I think the arch needs cuts outs on the sides to open up the space and provide more light for either kitchen. I would go with kitchen option 2 though. The additional seating is so comfy, and more storage can be found.
This. Unless you practically never cook, in almost every workspace--office, garage, workshop, kitchen--you always ends up wishing you had more space, whether it be comfortable storage or available work surfaces.
I agree option 1, you will not regret having more kitchen storage. Mixers,blenders, waffle makers, crock pots, air fryer they all take up space, for us they take up a shelf in out laundry room cause we don't have enuf storage in our kitchen.
Definitely prefer the kitchen triangle. If it’s level between kitchen and dining area you can put a leaf in the table to lengthen it as needed. I adore an eating nook but it limits entertaining and puts your guests on top of you in the kitchen. Embrace the tunnel lol. You’ll want to spend time at the dining table with all the light and plants.
Definitely design option 1. You will need way more storage and counter space than you think. Suggestion. Use some cardboard boxes to simulate the cabinets it helps a ton!
I would suggest going with the option that is preferable for everyday living, and give yourself flexibility to change the setup in the short term. It sounds like you prefer the room arrangement of option 2, but the historical and kitchen amenities of option 1. Can you make the arrangement of option 1 more daily pleasing with options for changes in times of large gatherings? A small table with a leaf that is accessible? Plants in rolling pots that can easily be moved to another location or even outside during good weather? My two cents.
I support this. Having a table that fits 6-8 doesn’t need to be always available. Some tables have up to two leaves (sp?), and you could even fit a comfy chair if you only keep a couple dining chairs out. No idea where you’d store extra chairs and leaves, but wouldn’t need to be immediately on hand.
That's the only correct answer, what fits your use. But, even cocking frequently or not, the sink in the middle to option 2 make a big difference. Only using both ways to notice how...
I personally would prefer option 1. This way you can probably fit more guests (maybe use an extendable table?) and the kitchen has lots of storage. I think, sitting at the dining table amongst all those plants would feel pretty great - probably very similar to the chair in option 2. And you can probably just put the plants that are too big for the dining room into your office under the skylight.
Option 1. No one ever said i like this kitchen but i'd really like less storage and countertop space. I fully support and understand your love of your plant jungle. If not all housed here, you now have a entire house for them to claim. Alternatively, have you considered a convertible/expandable "transformer" dining table and chairs? Your plants could all stay together and you could get the best of both a lounge and a diningroom allowing space for both. I imagine it would feel cozy to eat surrounded by plants and friends. You can then find visual rest in the kitchen and patio and when table is compact tuck your chair in the corner and its all lounge for you
Definitely the first kitchen option. That design makes the best use of the space, and you'll be grateful for the storage. Also, how many homes have a dining room now? What a luxury. You'll probably spend more time there than you think.
Over the kitchen options Id personally go with option 1. And Id also consider adding a small narrow maybe wheelable wood block island to the middle. Open concept is great and the kitchen leading you to the dinning space shows great intention but i hate galley (sp) kitchens and this gives me that vibe so id add some type of island to break that up a bit.
option 2....also for the kitchen nook table....do a marine folding table...to give you more counter space if needed and gives you more seating space when needed.
I would go option 1 but have the dining area in the front of the house and the couch / lounge / entertainment in the back, so you can still have your morning coffee there
Just saw your exhibit in downtown Pittsburgh this weekend. The photos are soooo much better in person. Had to grab a book for the coffee table. Great work, keep it up! 👍
I love option 2. I’m a plant guy so creating space for them is a win for me. My first thought on option one was, “he needs to separate the space more.” I think breaking the kitchen up from the front room creates a better more comfortable space for the kitchen and front. Also the plant lounge space can be really flexible and still be used for dining in a pinch.
Having a dining space where you can talk to your guests while you prepare food is actually a nice advantage. I like option 2 better for that reason - you could still talk to guests in option 1, but this feels more integrated. The lack of storage is an issue, but if you use the shelves in the nook to do some nice dishes display, that can offset some of that storage. Maybe think about Costco pantry storage somewhere in the basement, and keep immediate needs stuff in the kitchen.
I prefer the 2nd option - kitchen/diner with the the lounge style 'garden room'. Btw, I enjoy watching your videos; your manner is easy, informed, thoughtful and intelligent. I wish you all the best with the project. I'll be looking for the thumbnails of the houses and watching your progress.
I'm voting option 2! I love the idea of a chill space with the plants! Maybe a few shelves above the seating in the kitchen for extra storage. I feel like option 2 is less like a tunnel and makes the spaces feel connected yet separate. Can't wait to see which you choose!
Option 2 for me. I think breaking up the linearity of the space is a great idea. One thing I would add is some open shelves (maybe made from some of the salvaged wood from the house?) in the corner to the right of the sink where you could keep things like serving trays and cookbooks, maybe a kettle or some other frequently used item. If you're going to have storage above the bench it should also be open shelves so it doesn't feel as visually heavy and cramped as a closed cabinet would.
I love option #2. Always remember this is your home and should never be constructed to family/friends. The majority of time it will be you and/or significant other. I think you can find/make a table that the top flips over or extends out for more seating. Also, the table top can be used for food prep or serve as a buffet area. The sitting/plant area is a place for you. I like the aesthetic of coming from a small entrance into increasingly larger spaces. Very Frank Lloyd Wright. I feel with the first option there’s a lot of wasted space. Also, you have a basement you can store less frequently used items and/or food.
I'm going Function over Form #1... Storage is always an issue in every home. In the future, you will pat yourself on the back for saving that closet. Additionally, you are creative enough to develop/build/find a table that will sit 4 but expand to accommodate 8 when needed. You can store the extra leaves in the closet.
The way you describe the two options, you clearly prefer option 2. The benefit of option 2, beyond what you share, is that it is an not so difficult a remodel to shift to option 1 for future owners or for you if you change your mind. It would be easier to move the fridge and build cabinets into the table alcove than to do the reverse in the future. So, I vote for option 2.
Hello, I enjoy watching your videos 😊. To answer your question, I recommend you option 1! Pros in the kitchen, the entire layout, the generous work space, the light floor and easier to maintain, the cleaner appearance, it appears visually larger. Pros to the dining room, it will be more intimate in its own room with your pretty plants, it will give off a cocooning, comfortable, relaxing effect and you will have the impression that the house is larger with 3 distinct rooms. I love that the kitchen is in the middle too.
i think the best option comes down to how much you value kitchen functionality & formal dining vs having a variety of spaces. With this being a tight, linear building, I'm not sure if it really has the potential to fully achieve what is traditionally intended with a more formal kitchen/dining relationship. I think it makes more sense to sacrifice that desire in favor of achieving a greater number of more successful transitional spaces. Option 2 wins for me.
I would go with the option 1. I think more kitchen cabinets would be better. Maybe utilizing the walls for the plants at the end can be an option. Also maybe choosing a round table which can get small into a rectangular.
Option 2 for me, with a counter-depth fridge. You can add a lot of storage under the banquet seating, and you gain the lovely sunny space in the back for other purposes.
if you plan to sell in the future, a well-designed kitchen with ample storage is a great choice, as it adds value and appeals to most buyers. That said, I agree that a cozy sitting area surrounded by plants in the morning sounds awesome.
2:29 😂😂 only some one who lives on a two-way lane, one-side parking only street will ever now how truly rare and wonderful it is to see that much parking!
Option 2 is way better from my perspective as someone who does a lot of cooking. You don't need all the counter space in the first version. In fact I think you might find that food prep is easier and more pleasant sitting at the table. I don't know whether it's possible but I'd probably throw the fridge to the right of the sink, even if it means losing a bit of counter space. That would give you a little more cabinet room on the left, so a more generous pantry. I know that you want to center the sink under the window, but would it ruin things to shove the wall on the right into the back space? That way the depth of the fridge gives you more room for pictures or shelving. Those are my thoughts.
I laughed when I saw the thumbnail was your face in a pile of bricks, just like you promised haha. I think I am more aesthetically/self indulgently attracted to option 2 for the kitchen, BUT in the end I think option 1 is a lot more practical, give yourself the kitchen counter and storage space while you can, and having a proper dining area separate from the kitchen will be nicer for having meals and hosting. Maybe get some comfy upholstered dining chairs so it's still a nice place to sit and relax and be around your plants and the natural light.
@@ChrisHythaI got the same. The only drawback is that it blends in with all the others so I have to read the label to see it’s yours. The row house is very distinct and easy to locate
The logistics of cleanup are one of the rarely documented things on the YT's, but one of the most important. Option 2! The journey feels better as you make your way through the spaces, and having a morning coffee/plant room seems like it more strongly reflects your proclivities. Starting your day off with some sun and a warm drink will help set the tone for the rest of the day! Bruh!
I like Option #1, but I would make the pantry a tiny 1/2 bath (with a pocket door if possible). A 1st floor bathroom makes life easier for both you and your guests. Love this series!
Personally I would definitely go with the first option. The extra kitchen space would be so convenient and be felt every day. Always go for what works for you though!
It’s option 2 for me, you mention the cabinets above the seating, but I immediately thought “that’s shelves for spices and stuff.” I’m also curious to know if you would do something that “eats” the space in your backyard like a solarium for the plants? Like… it’s just a concrete pad now, but it could be a greenhouse? That’s probably more permits. Loved the opening where the boys got together and helped out. Love to see a home be restored, but even more love to see community blossom. Whatever path this journey takes, and whatever form it embodies at the end, I’m so hyped to see it!
I would hate to lose the counter space and pantry space of the first one. The second one although it opens up because of the table it seems more cluttered and crowded than the first kitchen. Could you bring the bench seating idea of the second plan into the dining room of the first plan? The dining table could shift over hopefully allowing more room for your plants. Anyways I choose the first plan.
Option 2, easy. Gotta have the lounge, and the dining area is much more cozy. The space has a more relaxed flow - Option 1 feels like it accelerates you into the table at the end.
Definitely go open/tunnel concept, maybe slap up some shelves so you can have your dining area surrounded by plants. You might even enjoy the lounge area but losing all that pantry space would be a terrible trade off imo.
Option 1. Get a table with a hidden leaf for seating more people when needed (option 2 didn't look like it would seat 8). Possibly put built in seating against the south(?) wall, store dining chairs in the basement, keeps the north side of the room (with the built in shelves) open for plants and lounging. Reconfigure for guests as needed.
I like the first option. You could pair a larger, more comfortable dining room chair with a smaller table that could extend into the kitchen space when you need to seat eight people. (There are a lot of round tables that expand to seat 6 comfortably. Perhaps you could squeeze in 8 in a pinch.)
I had a similar experience with my flat because my brain was constantly battling between form, needs and functionality. At the end it's your space, your bubble. You'll spend 90% of your time alone or with your partner so it has to fit your needs. Do you like to cook? add an island that could be used to sit and eat, do you like your plants and enjoy your morning coffee? Build your chill area. For example on my flat I built a table that could be moved around to be either my office, dinner table for 6 or an extra cooking island if I need it. So, if I have to decide based on your 2 proposals, I would go for the second one ;)
Option 1 for sure. Though I think an 8-top table is going to be a stretch in either layout. Maybe a 4-top with leaves you can extend into the kitchen should you want to host a party.
I much prefer option #1. Having more space in your kitchen will never be a mistake. Plus, keeping the cupboard as your pantry will be another piece of the original home. Most of the time it'll just be yourself and Morgan. As someone with a houseful of plants (hubs keeps telling me we have enough and then adds to the collection, lol), I love that space! You could design a table that is long and narrower than 'normal', that reaches through to kitchen for entertaining but when not needed, the top could be a double layer. Extra seating could be stools that stack together and be stored in bottom of pantry. Or used as stands for plants. Struggling to describe what I mean. Hope you understand my ramble.
I prefer Option 1 to Option 2, but perhaps there's some sort of hybrid that might be better. You say Option 1 creates a narrow feeling kitchen space, but I think Option 2 feels narrower to me. If someone is sitting at those chairs, it becomes awkward to navigate through the kitchen. As you walk through from the front of the house towards the back, I imagine you weaving to the right around the fridge and then to the left around the chairs, which doesn't feel like a nice flow to me. Also, in Option 2 the counter space to the left of the stove seems not very usable, so it's even less counter space than it seems. If you took Option 1 as a starting point, what if you pushed the table in the dining area towards one of the walls and have a bench seat against the wall (borrowing the setup from Option 2). With the bench lower than the table, you could leave the table pushed against the wall for more space, but then pull it away from the wall for more seating when you're entertaining. Also, I don't know what plants you already have that you need space for, but it looks like a lot of the plants in the mock up are on the floor. If you instead put some shelves up higher and put smaller potted plants along the shelves, that would still feel like you're surrounded by plants but would leave more room for the furniture.
Just an idea - on option B - loose the built in seating, put a counter there, for a breakfast bar, which would be able to double for a 'bar' with a party - bar seats tuck under, cabinets above, something interesting and different than the kitchen. The dinner table there is going to be a pinch point. The lounge table could be one of the converting/expanding tables that could handle 4 people, you have a basement for storage of the chairs as needed - if you keep the plants at the dining/lounge entrance less bushy or trimmed back (or move them for company, it would allow for lots of plants, particularly if you have some too.
if you had/have like a family with 3+ children the first one far superior. the second one is more you focused I think. I never had a seat among plants and hate not having enough counter space so I would prefer the first one. The amount of food storage would also be amazing for a ton of canning and having a small greenhouse with vegetables in the back. All in all it’s your place I don’t think even two people could find a satisfactory compromise in this case 😅
My vote is option 2 with some adjustments! I'm a firm believer in designing and decorating your space for yourself not resale, and it sounds like you prioritize having a relaxation/plant space, so work around that. I do agree with some of the other commenters saying you could consider some adjustments in the kitchen space; maybe moving the fridge (check out counter depth fridges for more space saving!) to the right of the sink to try to get more pantry on the left. Personally, I'd definitely try to get as much panty/large space as possible, as thin storage doors/drawers can be very limiting. I'd also recommend checking out some tiny home videos for inspirations on how to utilize more hidden space and just generally maximize your kitchen area.
As a home a cook option 1 makes way more sense imo. I'd consider one of those crazy tables that can extend. I saw one on Instagram the other day that went from 3-seater to 10+ish. Also on the plants, would be interested in what your light is like in the front of the house? are you anticipating not having any plants in the living room by the front door?
If you do decide to go option 2, I'd add open shelves above the breakfast nook for storage. High enough that a tall person won't hit their head getting in and out the built in seating.
Definitely option 2. First one passes the bottleneck, then opens up. You Should use an expandable table. On the wall just a padded bench (with storage below) and probably a shelf high up. The green loft behind seems to me essential for Your health and inner balance.
If I can propose a completely different idea; building on option 2, what if you eliminated the banquette and rotated the dining table 90 degrees and wedged it in the corner closer to the sunroom with 2-3 chairs surrounding it. Then on the other corner next to the stairs enclosure you could have a cabinet that's say 22" high nesting underneath a dining table height console. Finally opposite the fridge on the stairs enclosure wall you could have a second console but counter height to function as extra work surface. when wanting to host a big party (8ish) you could pull out the dining table to the middle of the kitchen, bush the 1st console up to it, lower the 2nd console and also pushing it up to them making a huge table all together and the storage cabinet can function as a bench
option 2: 1) The view from the lounge back to the front is a much better view. 2) Sink is closer to the stove (I found that having sink close to the stove is a life saver) 3) Above the dining table, you can use the beam to create a hanging systems for pots/pans saving more space 4) Creates a nice logical break from front of the house to the back of the house
Choose Option 1. More counterspace is usually a win. Your plants could be relocated to the living room, or dispersed throughout that living room to kitchen area.
Definetly Option 2! It suites you better, you’ll be more comfortable with a big chair, plants and a cup of coffee. You’ll serve eight for dinner only so many times a year and the rest of the year you’ll have a big table serving as a ad hoc filing cabinet for junk.
You'll never regret more Kitchen Storage. You could maybe modify the back room design so that you get seats against the wall sort of like the nook in second option, with a ledge behind the booth seating for plants?
I like option one mainly because of the added kitchen storage and workspace. As for the dining area perhaps some funky shelves to put some of your plants on that right side wall. They don't all have to have floor space. That way you could free up more floor space for a bigger table. A round table might reduce some of that tunnelling effect as well. Love the series.
It seems like option 2 would generally for you better but the kitchen is very small. It would be interesting to look into some modular design elements that can help expand the space of surface area as you need. Boats and in particular narrow boats could be a good source for ideas
I’d go with option 1. Just an idea to circumvent the dining space issue-get a table that expands, that way you can keep it smaller for everyday use and possibly expand for more seating when needed.
Absolutely option #1, you'll eventually regret #2. When you actually move into the dining room, you'll come up with a shelving design to fit the plants...you got this ;-)
I’m going to go with option 1 with suggestion of doing a banquette in the dining room. I think that doing so you could still have that lounge vibe with room for your plants.
I definitely prefer option one. But is there a reason that you can’t have the dining area in the front room and your living area in the back room? I don’t feel like you need to shoehorn a table into your kitchen (as in option 2) when you have the front area where it seems like you would be able to fit a dining area on the left side opposite the stairs. And this way you would be able to enjoy the back room a lot more since I imagine you might get more use out of a comfortable living room with plants as opposed to a dining room. Just a thought.
Kitchen 2. instead of a table like this you could build your own table with the same countertop as the rest of the kitchen so you get a more unified look. also makes up for the lost counter space.
What if you do something completely different Put the kitchen in front, the dinning area in the center and the living room in the back where it gets more light
Option 2 looks like it gives you future opportunities to change things out. If you at some future date decided you didn’t like the banquette you could remove it and install additional cabinets. Having the rear room reminds me of the Sun room in our house. I love sitting here with the plants and openness.
I think you need to plan for resale...always for resale even if you don't want to sell it....Would someone else want the storage and the dining area in the south? I would. Plants can go in other areas of the house. So Option 1 BTW Love the book...the images are lovely.
In both case, you have to go through the kitchen, so I would prefer option 1, as it is still possible to extend the dining table in the kitchen when there are many people for diner.
Def. the second kitchen design is more appeling to my eyes. It has cosier vibes and feels more like a relaxed space instead of the straight kitchen that feels like a fast moving river that ends in a pond with no beach to relax in. And in the second version the "extra room" will make it more lived in. just a dining area is left unused most times of the day. So second version would be it for me
Option 1, the tunnel, would be the way I'd go. Re: the galley kitchen, it looks like you've have space for a rolling cart/island that could be pushed out of the way when not needed. There's something really nice about having a surface right opposite the refrigerator to put stuff on as you take out what you'll need. The galley seems a tad wide for that. And then, to put stuff on as you use it to queue up to put back into the 'fridge. The dining table could be one with leaves to add, or even better, one where the leaves are integral to the table and don't need to be stored. They just flip up from underneath. With a couple nice dining chairs, it'll be just as nice as the lounge idea in option 2. BTW, $275 for all that debris removal is a great price.
I like option #1 for me because I like the large pantry and separate dining area. It would also be my choice if you were doing this just for resale. Option #2, however, seems to be more your style with a quiet garden spot for you and your plants. Having lived with a kitchen having limited counter space, keep in mind that the table can serve as counter space during meal prep. To deal with minimal pantry space, I had an industrial shelving unit in the basement which I used for occasional kitchen items like crock pot, pressure cooker, meat slicer, turkey roaster, huge soup pot, platters, etc. With all the work you will be doing, you could have an actual walk-in pantry in the basement and use the kitchen pantry for food items. #2 also gives you a bit more wall space in the living room which is actually nice to have.
My neighbor has basically option 1, but right in front of the oven between the kitchen and living room, theres a breakfast nook/bar. It works so well. I think this would solve your issue of having more sitting/dining space. You'll have separate tables, but youll have a larger capacity. Just the two options as is, definitely option 1. I think you would regret sacrificing kitchen space for a larger dining space/lounge that you only use occasionally. You use your kitchen every day, multiple times per day.
To me, both plans have their merit, Chris. As a single guy and a nature lover, I would go for option two. I can envision many peaceful moments sitting among your plants drinking coffee. If you much enjoy cooking. And having guests over frequently, I’d go with option one. Overall, my own personal choice would be for option two. Happy holidays! Keep the vids coming. You’re such a talented, intelligent, creative. Architect!
06:28 I would love to get your feedback on the kitchen design! Do you like option 1 or option 2?
Option 1 absolutely. All you need is organization for the sunroom. The kitchen layout is perfect and provides necessary storage space.
Option 1 for all the reasons people have said. An expandable table might help
Option 1 for sure the fridge and pantry in option two make it feel even more narrow
it depends on how much you cook. if you cook a lot option 1,if you don't def option 2.
I think the arch needs cuts outs on the sides to open up the space and provide more light for either kitchen. I would go with kitchen option 2 though. The additional seating is so comfy, and more storage can be found.
Hands down option 1. Coming from someone with a small kitchen and little storage, I deeply yearn for the day I can have more kitchen space.
This. Unless you practically never cook, in almost every workspace--office, garage, workshop, kitchen--you always ends up wishing you had more space, whether it be comfortable storage or available work surfaces.
I agree option 1, you will not regret having more kitchen storage. Mixers,blenders, waffle makers, crock pots, air fryer they all take up space, for us they take up a shelf in out laundry room cause we don't have enuf storage in our kitchen.
Definitely prefer the kitchen triangle. If it’s level between kitchen and dining area you can put a leaf in the table to lengthen it as needed. I adore an eating nook but it limits entertaining and puts your guests on top of you in the kitchen. Embrace the tunnel lol. You’ll want to spend time at the dining table with all the light and plants.
Definitely design option 1. You will need way more storage and counter space than you think. Suggestion. Use some cardboard boxes to simulate the cabinets it helps a ton!
was thinking the same thing, "cardboard aided design"
The first option is the best due to it's long-term livability.
Option 1. I love the transition of space. Having that cosy kitchen tunnel to the bright open space at the back
Option 2 looks like it suits you better and it's strangely feels like you are gaining a room.👍❤️
especially if beyond the glass doors opens up to a nice outdoor area
Option 1. More balanced and aesthetically pleasing plus extra counter and cabinet space is always great.
I would suggest going with the option that is preferable for everyday living, and give yourself flexibility to change the setup in the short term. It sounds like you prefer the room arrangement of option 2, but the historical and kitchen amenities of option 1. Can you make the arrangement of option 1 more daily pleasing with options for changes in times of large gatherings? A small table with a leaf that is accessible? Plants in rolling pots that can easily be moved to another location or even outside during good weather? My two cents.
All good ideas, I love the idea of keeping things adaptable / moveable.
I support this. Having a table that fits 6-8 doesn’t need to be always available. Some tables have up to two leaves (sp?), and you could even fit a comfy chair if you only keep a couple dining chairs out. No idea where you’d store extra chairs and leaves, but wouldn’t need to be immediately on hand.
That's the only correct answer, what fits your use. But, even cocking frequently or not, the sink in the middle to option 2 make a big difference. Only using both ways to notice how...
I personally would prefer option 1. This way you can probably fit more guests (maybe use an extendable table?) and the kitchen has lots of storage. I think, sitting at the dining table amongst all those plants would feel pretty great - probably very similar to the chair in option 2. And you can probably just put the plants that are too big for the dining room into your office under the skylight.
Option 1. No one ever said i like this kitchen but i'd really like less storage and countertop space. I fully support and understand your love of your plant jungle. If not all housed here, you now have a entire house for them to claim. Alternatively, have you considered a convertible/expandable "transformer" dining table and chairs? Your plants could all stay together and you could get the best of both a lounge and a diningroom allowing space for both. I imagine it would feel cozy to eat surrounded by plants and friends. You can then find visual rest in the kitchen and patio and when table is compact tuck your chair in the corner and its all lounge for you
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I was coming on to say this exact thing. Option one but get a small table that can expand when you have guests. Best of both worlds.
As someone who likes to cook, option one is vastly preferable.
All depends on priorities and preference. Makes sense for someone who enjoys cooking to enjoy more cooking space. I need to nail down my priorities.
Definitely the first kitchen option. That design makes the best use of the space, and you'll be grateful for the storage. Also, how many homes have a dining room now? What a luxury. You'll probably spend more time there than you think.
Over the kitchen options Id personally go with option 1. And Id also consider adding a small narrow maybe wheelable wood block island to the middle. Open concept is great and the kitchen leading you to the dinning space shows great intention but i hate galley (sp) kitchens and this gives me that vibe so id add some type of island to break that up a bit.
option 2....also for the kitchen nook table....do a marine folding table...to give you more counter space if needed and gives you more seating space when needed.
I would go option 1 but have the dining area in the front of the house and the couch / lounge / entertainment in the back, so you can still have your morning coffee there
Interesting idea, but I worry the back is too small for the living room, and the light causes glare on the TV.
Just saw your exhibit in downtown Pittsburgh this weekend. The photos are soooo much better in person. Had to grab a book for the coffee table. Great work, keep it up! 👍
Glad you found the exhibit, and thanks for getting a copy!
He was in Pittsburgh over the weekend? 😢
@@MelHam01 I wasn't there, but my exhibition is! Its in the Benedum Trees Building.
@@MelHam01 His exhibit is downtown by the Christmas market. idk the building name, but its near the skating rink. Highly recommend.
@@Mithraschosen thank you!
I prefer option 2. My kitchen is a very social place, so seating in the kitchen is awesome.
I love option 2. I’m a plant guy so creating space for them is a win for me. My first thought on option one was, “he needs to separate the space more.” I think breaking the kitchen up from the front room creates a better more comfortable space for the kitchen and front. Also the plant lounge space can be really flexible and still be used for dining in a pinch.
Having a dining space where you can talk to your guests while you prepare food is actually a nice advantage. I like option 2 better for that reason - you could still talk to guests in option 1, but this feels more integrated. The lack of storage is an issue, but if you use the shelves in the nook to do some nice dishes display, that can offset some of that storage. Maybe think about Costco pantry storage somewhere in the basement, and keep immediate needs stuff in the kitchen.
I prefer the 2nd option - kitchen/diner with the the lounge style 'garden room'. Btw, I enjoy watching your videos; your manner is easy, informed, thoughtful and intelligent. I wish you all the best with the project. I'll be looking for the thumbnails of the houses and watching your progress.
I'm voting option 2! I love the idea of a chill space with the plants! Maybe a few shelves above the seating in the kitchen for extra storage. I feel like option 2 is less like a tunnel and makes the spaces feel connected yet separate. Can't wait to see which you choose!
Option 2 for me. I think breaking up the linearity of the space is a great idea.
One thing I would add is some open shelves (maybe made from some of the salvaged wood from the house?) in the corner to the right of the sink where you could keep things like serving trays and cookbooks, maybe a kettle or some other frequently used item. If you're going to have storage above the bench it should also be open shelves so it doesn't feel as visually heavy and cramped as a closed cabinet would.
I love option #2. Always remember this is your home and should never be constructed to family/friends. The majority of time it will be you and/or significant other. I think you can find/make a table that the top flips over or extends out for more seating. Also, the table top can be used for food prep or serve as a buffet area. The sitting/plant area is a place for you. I like the aesthetic of coming from a small entrance into increasingly larger spaces. Very Frank Lloyd Wright. I feel with the first option there’s a lot of wasted space. Also, you have a basement you can store less frequently used items and/or food.
I'm going Function over Form #1... Storage is always an issue in every home. In the future, you will pat yourself on the back for saving that closet. Additionally, you are creative enough to develop/build/find a table that will sit 4 but expand to accommodate 8 when needed. You can store the extra leaves in the closet.
The way you describe the two options, you clearly prefer option 2. The benefit of option 2, beyond what you share, is that it is an not so difficult a remodel to shift to option 1 for future owners or for you if you change your mind. It would be easier to move the fridge and build cabinets into the table alcove than to do the reverse in the future. So, I vote for option 2.
Hello, I enjoy watching your videos 😊. To answer your question, I recommend you option 1!
Pros in the kitchen, the entire layout, the generous work space, the light floor and easier to maintain, the cleaner appearance, it appears visually larger.
Pros to the dining room, it will be more intimate in its own room with your pretty plants, it will give off a cocooning, comfortable, relaxing effect and you will have the impression that the house is larger with 3 distinct rooms. I love that the kitchen is in the middle too.
i think the best option comes down to how much you value kitchen functionality & formal dining vs having a variety of spaces. With this being a tight, linear building, I'm not sure if it really has the potential to fully achieve what is traditionally intended with a more formal kitchen/dining relationship. I think it makes more sense to sacrifice that desire in favor of achieving a greater number of more successful transitional spaces. Option 2 wins for me.
I would go with the option 1. I think more kitchen cabinets would be better. Maybe utilizing the walls for the plants at the end can be an option. Also maybe choosing a round table which can get small into a rectangular.
I like to cook bake, so I like option #1. It offers more pantry space and the triangle of appliances.
Option 2 for me, with a counter-depth fridge. You can add a lot of storage under the banquet seating, and you gain the lovely sunny space in the back for other purposes.
if you plan to sell in the future, a well-designed kitchen with ample storage is a great choice, as it adds value and appeals to most buyers. That said, I agree that a cozy sitting area surrounded by plants in the morning sounds awesome.
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So far I've got very lucky every time I've had a dump truck pull up. Good fortune (:
Option 2 is way better from my perspective as someone who does a lot of cooking. You don't need all the counter space in the first version. In fact I think you might find that food prep is easier and more pleasant sitting at the table. I don't know whether it's possible but I'd probably throw the fridge to the right of the sink, even if it means losing a bit of counter space. That would give you a little more cabinet room on the left, so a more generous pantry. I know that you want to center the sink under the window, but would it ruin things to shove the wall on the right into the back space? That way the depth of the fridge gives you more room for pictures or shelving. Those are my thoughts.
I laughed when I saw the thumbnail was your face in a pile of bricks, just like you promised haha. I think I am more aesthetically/self indulgently attracted to option 2 for the kitchen, BUT in the end I think option 1 is a lot more practical, give yourself the kitchen counter and storage space while you can, and having a proper dining area separate from the kitchen will be nicer for having meals and hosting. Maybe get some comfy upholstered dining chairs so it's still a nice place to sit and relax and be around your plants and the natural light.
Thanks for your feedback! I am doing an A/B test for the thumbnail, glad you liked the bricks!
@@ChrisHythaI got the same. The only drawback is that it blends in with all the others so I have to read the label to see it’s yours. The row house is very distinct and easy to locate
The logistics of cleanup are one of the rarely documented things on the YT's, but one of the most important.
Option 2! The journey feels better as you make your way through the spaces, and having a morning coffee/plant room seems like it more strongly reflects your proclivities. Starting your day off with some sun and a warm drink will help set the tone for the rest of the day! Bruh!
Love option 1!
I like Option #1, but I would make the pantry a tiny 1/2 bath (with a pocket door if possible). A 1st floor bathroom makes life easier for both you and your guests. Love this series!
Option one would be my first choice
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Thanks for your support! It's fun to refine the skill of story telling / delivering information throughout this process!
Personally I would definitely go with the first option. The extra kitchen space would be so convenient and be felt every day. Always go for what works for you though!
Second option ftw!
Thanks for your vote!
It’s option 2 for me, you mention the cabinets above the seating, but I immediately thought “that’s shelves for spices and stuff.” I’m also curious to know if you would do something that “eats” the space in your backyard like a solarium for the plants? Like… it’s just a concrete pad now, but it could be a greenhouse? That’s probably more permits.
Loved the opening where the boys got together and helped out. Love to see a home be restored, but even more love to see community blossom. Whatever path this journey takes, and whatever form it embodies at the end, I’m so hyped to see it!
Thanks for your feedback! Definitely can refine both options with shelves etc. I lean towards options 2, but still debating.
Option 1. Got my High Rise book. Love it!
I would hate to lose the counter space and pantry space of the first one. The second one although it opens up because of the table it seems more cluttered and crowded than the first kitchen. Could you bring the bench seating idea of the second plan into the dining room of the first plan? The dining table could shift over hopefully allowing more room for your plants.
Anyways I choose the first plan.
Do not compromise kitchen space (especially counters) if possible
Thanks for your feedback!
I was in a somewhat similar situation before and kitchen space impacts your quality of life a lot, especially if you are cooking regularly
Option 2, easy. Gotta have the lounge, and the dining area is much more cozy. The space has a more relaxed flow - Option 1 feels like it accelerates you into the table at the end.
Definitely go open/tunnel concept, maybe slap up some shelves so you can have your dining area surrounded by plants.
You might even enjoy the lounge area but losing all that pantry space would be a terrible trade off imo.
personally i would go with option 1. thought I'm not a big plant person so i wouldn't have to worry about needing room for plants.
Option 1. Get a table with a hidden leaf for seating more people when needed (option 2 didn't look like it would seat 8). Possibly put built in seating against the south(?) wall, store dining chairs in the basement, keeps the north side of the room (with the built in shelves) open for plants and lounging. Reconfigure for guests as needed.
I like option 1. More kitchen❤
I much prefer option no 2
I like the first option. You could pair a larger, more comfortable dining room chair with a smaller table that could extend into the kitchen space when you need to seat eight people. (There are a lot of round tables that expand to seat 6 comfortably. Perhaps you could squeeze in 8 in a pinch.)
I had a similar experience with my flat because my brain was constantly battling between form, needs and functionality. At the end it's your space, your bubble. You'll spend 90% of your time alone or with your partner so it has to fit your needs. Do you like to cook? add an island that could be used to sit and eat, do you like your plants and enjoy your morning coffee? Build your chill area. For example on my flat I built a table that could be moved around to be either my office, dinner table for 6 or an extra cooking island if I need it. So, if I have to decide based on your 2 proposals, I would go for the second one ;)
Option 1 for sure. Though I think an 8-top table is going to be a stretch in either layout. Maybe a 4-top with leaves you can extend into the kitchen should you want to host a party.
I much prefer option #1. Having more space in your kitchen will never be a mistake. Plus, keeping the cupboard as your pantry will be another piece of the original home. Most of the time it'll just be yourself and Morgan. As someone with a houseful of plants (hubs keeps telling me we have enough and then adds to the collection, lol), I love that space! You could design a table that is long and narrower than 'normal', that reaches through to kitchen for entertaining but when not needed, the top could be a double layer. Extra seating could be stools that stack together and be stored in bottom of pantry. Or used as stands for plants. Struggling to describe what I mean. Hope you understand my ramble.
I like option 2. Especially when youll bring some (hang)
plants to the area aswell.
I prefer Option 1 to Option 2, but perhaps there's some sort of hybrid that might be better. You say Option 1 creates a narrow feeling kitchen space, but I think Option 2 feels narrower to me. If someone is sitting at those chairs, it becomes awkward to navigate through the kitchen. As you walk through from the front of the house towards the back, I imagine you weaving to the right around the fridge and then to the left around the chairs, which doesn't feel like a nice flow to me. Also, in Option 2 the counter space to the left of the stove seems not very usable, so it's even less counter space than it seems.
If you took Option 1 as a starting point, what if you pushed the table in the dining area towards one of the walls and have a bench seat against the wall (borrowing the setup from Option 2). With the bench lower than the table, you could leave the table pushed against the wall for more space, but then pull it away from the wall for more seating when you're entertaining. Also, I don't know what plants you already have that you need space for, but it looks like a lot of the plants in the mock up are on the floor. If you instead put some shelves up higher and put smaller potted plants along the shelves, that would still feel like you're surrounded by plants but would leave more room for the furniture.
Option 2 seems to excite you more when you speak about your ideas and how you want to use the space
Just an idea - on option B - loose the built in seating, put a counter there, for a breakfast bar, which would be able to double for a 'bar' with a party - bar seats tuck under, cabinets above, something interesting and different than the kitchen. The dinner table there is going to be a pinch point. The lounge table could be one of the converting/expanding tables that could handle 4 people, you have a basement for storage of the chairs as needed - if you keep the plants at the dining/lounge entrance less bushy or trimmed back (or move them for company, it would allow for lots of plants, particularly if you have some too.
if you had/have like a family with 3+ children the first one far superior. the second one is more you focused I think. I never had a seat among plants and hate not having enough counter space so I would prefer the first one. The amount of food storage would also be amazing for a ton of canning and having a small greenhouse with vegetables in the back.
All in all it’s your place I don’t think even two people could find a satisfactory compromise in this case 😅
Option 2 - the enjoyment you’ll get from your garden room is worth more than the additional counter space, more counter = more clutter 😁
My vote is option 2 with some adjustments! I'm a firm believer in designing and decorating your space for yourself not resale, and it sounds like you prioritize having a relaxation/plant space, so work around that. I do agree with some of the other commenters saying you could consider some adjustments in the kitchen space; maybe moving the fridge (check out counter depth fridges for more space saving!) to the right of the sink to try to get more pantry on the left. Personally, I'd definitely try to get as much panty/large space as possible, as thin storage doors/drawers can be very limiting. I'd also recommend checking out some tiny home videos for inspirations on how to utilize more hidden space and just generally maximize your kitchen area.
No 2! Much more homey, nice spaces to sit by. More harmony. Really like that.
I’m pretty sure you like it better as well :)
A nice gift to these guys who help you out is a sign book as a Christmas gift. Just a thought 😊
As a home a cook option 1 makes way more sense imo. I'd consider one of those crazy tables that can extend. I saw one on Instagram the other day that went from 3-seater to 10+ish. Also on the plants, would be interested in what your light is like in the front of the house? are you anticipating not having any plants in the living room by the front door?
If you do decide to go option 2, I'd add open shelves above the breakfast nook for storage. High enough that a tall person won't hit their head getting in and out the built in seating.
Definitely option 2.
First one passes the bottleneck, then opens up.
You Should use an expandable table. On the wall just a padded bench (with storage below) and probably a shelf high up.
The green loft behind seems to me essential for Your health and inner balance.
If I can propose a completely different idea; building on option 2, what if you eliminated the banquette and rotated the dining table 90 degrees and wedged it in the corner closer to the sunroom with 2-3 chairs surrounding it. Then on the other corner next to the stairs enclosure you could have a cabinet that's say 22" high nesting underneath a dining table height console. Finally opposite the fridge on the stairs enclosure wall you could have a second console but counter height to function as extra work surface. when wanting to host a big party (8ish) you could pull out the dining table to the middle of the kitchen, bush the 1st console up to it, lower the 2nd console and also pushing it up to them making a huge table all together and the storage cabinet can function as a bench
option 2:
1) The view from the lounge back to the front is a much better view.
2) Sink is closer to the stove (I found that having sink close to the stove is a life saver)
3) Above the dining table, you can use the beam to create a hanging systems for pots/pans saving more space
4) Creates a nice logical break from front of the house to the back of the house
Choose Option 1. More counterspace is usually a win. Your plants could be relocated to the living room, or dispersed throughout that living room to kitchen area.
Definetly Option 2!
It suites you better, you’ll be more comfortable with a big chair, plants and a cup of coffee. You’ll serve eight for dinner only so many times a year and the rest of the year you’ll have a big table serving as a ad hoc filing cabinet for junk.
#1 would get my vote. It feels more cohesive with the house size and shape.
You'll never regret more Kitchen Storage. You could maybe modify the back room design so that you get seats against the wall sort of like the nook in second option, with a ledge behind the booth seating for plants?
as someone who like to cook a lot having the fridge on the same plain as your cooking place flows really well
I like option one mainly because of the added kitchen storage and workspace. As for the dining area perhaps some funky shelves to put some of your plants on that right side wall. They don't all have to have floor space. That way you could free up more floor space for a bigger table. A round table might reduce some of that tunnelling effect as well. Love the series.
Going with option 1. I would want more kitchen on a regular basis with creative options on occasionally seating 8.
Kitchen option 1 seems less cramped to live with, and you could always still have plants around the dining table.
It seems like option 2 would generally for you better but the kitchen is very small. It would be interesting to look into some modular design elements that can help expand the space of surface area as you need. Boats and in particular narrow boats could be a good source for ideas
Option 2 is more interesting, enjoyable to the eyes. Thanks for taking us along.
I think im leaning towards option #1
I’d go with option 1. Just an idea to circumvent the dining space issue-get a table that expands, that way you can keep it smaller for everyday use and possibly expand for more seating when needed.
Absolutely option #1, you'll eventually regret #2. When you actually move into the dining room, you'll come up with a shelving design to fit the plants...you got this ;-)
I’m going to go with option 1 with suggestion of doing a banquette in the dining room. I think that doing so you could still have that lounge vibe with room for your plants.
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I definitely prefer option one. But is there a reason that you can’t have the dining area in the front room and your living area in the back room? I don’t feel like you need to shoehorn a table into your kitchen (as in option 2) when you have the front area where it seems like you would be able to fit a dining area on the left side opposite the stairs. And this way you would be able to enjoy the back room a lot more since I imagine you might get more use out of a comfortable living room with plants as opposed to a dining room. Just a thought.
Kitchen 2. instead of a table like this you could build your own table with the same countertop as the rest of the kitchen so you get a more unified look. also makes up for the lost counter space.
What if you do something completely different
Put the kitchen in front, the dinning area in the center and the living room in the back where it gets more light
Option 2 looks like it gives you future opportunities to change things out. If you at some future date decided you didn’t like the banquette you could remove it and install additional cabinets. Having the rear room reminds me of the Sun room in our house. I love sitting here with the plants and openness.
I think you need to plan for resale...always for resale even if you don't want to sell it....Would someone else want the storage and the dining area in the south? I would. Plants can go in other areas of the house. So Option 1 BTW Love the book...the images are lovely.
Option 1, keeping some of the old features will make the space feel great.
In both case, you have to go through the kitchen, so I would prefer option 1, as it is still possible to extend the dining table in the kitchen when there are many people for diner.
Def. the second kitchen design is more appeling to my eyes. It has cosier vibes and feels more like a relaxed space instead of the straight kitchen that feels like a fast moving river that ends in a pond with no beach to relax in. And in the second version the "extra room" will make it more lived in. just a dining area is left unused most times of the day. So second version would be it for me
Option 1, the tunnel, would be the way I'd go. Re: the galley kitchen, it looks like you've have space for a rolling cart/island that could be pushed out of the way when not needed. There's something really nice about having a surface right opposite the refrigerator to put stuff on as you take out what you'll need. The galley seems a tad wide for that. And then, to put stuff on as you use it to queue up to put back into the 'fridge. The dining table could be one with leaves to add, or even better, one where the leaves are integral to the table and don't need to be stored. They just flip up from underneath. With a couple nice dining chairs, it'll be just as nice as the lounge idea in option 2. BTW, $275 for all that debris removal is a great price.
We like Option #2 that includes the lounge area. Smiles!
I like option #1 for me because I like the large pantry and separate dining area. It would also be my choice if you were doing this just for resale. Option #2, however, seems to be more your style with a quiet garden spot for you and your plants. Having lived with a kitchen having limited counter space, keep in mind that the table can serve as counter space during meal prep. To deal with minimal pantry space, I had an industrial shelving unit in the basement which I used for occasional kitchen items like crock pot, pressure cooker, meat slicer, turkey roaster, huge soup pot, platters, etc. With all the work you will be doing, you could have an actual walk-in pantry in the basement and use the kitchen pantry for food items. #2 also gives you a bit more wall space in the living room which is actually nice to have.
My neighbor has basically option 1, but right in front of the oven between the kitchen and living room, theres a breakfast nook/bar. It works so well. I think this would solve your issue of having more sitting/dining space. You'll have separate tables, but youll have a larger capacity.
Just the two options as is, definitely option 1. I think you would regret sacrificing kitchen space for a larger dining space/lounge that you only use occasionally. You use your kitchen every day, multiple times per day.
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Thanks for your support! Hope you are enjoying the book (:
@ I am very much enjoying the book
Option 1. I would suggest that you could keep your chair in the dining room and use a round table that can be expanded for when you have guests.
Option 1. The triangle is a more sensible option and affords you the larger pantry space which is a huge plus.
To me, both plans have their merit, Chris. As a single guy and a nature lover, I would go for option two. I can envision many peaceful moments sitting among your plants drinking coffee. If you much enjoy cooking. And having guests over frequently, I’d go with option one. Overall, my own personal choice would be for option two. Happy holidays! Keep the vids coming. You’re such a talented, intelligent, creative. Architect!