Spent the last year messing around with throw balls and Paracord presets. I started using a tennis ball thrower for dogs. I cut a tennis ball open, fill it with scrap metal like washers or whatever I can find. Feed a piece of Paracord through it , tie it off. The wrap it once in duct tape. Into the dog ball thrower it goes. Gives me incredible distance, great precision, and is so easy on the shoulders for throwing (I have trouble throwing far) Just sharing how I get my ropes up in a tree.
That's cool. Thanks for sharing. I did some experimentation with different devices and techniques a long time ago. As you did, I concluded that a sphere was easiest to throw using an overhand throw. The disadvantages were: 1. I am not capable of throwing very high compared to what i can do with a pendulum throw. 2. When we need to pull it back after it went through other branches on its way down the other side, a ball gets stuck much more than a sleek or fish shaped object. Whatever works!
This was so good at explaining how to manage a throw line. I’m just learning how to srt and am looking forward to using my new skills this hunting season. I’m 68 and having fun with all of this. Thanks John for your willingness to share your knowledge.
When I started using a throwball, I was pretty inaccurate. Over time, I developed a way to hold and release it which had greater consistency. Now, I feel like any crotch is in my reach, and I even enjoy the challenge of getting some of the more difficult ones
Just finished my first real practice session with the throw ball and I am very excited to get better with it. I have a few points from an absolute beginner. I just bought the ball off Amazon so I started in an open field to get a feel for the throwing action and the weight first. This also gave me a chance to stretch the rope a little and get the kinks and twist out. John makes it look a lot easier than it is, but practice is the key. Keep your eyes on the ball when you are bringing it down out of the tree, it can drop easy or fly like a bullet if you are pulling it out of a branch. When in doubt of getting it stuck, just take it off the rope. I eventually learned to pile the rope by my feet in the reverse order it would follow the ball. The end furthest from the ball first, working towards the ball. John's suggestion to start lower and work your way higher is also helpful. After about 30 minutes I was getting much better, but more practice is the key. Thanks again, John.
Good comments. I am learning from you here too. It's difficult to remember everything I have learned over the years and i will get some of these points into future content.
Did several practice climbs over the weekend, just 20 foot climb, with neck strap and self tending setup, and without. Also practiced bypassing a limb. Quite the learning experience and getting confident for hunting season! I use a 16 oz ball also. I go back and forth with it changing ends/sides of the throw line , just by making a slip knot/loop for the ball, to get it where I want the climbing rope. Nice method of carrying you throw line, thanks for sharing. I like making a loop for the toss, gives me a smooth release. Good idea to detach the ball on retrieval of the line.
@@jrbtc works good for me with the 4-2-3, and keeps a pair of hitches handy for limb bypass. But it was nice without it too, with no limb to bypass. Once you get your preset cord in position it’s a breeze.
Killer video John. I feel very confident now that I can do these and find them come deer season when the time is right AND know I have a proven system. Many thanks! Kevin
Just picked up a weaver throwball Tuesday. Got out this morning and used it to preset a tree in my woods. Took a few throws and a little cursing but finally got it. Crotch is about 30ft. in a leaning tree with multiple trunks.
Great. You still should go find an easy tree and do some practice. Every errant throw is a chance to have an issue. There's nothing like playing cornhole and putting bag after bag in the hole... and this is the same way, with more downside for missing
@@jrbtc Definitely need practice all around. Great system though. Very quiet and fast. I foresee plenty of practice in the near future as I get out to public land and preset trees. Best of luck to you this coming season.
I throw on every hunt, at first it was rough but I got to be pretty good at it, it’s half being a good throw and half is being smart about where you’re throwing.
i throw a couple loops in my ring sometimes when i have a shorter throw but when i have an 80+’ throw i will put an alpine about 32” with about 5” in the loop and i will start my launch at the hip , its hard for beginners but ive been doing it for 45 years, i can hit a beer can at 80 ft , surprisingly after 10,000 throws i can hit a deer with a throw bag better than my bow lol
@@jrbtc i deleted my complicated explanation, i will take some measurements from my size , im 6’ so it can be made bigger or smaller it’s basically just pulling a long waist high loop through your ring on the throw ball and it gives you a place to put a finger or thumb through for grip and the ball will pull the loop out with its momentum, super simple and no knot loop for leverage, you should have 3 strands in your hand , two strands are a closed loop and one strand will be connected to the throw ball , make the loop the size you need to be able to swing that bag from your hip without touching the ground, or you can hit a rock and explode your shot all over the place , i’ve seen it with every method lol , i hope you can picture, master and pass this on , a fella down in florida taught me this when i was down in florida climbing/felling during hurricane andrew clean up in 91/92 , back when i used to spur trees barefooted and snapped limbs with my bare hands ( satire) just much younger 😄
Take your quick link off the throwball. Tie an overhand knot in the throw line big enough to fit the ball. Put the eye you tied through the metal ring and around the bottom of the bag. Girth hitch the ring. Less shit to get caught. Fulltime arborist here. Also, get some 2mm-5mm throw line. That stuff is to heavy, its slowing down the throw.
Thx Jesse. Appreciate your experience. I used to use and end loop and girth hitch, and its quick to remove, but i got it stuck once where a branch got caught inbetween the two strands of the girth hitch. I also tried using a small carabiner but got that caught too. Not a fan of a clove for this application either. One of my arb buddies prefers it. So far, the only thing which has never gotten stuck is a small quick link. I believe the yellow line is 3mm. I bought it at my local arb supply store.
Ha, no, there's a road probably 200yds away and that was probably a passing truck. But way to go with your attention to detail! That's a skill a hunter needs!
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Yes of course that's an option, but a saddle hunter doesn't climb more than 25 ft and there's nothing we can't hit with a one arm underhand toss. Of course, there's some practice necessary to develop the skill. Your choice.
Spent the last year messing around with throw balls and Paracord presets. I started using a tennis ball thrower for dogs. I cut a tennis ball open, fill it with scrap metal like washers or whatever I can find. Feed a piece of Paracord through it , tie it off. The wrap it once in duct tape. Into the dog ball thrower it goes. Gives me incredible distance, great precision, and is so easy on the shoulders for throwing (I have trouble throwing far)
Just sharing how I get my ropes up in a tree.
That's cool. Thanks for sharing. I did some experimentation with different devices and techniques a long time ago. As you did, I concluded that a sphere was easiest to throw using an overhand throw. The disadvantages were: 1. I am not capable of throwing very high compared to what i can do with a pendulum throw. 2. When we need to pull it back after it went through other branches on its way down the other side, a ball gets stuck much more than a sleek or fish shaped object. Whatever works!
This was so good at explaining how to manage a throw line. I’m just learning how to srt and am looking forward to using my new skills this hunting season. I’m 68 and having fun with all of this. Thanks John for your willingness to share your knowledge.
When I started using a throwball, I was pretty inaccurate. Over time, I developed a way to hold and release it which had greater consistency. Now, I feel like any crotch is in my reach, and I even enjoy the challenge of getting some of the more difficult ones
Just finished my first real practice session with the throw ball and I am very excited to get better with it. I have a few points from an absolute beginner. I just bought the ball off Amazon so I started in an open field to get a feel for the throwing action and the weight first. This also gave me a chance to stretch the rope a little and get the kinks and twist out. John makes it look a lot easier than it is, but practice is the key. Keep your eyes on the ball when you are bringing it down out of the tree, it can drop easy or fly like a bullet if you are pulling it out of a branch. When in doubt of getting it stuck, just take it off the rope. I eventually learned to pile the rope by my feet in the reverse order it would follow the ball. The end furthest from the ball first, working towards the ball. John's suggestion to start lower and work your way higher is also helpful. After about 30 minutes I was getting much better, but more practice is the key. Thanks again, John.
Good comments. I am learning from you here too. It's difficult to remember everything I have learned over the years and i will get some of these points into future content.
I forgot to mention: I prefer a 16oz throwball.
Hey folks, 3mm throw line is what John said he's using here (in a reply).
Did several practice climbs over the weekend, just 20 foot climb, with neck strap and self tending setup, and without. Also practiced bypassing a limb. Quite the learning experience and getting confident for hunting season! I use a 16 oz ball also. I go back and forth with it changing ends/sides of the throw line , just by making a slip knot/loop for the ball, to get it where I want the climbing rope. Nice method of carrying you throw line, thanks for sharing. I like making a loop for the toss, gives me a smooth release. Good idea to detach the ball on retrieval of the line.
I am not sure very many are using the neckstrap option as it had limited appeal but glad it's working for u.
@@jrbtc works good for me with the 4-2-3, and keeps a pair of hitches handy for limb bypass. But it was nice without it too, with no limb to bypass. Once you get your preset cord in position it’s a breeze.
Killer video John. I feel very confident now that I can do these and find them come deer season when the time is right AND know I have a proven system. Many thanks! Kevin
Appreciate that ... u got me thinking, i probably should do a video on finding your tree in the dark!
Just picked up a weaver throwball Tuesday. Got out this morning and used it to preset a tree in my woods. Took a few throws and a little cursing but finally got it. Crotch is about 30ft. in a leaning tree with multiple trunks.
Great. You still should go find an easy tree and do some practice. Every errant throw is a chance to have an issue. There's nothing like playing cornhole and putting bag after bag in the hole... and this is the same way, with more downside for missing
@@jrbtc Definitely need practice all around. Great system though. Very quiet and fast. I foresee plenty of practice in the near future as I get out to public land and preset trees. Best of luck to you this coming season.
Absolute great presentation
Appreciate that! Practice your technique on an easy tree and it will pay off when working a tough one!
I throw on every hunt, at first it was rough but I got to be pretty good at it, it’s half being a good throw and half is being smart about where you’re throwing.
45 years ago we went to kmart got some pheasant loads, clothes line , a kids tube sock and some duct tape lol
Some great idea's. Thank you
i throw a couple loops in my ring sometimes when i have a shorter throw but when i have an 80+’ throw i will put an alpine about 32” with about 5” in the loop and i will start my launch at the hip , its hard for beginners but ive been doing it for 45 years, i can hit a beer can at 80 ft , surprisingly after 10,000 throws i can hit a deer with a throw bag better than my bow lol
I can't exactly picture what you are describing here, but I am certain i have something to learn from ya if I could visualize it.
@@jrbtc i deleted my complicated explanation, i will take some measurements from my size , im 6’ so it can be made bigger or smaller it’s basically just pulling a long waist high loop through your ring on the throw ball and it gives you a place to put a finger or thumb through for grip and the ball will pull the loop out with its momentum, super simple and no knot loop for leverage, you should have 3 strands in your hand , two strands are a closed loop and one strand will be connected to the throw ball , make the loop the size you need to be able to swing that bag from your hip without touching the ground, or you can hit a rock and explode your shot all over the place , i’ve seen it with every method lol , i hope you can picture, master and pass this on , a fella down in florida taught me this when i was down in florida climbing/felling during hurricane andrew clean up in 91/92 , back when i used to spur trees barefooted and snapped limbs with my bare hands ( satire) just much younger 😄
What’s the best knot to tie the quick link with?
Scaffold knot. See:
jrbtreeclimbing.com/content/favorite-knots/
Take your quick link off the throwball. Tie an overhand knot in the throw line big enough to fit the ball. Put the eye you tied through the metal ring and around the bottom of the bag. Girth hitch the ring. Less shit to get caught. Fulltime arborist here. Also, get some 2mm-5mm throw line. That stuff is to heavy, its slowing down the throw.
Also go buy some Dmm xsre carabiner. Tiny little things that are weight rated to 900lbs. Half the weight of those quick links
Thx Jesse. Appreciate your experience. I used to use and end loop and girth hitch, and its quick to remove, but i got it stuck once where a branch got caught inbetween the two strands of the girth hitch. I also tried using a small carabiner but got that caught too. Not a fan of a clove for this application either. One of my arb buddies prefers it. So far, the only thing which has never gotten stuck is a small quick link. I believe the yellow line is 3mm. I bought it at my local arb supply store.
Was that a deer in the background at the very beginning??
Ha, no, there's a road probably 200yds away and that was probably a passing truck. But way to go with your attention to detail! That's a skill a hunter needs!
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Dude.... slingshot. I know for a fact arborists use em.
Yes of course that's an option, but a saddle hunter doesn't climb more than 25 ft and there's nothing we can't hit with a one arm underhand toss. Of course, there's some practice necessary to develop the skill. Your choice.