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GH6 REVIEW! What the specs don't tell you...
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 31 ก.ค. 2024
- SO HAPPY to be sharing this Lumix GH6 review! I've been absolutely blown away by this camera, but I have put it through its paces, as you'll see. In this camera review I'll go over: GH6 auto focus, GH6 low light performance, and all my favourite features of the new Lumix camera.
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00:00 Intro
00:30 Big New Feature!
01:42 The Other Big New Feature! (with test footage)
03:30 Quick-Fire Wins
04:20 Probably the thing ya'll want to know most!
07:00 Ergonomics... what's new?!
08:09 Personalise... new custom features
09:56 The other thing ya'll want to know about most!
12:10 CONS and thoughts
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My favorite m43 TH-camr is back. That lowlight performance was pretty insane. Can't believe it's improved that much.
Honestly I was surprised too! And it’s pre production so can only get better with firmware updates too I guess 😊
@@MicroFourNerds Yes, look at GH5 at release and with latest firmware update! There are good things to come!
Aaaaah I’m so happy the gh6 is finally out 😂 I’ve had a blast these last few weeks trying everything out. What feature are you most excited about?? And how impressive is that low light performance?! 👀
Will you be biting the bullet and getting the GH6??..I hope Panasonic will be giving you some huge discount for reviewing their product.
@@qrphfradio7753 I also hope this but I’m not sure they do that unfortunately. I am definitely buying it… I just might have to sell something first 🤣 (I’m side-eyeing my lumix S1 right now haha)
@@MicroFourNerds Panasonic if your reading these comments, do the right thing for this young lady, a little discount would help her out immensely 🙏😉..
Sensor, engine and AF trickle down to G9II and weatherproofed GX10...
I think if you are happy with the GH6, then Panasonic are onto a winner. It looks pretty much like the camera we all hoped for. It’s a little out of my budget at the moment, but I have the feeling that used GH5 models are about to become a little cheaper to buy…
the only review of this camera that matters!!
haha they don't call me the micro four nerd for nothing ;) thanks so much for watching!
Yours was by far the most fun and helpful review of the GH6 I have seen yet! Thank you so much!
Haven't seen your vids in a while! Great to have you back on the scene. Or maybe I've just been under a rock lol. Get it girl!
Most useful hands on video I've seen today. I'm a stills guy, but you pretty much sold it too me on that front! Keep up the good work 👍🏼
Really glad to see you involved with this launch. Had been missing your videos. Didn't know you were a drummer!
Fabulous review, and so much great info about what you can actually do with the new features, not just what the new features are. Great comparison tests too!
Thanks for your review! I’ve watched everybody’s reviews and yours has the best real examples of auto-focus performance. Which I think looks great and actually usable!
Top work.
You are very very correct!
I have seen more than 50 video reviews of the GH6 but your is the best. It is simple and nicely done. Your review made me made up my mind to upgrade from my GH5. I have shared your review on most Lumix forum that I know. Thanks and keep up the good work. I have subscribed to your channel
Thanks so much! That comment has made my day!
@@MicroFourNerds You are welcome. So much love from Nigeria.
Oh my Lordy, this is an amazing review!
Those low light noise comparison shots between the GH5, GH6, and the S5 is soooo useful as an existing Panasonic owner.
I have seen the majority of the other GH6 reviews and this is my favourite review now.
You are an incredible presenter and your personality and witty perspective is infectious! Subscribed!
Thank you very much! 🙏📸😁
Love your energy, humor but still full of tech details. Enjoyable.
Probably the best review of the GH6 out there at moment. Hope you sharing a video a month
Thank you very much ☺️🙏
Fun and thorough. Love the tests and test footage. Subscribed.
You are my favorite Lumix channel host. Probably my favorite camera channel host. You are so talented, and I love your photo and video work. Getting my GH6 later today. Very excited! Thanks for your great work.
Thank you very much! 🙏
Your positivity and passion so engaging and informative. Great video!
Thank you very much ☺️🙏
Nice review and your channel stands out positively in a world of geralds and dsslr shooters.
Love your review Emily! Keep posting!
Love it when your videos pop up. Hope you are well!
Great drumming! In addition to all the other good stuff 👍😁
The way you dot short little tip tutorials in your videos is great. Subbed.
Great video, thanks for the great review!
Just pre-ordered. Starting to make listings for my g9 and bmpcc4k. Love em both, but the bmpcc4k is too much camera for me to use regularly and the gh6 can cover 100% of my needs by itself.
The lowlight image quality is going to be amazing paired with the noktons 😍
I love your enthusiasm! Great review and it's great to see a Panasonic camera AF properly. If they had PDAF I'd buy the GH6 in a heartbeat. That 100MP shooting feature looks amazing. Thank you.
Great video! I’m totally considering pulling the trigger on the GH6
Your back! Missed your videos...great band clip...great DnD dice shot...and of course 7of9...yeah all nerded out. As for the camera was curious to see potential for next level G10...maybe or at least a firmware upgrade. Great work Emily.
Thank you very much! ☺️ very happy to be back and have loads planned. More nerdiness to come! Haha
First time watching your videos, subbed ASAP! You’re incredibly amazing 🤩 kept me so engaged with your sympathy, such an excellent way to create content. This is by FAR the best review of the GH6 video I have seen. I love when someone is completely honest and give us something to believe what they said. I’m coming back for more your videos.
Thank you very much for watching and commenting - really appreciate it! 🙏📸
Great video and welcome back, Emily!
I'm totally impressed by the low light performance! 😊 Actually I'm more into the Olympus/OM System but this really blows me away. Good to see that both companies did a great job in bumping low light performance in higher ISO regions. Seems to be a good year for Micro Four Thirds!
Ah and of course your review was great! Love your Danny DeVito focus test! 😂
Haha thank you! Danny has been my desk buddy for the last year or so, it was time for him to be featured properly in a video 🤣 and yes - what a year for m43!
The real test for how the future looks for m43 is what Panasonic and OM do for their other lines. Will we see a GX refresh? G? If not, that's an ominous sign despite the amazing flagship releases.
Excellent review!!! Thank you!!
Just ordered my GH6 last night and then spent the rest of my night shift watching reviews slagging off the auto focus.
Thankfully your real world focusing on Seven of Nine made me feel a lot more confident in placing my order.
Great little episode and a much more positive review of the only thing we care about, the auto focus.😀
I've watched a few reviews as well this one is the only one that says its ok.
Update: just watched another saying its totally useable in most common use case scenarios.
Great to see you again and great review
Excellent overview, thanks! 🥦🥦🥦🥦🥦
Great review, thanks!
Great video Emily. Banging breakdown of it all! What a beast.
PS nice chops there too ☠🤘
Thank you!!! Loved your gh6 video 🙌
@@MicroFourNerds thanks very much mate! We didn't have long, but we got it done 👌
Great review, you look very pleased.
The GH6 looks like a big step up from the GH5, especially of you can do back up recording to an external ssd.
I'd like to take a good look at the internal recording data rates on the cfexpress card and see what the PQ is like.
Also the price is quite high compared to the S1 and S5, so for those of us who film with cine lenses, the FF bodies with their better low light, DR, and depth of field control are still the way to go (imho)
Thanks Emily - it'll be great to see more GH6 videos 👍
I'm glad to see you again
I am back, with a ton of stuff in the works :) Thanks so much for not forgetting about me!
Enjoyed every second of this video, Emily. Seeing your take on this camera makes me so happy to be a Lumix shooter. PS= which drum kit is that, and is it yours?
It is! It’s the limited edition version of the Alesis Strike Pro. It’s a beaut!!!! It is huge tho, it takes up an entire room 😂
I'm so happy that this channel is getting some love from Panasonic, I've been a sub since ages and the production has been increasing. Also this review gets extra points for the SloMo dogs having fun in the rain.
Thanks so much 🙏 I’m really trying to up my quality and consistency, I’m so glad you’ve noticed and stuck with me 😊
@@MicroFourNerds if ever get a destination wedding to DR let me know 😅
DRUMS, amazing, and the stick spin was so good!!!! Woooo.
Great review!
Shhhh don't tell anyone, but I'm an Oly....sorry, om system guy here. But I like to see what Panasonic is up to
And I could listen to Emily talk for hours :)
I love your review and personality, great video! I have the GH5M2, and I find it has great auto focus too. I was in that strange in between time and didn't have the patience to wait for the gh6. Hahahah!
Haha I’ve been there - I think that’s how I ended up with the s5 🤣 thanks so much for watching! 🙏
Wow, brilliant review. With all that dynamic range it looks to be a superb stills camera as well. The G9 has been wonderful for me but I will try a GH6 in the shop soon. Hope they can do a firmware update for the S5 af 🥺
I have the G9 as well love the G9 :) One of the things I really love about Lumix is they keep bring out updates. I hope they will bring some updates to the GH6's AF. Like they did for the G9, I think I'm gonna hold off on the GH6. Stick with the G9 and Sony A7III and see what firmware updates they bring out :).
I didn't believe the G9 handling-hype until I got it myself. Then, when I moved on to other cameras, I still miss it now. I want a G9II.
Love the vibe of this channel 🥦😆
Thank you! 🥦🥦🥦🥦🙌🙌🙌🙌
Didn't know you also played drums.. Wow.. Something about creatives. There is always that connection to music.. 🥰
Watched a LOT of your MFT videos (i am also deep into the system) but i didn't know you're also a drummer!? Very impressive!
"It's here!" Nice, but more importantly, "YOU'RE HERE!" Great to see you again :) Hope you've been keeping well!
Haha thank you! Yes, I’ve been a bit busy and a bit overwhelmed with all the world events of recent months, but I am back in action now for sure 💪💪💪💪
Great video!
I loved your video, and I love you. New Subscriber! Long life to MFT! I want my new GH6 Asap!
Really like the new look of your videos and the skin tones have a nice pink look to them. I'm a fan of pink as it has a retro look. I think the pink look came from Hong Kong some company that made film back in the 1970's. There was a filmmaking app that I used on my old iPhone 3GS that gave description of the pink look from Hong Kong. Also the pink look reminds me of the really old Kung Fu movies.
Great video, thank you.
Best autofocus test ever. Danny!
Very good review.
Best review of gh6...👍.awesome.
Yay, nice to see you're back with us. Only one question, was the S5 having a bad day when it came to the auto focus. Pretty poor considering its spec and price.
There has been a comment here suggesting it doesn’t do very well with that specific stock lens, as it was the stock lens I got with the S1, and not the S5… but it’s an official lumix lens with the latest firmware, so I don’t know to be honest! You’d hope you could use any official lens and get the best results
I will say, in real world situations, the s5 doesn’t feel that bad at all, I’ve never had any problems with it. So the results of this test surprised me to be honest!
Coolest thing was recognizing the liverpool docks from when I went there 10 years ago :D
the low light perfomance looks about the same leap of quality we got when we went to 16mp, finally, from 16 to 20 we didn't had that much of a leap
That area is one of my favourite places, I really love the architecture in Liverpool! (Though I wish the sea water was less brown haha)
Your videos are amazing
I saw a few videos about the gh6 after the presentation but this is the best by far
That is such a wonderful thing to say thanks so much for stopping by ☺️🙏🎉
Autofocus looked GREAT!
doesn't it just?! like, I had high hopes, but this surpassed them!
It did. I've heard there is a focus limiter as well. I've not seen how easy it is to use yet tho.
Hi,firstly thank you for the informative video,
So my question is I do a lot of dog photography using a gh5 and as you are aware it’s pain especially with auto focus,my Initial plan was to change over to Sony alpha but obviously gh6 would work to my benefit in terms of glass etc
I just wondered if you feel this camera is capable of doing high quality sharp photos that move at a fast face pace for moving objects such as dogs etc
Toneh is going to have a real hard time working out the whole equivalence thing now hahaha
Gracias, very nice.
Thanks for the review, but a huge negative of the GH6 is the lack of any provision for a battery grip (emphasis on the "grip"--mine rarely leaves my G9). As a stills photographer who rarely does video (and in those rare cases, the G9 has plenty of capability for my needs), often shoots in portrait mode, and uses the Leica 100-400 quite a bit, this is a deal-breaker. They've also dropped some stills-oriented features, plus I don't need the fan (and don't care for the extra bulk it requires) or most of the video features, impressive though they are. I'd also like to see the 5.76 MP EVF (but with the G9's 0.83x mag). If I were a videographer. I'd jump on the GH6, but despite the fact that the G9 is the sixth Lumix camera I've purchased, if a direct replacement for the G9 doesn't materialize in the not-too-distant future, I'll be seriously considering the OM-1. I have two Oly camaras already, but I prefer the Lumix ergo and most of my MFT lenses are Leica or Lumix.
Great video Emily! Did I spot you on the drums??
You did indeed! 👀
nice drumming!
Could you do a full video on just photography with the Gh6? Haven’t seen much content covering photo
I love your vids! What really shits me about M4/3 GH6 is the lack of an all in one Doco lens. Yes there is the Olympus 12-100 f4 but this is expensive seeing as the stabiliser don’t work with the GH5. I just can’t understand why Panasonic never made one.
Great review!!! Does the camera record pro res in 4K and FHD as well as 5.2k?
Strangely I think the HD prores isn't on at the moment but is coming - that's what I think I remember hearing.
Is there a speed booster for mft to mft
Cuz all I see when I search is adapter speed booster and I just want to boost the speed lol
Expensive start of the year for me, as I'm a Canon + Panasonic shooter and mainly video-centric. So you make the math and guess, which two bodies I've pre-ordered. Exciting times at the same though. Panasonic most certainly has knocked the goalposts out of the ballpark with the GH6 .. especially at that price point .. beating some of the cameras in the 4-5k bracket.
The thing, I was sad to see, is that the live streaming has not been carried over to the GH6 from the GH5 II, but well, I still have the GH5 II for that. Everything else is just superb.
It's also funny to see, that both the engineers at Canon and Panasonic have taken similar approaches to achieving higher quality footage. In the GH6, all modes up to 120fps are oversampled 5.7k. In the Canon R5C all modes up to 60fps are oversampled 8k. Both the GH6 and the Canon R5C introduced 4 channel audio recording in camera. Both cameras have been fitted with an internal fan to guarantee limitless recording. And there's lots more.
I'm looking forward to the firmware updates though, like ProRes in 4k and 1080p, external recording to SSD, 4k120 raw via HDMI to Ninja V+, etc. Panasonic is the first after Blackmagic (to my knowledge) to utilize the USB-C port in a mirrorless (or DSLR) body to be able to store SSD, and that gives fantastic flexibility.
I was also sad about the live streaming, but I suppose that’s a unique selling point for the gh5ii
I MAYYYY have just part exchanged my S1 to pre order a gh6 🙈🎉📸
@@MicroFourNerds I've been using Panasonic since the GH4 for most video as Canon wasn't anywhere ready. So I stuck with my 5D Mk3 for photo and didn't upgrade until last year, when I got an EOS R. Still use the 5D Mk3 more and my Panasonic (by now a GH5 & GH5 II). So the EOS R5C will be the first Canon (for me), that will fit both brackets. But there is one thing you can't beat M43 for: when it has to be light weight and Panasonic just excels when it comes to IBIS and hand held shooting, so yes, a GH6 is also coming. It certainly makes for a better B camera and in some scenarios even A Camera, than the EOS R, which is just soulless.
Prores in 1080 is interesting Im wondering how practical that fill be to use.
Thanks for this great review ! Which auto focus mode did you use please ? Is it the best in most situations ? Thanks again 🙂
My favourite setting is “single point auto focus, plus face detect”. This gives you a little box to point the camera in the right direction, but it will automatically track faces if anything comes out of that area as well. Works very well in my experience 😊
@@MicroFourNerds many thanks 😉 take care
Awesome.
How far is the Lumix GH6 from the G9? What are the most important features in comparison that the Lumix G9 cannot do? For whom is the GH6 a must have and when at the latest should the user of a Lumix G9 switch to the GH6? Please give me some guidance and thank you for your interesting and beautiful videos.
The utmost best product by Panasonic is the little combi-brush I got with my Panasonic shaver. It is always in my bag and it helps for cleaning lensens, the surfaces of the glass excluded. Please, dear Panasonic stuff, put the brush into each camera box!
Amazing review. Thanks. 12:08 doesnt it seem like gh6 is applying a lot of NR? I think GH5 would look the same similar NR is applied on the post. The pattern on the rotating dial is almost gone on the GH6. I have a G9 and still on the fence if I should get a GH6 (considering only due to low light and higher bitrate). Possible to share the gh5 and gh6 raw videos from 12:08? Would be very helpful to decide. Thank you.
Yeah I totally get what you mean, the gh6 does a lot of processing internally for noise. On the whole I think it does a great job, but maybe with future updates there will be more user controls in the menus to turn it up, down, or off. At the moment that’s just how the video comes out of the camera.
I think with some good noise reduction software you could get about half way there with the gh5, but (in my experience anyway!) noise reduction plugins are so processor heavy they really add onto my editing and rendering time, so I’m glad there’s less work times do with the gh6 files 😊
@@MicroFourNerds Thanks for the reply. Yes I do agree with the time investment needed to do NR in post. Hopefully I will get my hands on gh6 sometime
So, what is the crop factor on the GH6? One of my beefs with m43 is you basically have to double the focal length for your lens vs. full frame. I have two GH4s and recently got an S5, which I love.
Double, same as the gh4 and 5 😊
Incredible low light performance. I'm wonder if it's better then om1.
For me ProRes recording is big because I use ProRes all the time. This means I can add another camera to my kit without buying another Atomos recorder. I also like the USB power. I have a Mk 2 which uses USB power. This is much more convenient than using the NPF batteries on my other GH5’s.
Nice video
Thanks for the AF test. I was wondering if you have any Sigma MFT lenses. Is it true they pulse a lot less than the Panasonic lenses in video CAF?
I don’t have any sigma glass for m43 unfortunately but I do have 4 sigma lenses on my full frame lumix, and I have to say in my experience the opposite is true! My sigma glass pulses so much more and hunts more on my S5. This might not be the same on m43 though
@@MicroFourNerds okay, thanks for letting me know. 🙏
How was I not subscribed before?!
After watching Patrick Tomasso and Gerald Undone I was left feeling a bit underwhelmed by the GH6. But your review alongside Potato Jets was far more positive.
I'm a full frame shooter but this camera for the first time has interested me in M43.
The 10-25 f1.7 is exactly the focal range and fstop I use in my work.
The thought of going into my work with one lens is really uplifting (literally). 😆
Question is it fast to move back and forth from photo to video for hybrid work.
That lens is just amazing, and one of the strengths of the system how you can have one lens to replace several others!
It’s very fast to switch between photo and video, there’s a few ways to do it. You can use your C modes on the dial - there are 4 - so you could have your favourite two video settings and then two photo settings and you’d just have to switch one dial for everything to change. This even presets shutter speeds and colour profiles so very fast.
Another way to do it is set your most used video function, and shoot away in aperture mode, then whenever you press the red button for video it’ll automatically start recording in the last settings on the movie dial
You are the best
I also think that checking the focus while the camera is very valuable.
So valuable! I didn’t realise how much I would want it until I started using it. So many times (especially during weddings for me, when couples move about during a ceremony for instance) that I wish I could punch in and check. And now finally I can!
Beginning film student here and I've been looking at cameras, albeit probably prematurely, but I've been looking at the S5 as my first camera. Now that the gh6 is out in wondering if I should go with the S5 or the GH6. Any thoughts?
I probably wouldn’t have bought the s5 if the gh6 was on the market. I’m selling my S1 to buy the gh6. Especially for filmmaking specifically! The s5 (for me) the only advantages is low light photography for tricky weddings. If I was video only, the gh6 does everything you’ll need and a whole lot more
You're a solid drummer. Good review.
Thank you! 🙏 We whipped up this little composition specifically for this video, so it needed to be “talk over-able” for the most part but I did manage a cheeky fill or two haha. So much fun to make 😁
@@MicroFourNerds You did a good job. The guitar player is good too.
@@canturgan my husband was on guitar ☺️ going to use him again for some more comparison shots soon!
@@MicroFourNerds Do you ever play acoustic drums?
@@canturgan I do - I have a Mapex Pro M set in the garage, but I don’t get to play often as the neighbours will kill me. It’s always fun to set them up and go wild for a few hours tho!
For anyone that may care, I just did a VERY quick test, comparing the Phase One's 150mp (~550mb file), to the GH6 HR 100mp (a ~270mb file, in jpg format). The upshoot: The final visual resolution was VERY-VERY close. Amazing on any level, but particularly when you realize you are comparing a $50,000 camera, to a $2,200 one. (I did not compare color or dynamic range, or anything else.)
Photography took a back seat on this review thus, I assume video is your calling. Thank you for all the other stuff which still has me on the fence, ha!
If you’d like to see more photography from the GH6, I just took it to the Faroe Islands! It did brilliantly! The weather sealing came in super handy haha that should be my next video on the channel 😊
@@MicroFourNerds I will do that. The dilemma I have is that I'm shooting all Oly glass and I do occasional videos (That was my calling for years) but now mostly photography which iss why with the Oly gllass I'm thinking OM-1. I have the G9 and the Em1mkii so one will go along with the new purchase. Looking forward to your pictures!!
@@MicroFourNerds Where's my link? :)
the top end cfexpress cards are so fast, 3 times the speed of SSD, i can see codec likes 12 bit 4-2-2 in 5.7K and C4K on the future firmwares
Have you used the Lumix gx85? If so would you recommend the investment into the GH6 for a recreational user? I do love the small body size of the gx85. I'm Tempted to get the GH6, but feel like I haven't used my gx85 enough. My main lens is the Lumix 25mm 1.7
I have had the gx85, it’s a great camera! I think the gh6 is a completely different beast, and very video centric. I might wait until they inevitably refresh the G9 line with these new photo features. The bodies might be smaller (no need for a fan!) and it’ll be cheaper because you pay mostly for the video features on gh6. If it’s more for video, the gh6 is amazing 😁
11:10 did you mix up the GH5 and the GH6? To me the one marked "GH5" looks better than the softness and smoothness of the "GH6".
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When you did the autofocus you were central on the GH6 when holding object but the others still had your face in shot, wondered if it was a little bit unfair to the S5.
I think there might be an element of that, the gh6 was definitely the one in the best position. I tried to make it as fair as possible, but the space I had was very small. I also think, watching it back, because the wireless monitor was on the gh6, I tended to look down or away (at the monitor) when I was testing the gh6, which might have helped as well because my face wasn’t as visible.
Looks nice, but if a camera needs a internal fan I personally just wouldn't trust it as much as the om1 and I just need good 1081.
I was quite anxious about the fan - I’ve never used one in a camera before - but it was totally fine. Made no noise and is still completely weather sealed.
I got it soaked numerous times in the storms the uk has been having recently! Haha
Looks great as a video camera. They ditched the 4k photo mode though ☹️ I was hoping for something new with that.
They don't need 4K Photo, because you can just extract stills from video. Sean Robinson was explaining that on the release video.
@@williamburkholder769 4k photo is more than extracting frames from video.
Yes love that feature on my G9 too; for now I’m keeping my G9 and down the line after. More people have tested it buy GH6 ( dec )
So with the addition of the fan, does that mean there's no weather sealing anymore?
It is totally weather sealed still, even with the fan 😊 somehow! It’s gone through the same testing as other weather sealed certified cameras and passed.
Is the kit lens 12-60 f 2.8 - 4 good for this camera? I am looking to pick one up for run n gun style videography and take some photos/videos for my friend at his concerts
It's honestly my fave stock lens! I've reviewed it recently in my "what's in my camera bag? Travel edition" video 😊
I am going to give it a watch. Right now I can buy the GH6 for $1,300 used USD and $1,800 used USD with the that kit lens. I was wondering if I should just get the camera body and spend it the money on a lens. I need something that can be very versatile, has low-light capabilities. @@MicroFourNerds
Good grief what happened to the dog on the left at 2:26 lol . Regarding the noise comparisons, did you use the same NR settings? Because it's pretty stellar if you did.
Yes I kept everything exactly the same on all the cameras and even shot with the exact same lens on the gh5/gh6 😊 the dog park was…. A very bad idea 😂 they’ve had two baths so far and they still aren’t clean! The weather said it was clearing up but then storm Franklain came rolling in and we ended up drenched AND in a hail storm 😂