4 WAYS to Use Your GARMIN EDGE With Your Smart Bike Trainer
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GARMIN Edge is a great bike computer to use when cycling outdoors. It's also good to use indoors with your smart trainer. In this video, I will walk you through how to pair your Garmin Edge device to your smart bike trainer and four different ways to use your Garmin Edge bike computer with your indoor smart bike trainer.
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Do you use your Garmin Edge indoors with your smart bike trainer?
SMART Bike Trainers yes I run my Edge 1030 with Xert player to do the workout. ANT+ connection over Bluetooth! #wethefollowerswantsthatcap
hello! can you help me to connect the garmin to tacx training app? i want to ride some custom gps routes from that app and I can't find how to connect the app...the trainer is connected to garmin but what should I do?
You can’t connect Garmin to Tacx training app. You need to connect your trainer to Tacx app
@@SmartBikeTrainers I know this, but Garmin won't show the grade, just power, HR, cadence and speed(cuz I got the sensors)
@@SmartBikeTrainers isn't it possible to install the app on Garmin? like Strava Routes
Great vid as always. Another vote to see how you can re create an outdoor route indoors using a Garmin. We have Kickrs 2018's and Garmin 1000/1030. Thank you for everything you do!
Exactly what I was looking for - thank you!
Thanks for sharing this as I had no idea this was possible 👍
SMART Bike Trainers, yes, I used my Garmin 530 with my Wahoo Kickr SNAP. I either go off of Erg mode or manually adjust to simulate courses I have ridden because the courses ridden option coupled with the SNAP does not replicate my numbers out on the actual course. Great content, Sir!
i keep coming back to this video. thanks
Thanks for the video. It is what I needed.
thx for sharing:) although your video is already 2+ years old it helps to compensate the leak of Garmins basic information inside the box of a newly bought tacx
Well call me an idiot. All these years I've had the 830 and a Tacx Neo I did not know I could be recording those rides done on the trainer to add to my total tally of rides and miles in RWGPS. I just saw this video today, sorry I don't follow, because I don't use subscription apps and I thought that's all you was about. Thanks for the details and you earned a like from me.
Thank you for this video!
Very nice and clear explanation!
Great video! Keen to see you do the video on a Garmin Edge (i have an 820) using outdoor routes inside connected to a smart trainer. Looking at using this to train for an Ironman that will be held in another state. Thanks in advance
Cool video! Yes, I'm interested in seeing other ways to ride a course on an indoor trainer AND preferably paired to a video that was also shot from the course. win win... not boring. :)
3 APPS To Recreate Outdoor Rides Indoor With Your Smart Trainer th-cam.com/video/7JBf0xfSfAc/w-d-xo.html
show, video simples e muito explicativo, sensacional. Parabens pelo trabalho.
I just found your video, thanks for sharing this great information.
Very good video ! Thanks
The info I was looking for. Thanks. BTW. I would like to se a video showing rhe best way to redo a track indoors
I will look into it
Awesome video
Super intéressant, merci !
Hi,
Many thanks for the video. I have a Wahoo Kickr and a pair of Vector 2. How do I make a workout using erg mode and record cycling dynamics? What I want is the trainer to make the resistance and read the speed, while the pedals read cadence and power (L/R balance). Is that possible?
very useful
great thx.
When doing a TrainingPeaks workout, how do you toggle between ERG and slope mode, going back and forth for different parts of the workout? Is it just setting it to grade and target power?
I have tried to re-ride courses indoors using my Edge to control the trainer (Tacx Neo), but as you mention it is not very good. Also, I find the transitions between grades extremely harsh (very different from actual ride). If you have a better way to do this I would love to hear it for winter training and rainy days.
I paired my garmin edge 830 with a kickr and started the FTP test on the edge unit as mentioned in the video. The warm start with the kickr at a low resistance. Then when the first power zone interval began the kickr resistance started to increase and carried on increasing taking the power way above the power zone for that interval. I tried restarted the test 3 times and the same thing happened. Have you any idea why this happening?
This is very useful. I really appreciate it. I am still lost on how to create a Training Plan on my Garmin (Edge 520+)
make a trainingplan in garmin connect? it will sync with your edge
Question 1: If I pair Rotor 2InPower as Power meter and Kickr as Trainer simultaneously to my Edge 520 Plus and follow TP workout, does Edge do “power match” automatically in the background? i.e. reading power from my Rotor and adjust ERG on Kickr.
Question 2: There are 2 ways to start the TP workout, one from calendar or my workouts, and one from Indoor Trainer Mode. Are there differences in terms of workout execution and experience depending on where you start the workout?
Question 3: Kickr has ERG speed simulation you can set up in Wahoo app, does that “simulated” speed data gets broadcasted to Edge during workout?
I am VERY interested in making the most out of my Garmin 530 Edge and my Wahoo Kickr...
I really want to See a Video whats your way to Re ride a course. I tried my house Route in my edge 520 and Yeah it sucks. Want to ride some Tour de France Mountains on my edge. I only use the garmin for recovery Workout otherwise i use zwift, rgt etc.
Thanks for this. Once I update from 810 to 1040
pls do a vid on the alternatives
Great video! Is there a way to switch between ERG and free-mode during the workout? Typically for a workout mixing interval blocks with VO2 max sprints.
So far as I can tell, no. I ended up *disconnecting* my head unit from my trainer, and setting the trainer into resistance mode (where it obviously stays for the entire w/o). Would be great if you could program resistance mode for each step through the head unit...
Hello, in case of folow a workout in TP, is possible to disable EGR mode? in this case, increase resistense to be on power interval, jus like if i train in the road. thanks
With a lot of better technology advances in watches do you think it's still worth getting an Edge? For example my 745 can pair with the smart trainer and control resistance power etc from my watch. Appreciate it!
Can the head unit take power readings from a power meter (power pedals) and use that number to manipulate erg mode in the trainer?
I am thinking about buying a Wahoo Kickr and my bike computer is a Garmin Edge 520 Plus but I am not sure if I can ride routes from my Edge on the Kickr? Do I have to use routes from a Wahoo Element etc. to do that?
2:29 too bad about the map not getting updated, on my old Wahoo Bolt the map was dynamic !
I've been using my 830 just to record some rides that I do on the trainer so they can be uploaded to RWGPS. I have a NEO trainer and I still use the TTS4 software for my rides but since there is no way to upload from the software directly I use the 830 as a work around. I record distance, power, time, cadence, etc but not elevation. Also what's weird is the distance is not the same. The Garmin will fall behind what the course actually is. The longer the course the more that gap gets. If I ride 20 miles on the trainer the Garmin will only report around 18.5 miles. I don't know why that is. But at lease my ride history in RWGPS shows I did something on that day.
Hi, I may have missed it on the video but is it possible to download/ sync recent outdoor rides for simulated indoor workouts similar to garmin? Is it also possible to control a trainer via erg mode? Thanks!
Nice video, thanks! I'm trying to do this with my Garmin Fenix 5X, but can't seem to find the indoor trainer connection screen. Do you know if the Fenix has smart trainer (i.e. Kickr) control/connect function?
+David Smith No, it does not. Only the Edge series has smart trainers support.
Will the kickr climb sync and simulate gradient on a pre planned komoot route synced to my wahoo trainer via a garmin head unit or does the climb only simulate gradient when used with a app such as swift? (I dnt use swift)
How can I use the Letape du Tour de France route to train indoors on my Wahoo Kickr and the Garmin edge 1030?
Could this be used to replace the Joule 3.0 to control the Cycleops 400 pro bike?
Hi
Why do you much prefer Resistance mode over any other trading mode in this application?
Cameron
Hello I have a question: I connect my Edge 830 as you said as Smart Trainer with my Tacx Neo. If I start a Target Power training it works more or less (not really accurate to the set power) and somehow alle 3-5 mins it increase the power for just a second for a huge amount and after this second everything is normal again. Do you know of this problem? Its really annoying because it breaks your cadence rhythm so much :( and I don't know how to fix it
Hi Tariq, I have been trying to figure out a way to get my trainer to simulate my saved courses on my Garmin 1030. I plan to use your method and hope it works as I haven't been able to make it simulate my course difficulty in the past. You said you had some ideas on how to make it better and I would love if you made an update video on this topic if you can. Thanks for the great content.
Hi, I’ve done a few videos on recreating rides. Years later and not much changed.
th-cam.com/video/7JBf0xfSfAc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=qwX6qSHane3gR-vB
Great video, I struggled to pair my Edge with a Saris trainer - ends up i did not press the add sensor button to complete the pairing!! Thank you for your help
Glad it was helpful. Thanks for watching 🙏🏼
my kicker can simualte de watts of the training in erg mode , and my power source can be my Vectors ?
Thank you for the video.
Can I setup the 530 with the Warhol Kicker to keep me riding all the time in my Zone 2 ?
Yes you should be able to set your zone 2 watts and ride in erg mode. Garmin should keep you at your specified watts.
Hi Tariq. Love your videos. After using Zwift for the last 3 years, I'm trying out some different options for indoor training. A couple of years ago I tried using my Garmin 520+ with the option to re-ride a course and found that the gradient just didn't work very well. It's been a couple of years since I last tried, so about time to give it another go. I was wondering if you have seen any improvements to Garmin's indoor features since you did this video?
Very pertinent question. I share your curiosity. After all, was this video made by our noble broadcaster? He raised the possibility of doing so. It would be excellent to train efficiently on the courses we usually do.
Hi there. Can this be done with the 810?
Tariq, any video on using the Edge 830 with the Kickr Bike? Thanks a lot!
Didn’t make one specifically for the 830 but should be very similar.
Great video Tariq, as always. I have the Garmin Edge 1030 Plus and have set up my training data screens the same as in your video. My question is specific to the StagesBike SB20. I have not been successful in having the Garmin drive a workout on my StagesBike. I have connected it as my ANT+ trainer, and I go into workouts and choose a workout. Can you confirm either directly or via your network whether my SB20 should follow a workout coming from my 1030P?
Hmm… that’s strange. The bike uses both ANT+ FE-C and Bluetooth FTMS controllable trainer profiles so your Garmin shouldn’t have an issue controlling it. Have you tried manually changing the resistance using your Garmin?
Hi, i have a tacx flux 2 and garmin egde 830, when use a wokout mode, the distance and velocity is low, example i go with 200 W and the velocity says 30 km/h. my weight = 63 kg, bike weight = 7 kg.
Great vid Tariq, many thanks ! Do you have any idea why my Flux 2 isn't following the power as per the workout that is on my Edge 830 and isn't showing any power figure at all, just 0 ? Thanks a lot for responding !
Sounds like the trainer isn’t paired to Garmin Edge properly. It should at least broadcast power. Did you pair it as a trainer to the edge?
Is posdible to add cadence to garmin training screen?// Workout mode
Hi, I'm hoping you can help or guide me. I use the edge explore 2 and I've been able to pair it to my Saris m2 and load a gpx file course to follow. The problem I have is the ascent profile doesn't change from +1 or +2 when I'm doing a hill climb. And i've tested it on hills that have a 6 or higher % grade. Any ideas what I'm doing wrong? or is this a limitation of the garmin? Thank you in advance for any help. Ren
Which is the one big company that does not display/record cadence??
I bought a tacx bike trainer, and I'm busy trying to set it up. Great video, very useful. Thanks Tariq 🙏
Wahoo, but they fixed that with their latest software update!
Hi. I can not change the resistance from my 530 to kickr..I set 80% for example, and still 0% sensation. But the climb % and the target work. I dont understand?
Con garmin edge 130 se puede hacer? Y garmin f 920xt?
How can i use my garmin device and in parallel a SW like Zwift? But i want to record my workout with my garmin device, otherwise the workout does not count for the garmin challenges.
This working with all trainer ? I have wahoo kickr and see a power, but any two side communication not working:/
Thank you for the Video! Can I use Zwift and still use my Garmin to record the training at the same time? Would be great if you could help me out!
I want to know to.
HirpoTV ϟ Am hoping to find out too.
Set up sync (or "export") from Zwift (to Garmin Connect, Strava and others).
My Garmin 530 won’t pair with my kinetic road trainer 2. I have the kinetic app . Will this interfere with my Garmin pairing with my smart trainer?
For some reason my Wahoo sensors won't connect and tried on my Edge 530 & 520 Plus any ideas ?
Nice video! Is there a way to do a workout from TrainingPeaks on my edge 820 and smart trainer with erg mode off? It’s very easy on Zwift (just turn the erg button off) but can’t find a way to do that on my garmin edge 820... I would appreciate some help here. Thanks
Not really. The only way that I know off is by not loading a workout and do it on resistance mode. If you load a workout it will set to erg mode automatically.
Thanks 👍
Do you know if you can connect a Garmin watch to do the Garmin suggested workout on a Zwift Route ?
You can use some Garmin watches to control your smart trainer. I would just pair the trainer directly to the watch and let it control the trainer. Pair your trainer to Zwift as power and cadence only and leave out the “Controllable”.
Hi Tariq, helpfull video. Thanks for everything. I Have a question for you. I have started to use my edge 830 with tacx flux s on a route that I wish to train myself for the spring rides. It works fine and it saves to Strava as well. The question is: the route map and climb values do not show in Strava. Is there a way to do it ?
Thanks in Advance
David Maden
Unfortunately not that I know off. Garmin will send the data as an indoor ride without a map or elevation to Strava.
@@SmartBikeTrainers thanks for the quick reply
just purchased the wahoo kickr core for mtb and wanted to know if you would ever use your garmen in conjunction with zwift of other third party apps? thank for the informative vid.
Sometimes I do just to be able to display more data such as NP and AP for each lap. Also, I use my Garmin to record power from other power meter devices when testing power meters. Other than that, I just rely on Zwift or TR or whatever app I’m using to capture all my data.
@@SmartBikeTrainers thanks for the quick response.
The edge 830 is not picking up the cadence and speed from my wahoo kicker.
Hi Tariq, do you know if there is the possibility that the Garmin Edge 130 plus, will show cycling dinamycs and other metrics like NP, etc... someday? - Thank you
Via a firmware update? I don’t think that will happen
How about grade? 2 peecent on Edge feels more diffocult than Level 2 on wahoo app
My wahoo kickr core 2021 has cadence
I note this is a few years old… do you think the ‘follow a route’ function is better now?!
Am going to give it a go so gf and I can ride same routes in pain cave!
No it is not any better and wouldn’t personally use it. I recommend using Wahoo RGT, ROUVY, or Bkool if you want to create your own route.
good video, but unfortunately this is not possible for garmin edge explore
HI i have a set of Garmin Rally XC pedals, i know i can connect them to zwift, but as far as i am aware zwift does not record the cycling dynamics,, is there any indoor trainer platforms that do? thanks
Not really. However, you can record your ride on a Garmin device and display all the cycling dynamics info on Garmin connect.
I semi always , since don't regularly use 530 indoors , forget that it doesn't matter what you do with the menu buttons if you don't pick INDOOR out of profile with top right button you will not be able to re ride a route ...!!!
one day ill be able to remember how to avoid it wanting to send you back to start on an outdoor course , if you leave it by it 50 cm
I am using Wahoo Kicker & Rouvy. Is there any additional benefits connecting the Garmin 530/540 ?
Not really other than having a backup in case you run into issues with ROUVY or it crashes.
Have you had any chance to try indoor training with the wahoo gps? Which brand provides the best overall experience for indoor training?
+Dennis Manalo I should have my Wahoo Element Roam review out soon but overall, Wahoo GPS Element or Element Bolt offer a much better indoor training experience and smart trainer control.
SMART Bike Trainers can’t wait for the video tariq. Keep up the good work!
Does it work with the latest garmin edge explore? Or can you only use the sensors?
+BJ Van Staey I don’t believe so. The Explore doesn’t have smart trainers support.
Hey, can i pair my 530 with the elite qubo power mag smart trainer? (Not the digital)
Smart b+? If it broadcasts in ant+ then you should be able to pair it but it won’t be interactive.
Does Garmin edge 530 work the same way as you explained for saris m2 smart trainer?
Yes, it should work with the M2
Hi, is it possible to connect my pedals to Zwift,& use my smart trainer on my Garmin 830 for dual power recording?
Yes, I do that all the time when testing trainers. I usually connect the my trainer to Zwift and pedals to garmin to record both powers.
"if you're looking for something really boring....then give this a try". I dropped my phone while laughing. Lol. Good video, thanks
What big company doesn't broadcast cadence?
Can i connect Neo 2t to Zwift and than to edge 530 as a trainer or if connected to Zwift I need to connect it as speed/cadence/power sensors to the edge?
You should be able to connect it as a trainer. But the only issue with that, your Edge might try to control your trainer and might present some issues for you. Best to connect it as a power meter and speed/cadence sensor.
What about calibration ?
So today i really thought i had it all figured out, but no. i cannot get my 530 Edge to adjust the resistance automatically on my Saris Hammer3, like it does when using Zwift. I have connected it as an indoor trainer, with the help of your vid above, but was so disappointed to see it does not automatically adjust the resistance. i created a workout in Garmin connect with Primary target set to a specific hr Zone and secondary target as a power zone. every step then has its own Primary and secondary target. Although the 530 displayed the power, the resistance field showed a 0% trainer resistance value. Do i have to adjust this manually with every step then.....
Hmm… I wonder if it has something to do with the way you setup the workout in Garmin. You might want to try setting the primary target to be your power instead of hr. See if that works.
The picture in 4:29, can you add cadance? I have a training from Trainingpeaks and it shows only watt and time ☹️
Unfortunately that screen isn’t customizable so you are limited to what’s displayed.
Quick side question: Which mount is that for your Edge 530? That doesn't look stock. Thanks!
That's the KOM Garmin mount: amzn.to/2XyAdl9
@@SmartBikeTrainers Just curious why you use this mount vs. stock? I've also been pointed towards the K Edge mounts. Thoughts? and thanks in advance!
No reason other than I like how it looks. I find the Garmin stock mount to be a little bulky. I also have the k-edge and like it. I will probably go back to the k-edge because I can switch between the Element and Garmin and has the GoPro mount as well. KOM offers wahoo Elements attachments and GoPro as well, I just don’t have them.
Tariq do use this with inside ride and their new smart trainer
+Srinivas Kolla Yea I have used it with InsideRide smart unit. It works the same as any other smart trainer.
I’m using my Edge 530 with a Kickr and am having some issues. I built a workout in trainingpeaks specifically with set power TARGETS not RANGES so that erg mode wouldn’t allow a wide range of power. When I got on the bike however the Garmin shows a range with 10% on either side of the power target. I’m trying to ride at the target at ~90rpm. To increase cadence, I’ve spun up to 90, which always brings me to the top of or above the range. However it then stays at the top of the range, and I’m unable to hold 90rpm at the power I want. How can I fix this?
Garmin Edge will give you ranges to stay at but generally will keep you at your target. Try to get into your cadence before you enter the interval and it should keep you at your target.
Is ist able to control the trainer with an edge explore device?
I would also like to know
I am using Zwift training with synchronized Garmin 530, but the speed and gradient that Garmin displays are not from Zwift. Is there a way to synchronize those readings?
You will need to load the Zwift course onto garmin and ride it alongside Zwift. But then the speed will be off because of the difference in algorithm between the two. So you really can’t do it and have both be synced.
Why does Garmin show a range of power (to avoid writing power ranger) and not the prescribed workout power? Will garmin still track the target power in ERG mode or is it up to us to match the power?
Unfortunately there is no target power field to display in Garmin but It will keep you at your target power. So if you prescribe workout target for the interval is 200 watts, the Edge will work to keep you there. Just keep your cadence smooth and consistent.
Hi, Thank you for your videos!! 😊
I have an issue when I want to do one custom training :
after one minute, the power of the Tacx neo2T drop down; I have to push on the - or + target power, then it's good again ...for one minute 😪 . And sometime,when I push on - or +, the Edge switch from power target to 100% HT RES, and the same issue every minute...
I've try With my edge 1030 and 1030plus, same problem.
Garmin help seems ton have no solution.
Some idea?
Best regards.
Pierre
Are you following a workout that your unit downloaded?
@@SmartBikeTrainers
Yes, it's a custom workout that I've written on Garmin connect and synchronised on my Edge 1030/1030plus
Hey Tariq! Quick question for you. Do you notice any difference in trainer responsiveness between your edge controlling erg mode via loaded workouts versus a training app like Trainerroad controlling it via ant+ or BT? I find my trainer lags too much on short 5 second sprint intervals and by the time I reach the correct power the interval is already over. I know I can do manual resistance changes for these but I would love to use erg mode if loading the workouts on edge is a possibly better solution. Thank you!
The responsiveness depends on your trainer and how soon the trainer gets information from the controlling app/device. I didn’t do a comparison between the two, but TrainerRoad sends interval information a few seconds earlier where Garmin doesn’t.
@@SmartBikeTrainers Ahhh yes! Didn't consider the TR sending the command early. Thank you!
Hi there, have a new 1030 and trying to connect with a Wahoo Kicker. Have tried endless number of times to get the speed and distance to show up. Cadence does but not speed and distance. Any ideas?
Did you pair it as a trainer?
will a forerunner 945 support indoor training like your edge?
+Hailey Hartford No it doesn’t
Have tried a Training Peaks Workout with my Garmin 830 connected to a Tacx Neo. The problem I find is that if you drop your cadence then the resistance increases to maintain the required power and the slower you pedal the higher the resistance. It then becomes really difficult if not impossible to get the cadence back up again. Any suggestions on dealing with this?
This is how ERG mode works. The trainer will try to keep you at your target watts regardless of your cadence. If you spin slow, the trainer will compensate for the loss of power from your cadence by increasing resistance to keep you at your target. So you have to keep your cadence up otherwise you will keep running into this. This article might help you understand it better: www.smartbiketrainers.com/erg-mode-use-2683
@@SmartBikeTrainers Thanks for this - I was doing intervals at my FTP so may look at not running a workout so that it doesn't control the resistance
This is helpful. This happened to me on a ride too. How can I turn off the ERG mode so that I can follow the Training Peaks workout I uploaded to my Garmin 530? I gradually increase my speed, cadence and power over my tempo intervals and don't want it artificially dictated to me