WALK Into Half Life: Alyx on KAT Walk C - First Personal VR Treadmill

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  • KAT Walk C is HERE - www.kat-vr.com/products/kat-w...
    KAT Walk C is the world’s first gamer-dedicated, personal VR Omni-Directional Treadmill (ODT) - A new generation mechanical device that allows for 360 degrees of human motion, creating infinite movement area in VR on minimum physical space in reality. Our new device is the most innovative VR walking solution suitable for home use and affordable for individuals - Your personal gate into the virtual dimension!
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  • @piecrumbs9951
    @piecrumbs9951 4 ปีที่แล้ว +117

    Dude, stop shooting at the shotgun guy while his shield is up, it’s driving me crazy.

  • @carltonmakaza5788
    @carltonmakaza5788 4 ปีที่แล้ว +104

    Can’t wait for the future when all this is the standard set.

    • @LucasTheNoodlePot
      @LucasTheNoodlePot 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      That's what kat vr is doing right now maybe not "standard yet" but very close it'll be so cool when everyone has one

    • @dajunnis2449
      @dajunnis2449 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      SVG in the middle ayyy my friend, met in another comment section a few days ago, remember? 😂😂

    • @LucasTheNoodlePot
      @LucasTheNoodlePot 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dajunnis2449 yeah what's up my guy 😂😂

    • @gam3rmom3nt3
      @gam3rmom3nt3 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@LucasTheNoodlePot yeah, it's the vr of vr, not many people who have vr want to invest that nuch money into it but it's still "Affordable"

    • @wanderyonder6466
      @wanderyonder6466 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      New VR treadmill with extra homesickness. Awesome! I'm going to puke every time I fall.

  • @dajunnis2449
    @dajunnis2449 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    That’s exactly how my setup is gonna look :) already got the index, half life: alyx and preordered the Kat walk C.. Can’t wait!

    • @GabrielSantAnaCarrijo
      @GabrielSantAnaCarrijo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Be prepared to wait my dude... kickstarter stuff take A LOT of time to ship

    • @KowitaG
      @KowitaG 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Did you get it yet? What does it cost?

    • @striderwhiston9897
      @striderwhiston9897 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ya got it yet?

    • @netcald991
      @netcald991 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@KowitaG $1400 usd not too bad considering it is new technology

    • @d.b4947
      @d.b4947 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did you get it yet?

  • @williamcleland2369
    @williamcleland2369 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Imagine using this in conjunction with the haptic suit and full body tracking.

    • @rocketassistedgoat1079
      @rocketassistedgoat1079 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Add a Filipino dwarf to fart on your head for wind effects: and you're set!

  • @ROCKSWOT
    @ROCKSWOT 4 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    Gamers are going to be RIPPED😄 This tech will profoundly redesign the way I live my life. Let's goo!

    • @ROCKSWOT
      @ROCKSWOT 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jamescamber2544 lol 😄 When daily walking starts Better buy a sports watch too to track your recovery.
      Actually, I happen to know this stuff.
      Buy cheap combo: Polar H10 belt, and Free Elite HRV app (Bluetooth 5.0) , so you get the level of body battery each morning😄

    • @bestbread3446
      @bestbread3446 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      maybe not ripped but at least we will be moving

    • @stepbro7850
      @stepbro7850 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We arent going to get ripped but we'll definitely lose weight and build up our stamina

  • @Josh-zu8cr
    @Josh-zu8cr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    0:25 can we talk about how much of a waste of ammo that was

  • @FoodStampPhone
    @FoodStampPhone 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Super stoked for mine to arrive!

  • @TotalGAMIX
    @TotalGAMIX 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Can't wait for this to be the norm! 😍

  • @jameshaskins4071
    @jameshaskins4071 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is going to be so much fun when I get mine.

  • @TotalGAMIX
    @TotalGAMIX 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome stuff!

  • @Nicodeeemus
    @Nicodeeemus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Very impressive how natural the movement looks! Definitely was a little skeptical but this looks very convincing!

    • @KATVR
      @KATVR  4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Thank you! Over the past 6 months we've worked very hard to make that happen. We have actually cancelled our own year schedule earlier this year and decided to release the KAT Walk C months after the initial plan. Only after we have managed to make our solution truly innovative! : )

    • @ellabarker5045
      @ellabarker5045 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@KATVR how do i order? It appears i can only contribute to the campaign. Im new to all this so an explanation would be appreciated as despite being new to the scene I'm more than intrigued - ordered the quest yesterday!

  • @goongoon9299
    @goongoon9299 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Its amazing how gaming technology has been evolving

  • @vrmilkshake6292
    @vrmilkshake6292 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This actually looks pretty great. I don't like the movement in Half Life: Alyx, and this seems like the perfect pace for it. I could see games with very fast run speeds not being as immersive though.
    A great first "step" at the very least :)

  • @ShadeMeadows
    @ShadeMeadows 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Damn...
    This is actually very interestin'~

  • @justinpatterson5291
    @justinpatterson5291 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Looks much better than teleporting everywhere.

  • @yorkie1792
    @yorkie1792 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just 30 years ago I had a Super Nintendo. Playing Double Dragon 🐉 Amazing

  • @jamesmoriarty9433
    @jamesmoriarty9433 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just take my money already! 💰

  • @0NEG0D
    @0NEG0D 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That's cool 👍👍👍

  • @350zLeMans
    @350zLeMans 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow this is awsome

  • @chanceturcotte
    @chanceturcotte 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Now that I have the treadmill on the way, the bhaptics has my attention. So cool...

    • @charlesarmour162
      @charlesarmour162 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      They shipped it out now?

    • @chanceturcotte
      @chanceturcotte 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@charlesarmour162 Canadian shipments of the treadmill are supposed to happen early November.

  • @raulmartinez5649
    @raulmartinez5649 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    wow! the movement looks way better than your previous treadmills! were they any changes to the sensors?

    • @KATVR
      @KATVR  4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      KAT Walk C has been optimized entirely for gamers, letting you achieve overall a more hardcore VR walking experience once you've mastered it. We are also introducing custom-friction shoes that allow everyone to adjust them to own walking habits and find the sweet spot of the friction force!

  • @july172
    @july172 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thats exactly how my setup is. 3080 ti, 5950x amd, 32 gig ram. Bro w the cat walk c2 and the index which is being delivered. I bought the nofio wireless adapter for the index to make it a better headset than the meta quest 4.

  • @vrbalance2686
    @vrbalance2686 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I need to sell a lot of counterweights just to pay for shipping.

    • @rrenaissauce
      @rrenaissauce 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Beyond the Box hold on how did u pay that? through the kickstarter?? so it’s basically like u preordered it?

    • @dajunnis2449
      @dajunnis2449 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Beyond the Box i was lucky and got it for 1150 ;) and ngl, propably the best investment I ever made XD

    • @dajunnis2449
      @dajunnis2449 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ren Solomon basically, they’re estimated to be shipped in October :/

    • @-YELDAH
      @-YELDAH 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      i really don't see how it can be worth more than a full index set, it's just too simple of a product, the 300 shipping is what kicked me off :|

    • @jonathanvandagriff7515
      @jonathanvandagriff7515 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@-YELDAH 300 shipping???oh wow so the early bird price still had a catch lmao

  • @mumblingmarvic8969
    @mumblingmarvic8969 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    one day ill have this

  • @Zokeyr
    @Zokeyr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I feel like this would take a lot of getting used to. I'm used to taking larger steps when I'm walking, so I feel like my feet would slip off the front end.

  • @kabirpalamadai3742
    @kabirpalamadai3742 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    MORE VIDEOS PLEASE!

  • @techamritshorts
    @techamritshorts 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    awesome

  • @77netwar
    @77netwar 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    When all the kinks are worked out, I do feel I would pay at most 800 euros for it. I do hope the retail version will go for that.

    • @rocketassistedgoat1079
      @rocketassistedgoat1079 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, it can't be more than that. PSVR2 with foveated rendering, will bring AAA games and graphics. Realistically, as you also need a $US500 PS5, a headset that probably costs as much...I wouldn't expect many people to pay much more than that again to complete the package.

  • @JTKZ
    @JTKZ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I hope one day to be sponsored be these guys.. I love VR and I would get the word out about this.

  • @TheAzraeldark
    @TheAzraeldark 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Soy de México cuando irá a estar disponible para acá y en qué precio es compatible con las PS VR SONY verdad???? Saludos desde Salamanca Guanajuato México es algo increíble su producto

  • @TotalGAMIX
    @TotalGAMIX 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How does this compare to the other models? Since it's newer tech will it be better? Or does the other models also come with the tech this one has? And may I ask if you are planning on making another high end model? Or will you be updating/upgrading your other models as time goes by

    • @ThaRainmaker
      @ThaRainmaker 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This one doesn’t allow u to walk backwards naturally like the Mini does, you have to put one foot back behind the other

    • @TotalGAMIX
      @TotalGAMIX 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ThaRainmaker ohh thanks!

    • @truthsyrup5764
      @truthsyrup5764 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ThaRainmaker can you also strafe in the mini?

  • @zeemperor5796
    @zeemperor5796 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Do you guys plan on releasing the Kat walk C on your site eventually, seeing as how you reached funding so quickly on Kickstarter? Or is this a limited time product?

    • @KATVR
      @KATVR  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hi there!
      This is definitely not a time-limited product. KAT Wak C will be available on retail say after the Kickstarter is over and the crowdfunding units delivered. The retail price will however be slightly higher than the Kickstarter one

    • @johanfourie1085
      @johanfourie1085 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@KATVR Tried backing you guys for a quartet set, but you do not ship to South Africa. :(

    • @Anathem22
      @Anathem22 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@johanfourie1085 South Africa has electricity?

    • @jay2bnvd
      @jay2bnvd 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Anathem22 Hahahahaha, yeah with our national power supplier I guess you're right...I wouldn't be able to do much with it now anyways.

    • @Anathem22
      @Anathem22 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jay2bnvd glad you have it

  • @kade_raid1019
    @kade_raid1019 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The fact they never include sound from a mic makes me think this thing is loud as hell

    • @maxthesavage9910
      @maxthesavage9910 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      it is, watch nathies video

    • @ThaRainmaker
      @ThaRainmaker 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It’s quite loud , lol good guess

    • @sstorey60
      @sstorey60 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@maxthesavage9910 to be fair to katwalk that was in a huge echoey room with concrete floor, i imagine in a smaller room with carpet or just a rug underneath the sound won't seem half as bad as it did in the video.

    • @truthsyrup5764
      @truthsyrup5764 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      buy your own house first dude. i love being able to make noise

    • @kade_raid1019
      @kade_raid1019 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@truthsyrup5764 cant im 15 lol was gonna get one but I decided not too I didnt wanna put that much into it shipping was already expensive but our state tax is 10% so I just canceled

  • @LoneOxide
    @LoneOxide 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It looks like there’s a little bit of drift after the player stops walking IRL, is this an issue with camera sync or is it meant to be?
    Also, I backed the Kickstarter! Can’t wait to recieve my Katwalk C!

    • @tehgusbus2716
      @tehgusbus2716 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I think there's a mode where you hold your foot up and it'll move automatically for you. Maybe it's trying to decide if he's doing that you can prob change the settings

    • @LoneOxide
      @LoneOxide 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ahh makes sense, thanks for the response :D

  • @wolfrain8898
    @wolfrain8898 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    vr headset vr treadmill vr suit and now i feel the headset on my head the heat from my headset on my head the smooth walking when i'm going up stairs or on gravel in game the strap around my waste from the vr treadmill i feel the vr suit on my body and the controls in my hands and yet somehow the immersion factor goes up by 100 percent vs a vr headset by itself still because finally you have enuff inputs close to real life coming through it just makes you want more way more everyone and their mother will after trying that set up with vr headset at its best vr treadmill being passable and a vr suit at its best will want way more but because its your body doing all the heavy lifting some will be only able to play for 30m. before getting tired do to body strength and some 2 hours some 4,6,8 hours but all will want more of it but it still might not catch on because a lot of the gaming community work 8 to 12 hours a day 5 days out of the week and are just ready to sit at home and play a game or watch tv and relax after a long day of moving so we might have to wait for full dive to become a thing for everyone to get on board with it still if by 2030-2035 you can get a good vr headset a good vr treadmill and a good vr suit for $1000 dollars in a bundle my guess is half of all gamers in there 5-25 years of age will have that bundle and use it on a regular basis until they meet the joys of the full-time work grind

  • @Castroo
    @Castroo 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I feel like the feet will get hurt or sore because how it is bent.

  • @bronks1200
    @bronks1200 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    does it have haptics? like if say a large enemy is walking towards you and vibrates the ground, will you feel it in your feet? Jurassic park style. also i remember it being on the loud side has that been improved any?

    • @piedude67
      @piedude67 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      If the stretch goals are met then yes it will have haptics.

    • @rocketassistedgoat1079
      @rocketassistedgoat1079 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@piedude67 I want a Mexican dwarf to fart on my head for wind effects. Will it have that?

    • @piedude67
      @piedude67 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@rocketassistedgoat1079 only if you have enough whit

  • @iranganirangani1948
    @iranganirangani1948 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    How much is game pack?

  • @we3810
    @we3810 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What if I want to sit and jump . What about swimming.

  • @VisibleMRJ
    @VisibleMRJ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I tried the virtuix omni and that was shit. A lot of people I know who tried it feel the same. This doesn't seem much different from the omni but I really hope that I'm wrong because it would be so cool to be able to naturally walk in VR.

    • @TotalGAMIX
      @TotalGAMIX 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I do believe this is miles better Although the tech will be a bit buggy in the beginning, but it can only get better from this point forward 💪

    • @Wylie288
      @Wylie288 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Are we watching the same video? It was immediately apparent how much better this is.

  • @jonmabec
    @jonmabec 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Half-Life Alyx has a single walking speed. Does the KAt C software overrride the walking speed in game based on how fast you are actually walking?

    • @jakebutterskin
      @jakebutterskin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If it doesn't, I'm absolutely positive someone will mod it in

    • @KATVR
      @KATVR  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hi there Jonas!
      Although KAT Walk C supports analog speed, we cannot provide it for the games that do not feature this function. This depends entirely on the in-game mechanics and is impossible to override with hardware

    • @jonmabec
      @jonmabec 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@KATVR Fair enough. What about the decoupling of the head and body? Does it override that? Considering most vr games only has direction based on the HMD or one of the hand controllers.

    • @TotalGAMIX
      @TotalGAMIX 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I guess for now we will have to walk slower or faster.. But as it becomes more mainstream Developers will probably optimize for it

    • @Wylie288
      @Wylie288 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Half Life Alyx has analogue walking speed.

  • @namegoeshere197
    @namegoeshere197 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great... now we just need some more vr games.... ATM i cant see myself spending every day in vr.

  • @UncleFish9001
    @UncleFish9001 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well I've ordered mine and now I'm on the waiting list for the Valve Index. My bank account isn't happy but I sure will be.

    • @hohosbebbe1232
      @hohosbebbe1232 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      is it good and worth the money now that you have had it for year?

    • @passionatelobster1226
      @passionatelobster1226 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hohosbebbe1232 Haha the Index is worth it, I can't tell you about the treadmill yet because I just got it about a month ago and haven't been able to use it much. I will say that what little I have played on the treadmill has been pretty amazing.

  • @bubbabui123
    @bubbabui123 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does anyone else get antsy when he burns all that ammo for like 4 guys

  • @Heroheenie
    @Heroheenie 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    How realistic is the walking?

  • @doingtime20
    @doingtime20 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I want an X-Com remake on VR and with KatVR. Imagine dropping into multiple missions killing invading aliens, recovering their bodies etc. Flying the interceptors to shoot UFOs, then entering them and exploring them etc.

  • @ImNera
    @ImNera 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When will the kat walk c be available for $700 again

    • @Wylie288
      @Wylie288 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      never.

    • @kylewang6129
      @kylewang6129 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      They seem to have just had a celebration. You can check out their KS page

    • @piedude67
      @piedude67 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It either was or it's going to be soon at $750

  • @ErrorRaffyline0
    @ErrorRaffyline0 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ok I do think this thing is amazing, but KAT VR, please be honest about the noise, don't mute the audio of the treadmill, that's kinda false advertising...

  • @johnnykim5355
    @johnnykim5355 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi katvr. My cousin wants to buy this but he won’t have enough money till near the end of the month. The website says no one get charged till the end of july so would he be safe to place an order now even though he’s short on the delivery fee?

  • @arcadios8552
    @arcadios8552 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    f*ck me. i was present all days, watching previous Vrhamsters videos from the original katwalk vr. and when i saw no more news from katVR, the katwalk C discount appeared & saw it too late, damn :( :(

  • @staticvoidmain
    @staticvoidmain 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My wife is 5 feet. Sad that this can't be adjusted to accommodate her. Can't justify buying one if she's not able to use it as well.

    • @KATVR
      @KATVR  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi there, staticvoimain!
      Thank you for your interest in the KAT Walk C! We are sorry to hear that our height limitations wouldn't allow you to share the KAT Walk C with your lady! Be assured that we are going to collect your feedback to improve the quality of our products and make them more inclusive in the future! Each piece of feedback means the world for us, and we are so glad you contacted us to let us know about it! : ) Be sure to follow our social media channels to stay tuned about our future solutions - we will do our best to meet your needs next time!

  • @ironmeagher5925
    @ironmeagher5925 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    i feel like im too heavy for it

    • @piedude67
      @piedude67 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The weight limit is approx 280lbs.

  • @allmight8127
    @allmight8127 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Any aussie buyers just some questions if i could

  • @nice2care
    @nice2care 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Too expensive. Will wait until it is half the listed price.

  • @Mauroprivate
    @Mauroprivate 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can i Get one free for the Trade of a high Five ?

  • @lastname2139
    @lastname2139 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    thats a shotgun not a sniper what are you doing

  • @timur5241
    @timur5241 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Stop firing at shield. It won't work.

  • @yaman2114
    @yaman2114 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Shut up and take my money

    • @KATVR
      @KATVR  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for your interest, Yaman. Hope you really enjoy it, and the money won't be wasted if you get a full-immersion experience and have a better experience. 😉

  • @AH-vo4fn
    @AH-vo4fn 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    It’s around $3,500 - $4,000 to play this game like this...

  • @locobusters
    @locobusters 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Doesn't seem natural

    • @LucasTheNoodlePot
      @LucasTheNoodlePot 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think it all depends on how natural you move on it tho if you look at other videos of people using it they look completely natural probably just takes some getting used to

    • @locobusters
      @locobusters 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LucasTheNoodlePot theres a delay and that will take me out of immersion

    • @Ichibuns
      @Ichibuns 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'd say its more natural than a thumbstick

    • @jackedwards1255
      @jackedwards1255 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@locobusters I definitely don't think a VR machine with delay would raise 10x the goal on Kickstarter. If you see a delay I'm 95% sure that's because of youtube or that the editing might have accidentally been out of sync.

  • @nerfnedmitdmmist
    @nerfnedmitdmmist 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this is crap all small prices are away, i dont pay more than 1000 for the item and shipping .... and the 699. 799, 899 its tha same you pay more, you see it later ,this time i hate #KATVR

    • @amazingaussieshorts4143
      @amazingaussieshorts4143 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You gotta admit they've done exceptionally well for the product and the price it's listed at 👌🔥

    • @KATVR
      @KATVR  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi there!
      The special Kickstarter price of 999$ is still a discounted price in relation to the final retail price that will be announced after crowdfunding : ) Higher discount for a limited quantity of units for the earliest of backers is a standard way of crowdfunding. Although, we are aware that the price is still beyond the reach of many virtual reality enthusiasts. But we would like to assure you, KAT Walk C is worth its price : )

    • @yaelm631
      @yaelm631 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@KATVR when you sell them at 700$ you are saying you lose money ?
      I know RND is costly and you are making the first of this kind product for consumer.
      Also you want first believers and backers of your brand to have a serious discount (explaining why you could lose money at 700)
      But if 1000 isn't the final price and product will cost 1,6 time the cheapest option, I "feel like" I'm paying too much for the same object.
      As you said, you can't (yet) deliver a product for all wallet.
      But I believe it's already a huge step forward for consumer/enthusiast VR and Kat-walk

    • @dayz112
      @dayz112 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@yaelm631 maybe they don't loose money, but, don't forget that you are not only paying for the hardware, you are also paying the software, the time they spent developing, it's also important. And also if you want to continue to have development, you need to pay that too.

    • @yaelm631
      @yaelm631 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dayz112 my bad, I said "RND" instead of "R&D"