As a monthly welkin spender I saved for a very long time for Mavuika. I ended up getting her to C6R2 and a C2R1 Citlali within 680 pulls which is the luckiest I’ve ever been in a gacha game. I know all that luck doesn’t mean much since Genshin is just a game, but I feel like I’m having more fun playing these two characters than I have had in years.
It's hard for me to tell right now. I have C1 Arly with a Homa, and C0 Mavuika with 1000 Blazing Suns, however my Mav far from equally developed due to the weekly boss limitation. If when my Mav is level 90 and double crowned and she's out damaging my Arly, I will be sad. Not because it almost feels like a waste of primos, but because she really didn't get enough time to shine in the spotlight.
She can be a support, sub-dps, main dps, has exploration utility and deals insane frontloaded damage, requires no er, easy to build. Her only con is that you kinda have to play her with characters from her nation (assuming 6.0 Snez won't continue the fighting spirit mechanic).
@@antonioa6089no lol she can be used in any team xiangling can be used in as an off field support and perform better because you can burst in between for 200-300k, she has great future potential and you don’t necessarily “need” natlan supports in teams that are NOT playing her as a hypercarry.
@ but what’s the point of locking her potential behind other specific 5* units besides marketing? Come one. It’s awful. She’s powerful but they tried a new formula that’s there to make money. And give her 2 years. We’ll see if she has that big of a future potential. In 2 ys we’ll be in snezhnya with new gimmicks (that I hope will be more forgiving). She won’t have new teams. There’s no creativity, no enrichment, no change. This flaw can’t be worked around like Furina’s which needed only a healer
@@antonioa6089 she isn’t really locked behind 5 star characters man, just kachina’s e and q are enough to fill her burst up to max but yeah the damage will be low because kachina isn’t that good of a support, the rest of the team can be any support in the game that provides either vv shred like sucrose, kazuha or cryo enabler like diona, rosaria Now i do get your point because with these teams the damage will be atleast 40% lower than her best hypercarry team, but in a off field support team she doesn’t need her burst at all so the natlan characters don’t even matter you can put her in any team that requires an off field pyro damage/application. And she will keep getting her burst back between rotation from time to time anyway for that big boom.
@ yea I get your point but aren’t you sad that we’re pulling for a future XL replacement? I am. They could have designed her better so to make her accessible to old and future teams. Honestly I don’t like this turn of events if they plan to introduce a restictive gimmick for every region. Btw I like Mavuika, I’m just sad she’s not as versatile as other archons they released
There is no reason you should regret unless you feel stupid spending hundreds or thousands for her team. I don't think anyone thinks she is bad but just restrictive and expensive to bring her above other options.
This is it. She’s absolutely a stellar DPS. But she’s locked behind other Natlan characters. We’ll see in 2ys what an enrichment her team will get: none.
@@antonioa6089so with this logic it’s not how long will mavuika last, but how long will xilonen last. And xilonen looks like a staple for a long, long time. Will she get many new natlan characters in 2 yrs? Prolly not. Will she get many new characters that can be used with her+xilonen? Probably..
@@antonioa6089 you said her team would get no enrichment. I told you why that was probably not the case. Debunking your logic, and helping you look at it smarter. You can keep hating to make yourself feel better though
Reminds me of hutao mains shit9ng on arlechino as mid tao because she's On par with hutao damage when she's not even max talent and once palyers max their Arlenchino there's no going back same with Mavuika now not yet crown and yet she's now the best speed run character in the game
Obv the answer is no knowing u 😭😭😭. Arle u had a great run on this chanel but ur time has come (i think this has been the fastest powercreep since diluc hutao)
The one advantage you didn’t give to Arlechino and the most crucial one is no natlan character in team with Mav😂 Her damage will take a 40% dip. I think what frustrates people most about Mav is her design and kit is scummy. It’s made for the sake of profit it feels horrible being gatekept by natlan characters, both for exploration and combat. Also for damage it’s legit locked behind a second 5* the 4* simply cannot compare.
@@emperoremperor7514 she is much better than Neuvillette, Her DPR is higher than his even if he has his 5 star weapon and she is just as brain dead to use. facts are facts. only in your imagination is Neuvillette stronger which is ironic calling someone else out when they are in fact right
Also correct me if im wrong, but in the long run arlecchino is more confined to single target while mav has that no thinking aoe. Also off field application like raiden. But if youre up against single bosses then arlecchino will be better? Also another big factor is mav is constricted to being played with other natlan characters for maximizing burst potential. And those natlan characters youre forced to have on your team can all be powercrept one day. Meanwhile arlechino doesnt rely on anybody. You can always just swap her into any one of YOUR made teams in the future.
playing arlecchino is much more easier, you can swap to her at any time like when you forget to use your support buff, and she has more consistent damage.
I wish this comment everyone can know (some people saying in showcase video that if her skill crown she can do more damage 😂😂 sorry about those) Note: they are saying in showcase video
@@IKIGAIofficial kazuha still hasn’t been powercrept since 1.6 all we do is use him in the same team. It wasn’t until mavuika that Xilonen was just the outright better choice. It’s more likely that mavuika gets powercrept herself before her supports.
But hoyo won't let archons be powercreep at the field they're best in, except the first archon, venti, that's understandable because he was the first few characters in genshin, that's also the reason why some early 4 stars are pretty broken like fischl, Bennet, xiangliang. Pyro archon is made to be the best dps in the game, she will be top 3 until the end.@@TheGenshinIdiot
My monopyro mavuika does 500 k + burst and 87 k- 117 k charge attacks, while having better aoe, super armor and being able to heal - its c0 wgs r2 mind you, with 6/7/8 talents, my top 4% pjws r0 arle is not even close. I do have c2r1 xilonen, but i used same teams - xilonen, kazuha, c6 mist benny
I have around 100 pulls and 30 pity on char banner, should I pull for Mauvika or get my Arlecchino to c1 and try for her weapon? Also I have no characters from Natlan and only really use Bennet and my budget Ayaka for Arlecchino.
Its honestly whoever you like more, if youre willing to wait to get other natlan characters for mavuika then she will prove to be better but its nowhere near an easy choice.
@ my arle currently does 20-40k damage on NA without supports but struggles with being in interrupted, but then again I might need another carry to do both sides of spiral abyss. Or maybe Citlali is the one to pull since I don’t have any shielded.
Lowkey citlali over muvauika since you have arle. I'd also think about c1 simply foe the 4 stars on arle banner. Chev and lan Yan are gonna be great pulls. Plus rosaria if you don't have her cons
I feel like expected that Mavuika is gonna beat Arlecchino, she's an Archon. However, Arlecchino is much more f2p, most of the other 5 star weapons (like jade wing) work great on her and not a massive power difference, but also in general most 5 star signatures give the character a significant power increase. Mavuika loses in the fact that without Xilonen and or Citlali, she will be overpowered by Arlecchino and massively as her next slots would be Kachina and Ororon, whereas Arlecchino can work with melt, vape, overload, mono, and still output good numbers without specific characters.
@Ephscg the other 5 star claymores work great on mavuika too. she just needs the 1 character though and I run Xilonen on all those arlecchino teams you mentioned.
Those are good points but in my case, it's smarter to wish for Alecchino. I have a lvl 90 jade winged, 2 white tassels and a strong love for the overload archetype, while my Chevreuse is just at C1. Also Lan Yan is shapping out to be a great support as well.
Thats why they put chevruse there, that swhy they put her in raiden banner too. Thats why they gave Chiori weapon with Xilonen Its just a way to indirectly buff a character, give them good banners so people that get them have them stronger Hoyo been doing this for years
Yeah if you have a decent 5-star weapon for her then I understand. Hoenstly though Mavuika could end up being better in overload too, small chance since you would have to get rid of fischl for ororon though.
@@TheGenshinIdiot Anyone that hates on her power level as a DPS is insane. People hating BECAUSE she's our 100th Pyro on-field DPS is understandable and I kinda agree. I would've preferred her to be mid on-field at C0 and be a great off-field DPS/applicator and then scale up her on-field performance with sig/constellations like Raiden
Don't you think Arlecchino being able to maintain infusion without time restrictions , and being able to swap in and swap out freely has any practical/team building advantages?
Honestly not that much, due to how generally the good supports dont force her to do that. Kazuha would be the only one, or I guess anyone who uses VV. However now we dont even use those characters in either team and just use Xilonen Bennett Citlali.
i dont regret my girl per se, but after months of seeing her leaked gameplay, getting doesnt feel super hype anymore. i want more events to use her in(spiral abyss is ugh)
Last year I was debating on pulling arlecchino bc I already had Hu Tao but I really like her design but when early leaks said her weapon was a scythe I became hyped but then when I found out that not only does her weapon look like another generic polearm unless you use it on arlecchino then it becomes the cool scythe but also if you don’t have her signature the way it tries to replicate her scythe is so pathetic it made me not what to pull for her anymore, not enough ppl complained about how predatory that is imo ( but honestly Genshin doesn’t listen to their players so they wouldn’t have changed it anyway lmao 💀 ) but since mavuika is better and more fun to play im so happy i never pulled for arlecchino bc ik I wouldn’t play her anymore if i did so it all worked out in the end 😅😅
@@TheGenshinIdiot yea that’s really bad but if I’m comparing arlecchino on release vs mavuika now I still think arlecchino is worse since they haven’t done that with any other character and she was already the most hyped character in fontaine and for mavuika it’s easier to save to guarantee 2 characters in case you lose the 50/50 vs a weapon which you need to save for 3 weapons in case you lose the 50/50 twice ( at the time ) but comparing now i would say mavuika is worse since you’re guaranteed the weapon if you lose the 50/50 once, and i honestly wouldn’t care if it didn’t have the stupid looking scythe if you don’t have her signature bc it makes it extremely noticeable that you don’t have it And I can admit I’m very biased since I was already planning to pull for xilonen and citlali before knowing mavuika needed them and in 4 years of playing I’ve only pulled for 5 star weapons 4 times and EVERY SINGLE TIME I lost the 50/50 twice and needed to pull 3 times to get the weapons 😭😭 ( that’s how I have r5 WGS 💀💀 )
This unit is so broken man, Another thing I want to add, people saying Arle is more future proff, and guess what, just get C1 Mav and the discussion is over, couse she won't need any Natlan units anymore, and on top of that as an off fielder she's a better Xianling in 90% of the teams.
From other CCs testing as well as my own; Arle is way better in overload, depends in mono pyro, depends in vape, and is a lot worse than mavuika in melt. Overload: Arle triggers fischl alot in overload and is just alot better than mavuika especially in the second rotation where arle gets stronger while mavuika gets weaker due to not having max FS. Mono pyro: it depends on how many cycles it takes to clear the boss/waves. Let’s use a boss as example (cuz easier to gauge). Let’s assume both arle and mav is using bennett, xilonen and kazuha. If mavuika doesn’t clear the boss in one cycle then her next rotation will not be full FS and she’ll have a weaker second rotation. If arle doesn’t clear the boss in one cycle then her next rotation actually becomes stronger cuz she gets more BoL. So it rlly depends whether ur mavuika is so much stronger than ur arle that she can easily one rotate a boss, otherwise in most cases arle is still better mono pyro. Vape: arle uses mainly yelan, candace and xingqiu while mavuika kinda only uses furina. A trend u will start to notice with mavuika is that all her good teammates outisde of bennett r 5 stars while arle can use three 4 stars very well. In a rotation both arle and mavuika with their respective supports can hit 5 vapes (mavuika needs a bit of combo to achieve this) and it comes down to personal preference cuz the gap is not that big. Melt: not even a question. Mavuika melt is the best team in the game and the craziest part is that at c0 u can one rotate most abyss bosses, given u need citlali and xilonen. Another pro abt mavuika melt is that u can have two top tier teams on both chambers: mavuika melt and neuvi/furina/baizhu/kazuha. Basically, always choose mavuika over arle if u have citlali and xilonen, otherwise it’s up for debate.
I want to test out Mavuika vs Arle in the mono pyro team but yeah overload probably will be better since Fischl wouldn't be as good as ororon. Eh ive never cared about how expensive a team is and I imagine that Mavuika is going to just be outright better than Arle in vape teams due to how close they already were in testing.
I couldn't resist anymore. Was going for Arle but i manage to pull Mavuika on and got her. I only have 3 natlans which is Chasca, Citlali, and Kachina. Hope that is good without Xilonen
Dude u know what's scary about mavuika? The fact there is still more character from natlan to release maybe (I guessing) the change other natlan chara could be support who suppress other but for now all we can do is wait for that to happen
They'll release Iansan, who is electro. Varesa who is also electro and Ifa (who is don't know what element but didn't look Pyro). Then, we will go to that region with the project Stuza gang and I doubt we will get more Nathan Characters for a while. At any rate, Bennett being power crept is an unlikely scenario. They made his kit too good. At least, we can ditch Xiangling with Mavuika...
I skipped Mavukas Sig for Citlali and have now my full Natlan Team with Xilonen and Mualani. I never used Benny again after 1.2 Dragonspine Event. Waifu Teams ftw.
I was gonna pull for arle but I didn't have any weapon for her and I didn't want to put on her that 3 star weapon bc of the low base atk and I don't want to use Bennett so I pulled mav
Mavuika user here c1 Mavuika with r1 Wolfs gravestone mostly defense percent on all my artifacts Sadly cause I got that itto curse, BUT even when I barely have 3k attack my ult is hitting for 138k to almost 200k No melt or vape In fact with zhonli neuvilette and bennett on team my Benne is only level 4 has no artifacts and No talent upgrades he is literally there as a mascot, Neuv is there for when I run into pyro slimes and don't feel like using mavuika's 19876 normal charged attack dmg and yes that's physical damage without a phys goblet. Oh did I mention I Ult constantly in fact I never don't have her ult so all the nay sayers are on something strong.
@@TheGenshinIdiot I just got her c1 yesterday, I've had no issues keeping fighting spirit the whole time I've been playing her, The only issue I've had was her interrupt res being so good I didn't notice her shield dropped off during Dragon Defier his ult nuked her XD But pretty much everything Everyone said was a Problem is bull bunk, for instance she NEEDS natlan people me with no natlan compaions XD, She can't gain fighting spirit well without natlan companions My unga bunga brain ulting three to 5 times. That was even without ult. Difference I notice Is I spend less time applying other elements or focusing putting another character into rotation, with me mavuika has 99% field time I hit her skill the moment it's ready.
@Swing-q7x I am one of the guys that only used the environment to make reactions, and now it's terminal cause I only have the brain capacity for shield MAVUIKA! then I pat myself on the back cause I'm dumb XD but I do want to use shenhe for melt she also boosts normal and charged attack damage, could be fun.
I have both C6R1 Mavuika and C6R1 Arle, it's not even close in terms of damage using their best teams. Mavuika has much higher frontload dmg than Arle.
I think in reactionless teams arle will still win but it will be so close it doesnt matter. And if they were both C0 mavuika might have the advantage since she has hyper armor something arle doesnt get until C1. As for overload alot of people have C6 fischl. But mavuika will want C6 ororon which very few people have. I think with C6 ororon mavuika will pull ahead.
Whoever says she is great needs to remember that once we leave natlan there will be no more natlan characters anymore or at least won’t release for quite a while. She’s locked to xilonen and Citlali pretty much forever 😂
The only thing I really have against Mavuika is that she requires the 3 best support characters, weakening the second team. And her gameplay is already starting to boring me, to be honest. But she's so great in openworld and for big numbers ^^
@@Whoisyou123 sure, I know, but if you're concerned about what each character can do at his best, you only have one really OP team for Mavuika, the one that requires the best supports and weakens the second team. Let's wait and see what the upcoming characters have to offer!
@@Whoisyou123 I think you're right, there's no point in having the best team for each DPS, game content is simple enough, let's say that's how I have the most fun.
I'm just sad that the strongest pyro dps is not someone I'd personally like to play 😞 on top of that i don't like her teammates.. I'm not hating on her character, actually she's pretty cool. it's just that everyone is so hyped and she's the strongest dps, but I don't enjoy her at all... but when someone is so meta defining you kinda wonder if you should just pull for them or no (I think I most likely won't in the end 😞)
@ yeah and it bothers me the amount of hate she gets in the community too. Like she’s a pretty solid character to pull for but people are hell bent that she doesn’t provide phlogiston use to all characters so therefore she’s bad. That’s basically what it boils down to.
@@TheGenshinIdiot mavuikas damage per rotation is 126k at C0 investment. Neuvillette is 90k i really don't see how its not powercreep personally. these are not just calcs i pulled out my backside either genshin scientist, zajeff, jstern all have her around this level. she is actually easy to play and her Aoe is huge. can't see how it is even a discussion objectively from the data. if you want to argue C2 vs C2 i have no idea but C0 to C0 and R1 TO R1 (which is how i judge a unit personally) the calcs don't lie
@@UnbelievableLins because the vast majority of players have skill issues. i play her and she is better than him for sure. mavuika is also way easier to play and lets not exagerate mualanis DPR is 95k and neuv's is 90k she barely powercrept him. not enough to say she was the best, mavuika is 126k the difference is absurd better than his R1 and C1 i believe
Guys, archon won't get powercreep in their own field. Zhongli will be the best shielder, raiden will be the best battery, nahida will be the best dendro applier, mavuika will be the best dps. Venti umm.. uhh idk
@UnbelievableLins are you taking about lanyan at c2 where 40% of shield strength recovers when a party member deals damage? I don't know any character other than her who can theoretically powercreep zhongli in shield strength?
Bro I don't know why but for some reason my mavuika is doing "255163" melt with EM piece and doing "736961" melt with atk% piece both sands I am confused Pearl id I improved on what you said by somewhat what I had and was left confused
@TheGenshinIdiot Bro after you said so I tried melting with 303 EM time piece mavuika almost 4-5 times and result was almost similar I recorded and saw it melt only 180k around each time and charged 66077 but with atk% time piece she deals nuke of 737943 and can't see charged bcz enemies never survived after that on overworld boss of natlan that purple flower(Lv.93) I checked both doing melt in rec properly
i find the limitations argument funny to me, cause people act like mavuika is itto/ayaka/cyno/xiao that need 3 dedicated suppports, you really just need xilo and benny and can do whatever tf you want after that and its not like every other dps besides clo/mualani and maybe arle/neuvi needs one specific support to work right? tao? need xq/yelan or youre cooked haitham? its either hb or hb, and you need kuki/raidEM for that hell even arl and neuvi kinda loose a limb without furina/benny respectively samee for every other atk scaler and benny and i wont even talk about cyno/eula/itto/ayaka/xiao cause they are this problem elevated to a tier of its own but i dont see pople complaining as much about it like i see with mavuika and its not like she is asking for some niche sup like shenhe or xianyun, she is asking for one if not the best support in the game that as you said, people would get down the line anyways good seeing a good take in a ocean of stupidity
Idk about arle and Neuvillette. They can run without Bennett/Furina easily, however you never do because those are the best characters in all their teams. Its exactly like Xilonen and how she would be on every single Mavuika team regardless of her team but because its forced people hate it.
@@nicodemostrabalho6991 Yeah you can but its a way harder fall off since her Fighting spirit matters so much to her damage, not maxing it out is really painful
@@nicodemostrabalho6991 shes still good with just Kachina just not in talks for #1, but if you like the character certainly enough power to get by until Xilonen rerun.
she is the best dps in the game ... because she cant be interrupted while doing charge atk, she has lot of f2p weapon options ... only flaw with this char is she needs natlan niche but its not big deal
@@Black_widower99 any character needs certain teammates for their damage to be considered top of the rest. And even then, Mavuika can just play with Bennett, Kachina and Furina and will still have 80k dps teams
@TheGenshinIdiot I just don't like the straight up power creep (and I dislike her playstyle so I don't want to pull for her) which makes me worry more about the future of genshin tbh. With simple but disproportionately powerful characters like her and neuvillete, my favourite characters like lyney feel much worse just because the content is getting harder and they can't really compete (yes you can clear but slower than the brain-dead characters which really doesn't feel right). Sorry about the rant I just don't like how the meta is developing that's all
Honestly I’d say pull now if you like her ! We all have a free kachina and pyro traveller so you’ll have something to run with her now and then pull for any natlan supports ( if you want them ) later
@@Efgand0894 probably going to be the ceiling for pyro dps’ for a while tho , it’s going to take them a while to out dps the pyro archon in pyro unless they ever release a pyro sovereign or we get some kind of celestia pyro dps unit which probably won’t be for at least two years
It just like raiden everyone harsh on her on the first release and yet she one of the best battery, supp or sec dps or even main dps Same thing with furina she to depend on healer bla bla Just look at it she become one of the best support I thing poeple just like drifing on wave bandwagon without really looking at the potential character have
Yeah I feel like people are going to stop talking about the natlan restriction sooner or later because once you just have Xilonen its not even a restriction
She’s strong indeed. No one ever doubt it. The issue is her accessibility which with all Natlan character she needs to optimally work it’s a lot of investment. She’s a luxury pull. Arlecchino is a great investment also because she’s not locked behind other characters specifically. Arle teams will get richer and richer while Mavuika’s locked with exclusively these units for the future. In 2 ys we’ll be in Snezhnya with new gimmicks (which I hope will be more accessible and forgiving then natlan’s), no new teams for mavuika, no enrichment.
In terms of better investment as you said, mavuika is still better overall. Xilonen is not a niche character, shes the pinnacle of buffer in most teams now anyway so i dont see a downside of some sort if you really were to compare better investment... Saying a character locking behind other character specifically as you claim is a stretch if you think about it. Chances are, you will get a good support for your main DPS if you play the game. People would go as far as full premium team for neuvi/arle with supports all being c2r1, whilst all you need is 1 Xilonen for Mavuika to start to burst spam, let alone the buffs xilonen could also offer.
@ Other archons are the best in versatility. I just don’t like they gatekeeped her in this way. It’s a preference. Mavuika doesn’t add anything, she needs a premium team, as all dps want. But there are dps that are more accessible and versatile.
@ just think about Hu Tao, she’s still used changing supports! She’s a good example of a future proof character. That’s all I’m saying. Mavuika won’t have the same degree of enrichment with time
@@awaidz look I like Mavuika. And your points I find valid. But I just am sad of this flaw. I got Xilonen… so theoretically I could pull her. I just don’t like how they treated her gatekeeping her true potential, more so if we think she’s an Archon! I mean if they did this with a random unit I would have find it ok, but she’s an archon
I don't know if Arlechinno does more damage than Mavuika in overload and mono pyro, but I find Mavuika in mono pyro and overload crazy strong. I know melt is better, but I find Mavuika good in every teams as a dps when I have a Natlan characters on the team.
Mavuika is not better than Arlechino. I have them both at C0R1. Mavuika is great for her Utility, she can be on field, off field, finally we have a character that can bench Xiangling. Arlechino however is just a better overall hyper carry, she's just not as flexible as Mavuika is.
Mavuika does more max dmg, is easier to use, has more f2p weapons and also easier to build cos of codex, can be healed and has 100% IR, the only thing arle has over her is flexibility And mavuika can also effectively be used in dual carry teams like navia teams and clorinde overload, and as a good off fielder for kinich, mualani, ayato, rizzley, itto etc and even has a single target international team w childe Mavuika is just better sorry bro 😹😹
Because he is using serpents spine which is 20% worse than mavuikas sig and why is it fair to compare a character with leveled talents to a character with unleveled talents ☠️
Problem with watching videos like this is people tend to focus on mavuika high burst DMG with a specific equip team where arlechinno can release insane DMG regardless who's in her team plus arlechinno is self sustained. The bandwagon is high whenever a new character get release to get praise from hoyo
@@TheGenshinIdiot I have watched your videos and other videos alike and u still need the right set up for mauvika to make those high nukes while arlechinno is raw damage that's why she can work extremely well in mono pyro and any team that needs a strong dps. There's no way we can argue her consistent high damage regardless of the team. Respectfully Let's stop with the power creep and downplay opinions
@@ice-zero4389 and arle can only get healed by her burst and if she doesn't play a shielder she is also at risk of getting knocked down Meanwhile mavuika is CONSTANTLY getting healed by benny+xilo and can't be knocked down ☠️
Why would you ever play mono pyro arlecino? it doesnt make sense. Its so much worse than vape and now melt. Mauvika dmg is impressive not gonna lie, she will probably outdps my c1 arlecino when i max mauvika out, but arlecino is much more flexible and more f2p friendly and i have xilonen and citlali. They need to finally make bennet alternative so i could play both of them in spirall abyss.
watch him change his yt pfp to mavuika
Give it 2 weeks
Nooooo😭
It can't be😂😂
Ehh 5 more days max bruv
Lol
Do i regret Mavuika? , Red: No , Ends Video *
Absolute cinema
As a monthly welkin spender I saved for a very long time for Mavuika. I ended up getting her to C6R2 and a C2R1 Citlali within 680 pulls which is the luckiest I’ve ever been in a gacha game. I know all that luck doesn’t mean much since Genshin is just a game, but I feel like I’m having more fun playing these two characters than I have had in years.
@@KC_Smooth wow that’s really great
Insane luck wtf 😮
@@Coatez2000Yeah I think the demon of gacha game luck is coming for my soul as a payment.
@@KC_Smooth the gacha reaper is gonna cook you so hard for this man
do I reget mavurika?
him: No
alright thanks! bye
Dammit I was about to say that 😂😂
@@Devilman267 ok I’ll drag you through a 10 minute video next time
@@TheGenshinIdiot make sure to put some mrbeast clickbait thumbnails next time
@@TheGenshinIdiotno pls , be like moist critical🙏
It's hard for me to tell right now. I have C1 Arly with a Homa, and C0 Mavuika with 1000 Blazing Suns, however my Mav far from equally developed due to the weekly boss limitation. If when my Mav is level 90 and double crowned and she's out damaging my Arly, I will be sad. Not because it almost feels like a waste of primos, but because she really didn't get enough time to shine in the spotlight.
I have C2 raiden with her signature .... sad she can't even do 1M but it's ok she carried me in the past and I'm happy ( now i have Mavuika )
Yeah 8 months isnt actually that long for genshin "powercreep"
again knowing what he will say before the video starts
@harshilsingh4516 I mean it’s clear as day
She can be a support, sub-dps, main dps, has exploration utility and deals insane frontloaded damage, requires no er, easy to build.
Her only con is that you kinda have to play her with characters from her nation (assuming 6.0 Snez won't continue the fighting spirit mechanic).
That is a great disadvantage imo. She has no future potential…
@@antonioa6089no lol she can be used in any team xiangling can be used in as an off field support and perform better because you can burst in between for 200-300k, she has great future potential and you don’t necessarily “need” natlan supports in teams that are NOT playing her as a hypercarry.
@ but what’s the point of locking her potential behind other specific 5* units besides marketing? Come one. It’s awful. She’s powerful but they tried a new formula that’s there to make money. And give her 2 years. We’ll see if she has that big of a future potential. In 2 ys we’ll be in snezhnya with new gimmicks (that I hope will be more forgiving). She won’t have new teams. There’s no creativity, no enrichment, no change. This flaw can’t be worked around like Furina’s which needed only a healer
@@antonioa6089 she isn’t really locked behind 5 star characters man, just kachina’s e and q are enough to fill her burst up to max but yeah the damage will be low because kachina isn’t that good of a support, the rest of the team can be any support in the game that provides either vv shred like sucrose, kazuha or cryo enabler like diona, rosaria
Now i do get your point because with these teams the damage will be atleast 40% lower than her best hypercarry team,
but in a off field support team she doesn’t need her burst at all so the natlan characters don’t even matter you can put her in any team that requires an off field pyro damage/application.
And she will keep getting her burst back between rotation from time to time anyway for that big boom.
@ yea I get your point but aren’t you sad that we’re pulling for a future XL replacement? I am. They could have designed her better so to make her accessible to old and future teams. Honestly I don’t like this turn of events if they plan to introduce a restictive gimmick for every region.
Btw I like Mavuika, I’m just sad she’s not as versatile as other archons they released
There is no reason you should regret unless you feel stupid spending hundreds or thousands for her team. I don't think anyone thinks she is bad but just restrictive and expensive to bring her above other options.
This is it. She’s absolutely a stellar DPS. But she’s locked behind other Natlan characters. We’ll see in 2ys what an enrichment her team will get: none.
I thinks she is bad =)))
@@antonioa6089so with this logic it’s not how long will mavuika last, but how long will xilonen last. And xilonen looks like a staple for a long, long time. Will she get many new natlan characters in 2 yrs? Prolly not. Will she get many new characters that can be used with her+xilonen? Probably..
@ listen good for you if you like her. Nope, my logic it’s not the one you used.
@@antonioa6089 you said her team would get no enrichment. I told you why that was probably not the case. Debunking your logic, and helping you look at it smarter. You can keep hating to make yourself feel better though
I love to the point answers to video titles.
I was on the fence for a while but committed. Just for her E alone I enjoy her very much.
@@yannaedc5934 nice
@@TheGenshinIdiot I was against the bike. But now I refer to it as The Steed xD
when you're in a mavuika glazing competion and your competitor is red warrior...
“Mavuika glazing complet “ he just thinks a good character is good.
Since when is stating facts considered “glazing”?
@barmaidKisser it's just a joke, i never said she was bad
Reminds me of hutao mains shit9ng on arlechino as mid tao because she's On par with hutao damage when she's not even max talent and once palyers max their Arlenchino there's no going back same with Mavuika now not yet crown and yet she's now the best speed run character in the game
Obv the answer is no knowing u 😭😭😭. Arle u had a great run on this chanel but ur time has come (i think this has been the fastest powercreep since diluc hutao)
Yeah sadly
The one advantage you didn’t give to Arlechino and the most crucial one is no natlan character in team with Mav😂
Her damage will take a 40% dip.
I think what frustrates people most about Mav is her design and kit is scummy. It’s made for the sake of profit it feels horrible being gatekept by natlan characters, both for exploration and combat. Also for damage it’s legit locked behind a second 5* the 4* simply cannot compare.
Yeah but Xilonen was used in all the Arlecchino teams too because shes just that good
Mavuika is just too good I really can't believe it neuvi and arle got powercrept lol
Neuvillette?😂😂 in your head maybe
@@emperoremperor7514 she is much better than Neuvillette, Her DPR is higher than his even if he has his 5 star weapon and she is just as brain dead to use. facts are facts. only in your imagination is Neuvillette stronger which is ironic calling someone else out when they are in fact right
@@emperoremperor7514neuvi got powercrept by mualani months ago
@@emperoremperor7514 mavuika is stronger blud
@@thechillryan777Neuvillette is way more flexible, he is hydro, he is self sustaining, he has aoe , he gave us 1600 primos, he Is just THAT GUY...
Also correct me if im wrong, but in the long run arlecchino is more confined to single target while mav has that no thinking aoe. Also off field application like raiden.
But if youre up against single bosses then arlecchino will be better?
Also another big factor is mav is constricted to being played with other natlan characters for maximizing burst potential. And those natlan characters youre forced to have on your team can all be powercrept one day.
Meanwhile arlechino doesnt rely on anybody.
You can always just swap her into any one of YOUR made teams in the future.
playing arlecchino is much more easier, you can swap to her at any time like when you forget to use your support buff, and she has more consistent damage.
I wish this comment everyone can know (some people saying in showcase video that if her skill crown she can do more damage 😂😂 sorry about those)
Note: they are saying in showcase video
@@Bulbasaurrrr-uo8oeu could not say it better than this 👍🏾
@@IKIGAIofficial kazuha still hasn’t been powercrept since 1.6 all we do is use him in the same team. It wasn’t until mavuika that Xilonen was just the outright better choice. It’s more likely that mavuika gets powercrept herself before her supports.
But hoyo won't let archons be powercreep at the field they're best in, except the first archon, venti, that's understandable because he was the first few characters in genshin, that's also the reason why some early 4 stars are pretty broken like fischl, Bennet, xiangliang. Pyro archon is made to be the best dps in the game, she will be top 3 until the end.@@TheGenshinIdiot
My monopyro mavuika does 500 k + burst and 87 k- 117 k charge attacks, while having better aoe, super armor and being able to heal - its c0 wgs r2 mind you, with 6/7/8 talents, my top 4% pjws r0 arle is not even close. I do have c2r1 xilonen, but i used same teams - xilonen, kazuha, c6 mist benny
Thats pretty strong for mono pyro, cant wait till weekly reset
I hit 900k on my c3 Mavuika with Rosaria and xilonen
@@jayvenom9735 I hit 1.2 million with my c0 and red horn with c0 citlali on open world mobs without food
I have around 100 pulls and 30 pity on char banner, should I pull for Mauvika or get my Arlecchino to c1 and try for her weapon?
Also I have no characters from Natlan and only really use Bennet and my budget Ayaka for Arlecchino.
Its honestly whoever you like more, if youre willing to wait to get other natlan characters for mavuika then she will prove to be better but its nowhere near an easy choice.
@ my arle currently does 20-40k damage on NA without supports but struggles with being in interrupted, but then again I might need another carry to do both sides of spiral abyss. Or maybe Citlali is the one to pull since I don’t have any shielded.
Lowkey citlali over muvauika since you have arle. I'd also think about c1 simply foe the 4 stars on arle banner. Chev and lan Yan are gonna be great pulls. Plus rosaria if you don't have her cons
I feel like expected that Mavuika is gonna beat Arlecchino, she's an Archon. However, Arlecchino is much more f2p, most of the other 5 star weapons (like jade wing) work great on her and not a massive power difference, but also in general most 5 star signatures give the character a significant power increase. Mavuika loses in the fact that without Xilonen and or Citlali, she will be overpowered by Arlecchino and massively as her next slots would be Kachina and Ororon, whereas Arlecchino can work with melt, vape, overload, mono, and still output good numbers without specific characters.
tidal shadow Mavuika-Kachina-Rosaria-Benny just slays arle in f2p investment lol, mavuika is much more easy to build and to increanse dmg
@@Tabris-G Don't tell em, another funny thing PMC/Mavuika/Bennet/Furina team also mogs arle + Yelan team, but let them cope for a couple more weeks.
@Ephscg the other 5 star claymores work great on mavuika too. she just needs the 1 character though and I run Xilonen on all those arlecchino teams you mentioned.
Mawika simp detected lol
@@awesomeatr3468 yes with an arlecchino pfp
Cant wait to double crown her talents
Same
Those are good points but in my case, it's smarter to wish for Alecchino. I have a lvl 90 jade winged, 2 white tassels and a strong love for the overload archetype, while my Chevreuse is just at C1. Also Lan Yan is shapping out to be a great support as well.
Thats why they put chevruse there, that swhy they put her in raiden banner too.
Thats why they gave Chiori weapon with Xilonen
Its just a way to indirectly buff a character, give them good banners so people that get them have them stronger
Hoyo been doing this for years
Bro pull what you like you don't need to be that concern it's a game.
Yeah if you have a decent 5-star weapon for her then I understand. Hoenstly though Mavuika could end up being better in overload too, small chance since you would have to get rid of fischl for ororon though.
With this video I'll predict an artifact set that'll make mavuika a complete powercreep in any scenario in like 3-4 patches. I'm investing rn lol
I dont know if thats going to be the case but I hope so
Enough glaze in this video to coat a thousand suns...
@@manjunath414 with how much hate she gets she deserves it
@@TheGenshinIdiot fr fr
@@TheGenshinIdiot Anyone that hates on her power level as a DPS is insane. People hating BECAUSE she's our 100th Pyro on-field DPS is understandable and I kinda agree. I would've preferred her to be mid on-field at C0 and be a great off-field DPS/applicator and then scale up her on-field performance with sig/constellations like Raiden
Mavuika is great at single target and AOE though I find Arle’s gameplay more comfy and easier to get consistent melts.
Yeah I havent mentioned AOE a lot but Im going to have to start
flower feather clan OST is goated
Yes, dont really know what it is since I only know the songs by name but yeah!
Don't you think Arlecchino being able to maintain infusion without time restrictions , and being able to swap in and swap out freely has any practical/team building advantages?
Honestly not that much, due to how generally the good supports dont force her to do that. Kazuha would be the only one, or I guess anyone who uses VV. However now we dont even use those characters in either team and just use Xilonen Bennett Citlali.
i dont regret my girl per se, but after months of seeing her leaked gameplay, getting doesnt feel super hype anymore. i want more events to use her in(spiral abyss is ugh)
This is why I try and avoid leaks, generally official reveals are just way more hype since they are closer to the characters release.
Last year I was debating on pulling arlecchino bc I already had Hu Tao but I really like her design but when early leaks said her weapon was a scythe I became hyped but then when I found out that not only does her weapon look like another generic polearm unless you use it on arlecchino then it becomes the cool scythe but also if you don’t have her signature the way it tries to replicate her scythe is so pathetic it made me not what to pull for her anymore, not enough ppl complained about how predatory that is imo ( but honestly Genshin doesn’t listen to their players so they wouldn’t have changed it anyway lmao 💀 ) but since mavuika is better and more fun to play im so happy i never pulled for arlecchino bc ik I wouldn’t play her anymore if i did so it all worked out in the end 😅😅
You could argue Mavuikas design is more predatory
@ wdym?
@@xi4nyun Because right now theres no way to max out her fighting spirit with just 4-stars
@@TheGenshinIdiot yea that’s really bad but if I’m comparing arlecchino on release vs mavuika now I still think arlecchino is worse since they haven’t done that with any other character and she was already the most hyped character in fontaine and for mavuika it’s easier to save to guarantee 2 characters in case you lose the 50/50 vs a weapon which you need to save for 3 weapons in case you lose the 50/50 twice ( at the time )
but comparing now i would say mavuika is worse since you’re guaranteed the weapon if you lose the 50/50 once, and i honestly wouldn’t care if it didn’t have the stupid looking scythe if you don’t have her signature bc it makes it extremely noticeable that you don’t have it
And I can admit I’m very biased since I was already planning to pull for xilonen and citlali before knowing mavuika needed them and in 4 years of playing I’ve only pulled for 5 star weapons 4 times and EVERY SINGLE TIME I lost the 50/50 twice and needed to pull 3 times to get the weapons 😭😭 ( that’s how I have r5 WGS 💀💀 )
This unit is so broken man, Another thing I want to add, people saying Arle is more future proff, and guess what, just get C1 Mav and the discussion is over, couse she won't need any Natlan units anymore, and on top of that as an off fielder she's a better Xianling in 90% of the teams.
Yeah, although idk if C1 is a good argument since it doesnt give that much damage boost against weapon
I lowkey do😭 i feel like now i should've pulled citlali
If you have Xilonen shes still god tier in vape teams
From other CCs testing as well as my own; Arle is way better in overload, depends in mono pyro, depends in vape, and is a lot worse than mavuika in melt.
Overload: Arle triggers fischl alot in overload and is just alot better than mavuika especially in the second rotation where arle gets stronger while mavuika gets weaker due to not having max FS.
Mono pyro: it depends on how many cycles it takes to clear the boss/waves. Let’s use a boss as example (cuz easier to gauge). Let’s assume both arle and mav is using bennett, xilonen and kazuha. If mavuika doesn’t clear the boss in one cycle then her next rotation will not be full FS and she’ll have a weaker second rotation. If arle doesn’t clear the boss in one cycle then her next rotation actually becomes stronger cuz she gets more BoL. So it rlly depends whether ur mavuika is so much stronger than ur arle that she can easily one rotate a boss, otherwise in most cases arle is still better mono pyro.
Vape: arle uses mainly yelan, candace and xingqiu while mavuika kinda only uses furina. A trend u will start to notice with mavuika is that all her good teammates outisde of bennett r 5 stars while arle can use three 4 stars very well. In a rotation both arle and mavuika with their respective supports can hit 5 vapes (mavuika needs a bit of combo to achieve this) and it comes down to personal preference cuz the gap is not that big.
Melt: not even a question. Mavuika melt is the best team in the game and the craziest part is that at c0 u can one rotate most abyss bosses, given u need citlali and xilonen. Another pro abt mavuika melt is that u can have two top tier teams on both chambers: mavuika melt and neuvi/furina/baizhu/kazuha. Basically, always choose mavuika over arle if u have citlali and xilonen, otherwise it’s up for debate.
I want to test out Mavuika vs Arle in the mono pyro team but yeah overload probably will be better since Fischl wouldn't be as good as ororon.
Eh ive never cared about how expensive a team is and I imagine that Mavuika is going to just be outright better than Arle in vape teams due to how close they already were in testing.
I couldn't resist anymore. Was going for Arle but i manage to pull Mavuika on and got her. I only have 3 natlans which is Chasca, Citlali, and Kachina. Hope that is good without Xilonen
Yep she will be great with Citlali
Talents could only reach lvl 8 this week, that is about 15-20% dmg loss. Her dmg after the leveling them up to lvl 10 must be insane.
Yeah im excited to get them leveled
Asking this question should be illegal for her.
@@totoimpactnot when the answer is no
Dude u know what's scary about mavuika? The fact there is still more character from natlan to release maybe (I guessing) the change other natlan chara could be support who suppress other but for now all we can do is wait for that to happen
They would have to release a support that powercreeps bennett, and thats scary
They'll release Iansan, who is electro. Varesa who is also electro and Ifa (who is don't know what element but didn't look Pyro). Then, we will go to that region with the project Stuza gang and I doubt we will get more Nathan Characters for a while.
At any rate, Bennett being power crept is an unlikely scenario. They made his kit too good.
At least, we can ditch Xiangling with Mavuika...
I personally disliked fighting with the silly motorcycle flips too much to pull for her 😅
Makes sense
I skipped Mavukas Sig for Citlali and have now my full Natlan Team with Xilonen and Mualani.
I never used Benny again after 1.2 Dragonspine Event.
Waifu Teams ftw.
@@luripu nice, show Benny boi some love though
Pro move from my side getting nahida for alhientem over xillonen
Now c0-r1 mavuika is benshed till i get proper support /artifacts
@@imadesoup kachina works with her
@TheGenshinIdiot i can burst once every rotation but the rotation is mehh
I predicted this months ago, Arlecchino would be still good but not as good as the peak of the pyro nation.
I mean it wasnt hard to predict
I was gonna pull for arle but I didn't have any weapon for her and I didn't want to put on her that 3 star weapon bc of the low base atk and I don't want to use Bennett so I pulled mav
@@AlhaithamsWifu69 hope you enjoy her
@@TheGenshinIdiot ty, she's really fun
Her strenght was never the issue, her design is the problem.
Ive had people tell me shes trash without melt team
@@TheGenshinIdiot I've seen mono pyro teams do ridiculous damage.
Mavuika user here c1 Mavuika with r1 Wolfs gravestone mostly defense percent on all my artifacts Sadly cause I got that itto curse, BUT even when I barely have 3k attack my ult is hitting for 138k to almost 200k No melt or vape In fact with zhonli neuvilette and bennett on team my Benne is only level 4 has no artifacts and No talent upgrades he is literally there as a mascot, Neuv is there for when I run into pyro slimes and don't feel like using mavuika's 19876 normal charged attack dmg and yes that's physical damage without a phys goblet. Oh did I mention I Ult constantly in fact I never don't have her ult so all the nay sayers are on something strong.
well you have C1 which fixes her needing natlan issue
I would use neuvi's skill right before her burst to get one big vape burst hit.
@@TheGenshinIdiot I just got her c1 yesterday, I've had no issues keeping fighting spirit the whole time I've been playing her, The only issue I've had was her interrupt res being so good I didn't notice her shield dropped off during Dragon Defier his ult nuked her XD But pretty much everything Everyone said was a Problem is bull bunk, for instance she NEEDS natlan people me with no natlan compaions XD, She can't gain fighting spirit well without natlan companions My unga bunga brain ulting three to 5 times. That was even without ult.
Difference I notice Is I spend less time applying other elements or focusing putting another character into rotation, with me mavuika has 99% field time I hit her skill the moment it's ready.
@Swing-q7x I am one of the guys that only used the environment to make reactions, and now it's terminal cause I only have the brain capacity for shield MAVUIKA! then I pat myself on the back cause I'm dumb XD but I do want to use shenhe for melt she also boosts normal and charged attack damage, could be fun.
I have both C6R1 Mavuika and C6R1 Arle, it's not even close in terms of damage using their best teams. Mavuika has much higher frontload dmg than Arle.
@@Kodakuten1 yeah cons are definitely in mavuikas favor
Cant imagine someone regretting her tbh unless they had zero natland characters
Even Kachina is still very usable on her teams
I think in reactionless teams arle will still win but it will be so close it doesnt matter. And if they were both C0 mavuika might have the advantage since she has hyper armor something arle doesnt get until C1.
As for overload alot of people have C6 fischl. But mavuika will want C6 ororon which very few people have. I think with C6 ororon mavuika will pull ahead.
Idk, Im going to have to test mono pyro before I make my final call
I pulled for Mavuika but Im also getting Arlecchino next hopefully too 😭😭
@@iorikaze3896 good luck
Mavuika in navia comps very strong
@@CruLisP I have heard this
Just don't compare them and just use the character you like
End of story‼️
Yeah but people like having the strongest characters
Let's see once 6.0 drops 🤣
Its not even snez so get ready for a whole bunch of different region characters, not really tho
Whoever says she is great needs to remember that once we leave natlan there will be no more natlan characters anymore or at least won’t release for quite a while. She’s locked to xilonen and Citlali pretty much forever 😂
Just Xilonen so half her team is very replaceable. Who am I kidding Bennett isnt getting powercrept ever.
even c0r1 arle would do more damage in monopyro than c0r1 mavuika
But can she do cool donuts? Don’t think so
C0r1 mavuika with atk sands and max talents will prolly still outdps arle in mono pyro
cope more mavuika is better same investments
@@TheoRiesu =))) mavuika deals a little more damage than arlec with super expensive team, and arlec can play in any team comp
@@lordbeerus2546 at mono pyro she can't do as much damage as arlec, arlec raw damage is so huge.
The only thing I really have against Mavuika is that she requires the 3 best support characters, weakening the second team. And her gameplay is already starting to boring me, to be honest. But she's so great in openworld and for big numbers ^^
She doesn't need all 3, she only really needs xilonen and she'll still clear content comfortably (unless your builds aren't good of course)
@@Whoisyou123 sure, I know, but if you're concerned about what each character can do at his best, you only have one really OP team for Mavuika, the one that requires the best supports and weakens the second team. Let's wait and see what the upcoming characters have to offer!
@@yanncabello6268 realistically, unless the abyss becomes hell on earth you won't really need THAT much power but i understand what you're saying
@@Whoisyou123 I think you're right, there's no point in having the best team for each DPS, game content is simple enough, let's say that's how I have the most fun.
You still have Kazuha and Furina who are great for Neuvillette
I'm just sad that the strongest pyro dps is not someone I'd personally like to play 😞 on top of that i don't like her teammates.. I'm not hating on her character, actually she's pretty cool. it's just that everyone is so hyped and she's the strongest dps, but I don't enjoy her at all... but when someone is so meta defining you kinda wonder if you should just pull for them or no (I think I most likely won't in the end 😞)
She isnt meta defining though, all shes really doing is being a better dps on 99% of peoples account. We will see how her support abilities age.
Boss is refresh let's make talents 6.8.9
Hopefully I get 3 this time....
I don’t even need to see this to know the answer is a hard resounding of course not.
Shes very good
@ yeah and it bothers me the amount of hate she gets in the community too. Like she’s a pretty solid character to pull for but people are hell bent that she doesn’t provide phlogiston use to all characters so therefore she’s bad. That’s basically what it boils down to.
Got her c3r1 despite having c1r1 arle and hutao 😂 I can never have enough pyro dps
Thats a lot
Without a doubt she is the best DPS in the game and she is easy to use about time Neuvillette got powercrept
Idk if its Neuvillette powercreep yet
@@TheGenshinIdiot mavuikas damage per rotation is 126k at C0 investment. Neuvillette is 90k i really don't see how its not powercreep personally. these are not just calcs i pulled out my backside either genshin scientist, zajeff, jstern all have her around this level. she is actually easy to play and her Aoe is huge. can't see how it is even a discussion objectively from the data. if you want to argue C2 vs C2 i have no idea but C0 to C0 and R1 TO R1 (which is how i judge a unit personally) the calcs don't lie
Mualani powercrept Neuv, according to the calcs, but nobody playing her, lol.
@@UnbelievableLins because the vast majority of players have skill issues. i play her and she is better than him for sure. mavuika is also way easier to play and lets not exagerate mualanis DPR is 95k and neuv's is 90k she barely powercrept him. not enough to say she was the best, mavuika is 126k the difference is absurd better than his R1 and C1 i believe
She’s the most hated archon since Zhongli
Yeah
Guys, archon won't get powercreep in their own field. Zhongli will be the best shielder, raiden will be the best battery, nahida will be the best dendro applier, mavuika will be the best dps.
Venti umm.. uhh idk
Venti is still the best crowd control but there is just no crowd to control
Sorry to broke your world, buddy, but certain 4* at C2 already powercrept Zhong. Every Archon b4 Sumeru no longer at the top.
@UnbelievableLins are you taking about lanyan at c2 where 40% of shield strength recovers when a party member deals damage? I don't know any character other than her who can theoretically powercreep zhongli in shield strength?
Bro I don't know why but for some reason my mavuika is doing "255163" melt with EM piece and doing "736961" melt with atk% piece both sands I am confused Pearl id I improved on what you said by somewhat what I had and was left confused
@@CODAnkurYT1506 you’re not melting on the em sands one then
@TheGenshinIdiot Bro after you said so I tried melting with 303 EM time piece mavuika almost 4-5 times and result was almost similar I recorded and saw it melt only 180k around each time and charged 66077 but with atk% time piece she deals nuke of 737943 and can't see charged bcz enemies never survived after that on overworld boss of natlan that purple flower(Lv.93) I checked both doing melt in rec properly
@@CODAnkurYT1506Try it on the cappybara, hes more consistent. You could be seeing Citlali melting on her hits.
@TheGenshinIdiot I will try it more times on that lets see I will let you know what happened
I’m soooooo glad arli was on second phase!!!!
Not sure I follow
@@TheGenshinIdiot well if it was the other way around, I would have pulled arli and not mav!
Question - the circle charge attacks of mauvika is skill damage or normal charge attacks?
Skill
@@Whoisyou123 its skill but counted as charge atk ... u dont have to level up her auto to increase its dmg instead upgrade her skill
@@Xotwod-t8k oh i misunderstood the question lol, you're right
So if I upgrade my skill my circle charge attack damage will increase ?
@Truck_Kun69 yes
can you do a f2p mavuika team damage comparison?
maybe 400-600k for her burst
Yeah with Mavuika/Rosaria/Benette/Kachina.
It does around 400-500k for me.
@ so even better for me because i use xilonen
@@z4rk72_ I do that in my 2.7 million damage video
i find the limitations argument funny to me, cause people act like mavuika is itto/ayaka/cyno/xiao that need 3 dedicated suppports, you really just need xilo and benny and can do whatever tf you want after that
and its not like every other dps besides clo/mualani and maybe arle/neuvi needs one specific support to work right?
tao? need xq/yelan or youre cooked
haitham? its either hb or hb, and you need kuki/raidEM for that
hell even arl and neuvi kinda loose a limb without furina/benny respectively
samee for every other atk scaler and benny
and i wont even talk about cyno/eula/itto/ayaka/xiao cause they are this problem elevated to a tier of its own
but i dont see pople complaining as much about it like i see with mavuika
and its not like she is asking for some niche sup like shenhe or xianyun, she is asking for one if not the best support in the game that as you said, people would get down the line anyways
good seeing a good take in a ocean of stupidity
Idk about arle and Neuvillette. They can run without Bennett/Furina easily, however you never do because those are the best characters in all their teams. Its exactly like Xilonen and how she would be on every single Mavuika team regardless of her team but because its forced people hate it.
@@TheGenshinIdiot i mean, going by this argument you can kinda go kachina or ororon in most mavuika teams,
@@nicodemostrabalho6991 Yeah you can but its a way harder fall off since her Fighting spirit matters so much to her damage, not maxing it out is really painful
@@TheGenshinIdiot fair, i pity the poor souls that skiped xilo trying to save for mavuika
@@nicodemostrabalho6991 shes still good with just Kachina just not in talks for #1, but if you like the character certainly enough power to get by until Xilonen rerun.
Where is your "Do I regret Citlali?" video brooooooooooooooooooooo
Its already out
I never learn and waste primos on weapon banners
@@GeorgeLiavas just make sure you have guaranteed
Who is better arlechino or mavuika without citlali
Seemingly still Mavuika
I dont have arlecchino so now i get c2 mavuika i just forgot who is that women. 😂
wow
she is the best dps in the game ... because she cant be interrupted while doing charge atk, she has lot of f2p weapon options ... only flaw with this char is she needs natlan niche but its not big deal
She doesn’t even need Natlan characters…
@@FranciscoCruz-dx4ctfor her damage to be considered top of the rest she sure does
@@Black_widower99 but thats for every dps arle needs kaz and yelan neuv needs furina mav needs xilonen
@@Black_widower99 any character needs certain teammates for their damage to be considered top of the rest. And even then, Mavuika can just play with Bennett, Kachina and Furina and will still have 80k dps teams
@@FranciscoCruz-dx4ct i got C1 Mavuika with no other natlan characters and it works
Do you use Instructor or Petra on Xilonen?
@simonschorer5948 cinder, instructor on Citlali
@TheGenshinIdiot Doesn't Citlali get energy problems from second rotation onwards this way?
@simonschorer5948 put her sands as the off piece
@@TheGenshinIdiot thanks, who cares about a 'good' shield anyway when it's still like paper
we get it vro
Arl is better because she has cool sharingan eyes >:)
So does Mavuika
lvl10 talent mono pyro comparison soon?
As soon as I am able to
people r forgetting that aoe is also a thing
Yeah even I havent considered that much
Yeah mavs pretty crazy, and way too easy to play lol. Not complaining though, big fan of her
Love the unga bunga
i just want people to forget arlecchino so i would enjoy her
Arlecchino or Mavuika?
@ arlecchino because i enjoy playing characters not many people use
this is the most fun i’ve had with a new char. it would’ve been awesome if she was more of a sub dps but boy a main dps archon is a lot of fun
Yeah if she was a better sub dps then it would've been a wrap for arlecchino
No, you don't
Yep
@TheGenshinIdiot 🤣
Super fan to play
@@maxpowers5452 yeah
With this I actually dislike her even more than before lmao
Why
@TheGenshinIdiot I just don't like the straight up power creep (and I dislike her playstyle so I don't want to pull for her) which makes me worry more about the future of genshin tbh. With simple but disproportionately powerful characters like her and neuvillete, my favourite characters like lyney feel much worse just because the content is getting harder and they can't really compete (yes you can clear but slower than the brain-dead characters which really doesn't feel right). Sorry about the rant I just don't like how the meta is developing that's all
I dont ahave any natlan 5 star supports
Should i pull mavika or wait for rerun
Honestly I’d say pull now if you like her ! We all have a free kachina and pyro traveller so you’ll have something to run with her now and then pull for any natlan supports ( if you want them ) later
no, dont even get her in a rerun. She's just another pyro dps
@@rifatrahaman6477 you can pull now and get Xilonen on her rerun which basically would give you a massive damage boost
@@Efgand0894 probably going to be the ceiling for pyro dps’ for a while tho , it’s going to take them a while to out dps the pyro archon in pyro unless they ever release a pyro sovereign or we get some kind of celestia pyro dps unit which probably won’t be for at least two years
It just like raiden everyone harsh on her on the first release and yet she one of the best battery, supp or sec dps or even main dps
Same thing with furina she to depend on healer bla bla
Just look at it she become one of the best support
I thing poeple just like drifing on wave bandwagon without really looking at the potential character have
Yeah I feel like people are going to stop talking about the natlan restriction sooner or later because once you just have Xilonen its not even a restriction
She’s strong indeed. No one ever doubt it. The issue is her accessibility which with all Natlan character she needs to optimally work it’s a lot of investment. She’s a luxury pull.
Arlecchino is a great investment also because she’s not locked behind other characters specifically. Arle teams will get richer and richer while Mavuika’s locked with exclusively these units for the future. In 2 ys we’ll be in Snezhnya with new gimmicks (which I hope will be more accessible and forgiving then natlan’s), no new teams for mavuika, no enrichment.
In terms of better investment as you said, mavuika is still better overall. Xilonen is not a niche character, shes the pinnacle of buffer in most teams now anyway so i dont see a downside of some sort if you really were to compare better investment... Saying a character locking behind other character specifically as you claim is a stretch if you think about it. Chances are, you will get a good support for your main DPS if you play the game. People would go as far as full premium team for neuvi/arle with supports all being c2r1, whilst all you need is 1 Xilonen for Mavuika to start to burst spam, let alone the buffs xilonen could also offer.
@ Other archons are the best in versatility. I just don’t like they gatekeeped her in this way. It’s a preference. Mavuika doesn’t add anything, she needs a premium team, as all dps want. But there are dps that are more accessible and versatile.
@ just think about Hu Tao, she’s still used changing supports! She’s a good example of a future proof character. That’s all I’m saying. Mavuika won’t have the same degree of enrichment with time
@@antonioa6089 But then Mavuika still does more damage tho
@@awaidz look I like Mavuika. And your points I find valid. But I just am sad of this flaw. I got Xilonen… so theoretically I could pull her. I just don’t like how they treated her gatekeeping her true potential, more so if we think she’s an Archon! I mean if they did this with a random unit I would have find it ok, but she’s an archon
I don't know if Arlechinno does more damage than Mavuika in overload and mono pyro, but I find Mavuika in mono pyro and overload crazy strong.
I know melt is better, but I find Mavuika good in every teams as a dps when I have a Natlan characters on the team.
Yeah looking at her in Mono pyro I think she has a chance at beating Arlechino
Mavuika is not better than Arlechino. I have them both at C0R1. Mavuika is great for her Utility, she can be on field, off field, finally we have a character that can bench Xiangling. Arlechino however is just a better overall hyper carry, she's just not as flexible as Mavuika is.
Mavuika does more max dmg, is easier to use, has more f2p weapons and also easier to build cos of codex, can be healed and has 100% IR, the only thing arle has over her is flexibility
And mavuika can also effectively be used in dual carry teams like navia teams and clorinde overload, and as a good off fielder for kinich, mualani, ayato, rizzley, itto etc and even has a single target international team w childe
Mavuika is just better sorry bro 😹😹
@@Reaper-ml6ly but she is, all you need is Xilonen and it’s perfectly fine on whatever team you run her in
"what if I take away Arlecchinos weapon and level up Mavuika's talents" Mavuika is an archon and a Natlan character, how is that fair 💀
Because he is using serpents spine which is 20% worse than mavuikas sig and why is it fair to compare a character with leveled talents to a character with unleveled talents ☠️
@@Hazedlol55 because arlecchino is c1 r1 with a crowned talent and mavuika is c0 r1 with level 6&8 talents
@@ISMythix because mavuika is an archon
@@Hazedlol55 who gives a damn bro they're comparing who is better
@ISMythix Arlecchino is better💀
Your a tryhard whale gooner 💀 of corse you won’t regret her but most people don’t have any natlan character and with our them she’s useless
Why exactly am I a gooner? Everyone has Kachina.
Most people have Natlan characters, only total clowns skipped everything, sorry to tell you.
Problem with watching videos like this is people tend to focus on mavuika high burst DMG with a specific equip team where arlechinno can release insane DMG regardless who's in her team plus arlechinno is self sustained. The bandwagon is high whenever a new character get release to get praise from hoyo
@@ice-zero4389 well no this video comes after I put her against melt vape and mono pyro arlecchino
@@ice-zero4389 mavuika can be healed and has 100% IR so what if arle can heal herself with her burst every 3rd rotation ☠️
@@TheGenshinIdiot I have watched your videos and other videos alike and u still need the right set up for mauvika to make those high nukes while arlechinno is raw damage that's why she can work extremely well in mono pyro and any team that needs a strong dps. There's no way we can argue her consistent high damage regardless of the team. Respectfully Let's stop with the power creep and downplay opinions
@@ISMythix while mavuika still have to wait to be healed by her companions. I don't get your point lol 😁
@@ice-zero4389 and arle can only get healed by her burst and if she doesn't play a shielder she is also at risk of getting knocked down
Meanwhile mavuika is CONSTANTLY getting healed by benny+xilo and can't be knocked down ☠️
Absolute coomer post
Its a standard video I make for all characters
@ mate you know me by now. Just pulling your leg lol
🫵😂
No u
@@TheGenshinIdiot😂😮
Why would you ever play mono pyro arlecino? it doesnt make sense. Its so much worse than vape and now melt. Mauvika dmg is impressive not gonna lie, she will probably outdps my c1 arlecino when i max mauvika out, but arlecino is much more flexible and more f2p friendly and i have xilonen and citlali. They need to finally make bennet alternative so i could play both of them in spirall abyss.
Arle mono pyro is a very good team somethin like arle kazu/zhongli xilo benny can be real nice
It was like 200k off a full vape rotations damage.
Yo
@@ArunPrashath_xrip yo
Mavuika just combined Arle and Neuvi for evaporation😂😂😂 🧂 🧂 🧂
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