but stick to the subject, you den of vipers, you Pharisees! His teaching was not false! You're just showing your ignorance! He sinned, and he will pay for it -- just like you will pay for your sins.

    • @WyclifMurungi
      @WyclifMurungi หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@DD_LetTheDogsOut Why not if the sin was dealt with. Repented and thrown in the past? After all he does nothing without Jesus. The work Morris has done with Gateway Church has led to transformation of many life for God's glory and it's Jesus who did everything. We don't credit it to Morris, he is only a vessel. Christians need to remember that no man of God is truly fit to do God's work. They are all just vessels that God uses. If the man has repented and stopped the sin and has taken some time to heal, they should be able to get back up and continue God's call on their life. Who can disqualify one that God has called?

  • @juliavoogd5791
    @juliavoogd5791 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    They needed to go to the Bible and what it says in Timothy about who can be a pastor.

    • @MrRudymancha
      @MrRudymancha หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@juliavoogd5791 finally someone makes sense .

  • @carriemccurley-th8gn
    @carriemccurley-th8gn หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Nearly 70% of child sex offenders have between 1 and 9 victims…at least 20% have 10 to 40 victims. An average serial child molester may have as many as 400 victims in his lifetime. Mr. Morris did not repent. He got caught, lied about it and threatened Cindy of she spoke out.
    What we are seeing with Robert Morris is worldly sorrow, otherwise, Cindy would have had justice long ago and he would be found innocent, though still not qualified to lead a church. "Godly sorrow brings repentance that leads to salvation and leaves no regret, but worldly sorrow brings death. See what this godly sorrow has produced in you: what earnestness, what eagerness to clear yourselves, what indignation, what alarm, what longing, what concern, what readiness to see justice done. At every point you have proved yourselves to be innocent in this matter." 2 Corinthians 7:10-11

    • @jwm4ever
      @jwm4ever 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Pedophile Child Rapist Robert Morris Should be in Prison snd Exposed

  • @NormaLee-hy5uj
    @NormaLee-hy5uj หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Robert Morris was a good speaker and knew the Bible and my family learned a lot from him. I know he did VERY WRONG but I think many people learned from him.
    I can’t understand why Cindy’s dad didn’t turn him into the authorities when he found out about the abuse. Where are her parents now? I would love to hear from her dad.

  • @rachaelwalvatne6221
    @rachaelwalvatne6221 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Thank you for approaching this so delicately. I have strong feelings and beliefs about this situation and I will leave it at that because I can’t be so kind.

  • @jessicagregg804
    @jessicagregg804 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Something occurred to me listening to the voice recording…. If RM “resigned” - what decision exactly was so hard to make?

    • @bluebonnet00
      @bluebonnet00 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I guess accepting his resignation?? Seems blatantly obvious he should not be allowed to remain to me, though.

  • @ftwtexasstephens9629
    @ftwtexasstephens9629 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Why wasn't be fired? Why was he allowed to resign?

    • @JewandGreek
      @JewandGreek หลายเดือนก่อน

      In all likelihood the constitution and bylaws don't allow for the firing of the pastor. In a matter like this the board would simply insist on his resignation.

  • @colleennovak1558
    @colleennovak1558 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    He done made his millions now he can go away with his money from the backs of the people ,or better yet go to jail .

  • @cassandrasmith8593
    @cassandrasmith8593 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    God is also a God of justice. Morris needs to be in prison. Clemishire has done nothing wrong.

    • @MrRudymancha
      @MrRudymancha หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@cassandrasmith8593 that's for God to decide not us.

    • @cassandrasmith8593
      @cassandrasmith8593 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@MrRudymancha It's for society as well. We're a nation of laws.

    • @MrRudymancha
      @MrRudymancha หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@cassandrasmith8593 God is sovereign he may use the laws that govern to do His will . What ever that may be.

    • @cassandrasmith8593
      @cassandrasmith8593 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MrRudymancha Exactly

    • @kerriferguson2023
      @kerriferguson2023 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@cassandrasmith8593 Correct, and we are told to obey the authorities because all are put in place by God.

  • @soniajohnson7615
    @soniajohnson7615 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    This is really not a difficult decision to make, they need to stop playing around and just do what is Right for that Ministry ,its 2 things,a12 year old child, and 4 and 1/2 years of molestations, what is so heard to understand about this,????, why the PR Spin???😳😳😳

    • @cassandrasmith8593
      @cassandrasmith8593 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Can you imagine the fools that are blaming the molested victims for speaking up? That's the shame. Forgiveness does not equal silence.

  • @crickettgriffin9914
    @crickettgriffin9914 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    You can hear the person that is recording making noises of disgust at some of the elders' comments. I agree with her.

  • @alyssabarker5449
    @alyssabarker5449 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    That rich church should compensate Cindy abundantly. As a Christian we ALL fail. But Robert Morris let this go on for years. And I don’t think his son should take over. They need a new start. He should have been fired instead of resigning.

    • @DD_LetTheDogsOut
      @DD_LetTheDogsOut หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Many people let this go on for years

    • @kerriferguson2023
      @kerriferguson2023 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Agree. These "churches" that hand over leadership as if they are coffee franchise are to be treated with disdain. Being a Pastor is calling and not is a title to be handed on like some inheritance.

    • @mrnice111
      @mrnice111 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Totally agree. There's no way his son takes over leadership of whatever is left of Gateway. He'll be as trusted as Bernie Madoff's sons were after their dad's Ponzi scheme became public.

    • @bluebonnet00
      @bluebonnet00 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There are legal reasons to let him resign - such as ineligibility for unemployment benefits. Also, if you weren’t aware, this all happened prior to Gateway Church forming, and the current elders at Gateway claim they did not know a child was involved. I do agree with you, however, that his son should not be the next Pastor. For one, he lacks the experience needed to pastor a congregation of 100,000+ people. Also, I think the church would benefit from a fresh start - which includes a new board of elders given how this whole situation was handled with the GW congregation.

    • @kerriferguson2023
      @kerriferguson2023 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@bluebonnet00 being eligible for unemployment benefits should not override that which is correct procedure though I understand your empathy in the situation. It is a bad message for a church to be giving that they are prepared to put the man's unemployment benefits claim before what is right in decent and normal business practice. As in another case of child sexual abuse which was covered up by the church, the Pastor involved in the cover up did actually have his credentials removed BUT is still to this day preaching that HE resigned and was guilty of no wrong doing. It is a dangerous path, I would suggest to consider "eligibility for unemployment benefits" as a reason to sack this fellow immediately. If the church is all it claims then the members of the congregation will see to his and his family's future well-being and care of him as professing Christians should, but manipulating the situation to obtain a financial benefit.... NO.

  • @tpkorea6c
    @tpkorea6c หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Easy to blame others and elders, but the real culprit is Robert! Focus on him and leave the others alone. Robert's family suffer and his church members. Pray for all, the victim and the culprit. We all know how emotional abuse works - women abused by men don't speak out, and when "celebrities" sin, people cover for them and still stand up for them. Look at South Africa where people support a criminal to be president or start a new party because of his culture and not honesty. Crazy world we live in

    • @Annie261.
      @Annie261. หลายเดือนก่อน

      We don’t have to look to another country to see a criminal president…and I’m not talking about the one wrongly convicted on bogus charges.

  • @edeancozzens3833
    @edeancozzens3833 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    What Robert did decades ago as a young man does not disqualify him today unless he is continuing the behavior.

    • @jinna0512
      @jinna0512 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      He committed a crime… many times over years

    • @basilhendricks788
      @basilhendricks788 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You know nothing about the scripture are you a muslim

  • @rodneylewis4825
    @rodneylewis4825 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    He need be in Prison.

  • @soniajohnson7615
    @soniajohnson7615 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    How many other immoral frailer has this person committed in Secret that the Church does not know about????, he described how he marked the weak ones so he could know how to approach his Prey, it is perhaps deeper than what we are seeing.

    • @WyclifMurungi
      @WyclifMurungi หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@soniajohnson7615 the measure with which you judge may be used with you too. Be careful the things you say, especially when talking about people who God has used to transform millions of lives for his Glory. Of course the sin isn't excusable but remember we all fall short and that doesn't make us forever monsters. God can redeem people.

  • @brucenome989
    @brucenome989 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    None of the Board members. is going to resign. The money's too good at that church.

    • @JewandGreek
      @JewandGreek หลายเดือนก่อน

      Typically church board members aren't compensated. If they are, they're basically just compensated for their time. You're not going to get rich by serving on a church board.

  • @KarenInTx
    @KarenInTx หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The problem is there are several other leaders in the church engaged in inappropriate activity with adults. Adultery is also a sin. Its hard for someone with their hand in the jar to accuse someone else of taking cookies. There is some soul searching to do in the church leaders as a whole. These activities drove leaders to quit this church over the years. We all need to search our hearts.

  • @deannabortner6884
    @deannabortner6884 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Once again you are right - that's an "interesting" choice of words (didn't want to be a distraction ) looks to me like he would have covered it and God has exposed it for the good of His Church- we have lost the fear of God by and large today
    This will help us remember but this is soo sad all around

    • @jwm4ever
      @jwm4ever 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Wow, you are soo Wrong
      Almighty God didn't "COVER " any Sin this Scumbag Lying Pedophile Child Rapist Robert Morris did. He should be in Prison and Exposed to the World.
      He also ALWAYS been a False Doctrines of Devils preacher and anyone who doesn't know this, doesn't know Almighty God's True Words.
      Almighty God's Exposing All Of These Demonic Filled Pedophile Child Rapist preachers and False Doctrines of Devils preachers.

  • @kerriferguson2023
    @kerriferguson2023 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Oh that term "Megachurch"! Tells you all you need to know.

  • @katievictory
    @katievictory หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Every normal person understands WHY it's happened today during election. It's all about politics! It's all about, because RM was close to president Trump. And it's all about, Cindy's hunger for money and unforgiveness. How she even call herself Christian ?
    Every normal true Christian person forgive and support RM. Do you know HOW MUCH GOOD he did in his life and how many people's lives changed in positive way through his preaching 🙌 👏 🙏 ❤️

  • @petefults5984
    @petefults5984 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Cindy stated there was no phone call..amd who transcripts telephone calls anyway???

  • @duniazelaya8135
    @duniazelaya8135 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Shame of the leaders and the team of the Gateway . Robert Morris need to be punished. I feel sorry for the victims of sexual abuse not for the rapist .

    • @bluebonnet00
      @bluebonnet00 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It occurred before Gateway was started as a church. The current elders all state they did not know a child was involved. The blame lies on the elders at the church he attended back in the 1980’s when it occurred, and those that reinstated him only 2 short years later.

  • @user-jn1og5ds4y
    @user-jn1og5ds4y หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Amazing that I found this perfect believer from Set Apart who by the way does not mention his name, and is not only judging but also spreading his wild fire against a man. I imagine he’s never failed and that’s why he is throwing stones. My friend, go read your Bible and guard your heart and your tongue because you’ll give account of every lazy word you’ve said here.

  • @IMOO1896
    @IMOO1896 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Would it have been difficult for Mr Fambro to accept the resignation if he had known the truth? Why was it difficult, Morris should have been fired!

  • @riyahelli
    @riyahelli หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    How about repentance, Robert?

    • @cindycleveland6069
      @cindycleveland6069 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Who are we to question about repentence....that is between .Morris and God.... Morris and his victim.

    • @kerriferguson2023
      @kerriferguson2023 หลายเดือนก่อน

      True and public repentance.

    • @trulyso734
      @trulyso734 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kerriferguson2023 its a weird church anyway . Twisted weird.
      No public anything except more upsetting defences etc. Doubt they even do baptism to declare their dying to self/flesh and being raised back to new life in Christ identities (what a joke of commentators here dubiously stirring up believers and unbelievers alike pretense questions over what repentance and redemption means)

    • @trulyso734
      @trulyso734 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yep

    • @kerriferguson2023
      @kerriferguson2023 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@trulyso734 Agree 100%!

  • @davidcruz8057
    @davidcruz8057 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I ask the question, is there anything in your life, in the past or present, that if made public would disqualify you from ministry? I believe that is why Jesus uttered the famous words “He who is without sin among you, let him throw a stone at her first.” John‬ ‭8‬:‭7‬

  • @carriemccurley-th8gn
    @carriemccurley-th8gn หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The love of money is the root of all kinds of evil. 1 Timothy 6:10 God desires justice, mercy, faithfulness. He wants us to care for one another, especially widows, fatherless, poor and those afflicted or abused. "To do righteousness and justice is more desirable to the LORD than sacrifice." Proverbs 21:3 "In their greed these teachers will exploit you with fabricated stories. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping." 2 Peter 2:3 These mega churches love to tell entertaining stories but may throw in a scripture or two. Leave these churches. "Leave them; they are blind guides. If the blind lead the blind, both will fall into a pit.” Matthew 15:14 “Then I heard another voice calling from heaven, “Come away from her, my people. Do not take part in her sins, or you will be punished with her.” Revelation 18:4

  • @seancurtisministries
    @seancurtisministries 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    As believers we need to be careful not to jump to conclusions just because others are saying that they are guilty of some wrong.

  • @heathercurrier702
    @heathercurrier702 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    ❤️👍thank you ladies !

  • @user-kl8qh7hl8o
    @user-kl8qh7hl8o หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Of course what RM did is horrible as a young male adult in early 20's, we all get that. But Dad and family did not seek legal recourse for some reason, we do not know. They forgave, they knew RM was not a monster and they asked him not to preach. He sought help, and after few years found grace and restoration. Like the woman caught in adultery who deserved to be stoned to death, Jesus did not condemn and said Go and sin no more. RM went and sinned no more, now in mid 20's (men do not completely develop in maturity till mid 20's, much later then women) and for next 37 years had gone and sinned no more. I hardly heard of RM until this came out, but he has been a part of years and decades of untold good since his restoration. Just like David the Adulterer and responsible for murder and Moses the leader who committed murder in his life, God used them. Now, saying all this, I do not cheapen the pain Cindy has experienced in life and want her to be whole in only the way Jesus can make her. But, saying this, how does what now has happened actually really heal her. Revenge is not healing. Her and famy demanding the request he never preach is not theirs to say, yes they could have done more 37 years ago, but they did not. Now when she is 54( and don't let the mental health people justify it is ok 37 years later), that somehow this will heal her? Yes it was wrong, but so is so much of what we all do is wrong. But we cannot say we truly forgave when 37 years later at age 54( I am in my 60's) that now it is good as a Christian to come out now and tell the world. This advice was wrong and the pain it has now caused is way worse then an immature young male doing what he did. I get it, if he was doing this now, he needs prison, but family chose no to go this way and now, in middle of election cycle (which does matter) and his name is connected to a presidential candidate, yes we got to be loud and take everyone down and...RM, the son , the Elders, and anyone who may have known something. Does this heal anyone? Does this help anyone? No, this is what unforgiveness does, and I am sorry but life was unfair to Cindy when teenager, but she has had time to heal and coming out at 54 yrs old, I do not get it, it helps no one!! I know they tried, spoke about it and no one heard, till now. But the judgment they wanted, he shall not preach was not their's to make and what held them in bondage to the past. Yes RM should have done more to help family and Cindy, but all these years later, now coming out only hurts others from their root of bitterness and has defiled so many now innocent collateral people that the honor would have been to forgive RM and let the good he is doing help others. And the statements, she was 12, does not help anything. It was the past, it was confessed to family, no charges filed, and 37 years later talking about it in such media blitz, will not undo the pain or injury, only Jesus can heal and the Christian who demands "consequences " as I hear, remember, Jesus said if u think in hate, u are a murderer, if u think in lust, u are an adulterer, and he that is without sin, throw the first stone, get off your high mindedness, recognize u have sin that deserves hell and punishment, but u found mercy, show some to RM and help heal Cindy and u preachers, shame on u all, u all are just worried about your ministry and donations, u side only with Cindy, and u show no mercy to RM and throw him under the bus, may u find God's grace and show mercy. My thoughts . I am probably the only one who says something to help RM and i have known little of him, i am listening, observing and seeing all the hate and vitrous comments made by Christians in judgement is sad, look inward and reflect and stop saying she was 12, it changes nothing and gives no place after 37 years for grace and restoration. Cindy I get it, u were hurt and wronged, but u are alive and well and have Jesus and eternal life and your sins are forgiven and it hurts to have seen RM succeed, I get it, but at 54 yrs old, now, I am sorry, not the Christian thing to do, I say this as a medical doctor for 30 years, the mental health people gave u and the preacher gave u wrong advice, the milk is spilt, cannot be picked up, but this does not heal, this media publicity has destroyed many lives. This is not healing, this is what a root of bitterness does. Let Jesus help u release RM, u and family and not some "consequences " message thinking it will help u heal. This is a lie. Sorry, but someone has to say it. Come on, u are 54 years old, I am sorry, but why can u not think that maybe God forgave RM , and .maybe God wanted him to be doing what he has done as preacher and helped untold thousands if not millions of people maybe God wanted u and family after all these years to let it go and stop to enact some sort of judgment that "he will not preach crusade" and maybe that was a better way to go, because now look at what we got. Is this better? Do u feel healed now? Yes u are being embraced by every preacher that wants donations and "12" years old is the message and no preacher will say, u got to move on sometime, not it's wrong wrong wrong what RM did and now he must be punished...this was not, in my opinion, Gods way of doing things, otherwise he needed to never hire Moses for preaching and fire King David. The world has horrible injustices that frankly make Cindy,'s look minor the evil done to her, and we as Christians got to be better and quit shooting our own. Stop the "she was a child stuff" to justify your rage and judgemental stance towards RM on something 37 years later and Christian grow up and be a witness of grace.

    • @harrietdwyer6551
      @harrietdwyer6551 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      One of the best replies I’ve heard !!! I feel the same way!!!

    • @TruthinLove33
      @TruthinLove33 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Totally agree with your Christ like statements.

    • @susiek2834
      @susiek2834 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Well of course you don't "get it" you are most likely not a victim of childhood SA especially by someone of his stature and family trust. And WHO are you to proclaim she is lying? He ADMITTED IT!! Also she has tried to go to leadership over the years to no avail. God brought this to the surface. You are what is wrong with the church, judgement begins in the house of the Lord and we are absolutely called to judge the actions and heresy's of those in leadership and they know it. That is why they gaslight and stomp their feet telling their sheeple NOT to judge them. Its diabolical. 1 Corinthians 5:12 It is not my business to judge those who are not part of the group of believers. God will judge them, but you must judge those who are part of your group. The Scriptures say, "Make the evil person leave your group.". AND WHY: 2 Peter 2:1-2 "and AVOID giving the world excuses to slander Christ. He is speaking to BELIEVERS. He was too charismatic and too much money was at stake. And btw how in the world do you know he hasn't sinned ever again, "only God knows the heart of a man and he unfortunately he has SINNED because from the beginning he DECEIVED EVERYONE and has to this day. And he DID that because he did not want to suffer the consequences, period. That along with wrong leadership and money hungry ministers wanted to build their empires and not Gods. Quite understandable but non the less WRONG, ESPECIALLY for someone who says he is called of God, chosen to lead the sheep. And even the elders admit that! Read Matthew 23. The church will heal and learn some wisdom and maybe this garbage will stop.

    • @jwm4ever
      @jwm4ever 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      YOU are Sick in your thinking and Sympathizing with Pedophile Child Rapist Robert Morris for some sick demented reason.
      Pedophile Child Rapist Robert Morris is Still Lying about Everything and saying 12 yr old Cindy FORCED HIM To Rape Her For Over FOUR YEARS while he False Doctrines of Devils preached in churches and deceived everyone.
      Pedophile Robert Morris is a Demonic person who should be Exposed and put in Prison now!
      Doesn't matter how long ago it was that he Raped a Child for 4 years, he should be in Prison now, along with all those in those False Doctrines of Devils churches who knew what was going on.
      Pedophile Robert Morris has ALWAYS been a False Doctrines of Devils preacher and he is leading people to Everlasting Lake Of Fire with his False Doctrines.
      And he's a Lying Snake Pedophile Coward.
      Exposed and Avoid

  • @denisedennis3747
    @denisedennis3747 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I do not believe that there is an anointing of God on this church. A worldly church reaped worldly riches. There is no excuse for this man to have Ever been in a leadership role. The word of God says a pastor/ leader must be without reproach. No matter how popular or successful a Christian person is, you cannot just throw out God's word on this or any matter.
    He abused this child for more than 4 years. That's not repentance, it's covering up sin. I doubt he repented, but even if he did he was forever disqualified to be a pastor.

    • @WyclifMurungi
      @WyclifMurungi หลายเดือนก่อน

      Paul was a great leader of many Churches, yet he murdered or endorsed the murdering of many Christians. Robert sinned and there's no excuse for the sin, but you can't say he was forever disqualified to be a pastor. Who are you? Jesus will qualify whomever He wants? No human is qualified to do God's work because all have sinned. None of us can do God's work unless we are enabled by His grace and mercy.

    • @denisedennis3747
      @denisedennis3747 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @WyclifMurungi Paul did these terrible sins before he was made a new creation. The old man died, and he was born again in the righteousness of Jesus Christ.
      This Morris was supposedly already preaching in Christian churches while being a child rapist. There is no way he should lead anyone in the teachings of Christ. God is his judge

    • @trulyso734
      @trulyso734 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Bingo. They have been well trained in throwing out the bible and instilling this "special anointing" that smells of the devil

    • @trulyso734
      @trulyso734 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@WyclifMurungi who are we? Supposedly men and women who OBEY the Lord and His Word. Stop throwing away or trampling on the bible (Biblical Standards are there for use; no need to play guessing games with a "anointing presence")

    • @trulyso734
      @trulyso734 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@WyclifMurungi the 'young lady' victim was no porn star.
      Have a heart

  • @rodneylewis4825
    @rodneylewis4825 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    They know back in 2005 ask Tom lane

  • @scottnmarj
    @scottnmarj หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    👋 hi .. My thoughts are King David did some awful things and including murder , God used King David , I am going through a lot of emotions as is everyone , I hate what Robert Morris did when he was young , but we cannot just throw Robert away , can we , I hope Cindy and Robert can turn this into good somehow, Repentance and forgiveness have to happen .

    • @MrRudymancha
      @MrRudymancha หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Forgiveness comes with true repentance. He's been covering his sin for a long time. This could be God's mercy on him by bringing this to the light. Nonetheless this totally disqualifies him from leadership. He should be in front of the pulpit not behind it.

    • @iconlex
      @iconlex หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I didn't agree with all his teachings, and of course, from the details that came out in the correspondence he had with Cindy, it was upsetting. Robert was wrong and how he handled this. He should have reached out to Cindy personally as she requested, provided the financial restitution she was due, and begged for her forgiveness. I pray for him, his wife, his marriage, his family, the Gateway members, and most importantly, for Cindy. Praying that somehow out of all this, mercy and grace may be extended, and forgiveness. Not to condone what happened, but to give no place to the enemy. We all have skeletons in our closet in many respects. Ultimately, no one can judge.

    • @elizabethlacky6068
      @elizabethlacky6068 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      King David lost his baby son, and his family was in strife because of his sin.. put it in context.

    • @MrRudymancha
      @MrRudymancha หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@scottnmarj Morris is not king David. That's like saying it ok to those things because can still use you.

    • @scottnmarj
      @scottnmarj หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @MrRudymancha Hi MrRudy 👋 I know Robert Morris is not King David , what I do know is God is the same God now as He was in King David's day , He changes not. God gave King David chance after chance and God said King David was a man after God's own heart.

  • @antonettemichael1493
    @antonettemichael1493 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    💯🔥💯Repentance, forgiveness, grace nor mercy negates consequences. Moral failure is such a “try to be cute and lessen the truth” word for outright SIN.
    Someone in the comments mentioned David and his forgiveness. True, BUT, what did GOD tell David through Nathan the prophet. HE told David he had not respected the LORDS command. That David had done an EVIL thing. That the sword will NEVER leave your house. GOD told David what you did you did secretly. But I will cause this thing to happen in the light of day so that ALL (ALL. ALL. ALL.) Israel can see it.
    Morris is facing his CONSEQUENCES from GOD (IMO) and who is anyone to tell GOD how to conduct HIS business. Morris had numerous opportunities over these many many years to come correct in the name of THE LORD GOD ALMIGHTY but instead he chose the world so …..boom 🎤💯📢💯

    • @kerriferguson2023
      @kerriferguson2023 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      In many places on the Internet deluded people are likening Morris to David! I wonder who is spinning this nonsense and where it emanated from. The two situations have no similarity whatsoever other than that sin was involved in each... as it is with everyone of us. Thank you for a sensible comment concerning this.

    • @AintNoFool
      @AintNoFool หลายเดือนก่อน

      This pedophile should be in prison.

  • @upstepping411
    @upstepping411 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    My understanding is that he was transparent 35 years ago. I was a 12-year-old girl and many of my contemporaries were active sexually, and this was decades ago. In my early 20s I volunteered to be a counselor at non- church retreat for fifth graders, and I remember being shocked at them talking about sexual activity as if it was common place. Wow. Just wow. I wasn’t there when any of this happened that is filling the news. I do know that she went to his room. I do know that in 2005 she was insisting that he personally call her while he was being accountable, and not wanting to speak directly with her, but rather having other people speak with her. She kept insisting that he call her. That seems very controlling and aggressive to me. And no one has mentioned King David. He committed adultery and murder. He didn’t confess until Nathan the prophet called him out, and did so with wisdom . How many people actually read the Bible and understand sin, redemption, and spiritual warfare? This is a perfect storm trap and scheme of the enemy, but my God is bigger than all of it. God will stand. God’s people will stand, and God’s purposes will be accomplished. We win. Just ponder these things.

    • @jwm4ever
      @jwm4ever 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Prison.
      You are Sick in the head and disgusting to sympathize with Pedophile Child Rapist Robert Morris in any way!!
      Pedophile Child Rapist Robert Morris LIES saying 12 yr old Cindy FORCED HIM To Rape Her For Over FOUR YEARS, While He Preached at churches and deceived her family and his.
      &e should be in Prison.
      Robert Morris is a Pedophile Child Rapist and he's Always been a False Doctrines of Devils preacher.

  • @paulathompson9838
    @paulathompson9838 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    His “transparency” from the pulpit about his “infidelity” made me trust and respect him. Now, knowing it was a lie - not infidelity but pedophilic abuse of a child - just makes me sick. He knew people could/would forgive infidelity but abuse of a child would have ruined his ministry and reputation. My hope is built on nothing less than Jesus’ blood and righteousness. I was changed at Gateway. I am the woman I am today because of the many lay people who poured God’s grace and mercy into my life. The people of Gateway are the true ministers and why Gateway is anointed by God.

    • @Annie261.
      @Annie261. หลายเดือนก่อน

      Anointed 🤪 not more than any other church. Get over yourselves.

    • @bluebonnet00
      @bluebonnet00 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Annie261.She didn’t claim that GW was anointed over other churches. She was only stating that the church is the PEOPLE, not a single (former) Pastor. She is trying to stay positive in the midst of a very difficult situation. Let’s instead extend her some grace and show some compassion.

    • @paulathompson9838
      @paulathompson9838 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@bluebonnet00 thank you! You understood what I was saying. I haven’t attended GW for years, but I know many wonderful people who poured God’s love into me during some truly horrible times.

  • @glendam3138
    @glendam3138 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Not be a distraction? What about taking responsibility for what he did, I don’t care how long ago it was. Repent, go away, get help and move on. He shamed the Lord, Cindy, his family and his church.

    • @kerriferguson2023
      @kerriferguson2023 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      And sit in the body of a Bible centered church from here on and put aside the ego that makes him want to be a "leader"!

    • @trulyso734
      @trulyso734 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@kerriferguson2023 based on the recording of what those elders believe, the church is toast spiritually (that both can be in existence.. a hiding of a criminal due to some "anointing" mocking the precious holy spirit of God in that too). Disgusting

    • @kerriferguson2023
      @kerriferguson2023 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@trulyso734 There is no argument with anything you have said. Agree 100% and thank you for stating it.

  • @seancurtisministries
    @seancurtisministries 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Has Brother Morris came out to admit to these allegations? I’m hearing only from others that Brother Morris is guilty of these allegations. If anyone has actually heard Brother Morris copt to any of this could you please leave a reply and the link to this? Thank you.

  • @deidraannemartinebates1602
    @deidraannemartinebates1602 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The father said he'd go to police if he didn't resign.

  • @margwalker6606
    @margwalker6606 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I've seen him but never listened to him. He just looked weird to me, my spirit never took to him at all

  • @rodneylewis4825
    @rodneylewis4825 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Whatever hey cover up . Where Tom lane

  • @alfredharms1030
    @alfredharms1030 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Pastor Rober Morris was open about his moral failures. He doesn't need to give details, and when he said young lady, it was obvious she was a minor. The lady involved was trying to shake him down for money.

  • @MrRudymancha
    @MrRudymancha หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Many will say to me Lord Lord did we not do this things in your name? Depart from me you man if lawlessness I never knew you. Matthew 7:22
    This goes for all of us who profeses Christ. We are to walk out our salvation with fear and trembling. My prayers are for the true saints at gateway church to find a good Bible teaching ,Christ centered body of believers to truly worship and grow. Judgment starts in the house of God (1st Peter 4:17 )this is all God's doing exposing false teachers.

  • @Favourandblessing-24
    @Favourandblessing-24 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why now?

  • @billtotten4162
    @billtotten4162 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Pastor Morris is anointed?

  • @meghnauthheeralall1657
    @meghnauthheeralall1657 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    How Jesus Christ would have handle this situation?

  • @rodneylewis4825
    @rodneylewis4825 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Stop with BS with they know .Tom lane ,jimmy Evans know !

  • @debsad7500
    @debsad7500 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    There’s nothing that this gentleman could do that we should find the least bit noble. “Stepping down to not be a distraction”… please. Just not gonna get caught up in trying to make this less than it is. Like most I believe he is very, genuinely sorry…that he was outed. He won’t be able to not be a “distraction” to his family who have had to go thru this awful, horrific revelation in front of the entire nation. 💔

    • @jwm4ever
      @jwm4ever 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Pedophile Child Rapist Robert Morris is NOT a Gentleman in any way.
      He's a Lying Pedophile Child Rapist.
      Pedophile Robert Morris is Still Lying about Everything HE DID, and Still saying 12 yr old Cindy FORCED HIM To Rape Her For Over FOUR YEARS while preaching and deceiving everyone.
      Pedophile Child Rapist Robert Morris Should Be In Prison
      He is a Coward and Pedophile.
      Disgusting.
      He should be Exposed and Avoided and he should be in Prison Along with all the Evil elders of those false churches that covered it up.

  • @rodneylewis4825
    @rodneylewis4825 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hey bro They fire black guy at Gataway for the same shit . Please stop with BS.

  • @boyddavis4363
    @boyddavis4363 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Jesus said "let him who is without sin cast the first stone ". Judge not lest you be judged. Why wait 40 years to bring it up?

  • @edeancozzens3833
    @edeancozzens3833 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Robert repented and was justified decades ago. Does Jesus now declare him unforgiven?

  • @EBikeMall
    @EBikeMall 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    What he did was wrong but, as much as I despise of his actions, God began to impress upon my spirit that it's time to start praying for him. Right now this channel and many others like it is just looking for viewers to increase their standing with TH-cam. It's time to STOP THIS MADNESS and start acting like God's people. What he did will have it's own consequence's and that's what sin will do. I pray for Cindy to be healed from what happened to her and that the Lord will give her the strength to rise up from this and move forward in her life. You can't go forward in life looking in the rearview mirror, sooner or later you're going to crash. I also pray for Robert that God will truly purge him from this spirit of lust and set him FREE in Jesus name. Let's got off of this Robert treadmill because the only one that's getting a workout in all if this is satan. Let's start lifting up the name of Jesus who is able to Forgive, Heal and Restore.

  • @marciamccormick8376
    @marciamccormick8376 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think his distraction was more for himself than for the church. So that he could collect retirement monies, that were given to him as part of this stepping down.
    Just more deception on his part .

  • @christinecarr787
    @christinecarr787 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ,😊😅

  • @jackiesaunders7693
    @jackiesaunders7693 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Why are u people in the church? God forgives. If He doesn't forgive we are all doomed to hell. Why are u still going to church. Don't u all want God to forgive you. Didn't God die on the cross for our sins. He was the only one who was sinless.

  • @annetteprice9096
    @annetteprice9096 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Yes.... Robert Morris was and is an amazing teacher. There is something much bigger going on behind the scenes .... The body of Christ needs to pray for discernment .... Yes, what was done is wrong - but why did this come out now? First thing I heard on this entire issue was, "Trump's Spiritual Advisor" was immortal with a child ... What does Trump have to do with any of this? Just sayin'!
    Just be warned that this isn't just about Morris.

  • @shurthang-juddshurley9397
    @shurthang-juddshurley9397 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You re doing more for clicks than you are doing for the Kingdom. You should probably check yourself and your motives for these videos.

  • @edeancozzens3833
    @edeancozzens3833 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The victim is obviously bitter which proves she has not after all these years yet forgiven him. She therefore won't be forgiven for her sins. Its a root of bitterness showing she has fallen from grace. Her bitterness is now defiling many. Shame is on her. She is lost in works righteousness. Robert was forgiven by Jesus decades ago. Obviously the elders and staff doesn't believe the gospel either. They too have fallen from grace. Shame on them.

  • @meghnauthheeralall1657
    @meghnauthheeralall1657 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    God use him..because Jesus forgives and forgets but man remember his sins..Jesus will say because I forgive Robert I don’t remember if he sinned with a 12-year kid?

  • @meghnauthheeralall1657
    @meghnauthheeralall1657 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The man was a sinner

  • @kennethreynolds8
    @kennethreynolds8 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Your sins will find you out.

  • @kimbond837
    @kimbond837 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I don't agree with you about the transparency. He did take responsibility, with his wife, Debbie at his side! Decades ago. Why is the church acting like the world? Should we all fear that our sins of the past are going to be revealed and we have to face the consequences of this world!!! I thought the bible taught we are forgiven! I speak as a child of incest, at about the same age that Pastor Robert experienced his abuse. HIS ABUSE...never a word about him being a VICTIM. Pastor Morris is only a few years younger than me. I'm so sorry this has happened to so many of us from the 50's, 60's, and 70's. And the mental abuse, on top of the sexual, is the worst thing to experience, too! Without forgiveness, which Cindy clearly has not gotten, even with all her pastoral counseling, for I don't know how many years! Bul! Sh@#!!! She participated for years by choice! My heart has always broken for the abused, BUT my inner witness tells me this is just a dig for money. I've been connected with Gateway Church for over 10 years. I love Pastor Robert Morris and Debbie Morris for how they have fed the body of Christ faithfully. Unfortunately, my heart is broken for the reaction, or should I say the lack of support the Morris' family has showed to Robert Morris. Wake up, church!!! Look at what the LEFT is doing to the children today! What do you think those consequences are going to bring

    • @Annie261.
      @Annie261. หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You’re nuts

  • @petefults5984
    @petefults5984 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    It wasnt by force! She snuck in to his room for OVER 4 YEARS!!

    • @kleah8598
      @kleah8598 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      More to this story

    • @WriteByLisa
      @WriteByLisa หลายเดือนก่อน

      She.
      Was.
      12.
      TWELVE.
      Stop justifying a pedophile's crimes.

    • @kerriferguson2023
      @kerriferguson2023 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You are disgusting! You do not understand the power involved in child sexual abuse, the grooming and all that is involved with such a crime. Educate yourself please - Anyone in a position in any way exerts tacit force in such a situation.

    • @Annie261.
      @Annie261. หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      A 12 year old, come on!

    • @petefults5984
      @petefults5984 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Annie261. I hope you don't have any daughters..

  • @hotpinkjalapenos
    @hotpinkjalapenos หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    BROKE THROUGH THE MOLD.. wow was she just sapos to be molded into a horrible situation horrific situation.. the way you stated that SHE BROKE THROUGH THE MOLD. Wonder how much more molding in lots of areas been repressed. I heard he was in Greece and on a yacht.. Greece is known for its freedom w Ped O Feel Ya.. nope Good for her recording this . Oh are the elders Police and Judges and other high officials in Southlake or other towns also and to have a second pastor on main staff who has a pe do conviction is beyond ok. The whole root is twisted don't put your fin gurrrsss inside a 12 yr old or any under age or over age by force and be a pastor.. and all the millions made .. wait till other stuff comes up God is spewing Gateway from his mouth..