Melanie Phillips: I First Encountered Anti-Semitism at The Guardian
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- In this clip from her longer "So What You're Saying Is..." interview (full episode here: • Melanie Phillips: The ... ) Melanie Phillips speaks at length about her experience of anti-Semitism from the British left.
Melanie Phillips first encountered anti-semitism at The Guardian when she was told that Israel was judged by a different standard than the other countries in the region. This, she was told, is why Israel was criticised whilst its neighbours escaped such scrutiny.
Despite being a liberal British jew who had never felt any affinity with Israel, the moment Melanie defended Israel in the year 2000 she was attacked for being a right-wing Zionist.
Those she once believed to be liberals started speaking of “you” when speaking to Melanie about Israel, a country she had never even visited.
Asked what she thought about Labour MPs resigning from the Labour Party over Corbyn’s failure to tackle anti-semitism, Melanie retorts: “It’s a bit late.”
In *Legacy*, her recently published novel (which like her memoir, *Guardian Angel*, had to be published in the USA as no UK publisher wanted the views expressed), Melanie wanted to explore contemporary antisemitism in Britain and get inside the head of an antisemite. Her anti-hero is a person of Jewish ancestry who doesn’t want to be a jew in Britain. It’s a story in which he realises that no one can escape their identity - and realises the good things he’s missed by trying to escape it.
Full episode here: • Melanie Phillips: The ...
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The Guardian in a nutshell
Being a liberal doesn't necessarily come with a badge of honour.
It's dishonest !
The term "liberal" has changed its meaning.
@@clivegoodman16 Different people have misused it, but it's heartening she considers herself genuinely liberal, same with Jordan Peterson, etc., so we do have stand-up people reclaiming the term from the regressives.
Melanie is very bright ! God bless her passion. ☮️
What's the bet that the Guardian double speakers were also feminists?
Or "allies".
Let’s be clear. There’s a big difference in different styles of ‘feminism’ and liberal feminism is as frustrating to women as it is to men. I mean, Owen Jones thinks he’s a feminist ffs and he clearly hates plenty of us!
Funny you say that actually...
@@april-tui3524 We know April.
Really, we do.
But until the bad actors are stamped out... or rather, we're ALLOWED to stamp them out, the face of feminism will always be either a bunch or out of touch rich snobs who think their as smart as Einstein, or a fat slob with bright pink/blue/red/purple/whatever hair screaming at the top of her lungs, constantly belting out about the "Patriarchy", which at this point I think they even know what that actually is anymore if at all, and/or marching around with a dick cap on their heads.
Well that and whatever the heck Owen Jones fucking is.
Those wack-a-doos have got to go!
the massacre she mentioned is the 1982 hama massacre there were more killed in less than a month. Than died in the entire Lebanon Israel war that lasted over 20 years.
@Olga Sven why argue? just google the data. It shows the casualty lists and numbers.
Melanie philips. Truthteller very good.
It’s interesting that so many intelligent, thoughtful people like Melanie have made this move from the left to the right over the years. It seems today to be the natural home of independent and original thinking. It’s disturbing to hear she can’t get her books published or reviewed in Britain.
Peter Hitchens also comes to mind.
Marxism by stealth !
They don't call it the Right for nothin' .
Amazing,,, I would never thought that an English newspaper would have an agenda like that. I have been so ignorant.
Double standards at the Labour party's propaganda machine? Whoda thunk it?
What an intelligent woman. So refreshing to hear this conversation.
Agree she is an intelligent articulate and fare minded in everything speaks about apart from facts related to Isreal .
I've listened to her opinions for the last 20 years from the Iraq war and many other events related to the Middle East.
I can only deduce that she is an Posh racist/ islamaphobe and believes in imperial Western foreign policy.
Blacks and browns lives don't matter in their/her eyes .
She is also hypocrite .
First to call out antisemitism but won't speak about the ethnic cleansing and slaughter in Palestine by the ultra right wing Zionists Governments.
"Posh racist" sums it up well .
If you look at the fascists in the last century they all came out of Academia
"Mirror language" - wow, that's an extremely brilliant phrase! So right on spot - BULLSEYE!
Melanie is brilliant and courageous!
And for her age a decent pair of pins on her too.
Until recently I'd held that view about the persecution of Palestinians, I think largely due to the commentary of Noam Chomsky. Now after reading a bit of Charles Krauthammer, Im at least persuaded that there is no other country in the world in a situation like Israel. But the amount of history you would need to be in command of to form your own opinion is too great, so its OK not to have an opinion.
The same is true in many areas - ignorant or semi-informed commenters weighing in with their half-baked opinions. The only people with a genuine right to hold an opinion one way or the other are the true experts, and they are often so thin on the ground as to be effectively non-existent.
As someone who spent a large chunk of my free time for several years educating myself about that history, I believe my opinion is more informed than most. The small handful of people I've encountered who knew more about it than myself were Palestinian; even Israelis don't know that much because Israel makes a concerted effort to whitewash their history, so most Israelis perspective is very one-sided with Israelis as good guys and Palestinians as bad guys. You want to see dehumanising language, see the way some Israelis speak about Palestinians.
I wasn't at odds with what this woman was saying initially, but she lost me about half way through. Pretending that the Palestinian people aren't oppressed, and using air quotes when saying "the West Bank".... this woman is overtly partisan and is either ignorant as to the reality on the ground, or wilfully misrepresenting it. I'm no anti-Semite, but some of the points she hand-waves away as pure racism are legitimate points that cannot be swept under the rug.
Ultimately it all comes back to the creation of Israel. Yes, Israel is hated by its neighbours. Yes, some of that is Islamic anti-Semitism. No, that's not all it is. Israel's foundation required the forced (i.e. at gunpoint) eviction of the indigenous people from their ancestral homeland. Bear in mind this was 1947, not ancient history. The people who settled Israel weren't native to the region. They were European. They took Israel as their homeland because it's where the biblical Israelites lived (note: Israelites =/= Israelis, totally unrelated except by religious belief). The Promised Land. Where else in the world would you see post-WW2 European people forcibly take an entire country by force, justified by overt and explicit religious fervour, ethnically cleanse the native inhabitants, then demand the displaced people accept the theft of their homeland and acknowledge the right of the invaders to exist there as a religious state?
There's plenty of terrible things committed by both sides, and there is an argument to be made for Israel's existence, but to pretend like Israel is an innocent victim besieged by hateful religious extremists from surrounding countries is utterly absurd. The reason people think the Palestinian people are oppressed is very simple: they are oppressed.
She's great.
I’ve never heard any anti-semitism at all. Wonder why?
The old shibboleth, Guardian antisemitism.
What a wise woman!
❤❤❤❤
This guy is weird
I wasn't at odds with what this woman was saying initially, but she lost me about half way through. Pretending that the Palestinian people aren't oppressed, and using air quotes when saying "the West Bank".... this woman is overtly partisan and is either ignorant as to the reality on the ground, or wilfully misrepresenting it. I'm no anti-Semite, but some of the points she hand-waves away as pure racism are legitimate points that cannot be swept under the rug.
Ultimately it all comes back to the creation of Israel. Yes, Israel is hated by its neighbours. Yes, some of that is Islamic anti-Semitism. No, that's not all it is. Israel's foundation required the forced (i.e. at gunpoint) eviction of the indigenous people from their ancestral homeland. Bear in mind this was 1947, not ancient history. The people who settled Israel weren't native to the region. They were European. They took Israel as their homeland because it's where the biblical Israelites lived (note: Israelites =/= Israelis, totally unrelated except by religious belief). The Promised Land. Where else in the world would you see post-WW2 European people forcibly take an entire country by force, justified by overt and explicit religious fervour, ethnically cleanse the native inhabitants, then demand the displaced people accept the theft of their homeland and acknowledge the right of the invaders to exist there as a religious state?
There's plenty of terrible things committed by both sides, and there is an argument to be made for Israel's existence, but to pretend like Israel is an innocent victim besieged by hateful religious extremists from surrounding countries is utterly absurd. The reason people think the Palestinian people are oppressed is very simple: they are oppressed.
Well said 👏
I am appalled by both the holocaust and the Nakba. Does that make me anti Semitic?
SOOOOOOOO sensitive!
Does Ms Phillips do anything other than endlessly plugging her books. Sales not going well?
I'm right wing and anti-Zionist.
A group that includes Hitler and Hamas.
What are your personal pronounns
Is she serious?