3 ways I use Open Gate, and why you should too
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 31 ก.ค. 2024
- Open Gate has been around for a while. It's on the GH5, the GH6, as well as some other full frame cameras like the Lumix S1H.
I've recently started to use Open Gate in my own video work, and here are three uses for open gate, and how it can improve your video work as well!
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Todays word of choice is clearly “wiggle room” 🤣 hope you found this helpful! Feel free to add your own tips and tricks in the comments and we can all help each other
I only vaguely understood open gate before watching this video and now it's crystal clear and more useful than I first thought, so thank you for the great explanation with examples! I'm still learning about anamorphic lenses and the first thing I learnt is that I probably can't afford it :D
I need some anamorphic in my life! I’ve just backed the Moment anamorphic adapter on Kickstarter, seems like good bang for buck as you can use it on many lenses. Still pricy tho!
So far, the main thing I've done with open gate is to set up a stationary camera with a wide lens at a live event, and then add movement in post to simulate a 2nd shooter.
This is such a good hack, my little mind is properly blown! There is a whole saved list in my Amazon profile that I can now confidently just delete, a metric tonne of equipment that won't end up in land-fill. Thanks for this! Now I have to start practicing...
Thank you for all your videos they always make me smile and feel good and I never fail to learn something from each one.
Just found your channel, with a lens review. Was not really looking for excuses to spend even more money so very pleased to find videos about how to get more out of what I already own! Am now going to binge watch everything :)
Out of every video I’ve watched on the topic of open gate you actually made this make so much sense lol. Thank you
This is the best channel to learn fancy b-roll stuff!
I’ve been looking at the new open gate BMCC 6k, now I get why you'd shoot using this system. Thanks for posting
Thanks , very nice done !!! Beautiful ❤
I watched a 20mins video on open gate /gh6 just before yours (I have a GH5ii). I have to say: yours makes it very easy for someone with no clue about what open gate is to make sense of it! Thanks!
This is exactly what I was going for thanks so much for the lovely comment!! I thought some real world examples would be much easier to demonstrate 😁
@@MicroFourNerds thanks. Real. World examples / creative use of the functionality is definitely the way to go! Keep up with the good work! 😁👍
Thank you so much for this valuable video. This helped me a lot. Cheers Michael
I watch all your videos and love the great attitude and information you share. My GH6 will be here tomorrow so I'm super excited.
Aaah you’re going to love it it’s such a great camera!
Really interesting stuff. Didn't know about it. Thank you very much!
The dog is following you! its so cute :)
Great tips my friend.
As an amateur I find that that extra space really useful for smooth top-down (or opposite) views. Although image stabilisation helps a lot it is not to maintain consistant panning speed. You can also sort of set a movement of viewport in editing software in a bezier curve manner and achieve a satysfiing ease-out with a good framing and without any fiddling with framerate.
Thanks for the very explanatory video. You highlighted three advantages to open gate. I suggest there is a forth:
Open gate leaves wiggle room not just for re-reframing, but for shake removal in post. IMHO, the decisions of most camera companies to limit video saves to EXACTLY 1920,x1080 or EXACTLY 3840 x 2160 pixel resolutions makes no sense. With exact in-camera crops to delivery resolution, ANY shake removal done in post involves a crop followed by an upres. ANY reframing in post involves a crop followed by an upres. In either case, image quality inevitably suffers.
With open gate, or even a mathematically simple down-res/resampling to something beyond delivery resolutions, more of the resolution of one or both of the sensor dimensions can make it to post. Consequentially, a degree of "wiggle room" is available is available during editing.
Kudo's to the hybrid manufacturers who are providing open gate. I suspect it, or something approaching open gate, will be eventually be a ubiquitous option on ALL higher end hybrid cameras.
Thank you, great tip.
Love this vid
Thank you for another informative video about my beloved GH5! Just tried this with my Meike 3.5 Circular Fisheye, and wow! Now I can actually record video of the full circle! No more crop, woohoo!
I’ve never thought of that! Haha that’s genius I have that lens
@@MicroFourNerds I got myself that lens due to your review a few years back. :D
Hi Craig! Is it possible to use an external monitor when recording in open gate mode?
Are there guide lines available on the external monitor to frame 16:9 or 9:16?
I really like the iphotography 1-shot take you shared with us here. I am hoping to use open gate with my BGH1 as I want to capture a little more of an image.
great video
IMHO, being able to shoot in 4:3 open gate gives us another reason for the MFT being a great format. 👍Although you can also do this with full frame (A la S1H, which is an even more amazing camera), it allows a MFT camera to be capable of up to 6K resolution, which is simply amazing ! I loved the running swish-pan sequence you did for that industrial video you showed ! This was quality work.👀👌
Yup. I shoot anamorphic, and open gate on the GH5 is EVERYTHING
Hi Afotey. Is it possible to use an external monitor when recording in open gate mode?
Are there guide lines available on the external monitor to frame 16:9 or 9:16?
@@locoqueno yes, it's totally possible to monitor while shooting open gate. I do it literally every time I turn my camera on and shoot with my anamorphic lenses.
And the GH5 Mark II does have guide lines for all those aspect ratios, as does the GH5/GH6.
Ive been waiting for this one! Well done! Sometimes I wish I could just do fullHD in 4.3 mode but oh well.
Just film at the high resolution then pass the footage through a encoder to convert it to a 1080p (ish) file size, then toss the orginal.... I know an extra step and not a perfect solution but its an option.
Would love a video where you showed how you edited that office one take! It's amazing!
Aah thank you very much ☺️ it was a lot of fun to film!
One thing I'll add is its great for rolls/rotations (in post or with gimbals) as you have more of an image "square" to play with.
Open Gate is such a versatile option to have on the GH6, I'm really getting use out of it.
That’s a great tip thank you for sharing!
You are great.
Mind blowing! I am going to rent a gh5 or gh6 and try this!
It would be good if a firmware update for the G9 included this feature. I occasionally film Rock Choirs and edit the 16:9 footage in an anamorphic format and also pan and zoom the 4K footage.
Great video and really nice shots. I really like shooting open gate on the GH6, I do wish Panasonic would allow you to put multiple frame markers on the screen though, that would be really handy, just as a quick shortcut reference for framing. Just for something like having 9:16, 16:9, and even 1:1. I know it would be a mess but I would find that really useful.
I totally agree!
I used to have a Kind of open gate function when making time lapses - I Pan and tilt slowly to make it more interesting .
And I feel so restricted when this feature is not available with my older Panasonics. So I decided to make all videos only in HD Quality so I can add movements when filming in 4k.
Grreat video! Love this! Do you have videos about editing Opengate and which camera do you use? Subscribed!
thanks for this! Would you recommend editing a video with the timeline clips as 3:2 and then changing the sequence settings to your desired resolution when you're done OR Setting the sequence settings to your desired resolution when creating the project from the start?
I recently got a GH5M2, since my computer can't easily move the 422 footage I still haven't decided what video settings in terms of video quality I should use... except "FHD 24p 420/8-L + VFR" for 120fps...
Would you do a video explaining the settings for this OpenGate thing?
Thanks!!
Do you know any external monitors , that fit the size of the open gate?
Hi. The gimbal clip in open gate. Did you use Auto focus? Wondering if the Panny could have kept up with the dynamic shots. I have a GH5 and would love to do something like that. .. thanks for your response. I know it's already been a year now.
Does open gate work in full hd? I need this extra vertical space but don't need 4k.
Thank you for some great tips there. I`m very new to video and still learning loads, mostly how to get it so wrong LOL! Is wiggle room a technical term? :-) Would love to know or maybe even see how you edit and software you use for video. May be in a future video? Thank you again.
Great! .lovely contents..congratulations I have gh4 gh5 gh5s bgh1 and gh6 and I've got a lot of fun here in Rapanui Happiness and blessings
Hi, stupid question : can we display both horizontal and vertical guides on the GH5?
I also wonder this!
My camera's still my old GX8, so this is sadly not an option.
I do benefit from its extra video crop, tho, in that I can shoot with lenses that would otherwise vignette dramatically. Hopefully Lumix will finally do a proper update of my beloved rangefinder-beastie soon... Getting very drooly over those GH6 specs!
Hey there thanks for this video it is really insightful, appreciate it! I have a question as a GH5m2 owner. If I shoot open gate in 4k and crop in post am I losing quality as opposed to just shooting in 4k with the regular 16:9 aspect ratio? Does Panasonic do any enhancing when cropping in 16:9 that is missed when going open gate? Or am I just doing in post what the GH5m2 does for me when selecting a 16:9 aspect ratio. Thanks!
So, not sure on the gh5m2, but on the gh6, the open gate settings are 4.4k at 60p and 5.something k at 24p so you don’t lose any resolution 😊 check the resolution and see but I assume it just makes the longer edge higher resolution to fit the full sensor and you won’t lose anything
Thank you so much for the video! I am looking into buying a GH6 mainly beacuse I want to take advantage of open gate but I at this point quality anamorphics are out of my budget so I am looking into Meike lenses, can you still get a 4:3 image using Meike? Is there a crop? Thank you so much, and keep on the great content!
Hi! Yes so any standard lens will just give you a 4:3 sized video rather than 16:9, with no squeeze, so the Meike will be absolutely fine for that 😊
@@MicroFourNerds Thank you so much for taking the time to answer, I truly appreciate your insight. Have a great rest of the week!
yeah great way
Is open gate available on the new G9II? Mine just arrived and I can't seem to find it. Thank you!!
It is!!!! Look for the 4:3 formats in the (massive) list
And then save it to your fsvourite so you can easily find it 😁
If I wanted to keep the 4:3 ratio what timeline resolution would I use?
4.4k in 4:3 would be 4352x3264 😊
I'm new to the channel. Do you edit in Resolve, by chance? If so, I'd love to see how you approach setting up your timelines to use open gate.
I've watched one other tutorial on the subject and it was good but I'm always down to see another educator teaching the same thing, as your presentation may resonate better with some people
Final cut unfortunately! It’s so user friendly in my experience. I hope you can still get value from the video and the channel 😊
For open gate, In post what software do you use and do you just crop it vertical for Tiktok and Instagram. First time open gate shooter.
So the format of the video is determined by the project when you first create it, so if you add the footage to a vertical project you will just be able to zoom in and frame it however you like 😊
I personally use Final Cut. You can choose Vertical options when you make a project. But I’m pretty sure all the alternate software works similarly
Do people not use the whole image frame and post that on youtube, rumble etc..? I get Move screens are 16x9 but does everything have to look that way? Seems like a was of a sensor. Also what if you want to get everything in from top and bottom? Do you have to squeeze in the image and make it look funny?
Great video as always. We just got the GH6 and open gate footage just does not play well on our PC with Resolve Pro. What are you using to edit successfully (software and hardware)? Are you transcoding at all before editing, or direct import? Thank you so much
OH, and what codec are you shooting? THANKS
Hi! My i7 top spec iMac did not like virtually anything the gh6 was throwing out. I had to upgrade to the M1 chip and now eveything runs really smoothly. I edit with final cut, and direct imports, no proxy media
How hard is it to edit 6K open gate footage?
Hi nice video.. I have some doubts though. Recently I wa steering the s5M2. I shot in 6k open gate. But I am not sure how to edit it. I use fcpx. I am not sure what should be the project timeline resolution and all that. If you can make a video on that, especially the editing part .. that will be a huge help. 🙏
If you want to make the most of the ability to punch in and reframe then the video timeline should stay as normal, in a 16:9 ratio 😊 I edit in 4k 16:9 which is 3840 × 2160
@@MicroFourNerds thanks for the reply.. 🙏
I used Open Gate for the first time this week with my anamorphic lens which was sitting on a shelf unloved for a year. I decided to go out and film the solstice sunset. Not exactly a riveting, on the edge of your seat subject matter, but I wanted to have a play.
The world of pain came when editing. Do you know how hard it is to learn/research how to de-squeeze footage?
Easy it is not. Even the "Anamorphic on a budget" channel made gleaning the information difficult. But I got there. 😀
I love his channel! Yes, the Sirui one has different squeeze ratios at different focus points as well I think? Making things even more confusing!
I’ve just backed the Moment anamorphic 1.33x adapter on Kickstarter which looks really fun! But I doubt I’ll get it before 2023 🥲
@@MicroFourNerds You are more than welcome to borrow my Siuri and have an experiment with it.
Do you shoot everything in open gate?
Not everything, but sometimes it’s really handy. It is only 4:2:0 so some of the other choices in the camera are higher quality in trickier lighting situations.
Does the IBIS work if I want to record in open gate 4:3 in 5.8k (on the GH6) but without using anamorphic lenses?
It does work yes. That’s what I did in these examples 😊
@@MicroFourNerds Thanks. Which camera do you thing has more versatility for working in open gate to deliver in different aspect ratios? GH6, GH5 or S5 ? Thank you!!!
@@ikamultimedia gh6 for sure you can do it at higher quality and because it has a micro four thirds sensor it uses the full sensor to capture the data.
@@MicroFourNerds and in that Open Gate mode does all the specs function? Dynamic Range boost, all IBIS stops, etc... ?
@@ikamultimedia it’s 4:2:0 quality but otherwise the camera works exactly the same just a different aspect ratio.
Is this all applicable to the LUMIX S5ii that is now released with 6K open gate? Or is anything different from your camera you're using here?
It can be done on the S5ii, you have a 3:2 open gate so a slightly different ratio but it works great still
@@MicroFourNerds Gotcha. Thanks. I get mine tomorrow at Yodobashi Camera UMEDA. The greatest electronics shop in the world.
I enjoyed your video - very inspiring. I want to use this technique on a project but I am only see 4:2:0 color available in 5.8 "Open gate" - am I missing something in the settings? I require 4:2:2 for color.
It is only 4:2:0 on gh6 at the moment, which is a drawback for sure depending on the circumstances. Hopefully it can be upgraded in firmware or via an external recorder soon 🤞
@@MicroFourNerds Thx for the reply - been Googling. New firmware drops tomorrow - we will see (fingers crossed for sure). Keep up the great work!
Firmware V2 just installed moments ago. Anamorphic (4:3) 5.8K / 12-bit RAW video data can be output over HDMI to ATOMOS NINJA V and NINJA V+ devices, to be recorded as Apple Pro Res RAW. Works for me - although I can ONLY record HDMI out to the Ninja V in RAW but not simultaneous record in the GH6 body. That makes me nervous...
I have a question, Can I record in open gate without an anamorphic lens? I mean, I can use any lenses and record in open gate?
Yes that’s what I did in all these examples. It’ll just come out in 4:3 instead of 16:9 😊
@@MicroFourNerds do you know if I can record in anamorphic mode without anamorphic lens in LUMIX S5?
@@dannylocuvideo you can, Chris Hau uses the S5 and did a video on it recently
@@MicroFourNerds thanks
Do you convert the files ? What format do you use ?
It’s just a standard 4k file but in a 4:3 ratio, you don’t need to do anything special to open it so long as your computer can run normal 4k files 😊
I shoot in .MOV
@@MicroFourNerds Me too, but in editing it's too slow, i can't edit the files without conversion in Prores
@@mica.motion ProRes is really easy on the Mac operating system. Have you tried using Proxy files? That helps a lot to speed things up, but takes up a bit more storage space
Sadge I don't have OPen Gate on my EOS R
A totally under estimated channel !
Thank you very much 🙏
I use gh5 in 4:3 anamorfic. Very good for 16:9 and 9:16 simultaneously
Hi Lucas! Is it possible to use an external monitor when recording in open gate mode?
Are there guide lines available on the external monitor to frame 16:9 or 9:16?
@@locoqueno yes is possible and I use lines guide..
@@lvca.avellino thank you!
Can u make a small video of this with post production process.
Not much about this on YT.
Regards
Strange that Panasonic haven't created a multi social media markers grid
I would love it if they did
People may not know, arri alexa cinema camer also shoots 4.3 if i remember right.
Open gates? Wich camera are you talking about?
In mft, the Lumix GH5, GH6, and possibly some of the cameras that have the 4k/6k photo modes 😊
I can't believe I've been using my GH5 for so long and had no idea this was a thing! I just thought that setting was for anamorphic lens shooting. This is a gamechanger.
Are the downsizes just that the files are a bit bigger? I guess less frame rate options too.
Yes no downsides at all just larger files and different codec/frame rate options etc. it’s really handy!
Abandoning 4:3 was the worst thing ever. I love 4:3. Whenever I see a 16:9 monitor or movie or picture or whatever, it looks just like a tank rolled over it and made it too flat. It's like looking out of a window that has blinds and you peek between those.
One of my monitors on my PC is still 4:3 - reading and writing texts is so much better, you have to scroll much less.
Ah, err...yes, to the topic:
Idk, but I just shoot everything with 4K. Because nobody needs 4K anywhere, nobody has such good eyes and the TH-cam/Facebook/Netflix/whatever-compression kills any advantage anyway. So there is always a great amount of headroom when downsizing the video to 1080p.
But maybe this is a pure online-creator's point of view 🙂
I totally get that! I think for my videos, as a lot of them either have photos in, or are comparing different types of footage, there is a benefit for uploading in 4k for that extra pixel-peeping goodness, but yeah, the average video you can hardly tell.
Are you me? Haha, pretty much exactly how I feel about it all.
If you film at open gate in 5.7k and export as 4k you have room to keyframe left and right, and up and down.
Well put!
Excellent point thank you 😁
@@MicroFourNerds You are welcome!
@@EmberSkyMedia Thank you!
Riddle me this, will Sony ever release a firmware update for the A7S3 that allows for open gate. If they claim there is a hardware limitation... They're lying. So very annoying
on the GH5 Open Gate is trash, very poor codec. Sure it's 10 bit, but the bitrate is ridiculous and it's 4:2:0.
Oh I just thought buying a GH5 for this purpose.
Is it possible to use an external monitor when recording in open gate mode?
Are there guide lines available on the external monitor to frame 16:9 or 9:16?