Separating out the specific parts and tools for each of the seven step assembly process steps was brilliant on the part of the manufacturer. For the price, I am impressed at how sturdy this th-cam.com/users/postUgkxvObaTzoHoHQLL4lHbJQmExHqsrZQm-f7 unit is and it does go together easily. Well, I was puzzled at first at Step 5 and maybe the instructions should mention that rail #62 needs to be tilted upwards a little to get the rail to fit into the main part #44. I like it that the rower can be stored vertically in a really small amount of space, but be forewarned that this rower is top heavy and for safety you'll need at least two bungee cords to keep the unit upright, attaching them to something; in my case to a third garage door. I have had this unit only a short time, and I will post an update once I've had it for a year. As for working your legs, I have to admit that I'm mainly rowing for upper body strength and I use other forms of exercise for leg strength (like walking fast, biking, or using a trampoline. But if you pull as far forward as possible, then you can give preference to your legs for the first 4 feet or so of travel. I also admit to not taking the two electronic connectors apart at Step 7. I simply inserted the two batteries while the other parts remained connected. By the way, there is plenty of resistance here, even in the lowest resistance settings. Kudos to Sunny Health & Fitness !
@@captmrgn7040 I did! But I already returned it actually. The machine was great quality but I didn’t like the magnetic pulling system (very hard and unnatural the first pull, even though it is quiet) and overall just didn’t enjoy the workouts much.
great job- I'm glad to see that the row may be one of the best out there. Your reviews are well worth watching and unbiased - i like the " the price is worth it only to the most hard core Peloton group" While I've drunk the kool-aid I'm gonna wait for the price to drop some-@$2500 thanks!
Such a good review. Very informative and really well put together. I can only imagine the amount of work you and probably the team put into it. It was worth it. Great job!
I wanted to buy the rower, but expected it to be closer to $2495 on the HIGH end. Not $3195. It looks good, but it’s not something I’ll be adding until they do a $700+ price drop. 🤷🏻
If you already have a peloton subscription, the subscription savings makes it quickly price comparable to the hydrow. Even the cheaper one. Since peloton is currently in a cash crunch, i think they are initially targeting current customers who are considering adding a hydrow subscription. Hopefully if they can get their business in order they will lower prices for the non early adopters.
I’m in the diehard peloton camp. I preordered day one. I agree the price is restrictive to most. However, the cost to me is digestible when subscription costs come into play. Since I own the tread and bike+, I don’t need to pay for another sub for the Row. Buying a hydrow meant another sub, which after 4 years is ~$1800. Overtime, the subscription is way more expensive than the equipment. That said, if I didn’t have Peloton equipment, the cheaper alternatives are worthy solutions. Love the overview. Looking forward to the comparisons.
We are the same. I would consider other rowers (like Ergatta for example) but owning a Bike+ and already paying for a subscription that would just work out of the box with the Peloton Row is a huge selling point. Can't be dismissed. Plus, having more variety in cardio options while still being on the same platform improves my chances of hitting those 10+ day streaks that are gamified into Peloton.
I’m waiting for my peloton tread about 1 week away. I started my journey Jan 1 st at orange theory. Can to enjoy the tread. 42 male went from 293lb to currently 230lb. How do you like the tread ? 😊
Thanks for the review. I purchased the Hydrrow wave and love it. The reviews you did on the Hydrow wave and the price of the peloton made my decision. My wife loves the size and has started rowing for the first time. I enjoy the outside hydrow classes and the instructors are outstanding. I use the peloton for Bike and outside workouts.
I guess to begin assessing whether or not it would even be worth considering at that price (which is crazy high but not unusual for peloton). It would have to offer things that I need or miss in my current experience and it simply doesn't, at all. Congrats though to everyone who will have an amazing experience with this piece of equipment!
Hey thanks for the advice on ordering from the showroom! We have one about 20 minutes from us! We will probably order ours sometime next year after our baby is born! Hopefully the price will have come down by then!
Thanks for sharing your experience. Looks cool. Price is obscene. Very happy with my Echelon Row. Was looking forward to the content, but looks like I’ll have to keep waiting.
The price is ridiculous. I was hoping to buy this and sell my Hydrow to save on membership fees but the content is not up to par with Hydrow. I love that my rowing workouts are completely different from my bike+ workouts. I’m not a big fan of studio workouts and since I’ve experienced Hydrow’s on the water content I can’t go backwards. I’ll pay the extra fee, if Peloton ever steps it up and puts them in the water I’d reconsider.
Charlotte South Park has one to try out. It is smooth and quiet and after about 3 minutes I could see this is the next great machine. Sticker shock yes, regrettably too much for my pocket book. I am thinking about using this as motivation to get to my proper weight/bmi/circumference ratio. Good job Peloton.
To Clarify I use the Peloton App on a connected bowflex bike and Treadmill, I also use Zwift and Ifit apps. I like the flexibility. I've been doing Peloton for over 4 years. So having options was great for me. I find the Hydro wave very quiet. The workouts are easy to jump into. I like that Hydrow concentrates on rowing and fitness. It's all about rowing and they seem to have been the innovators of connected rowing. Connect the Watts TH-cam reviews are great, and I enjoy watching things I have no intention of buying. You make them interesting.
Here’s my take: First, the price for this high-end ‘smart’ rower is ridiculous- and I’m sure many others would agree with that. And the high initial cost for the rower, combined with the annual subscription costs, amounts to even more money out of your pocket. And what if the cost for the rower subscription goes up every year, and you decide to cancel it… and all you have then is a $3,000+ ‘just-row’ rowing machine? What kind of deal is it then- would you still feel good about your purchase? Now if cost is no object, then go for it… I must admit, this is a beautiful rower to look at, and I love the touch screen as well. But the cost for all of this is just too high for many folks… there are other more cost-effective rowing options out there. P.S. As far as Concept 2 rowers sounding like a ‘chainsaw’- I have a Concept 2 rower that my wife and I use twice a week (for the last 3 yrs), and it has over 900km on it. Though it isn’t as quiet at the Peloton, the sound from it (even during my vigorous rows) is totally reasonable and it sounds nothing like a chainsaw.
I'm glad you did this video as there are way more nice features about this than I expected there to be. But I still have a problem with only having scenic and in studio instructor lead classes. I have an Avron and it's great because my husband and I have very different preferences in workouts. I like the gamification and he likes watching Netflix. Both of those things can't be done on the peloton.
I just cancelled mine. The first one they brought over broke during installation. The front stabilizer bar cracked in 2 places. It looks like they used tin foil on the inside. The replacement was supposed to show up Monday but they cancelled delivery day of, and tried to get me to reschedule in 3 more weeks. That was the straw that broke the camel’s back. CANCELLED!
Unfortunately there is no peloton showrooms within 300-400 miles from my home to try one out. I'm going to invest in it whether or not I get a chance to try one. I honestly do not want to pay for several subscriptions.
Thanks for this in-depth review, Colin! I have two questions: 1) It looks as if the Row has a different (lighter) color than the Bike or the Tread. Is that true? 2) Do you have any information on international availability (especially interested in Germany)? Thanks and keep up the great work!
Yup it’s a slightly lighter color and no word on international release. It looks to me like they do not have a lot of confidence in the sales and so only released in the US, with no financing and a 2 month lead time so that they can know exactly how many to make. I would guess that, depending on how it does it will come international at some point… but it might be a while
Thanks! For one simple reason, almost no one (outside of Peloton diehards) will buy it at this price. Especially given that very nice alternatives exist at less than 1/3rd the price. $2,500 is the price I would look for which is still very expensive for a rower, and given that Peloton has changed their pricing within the past 12 months, I would not be surprised to the see the price drop in early 2023.
@@ConnectTheWatts maybe that's the idea. Peloton can't mess around with ordering too much and having much capital in unused machines. Keep the orders small until either $pton crashes or they survive this thin financial period. I think the row makes sense in the 5 year portfolio but doesn't make sense within the 24 month portfolio. I bet they have 20k on order and know they can soak the eager early adopters until the second or third order
Thanks for this. If one doesn’t have a peloton (subscription) already and is interested in a rower with screen and other classes, which would you recommend that is more economical?
The handle is probably an afterthought. Another channel uncovered what looks like patents for a rower smart handle with controls and made the case that it was probably the plan to ship with a smart handle and peloton had to fall back to a dumb handle.
Truly a shame that the slide can't fold down like Concept 2. Aside from the price, this thing has a big footprint so you will have to stand it up to store it. Need a wall to put it on, and be mindful of low-hanging lamps when lifting it up. Finally, the power cord will get in the way too. I couldn't;t tell how quiet it was due to the background noise and the sounds coming from the monitor. Pretty much the same as with the water rower so I don't think a quieter operation is really that big a deal. Also, did you put a water bottle into that bottle holder > It looks like a bottle in this spot would be in the way of the handle. Good review, I sincerely hope Peloton will one day get in the black.
Thanks, ya no way to easily break it down like the Concept 2... especially since there are sensors that run through it to the seat to determine positioning. Power cord didn't seem be the way at all upon raising it up, and as quiet as the Water Rower is, this is much more quiet (I really can't emphasis enough how silent it is). I did test the water bottle holder with a pretty decent sized bottle and it worked very well, since it goes pretty deep. Well out of the way of the handle.
While the form correction is kind of cool, is it worth that much extra? I just went on my towns Facebook group and asked if anyone was a former collegiate rower and set up a private lesson with them. I'd rather spend 60 bux for an in person form coaching session than spend $1500 extra on a super expensive rower.
When can we expect the video comparing this to other rowers? I'm really torn b/c I have a Peloton bike and full membership and love their content. Like many others though, I was expecting a price range in the $2,100-$2,500 range but ~$3,200 was shocking. I'd be interested to see how this compares to the Hydro Wave at less than 1/2 the list price.
@@ConnectTheWatts Thanks. The reason I was asking was because the prices for all the Hydrows are looking like they're going to increase on October 3 so was looking to make a decision by they but I guess I can wait because you've done a great job here. Would love to see how it compares to to the Hydrow Wave as well as this new to-be-announced rower.
It’s got the same screen as the peloton bike+ and tread and I don’t think those can use Ethernet so I don’t think you can use it here (tho I am not 100% sure)
So guess if you're calibrating it, each family member needs to calibrate it, does it save those settings? This would be really annoying to have to calibrate it before every single time of using it, my entire family rows
Peloton needs to prove to me their long term financial solvency before I'll spend that much for anything. Bleeding a billion dollars a quarter and having less than 3 billion market cap is not ideal.
It looks great, but if I had that amount of money to spend on fitness equipment I could buy a Concept2 rower, a ski erg, an assault bike, some kettlebells and weights.
I'm impressed with the Peloton Row - but it's way too much money. C2 makes the best rowers and you can get accessories to make the seat more comfortable for longer rowing sessions. Company is in trouble - and they release a luxury item NOW? They took way too long on this.
I saw that the Row website FAQ says it supports Apple Watch but it does not clarify if it supports GymKit NFC pairing like the Bike+. Do you know if the Row supports Apple Watch GymKit integration?
Would this appeal to any row specific athletes? Could this be a nice to have for any endurance rowing athletes to have at home, use in off season etc. Tx
Maybe. Athletes usually care less about a machine being quiet and more about the ability to set up their own intervals, and be able to see that data from those interval splits which you cannot do here. The concept 2 is more of a standard rower for athletes.
I have an Ergatta and am tempted by the Peloton Row simply because I’ve had a Peloton bike since 2015, they have good content, and the Ergatta has been slow on the innovation side with their games: seriously, how long are we only going to have two games? Plus it would be nice to get rid of the extra subscription. But $3,200 is simply insane.
I’m a very big fan of Ergatta, especially with their Push Programs, but am too a little bummed to see such little innovation this year. Hopefully they have more updates in the works
I had the Ergatta for 1 year, I liked it, but it did get a bit boring, so I did sell it a few months ago. It also started to develop some squeaks and groans when working out with it. Otherwise, it was a nice rower, but I think this is a much better rower, and of course it should be for the cost difference. I believe that the higher quality of the Peloton rower and the instructors and classes on it will prove to be the main selling points, especially if you already have other Peloton equipment. I don't care for the content on the Hydrow but I like the look of their rower. I think I am willing to at least give the Peloton rower a try for 30 days and then make a decision on if the cost is worth it to me. Do I think the cost is too high, yes, I think it would be a no brainer if priced at $2495, but still, it seems to be the best smart rower on the market (in my opinion) for what it provides. If you don't want or need a smart rower, then the Concept 2 is definitely the way to go.
@@larrygucciardo3801 agree it’s getting boring. Was it difficult to sell? I do like the whooshing water sound, though. I just renewed my annual Ergatta membership, which was only $261. However that’s $261 per year saved if I spring for the Peloton rower instead.
I thought that you would’ve gone to PSNY for the review and meet Adrian. Check out this row review where the reviewer didn’t even know who she was talking to: th-cam.com/video/vuItTmif_BE/w-d-xo.html
It is such a mixed message you just gave. You said you won't recommend the peloton row at just over 3000$. Then you said you want us to order out of the showroom to get them the commission. Do you know why the row costs over 3000$ in the first place? With the stock price (8$) teetering near bankruptcy I would not recommend them sending commissions to brick stores like this is 1965, it is either that or no more peloton after the inevitable chapter 11.
I love my bike and find that I am constantly defending Peloton. I love the classes. But I don’t see the value in the rower. I was ready to order one when I heard about it. But I will never buy one for $3200. On top of peloton not releasing the classes on anything but the rower. I fear that this rower will be nail in the coffin of the company.
I will probably catch a lot of flack for this, but this machine PALES in comparison with the one they are trying to get market share from. There is no argument here, as this is all money driven and laughable to compare.
Separating out the specific parts and tools for each of the seven step assembly process steps was brilliant on the part of the manufacturer. For the price, I am impressed at how sturdy this th-cam.com/users/postUgkxvObaTzoHoHQLL4lHbJQmExHqsrZQm-f7 unit is and it does go together easily. Well, I was puzzled at first at Step 5 and maybe the instructions should mention that rail #62 needs to be tilted upwards a little to get the rail to fit into the main part #44. I like it that the rower can be stored vertically in a really small amount of space, but be forewarned that this rower is top heavy and for safety you'll need at least two bungee cords to keep the unit upright, attaching them to something; in my case to a third garage door. I have had this unit only a short time, and I will post an update once I've had it for a year. As for working your legs, I have to admit that I'm mainly rowing for upper body strength and I use other forms of exercise for leg strength (like walking fast, biking, or using a trampoline. But if you pull as far forward as possible, then you can give preference to your legs for the first 4 feet or so of travel. I also admit to not taking the two electronic connectors apart at Step 7. I simply inserted the two batteries while the other parts remained connected. By the way, there is plenty of resistance here, even in the lowest resistance settings. Kudos to Sunny Health & Fitness !
Preordered within minutes of it launching! So excited to get this thing!
Did you get it? Mine broke during delivery. Build quality looks very concerning.
@@captmrgn7040 I did! But I already returned it actually. The machine was great quality but I didn’t like the magnetic pulling system (very hard and unnatural the first pull, even though it is quiet) and overall just didn’t enjoy the workouts much.
great job- I'm glad to see that the row may be one of the best out there. Your reviews are well worth watching and unbiased - i like the " the price is worth it only to the most hard core Peloton group" While I've drunk the kool-aid I'm gonna wait for the price to drop some-@$2500
thanks!
Such a good review. Very informative and really well put together. I can only imagine the amount of work you and probably the team put into it. It was worth it. Great job!
I wanted to buy the rower, but expected it to be closer to $2495 on the HIGH end. Not $3195. It looks good, but it’s not something I’ll be adding until they do a $700+ price drop. 🤷🏻
I was shocked as well by the price. Waiting is probably a smart move.
If you already have a peloton subscription, the subscription savings makes it quickly price comparable to the hydrow. Even the cheaper one.
Since peloton is currently in a cash crunch, i think they are initially targeting current customers who are considering adding a hydrow subscription. Hopefully if they can get their business in order they will lower prices for the non early adopters.
Me too, I ordered it today anyway, so you should be seeing that price drop in the next week😂
Although not in the market for a rower, loved the analysis. A big fan of Ash and hope she does other modalities at Peloton
Just bought the Row, can’t wait for it to ship!
Love this! Thank you so much! I preordered on Day 1 and I am even more excited now.
I’m in the diehard peloton camp. I preordered day one. I agree the price is restrictive to most. However, the cost to me is digestible when subscription costs come into play. Since I own the tread and bike+, I don’t need to pay for another sub for the Row. Buying a hydrow meant another sub, which after 4 years is ~$1800. Overtime, the subscription is way more expensive than the equipment.
That said, if I didn’t have Peloton equipment, the cheaper alternatives are worthy solutions.
Love the overview. Looking forward to the comparisons.
We are the same. I would consider other rowers (like Ergatta for example) but owning a Bike+ and already paying for a subscription that would just work out of the box with the Peloton Row is a huge selling point. Can't be dismissed. Plus, having more variety in cardio options while still being on the same platform improves my chances of hitting those 10+ day streaks that are gamified into Peloton.
I’m waiting for my peloton tread about 1 week away. I started my journey Jan 1 st at orange theory. Can to enjoy the tread. 42 male went from 293lb to currently 230lb. How do you like the tread ? 😊
Nice to see some competition in the premium rowing market and finally also with a virtual coach!
I tried it out and honestly my $350 rower felt too similar to justify such a massive price tag and I’m able to easily change the resistance.
Great review, I appreciate the honesty of opinion regarding the price.
Colin...You're the man. The lack of embarrassment for the content is respectable.
Thanks for the review. I purchased the Hydrrow wave and love it. The reviews you did on the Hydrow wave and the price of the peloton made my decision. My wife loves the size and has started rowing for the first time. I enjoy the outside hydrow classes and the instructors are outstanding. I use the peloton for Bike and outside workouts.
I guess to begin assessing whether or not it would even be worth considering at that price (which is crazy high but not unusual for peloton). It would have to offer things that I need or miss in my current experience and it simply doesn't, at all. Congrats though to everyone who will have an amazing experience with this piece of equipment!
Hey thanks for the advice on ordering from the showroom! We have one about 20 minutes from us! We will probably order ours sometime next year after our baby is born! Hopefully the price will have come down by then!
Thanks for sharing your experience. Looks cool. Price is obscene. Very happy with my Echelon Row. Was looking forward to the content, but looks like I’ll have to keep waiting.
I have a feeling the content will be available early 2023 while they figure out the new digital app pricing structure.
The price is ridiculous. I was hoping to buy this and sell my Hydrow to save on membership fees but the content is not up to par with Hydrow. I love that my rowing workouts are completely different from my bike+ workouts. I’m not a big fan of studio workouts and since I’ve experienced Hydrow’s on the water content I can’t go backwards. I’ll pay the extra fee, if Peloton ever steps it up and puts them in the water I’d reconsider.
Charlotte South Park has one to try out. It is smooth and quiet and after about 3 minutes I could see this is the next great machine. Sticker shock yes, regrettably too much for my pocket book. I am thinking about using this as motivation to get to my proper weight/bmi/circumference ratio. Good job Peloton.
To Clarify I use the Peloton App on a connected bowflex bike and Treadmill, I also use Zwift and Ifit apps. I like the flexibility. I've been doing Peloton for over 4 years. So having options was great for me. I find the Hydro wave very quiet. The workouts are easy to jump into. I like that Hydrow concentrates on rowing and fitness. It's all about rowing and they seem to have been the innovators of connected rowing. Connect the Watts TH-cam reviews are great, and I enjoy watching things I have no intention of buying. You make them interesting.
Really nice review I appreciate the detail you gave this review helped me make a decision in purchasing the rower!
Here’s my take: First, the price for this high-end ‘smart’ rower is ridiculous- and I’m sure many others would agree with that. And the high initial cost for the rower, combined with the annual subscription costs, amounts to even more money out of your pocket. And what if the cost for the rower subscription goes up every year, and you decide to cancel it… and all you have then is a $3,000+ ‘just-row’ rowing machine? What kind of deal is it then- would you still feel good about your purchase? Now if cost is no object, then go for it… I must admit, this is a beautiful rower to look at, and I love the touch screen as well. But the cost for all of this is just too high for many folks… there are other more cost-effective rowing options out there.
P.S. As far as Concept 2 rowers sounding like a ‘chainsaw’- I have a Concept 2 rower that my wife and I use twice a week (for the last 3 yrs), and it has over 900km on it. Though it isn’t as quiet at the Peloton, the sound from it (even during my vigorous rows) is totally reasonable and it sounds nothing like a chainsaw.
Super solid review 👏
Thanks for the good review🎉
Impressive review Colin.
I suspect the white/background noise was masking the sound, but nonetheless impressive how quiet this is. Awesome review. thx.
Great review 👌🏽👌🏽👌🏽
Great video. Thank you!
If it is basically silent I will buy it - that is my main problem with the rowers I have tried - now if they would only have it in Canada.
I'm glad you did this video as there are way more nice features about this than I expected there to be. But I still have a problem with only having scenic and in studio instructor lead classes. I have an Avron and it's great because my husband and I have very different preferences in workouts. I like the gamification and he likes watching Netflix. Both of those things can't be done on the peloton.
Love the Aviron. Another very nice rower.
@@ConnectTheWatts what do you think a better purchase would be? The Avrion, or peloton?
I just cancelled mine. The first one they brought over broke during installation. The front stabilizer bar cracked in 2 places. It looks like they used tin foil on the inside. The replacement was supposed to show up Monday but they cancelled delivery day of, and tried to get me to reschedule in 3 more weeks. That was the straw that broke the camel’s back. CANCELLED!
Unfortunately there is no peloton showrooms within 300-400 miles from my home to try one out.
I'm going to invest in it whether or not I get a chance to try one.
I honestly do not want to pay for several subscriptions.
Thanks for this in-depth review, Colin! I have two questions: 1) It looks as if the Row has a different (lighter) color than the Bike or the Tread. Is that true? 2) Do you have any information on international availability (especially interested in Germany)? Thanks and keep up the great work!
Yup it’s a slightly lighter color and no word on international release. It looks to me like they do not have a lot of confidence in the sales and so only released in the US, with no financing and a 2 month lead time so that they can know exactly how many to make. I would guess that, depending on how it does it will come international at some point… but it might be a while
Thanks for the info!!
Awesome review! If it’s nearly the perfect machine why is it not worth the asking price? Better yet, at what price would it be worth it?
Thanks!
For one simple reason, almost no one (outside of Peloton diehards) will buy it at this price. Especially given that very nice alternatives exist at less than 1/3rd the price. $2,500 is the price I would look for which is still very expensive for a rower, and given that Peloton has changed their pricing within the past 12 months, I would not be surprised to the see the price drop in early 2023.
@@ConnectTheWatts maybe that's the idea. Peloton can't mess around with ordering too much and having much capital in unused machines. Keep the orders small until either $pton crashes or they survive this thin financial period. I think the row makes sense in the 5 year portfolio but doesn't make sense within the 24 month portfolio. I bet they have 20k on order and know they can soak the eager early adopters until the second or third order
@@brooks886 I am super eager :)
Thanks for this. If one doesn’t have a peloton (subscription) already and is interested in a rower with screen and other classes, which would you recommend that is more economical?
The lawyers told Peloton to make the tether. I'm sure of that.
The handle is probably an afterthought. Another channel uncovered what looks like patents for a rower smart handle with controls and made the case that it was probably the plan to ship with a smart handle and peloton had to fall back to a dumb handle.
That would make a lot of sense.
Truly a shame that the slide can't fold down like Concept 2. Aside from the price, this thing has a big footprint so you will have to stand it up to store it. Need a wall to put it on, and be mindful of low-hanging lamps when lifting it up. Finally, the power cord will get in the way too. I couldn't;t tell how quiet it was due to the background noise and the sounds coming from the monitor. Pretty much the same as with the water rower so I don't think a quieter operation is really that big a deal. Also, did you put a water bottle into that bottle holder > It looks like a bottle in this spot would be in the way of the handle. Good review, I sincerely hope Peloton will one day get in the black.
Thanks, ya no way to easily break it down like the Concept 2... especially since there are sensors that run through it to the seat to determine positioning. Power cord didn't seem be the way at all upon raising it up, and as quiet as the Water Rower is, this is much more quiet (I really can't emphasis enough how silent it is). I did test the water bottle holder with a pretty decent sized bottle and it worked very well, since it goes pretty deep. Well out of the way of the handle.
While the form correction is kind of cool, is it worth that much extra? I just went on my towns Facebook group and asked if anyone was a former collegiate rower and set up a private lesson with them. I'd rather spend 60 bux for an in person form coaching session than spend $1500 extra on a super expensive rower.
Excellent review! Did you get a sense of how the splits compare to a concept2 or water rower? Curious of any benchmarks and the time differences.
Feels pretty dead on with Hydrow/well taken care of concept 2s. I can go a tiny bit faster on water rowers.
When can we expect the video comparing this to other rowers? I'm really torn b/c I have a Peloton bike and full membership and love their content. Like many others though, I was expecting a price range in the $2,100-$2,500 range but ~$3,200 was shocking. I'd be interested to see how this compares to the Hydro Wave at less than 1/2 the list price.
I'm planning for Oct 12th so that I can cover all rowers (including one currently under embargo)
@@ConnectTheWatts Thanks. The reason I was asking was because the prices for all the Hydrows are looking like they're going to increase on October 3 so was looking to make a decision by they but I guess I can wait because you've done a great job here. Would love to see how it compares to to the Hydrow Wave as well as this new to-be-announced rower.
Ok thanks for letting me know about the Hydrow price increase. I’ll see if I can do a comparison for just those two rowers sooner.
will have video up today 👍
Does it have Ethernet or is it only wireless? Is the seat removable to clean wheels on seat and tracks of rower?
It’s got the same screen as the peloton bike+ and tread and I don’t think those can use Ethernet so I don’t think you can use it here (tho I am not 100% sure)
So guess if you're calibrating it, each family member needs to calibrate it, does it save those settings? This would be really annoying to have to calibrate it before every single time of using it, my entire family rows
yes you can have up 10 or 20 separate accounts each with their own calibration, workout history, etc..
Peloton needs to prove to me their long term financial solvency before I'll spend that much for anything. Bleeding a billion dollars a quarter and having less than 3 billion market cap is not ideal.
How tall is the screen at max height when in the normal position?
Still going with the hydrow.
It looks great, but if I had that amount of money to spend on fitness equipment I could buy a Concept2 rower, a ski erg, an assault bike, some kettlebells and weights.
great stuff! wondering how it compares to the ergatta rower??
I should have a pretty in-depth comparison coming between almost all rowers on Oct 12th
I'm impressed with the Peloton Row - but it's way too much money. C2 makes the best rowers and you can get accessories to make the seat more comfortable for longer rowing sessions. Company is in trouble - and they release a luxury item NOW? They took way too long on this.
I saw that the Row website FAQ says it supports Apple Watch but it does not clarify if it supports GymKit NFC pairing like the Bike+. Do you know if the Row supports Apple Watch GymKit integration?
No GymKit, it supports it similar to the way the Peloton Tread, via a workout by connecting it to the Peloton App
Would this appeal to any row specific athletes? Could this be a nice to have for any endurance rowing athletes to have at home, use in off season etc. Tx
Maybe. Athletes usually care less about a machine being quiet and more about the ability to set up their own intervals, and be able to see that data from those interval splits which you cannot do here. The concept 2 is more of a standard rower for athletes.
It’s like Chanel in the rowers! I love it but I am going to save $ to get lol
At 00:47 that thing holding the weights, is that a purchasable item at the store?
hmm not sure... I don't think so
Could you use a C2 with the peloton classes if you already have a Peloton bike?
no, unfortunately Peloton will be limiting the Rowing content to be available only on the Peloton Row itself
@@ConnectTheWatts not cool
@@Gotdam But did you honestly expect a different response…?
if you order one, who will assemble it? in NJ peloton got rid of the field ops/delivery team
Most likely XPO or whatever shipping company is available locally.
One question, is it going to be self assembly like the new bike they’re coming out with eventually or is it still white glove install with xpo?
It's going to be white glove install at first... but I would guess that will quickly change. This would be pretty easy to put together.
@@ConnectTheWatts Thanks!! I trust them more then me lol
Better than hydrow?
I have an Ergatta and am tempted by the Peloton Row simply because I’ve had a Peloton bike since 2015, they have good content, and the Ergatta has been slow on the innovation side with their games: seriously, how long are we only going to have two games? Plus it would be nice to get rid of the extra subscription. But $3,200 is simply insane.
I’m a very big fan of Ergatta, especially with their Push Programs, but am too a little bummed to see such little innovation this year. Hopefully they have more updates in the works
I had the Ergatta for 1 year, I liked it, but it did get a bit boring, so I did sell it a few months ago. It also started to develop some squeaks and groans when working out with it. Otherwise, it was a nice rower, but I think this is a much better rower, and of course it should be for the cost difference. I believe that the higher quality of the Peloton rower and the instructors and classes on it will prove to be the main selling points, especially if you already have other Peloton equipment. I don't care for the content on the Hydrow but I like the look of their rower. I think I am willing to at least give the Peloton rower a try for 30 days and then make a decision on if the cost is worth it to me. Do I think the cost is too high, yes, I think it would be a no brainer if priced at $2495, but still, it seems to be the best smart rower on the market (in my opinion) for what it provides. If you don't want or need a smart rower, then the Concept 2 is definitely the way to go.
@@larrygucciardo3801 agree it’s getting boring. Was it difficult to sell? I do like the whooshing water sound, though. I just renewed my annual Ergatta membership, which was only $261. However that’s $261 per year saved if I spring for the Peloton rower instead.
@@sherrymoore451 No, I put it on Facebook marketplace, and it sold in about a month for $1400
@@larrygucciardo3801 someone local who picked it up? Good sale price for a year-old rower, too.
Dude, you went to the studio?! Did you meet any of the instructors???
Yup just a peloton store.
I thought that you would’ve gone to PSNY for the review and meet Adrian. Check out this row review where the reviewer didn’t even know who she was talking to: th-cam.com/video/vuItTmif_BE/w-d-xo.html
It is such a mixed message you just gave. You said you won't recommend the peloton row at just over 3000$. Then you said you want us to order out of the showroom to get them the commission. Do you know why the row costs over 3000$ in the first place? With the stock price (8$) teetering near bankruptcy I would not recommend them sending commissions to brick stores like this is 1965, it is either that or no more peloton after the inevitable chapter 11.
I’d love to get one of these but sadly I don’t have enough space in my apartment for one…hopefully I can workout on one at one of the showrooms.
Did you pay for this or did you get a free sample?
Neither, I did my testing at a peloton store
Very impressive! Though I wish it had also streaming option, such as Netflix and friends
@@balcerzaq There are many ways to enjoy rowing. Mine is rowing 3 times a week, for an hour at 2:10 pace, watching Netflix.
I like to row while watching Netflix too… especially for aerobic or base-building days.
@@balcerzaq aviron displays metrics on the screen alongside streaming. I love it. 🤷♀️
I love my bike and find that I am constantly defending Peloton. I love the classes. But I don’t see the value in the rower. I was ready to order one when I heard about it. But I will never buy one for $3200. On top of peloton not releasing the classes on anything but the rower. I fear that this rower will be nail in the coffin of the company.
I will probably catch a lot of flack for this, but this machine PALES in comparison with the one they are trying to get market share from. There is no argument here, as this is all money driven and laughable to compare.
Price will leave this dead in the water. Hydrow Wave is going to dominate the market. What a miss from peloton
Blatant rip-off of the Concept 2 rower (in production since 1981)-and for 3X the cost.
Just an observation. Why do they have an overweight female coach.
Great review! I’m in and it’s on its way. Will let you know how it goes. 🚣♂️