Indoor Cycling Smart Trainers: ERG Mode Explained

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  • If you do an indoor cycling workout with a smart trainer, you may have the option to use ERG mode. ERG mode is available on select smart trainers and sets the resistance to a specific wattage target instead of basing it on the course gradient (SIM mode). This video will take you though exactly what ERG mode is, how it works, and provides a number of tips of how to best make use of ERG mode to avoid the 'spiral of death'.
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  • @petera.cheung8657
    @petera.cheung8657 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thanks for explaining "spiral of death" - I almost gave up on erg mode until you explained how to deal with it

  • @MrHellothisisme
    @MrHellothisisme ปีที่แล้ว +5

    watching this in 2023 makes me realise how much quieter smart trainers have become. And they were already the quieter alternative to regular trainer 😃

  • @tecnocato
    @tecnocato 6 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Tricky bit that some miss is that power is a unit of work (force times distance) per unit of time (Nm/s, Watts, etc.). The faster you pedal with the same output power, the less force you exert on the pedals (easier on muscles) but you exert that lower force on the pedals more times per minute. That is why higher rpm's are better for endurance even though the power output is the same. Higher rpm = less muscle stress (less force) for any given power output. This is, of course, over-simplified as other factors and limits are present. Thank​ you for explaining that ERG mode!

    • @441milachik
      @441milachik ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That is Well know even in outdoor training that Higher rpm are better for endurance (heart) and lower rpm for muscle.

  • @Skillest
    @Skillest 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    THANK YOU!!! new to Zwift and Wahoo... had no idea what was going on.

  • @allanjarvis3400
    @allanjarvis3400 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    First ERG workout today on Zwift. Without your excellent video I wouldn't have had a clue what I was doing. Thank you.

  • @tqubed
    @tqubed 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I've hit the spiral of death in ERG mode on zwift. Couldn't finish the interval. This video was very useful.

  • @sprintkick9793
    @sprintkick9793 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Been on Zwift for almost 2 years and finally did a workout. I experienced the spiral of death just didn’t know the name. So glad I watched this.

  • @denisfaure-brac2403
    @denisfaure-brac2403 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You are just an encyclopedia for indoor training! Quality video as always thanks for sharing.

  • @davidsembiante7348
    @davidsembiante7348 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Really appreciate your videos and what you do for all of us. Thanks!

  • @bowlegbiker1720
    @bowlegbiker1720 6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    This is an awesome video, man. I was getting very frustrated with my trainer because of the “spiral of death”. Didn’t know it was the ERG mode causing this. I’ll be turning it off from now on.

  • @hilltophigh
    @hilltophigh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Still useful nearly 3 years later, thanks!

  • @tozzyelyse4846
    @tozzyelyse4846 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This guy is so clear and thorough his videos are great!

  • @2wheels42
    @2wheels42 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great demonstration Shane. I had been planning to learn all about ERG mode and you explained it perfectly.

  • @dobsonscott
    @dobsonscott 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant video and explanation of how to deal with the higher power intervals.

  • @joelterwilliger9901
    @joelterwilliger9901 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Shane, great explanation. Truly appreciate the effort you put into making these videos. Keep up the good work. Now I know to attack the power increases, and ride through the power downs at the end of the interval. Cheers.

  • @miguelsuarez1511
    @miguelsuarez1511 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The most comprehensive erg mode explanation out there. Good work as usual.

  • @SonofGalahad
    @SonofGalahad 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fantastic explanation of ERG mode - thanks again for taking the time do such great content.

  • @jamesconnelly4690
    @jamesconnelly4690 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome explanation. This has helped me out quite a bit to get ERG mode understood Thanks for your demonstration and very good tutorial.

  • @rsmenton
    @rsmenton 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Clear, simple and well-explained. Cheers for that!

  • @alayeto1
    @alayeto1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank so much for this video, it explains all of the issues experience when decreasing cadence and even shifting into the largest cog and having to power through at 60rpms

  • @barbarahough2747
    @barbarahough2747 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Fantastic Video - Short and sweet and to the point. Excellent job describing and demonstrating.

  • @timgraves4209
    @timgraves4209 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As always, Excellent Video. Thank you! Just what I needed!

  • @KatieKookaburra
    @KatieKookaburra 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Your vids are just so good!! Everything I needed answering!

  • @jamesd688
    @jamesd688 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great vid, complex subject with top tips explained simply.

  • @jurestiplosek3018
    @jurestiplosek3018 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is really important video, for everyone do trainings on erg mode.
    Thanks

  • @ccmp23
    @ccmp23 5 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    😂 So glad I watched this video after doing my 1st workout on Zwift yesterday, inadvertently in ERG mode, and having 790W intervals thrown at me! At least I now fully understand and appreciate the spiral of death!

    • @justinbutler3465
      @justinbutler3465 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Haha, the same thing happened to me last night!

  • @szabiakanich
    @szabiakanich 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This video just randomly came up again in my recommended section and I watched it again (for the 3rd or 4th time in the past year). Such a GREAT video and absolutely spot on explanation of what ERG mode is and how it works. One of your best videos for sure. Good stuff. Also, respect for just jumping up to 600 watts casually and holding it there :)

  • @anamaospina123
    @anamaospina123 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh finally someone who can explain ERG mode clearly!!!! Thank you so much Shane! :)

  • @_cyclist_
    @_cyclist_ 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    What a great explanation, thank you! Took me a night of frustrated googling to find your video. Saved me from unnecesarilly messing with my settings. Attacking at the start, keep pedaling at the end and let ERG do the rest!
    Thanks again!

  • @pauldcullen
    @pauldcullen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Brilliant tips Shane - had my first Zwift workout last night with my new KICKR snap and what you describe is exactly what happened!!

  • @JustinDoesTriathlon
    @JustinDoesTriathlon 6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Seriously freaking useful video man, thanks a ton. New to your channel and new to erg training. My days of aimlessly riding out on the roads are done; too many junk hours and close calls with vehicles. Last time I checked out smart trainers (before college) they didn't have an inch on what these can do today.

  • @SaffaGreg
    @SaffaGreg 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    VERY VERY helpful video! Glad I stumbled across it because I'm fairly new to Zwift (on Tacx Vortex) and have been struggling to figure out what's been going on with ERG and Spiral of Death! Thanks!

  • @dusty_rhodes
    @dusty_rhodes 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Perfect subject Shane'o. I had tried ERG mode and gave up because I didn't understand it. You're a wizard!! Thanks 🙏🏽

  • @FreeGoeland
    @FreeGoeland 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent videos, Shane. Thanks! your videos are pretty much the reason I bought the wahoo kickr and signed up for Zwift... And I am loving it! Thanks again from Corsica. ;)

  • @jamiemiceli7911
    @jamiemiceli7911 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is great! I fell into the spiral of death the other day on my Neo and it freaked me out. Thought the trainer was messed up. This really helps! Thanks

  • @creativechimp03
    @creativechimp03 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is by far the clearest video I have seen on ERG mode, lots of other videos I found confusing! Thanks Shane.

  • @hdhindsa
    @hdhindsa 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Shane you are one of the few people on the planet, like Maria Popova of Brainpickings, who has an amazing impact on so many people through social media. Thank you for all your educational material!!!!

  • @daelpixphotography
    @daelpixphotography 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Always brilliant, informative videos. Thank you

  • @daghylin
    @daghylin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Excellent explanation. Just got a Wahoo Kickr Snap. All new to this. Experienced spiral of death today both up and down. Thought something was wrong with my trainer. Now I know. Thank you!

  • @andy372
    @andy372 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Who the heck gives 2 thumbs down to this demonstration? This video is marvelous. Thanks DL

  • @micheldappers484
    @micheldappers484 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you so much Shane for explaining this! Makes sense now. A while ago I did an FTP test with my new smart trainer on Zwift and blew out before I even could get to the 20 min part and didn't know what hit me. Cheers!

  • @gordonmckenzie9453
    @gordonmckenzie9453 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Awesome - wish I'd seen this when I first got on Zwift sprint intervals on my Snap. Took me ages to work out what was going on and feel the changes. Content just keeps getting better Shane.

    • @gplama
      @gplama  7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Cheers Gordon. ERG is a strange beast... and for those new to training indoors it can be frustrating. I hope this video will be a reference point that'll help everyone understand it.... and that the 'Spiral of Death' is by design.. (and evil!) :)

  • @vampetaradu
    @vampetaradu 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very nice explained! Thanks! I struggled during FTP test on Zwift with ERG on, not knowing how to handle when hydrating. I'm new to this. Thanks again!

  • @IPAColosseum
    @IPAColosseum 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Now it all makes sense! Great video!

  • @Camh1968
    @Camh1968 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks Shane. That’s a great perspective on ERG and where it stands in your training regime.
    After riding ERG for a while, I have learnt to better appreciate the huge benefits of non ERG training and it’s closer relevance to actual real life cycling.
    I have just purchased the Elite Real Emotion Rollers as another tool in my arsenal to better help with core strength, balance and pedalling stroke.
    Cameron

  • @steviegriffin3513
    @steviegriffin3513 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Have been navigating the minefield of turbo and direct drive trainers over the last few days. Finally an in-depth and really well-explained piece on what ERG mode actually is. First time coming across one of Shane's video. Instant sub after this video.

  • @simonhakim2901
    @simonhakim2901 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh that’s a great description. The Zwift Academy workouts have been killing me as I had no idea what was going on. Thanks Shane.

  • @itsdeebs5156
    @itsdeebs5156 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Being doing erg mode on zwift all week. Absolutely love it. Find it so much easier.
    So good can't recommend it more

  • @brianmorse1786
    @brianmorse1786 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Genius video Shane, thanks very much for the in-depth explanation and multiple examples of spiral of death. I see this video has been out for some time now but it's still very relevant for me. I've been Zwifting for just over 2 weeks now and failed 4 attempts at workouts with sharp transitions like "The Wringer," trying both with erg mode (spiral-spiral-spiral!) and without, finally resigning myself to just avoiding erg mode for any short duration intervals. After seeing this I'll give it another go, remembering to attack those transitions.
    Also kudos for being able to instruct while exerting yourself to that level!

  • @Maingoal1973
    @Maingoal1973 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Shane you do an awesome job with all your videos.

  • @RonnRider
    @RonnRider 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Brilliant demo vid mate! Looks like you you still got the fitness too💪🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

  • @mickeyb2927
    @mickeyb2927 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    These are superb videos. So well explained. I'm getting a cheap Tacx Flow for Christmas and thought your detailed appraisal of it was excellent, including how you have to learn how to ride erg mode to make the the power work. This video takes it a step further. Erg well explained. I now get it, whereas simply reading explanations on forums had me a bit confused. Keep up the good work!

  • @MrHotpl4te
    @MrHotpl4te 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Really good explanation thanks

  • @timeanspace
    @timeanspace 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    great video, nice clear explanation!

  • @kristiannilsson1893
    @kristiannilsson1893 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you, didn't really want it just from watching this video, but after both having the understanding from your explanation and an hour session without erg-mode I'm now sold on erg-mode. It's a must for every training plan I go through so that I can focus on the rpm's instead of shifting up and down just to hit the right watts to rpm and finishing with half a star...

  • @CyclingHubOfficial
    @CyclingHubOfficial 7 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    lol the 300 watts on-screen reference. Quality stuff as always Shane.

    • @gplama
      @gplama  7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Cheers Jesper. I don't think Hollywood will ever call me for special effects either.... re: SPIRAL OF DEATH.... ;)

    • @CyclingHubOfficial
      @CyclingHubOfficial 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      There's always Bollywood, jokes aside, Spiral of Death is the worst!

  • @avibank
    @avibank 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Best video about the topic. Thank you.

  • @CarlForde
    @CarlForde 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent detailed explanation. thanks

  • @anibaljesusdelgadillo2091
    @anibaljesusdelgadillo2091 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    More useful knowledge, thanks Shane!

  • @fenderperry
    @fenderperry 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you Shane, this was very informative.

  • @rawiniasalmon9060
    @rawiniasalmon9060 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks Shane, I thought I’d wasted a whole heap of money buying the smart trainer and a new bike but this makes sense and I look forward to trying it out tomorrow.

  • @mtbgo7860
    @mtbgo7860 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great explanation! Nice video.

  • @darleneanderson228
    @darleneanderson228 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just got my smart trainer and needed some help understanding ERG mode, especially after hitting the spiral of death on a test ride today! Your videos, especially this one have been very helpful! Thanks so much!

    • @darleneanderson228
      @darleneanderson228 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Updated: Can't thank you enough for this! Survived my first ride in full ERG mode and didn't hit the spiral of death! I understood it MUCH better today and had a great workout. I saw in one of your videos that you did the Sufferfest Knighthood Quest. I am a Sufferlandrian also and my quest will be in November. Thanks again for the awesome videos, I watched so many last night!!

  • @chrisvanbuggenum871
    @chrisvanbuggenum871 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So helpful. Just got my friends old original kickr and have previously been doing intervals by just adjusting gears and cadence with a wheel on trainer. Erg mode is like an exercise bike at the gym. Anyway thanks!

  • @tomalexander9140
    @tomalexander9140 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video, very helpful

  • @scarybear356
    @scarybear356 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hi Shane,
    Thanks for demo and explaining this, it's very helpful!
    I've gone from a Kurt kinetic road machine fluid trainer to a Tacx neo and have been struggling with a few of these things. It's taken me a while and I'm still playing around with it. (Like the first time I used it doing gear changing efforts and then seeing post ride speeds on strava showing 120km efforts haha!) I'm using the TrainerRoad program with the iPad and I'm really loving the automatic changing that happens it allows me to do other things like watching your TH-cam videos!
    So true! "The spiral of death" ☠️
    Cheers👍

  • @richardsteer37
    @richardsteer37 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was so helpful. Thank you!

  • @rein2523
    @rein2523 7 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Edwald Boasson Hagen is on Zwift 24/7 doing ERG trainings. But then again he is riding for Dimension Data wich ride with rotor 2inpower so his indoor trainings probably feel pretty easy. :D:D

    • @gplama
      @gplama  7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      LOL!

  • @andrewwilkinson4397
    @andrewwilkinson4397 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video. I'm new to Zwift and have hit the spiral of death several times without knowing what was going on. Brilliantly explained - Thank you!!!!

    • @gplama
      @gplama  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the comment Andrew. Good to know this video is still providing help for people who are getting into the world of Zwift and ERG (URG) mode! :)

  • @HTB6493
    @HTB6493 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great vid mate, cleared it all up.

  • @fukawitribe
    @fukawitribe 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For some of us old gits that also used to buy old physics text books, erg is also a unit of energy before all these new fangled Joule thingies became popular. Now I feel proper ancient. Nice video mate, top job.

  • @euthiestamos9731
    @euthiestamos9731 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks! In regard to the cadence spiral of death…in mountain biking, it does… You find yourself in the wrong gear grinding to a halt… That is happened to me (trails you don’t know… Or when you’re new ) and sometimes I have fought through it with enough force that I was afraid my chain was going to snap… others times the bike has come to a grinding halt. Excellent video and explanation… it freaked me out the first couple times it happened… By the way, excellent demonstration of power… You have 500 W for a while🚴

  • @6F2
    @6F2 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really useful Shane thanks, "spiral of death" solved a mystery for me

  • @Tizzledk
    @Tizzledk 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love that video....great explanation thanks for that!!

  • @phil7394
    @phil7394 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hit the spiral of death today with my first FTP test. Had no idea what ERG mode was. I thought my trainer broke. Ha! :)

  • @anthonys6657
    @anthonys6657 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This makes a lot of sense! Thanks Lama!

  • @huubmunstege3428
    @huubmunstege3428 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cool vid mate!

  • @mozpassion8996
    @mozpassion8996 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the tips!

  • @howardbecdove9780
    @howardbecdove9780 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you so much. That was very valuable info.

  • @EugeneTayam
    @EugeneTayam 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love this! Simplified. 😀

  • @mohelu
    @mohelu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I’m watching this legend do his thing and started to wonder … who are those 32 pricks who disliked the video!!!

    • @gplama
      @gplama  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      🤣🤣

  • @HarishChouhan
    @HarishChouhan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    While I still did not fully understand, I now have a better idea of how to do my interval training on the smart trainer. Thanks mate.

  • @pracepracovni808
    @pracepracovni808 7 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Finally somebody really explained ERG mode. Huge thanks Shane!!! As a TT specialist with most of trainings full of SS FTP intervals this ERG mode is TOP choice that will cost me lots of money investing in smart trainer. Wife will kill me, bought P1 pedals week ago lol

  • @georgestearns2002
    @georgestearns2002 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    thank you for this! super helpful.

  • @886014
    @886014 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video Shane, I love the SoD reference :)
    I like the mode personally and always use it for intervals on the trainer. It's the ultimate referee; no cheating, you either do the Watts or you don't.

  • @money842
    @money842 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very helpful! Thank you.

  • @ClubmanGT1971
    @ClubmanGT1971 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I can completely agree about the spiral of death! I couldn’t believe it when I first moved to a genuine smart trainer (kickr). I couldn’t work out what the hell was going on. Then I kept up my cadence and let it settle back down. Takes a while to get used to.

  • @dr.deborahnixon1192
    @dr.deborahnixon1192 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    'That was a great explanation and demonstration. Thanks o much for this. So clear.

  • @jamesRbale
    @jamesRbale 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Just bought the Wahoo Kickr Snap. Loving your videos - really helping.

  • @luismedeiros7139
    @luismedeiros7139 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is my favorite class :D

  • @rice_police88
    @rice_police88 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very helpful, thanks

  • @TheMadHatter1330
    @TheMadHatter1330 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you so much for this info. I tried a workout on ERG mode with no understanding of what was going on, this explains why I blew up so quickly 🤣

  • @migolarte
    @migolarte 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great video!! very very useful, thanks!!!

  • @omardgardiner2225
    @omardgardiner2225 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great Video. Thanks

  • @bacflip1
    @bacflip1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think you just saved me as the trainer was kicking my @$$. Can’t wait to see what it’s like with ERG mode off. Experienced the spiral of death too many times in my first 3 rides

  • @stevenlanglois2626
    @stevenlanglois2626 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video. ERG mode makes TrainerRoad what it is. Once you get your FTP dialed in, you are in for some amazing workouts. But different things motivate different people. A friend loves Zwift and the emersion which would use Sim mode. He would not like TrainerRoad at all. I personally love it.

  • @javandermerwe
    @javandermerwe 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What a cool video! 👍

  • @craigbrady73
    @craigbrady73 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just bought my first smart trainer today, was warned about this erg mode, didn't fully comprehend the complexity when it was explained to me but this video has been brilliant explaining the issues involved. Thanks for the great video, going to do my first session tomorrow.... Wish me luck 🙄

  • @harryschuurman7026
    @harryschuurman7026 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for explanation it was easy to understand

  • @kivanccubukcu570
    @kivanccubukcu570 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great vid! Now I know why I was unable to complete my interval session this afternoon LOL