I have looked everywhere to find this comparison. I came across your video comparing the pc38x to the 560s and liked it so much I looked at your other videos and found this. Awesome!
I already owned the PC38X and bought the EPOS H6 open, they sound identical (I did a/b with the PC38X velour pads). H6 was much more comfortable w/ less clamp.
I have the h6pro Sebring open back on series X, love it! Fit and feel is great and the sound is awesome, often my team mates say how did you hear that and opponent have accused me of cheating...he knew where I was... That's because I can hear you!
You are absolutely right. The imaging on this headset is excellent. My squad mates use Cooler Master MH751's and Astro A20's, and as good as those headsets are, my squad mates can't keep up with my kill death ratio. That's because I can hear every damn thing with the H6Pro and the PC38X.
@@StickyGekoi dont rlly get dolby atmos so does it make the imaging better? And do u need it for the inaging to be good or is it good right out the box?
Would you recommend the h6 pro as a replacement to the pc38x to this day, or would you have something else in mind? Just trying to get immersed in some open world stuff like RDR2. 38x has a known nasty volume dial defect which has unfortunately affected me.
As many of the commenters, I’m torn between the H6 and the Pc38x. I wear glasses, play sound intensive games and my background may be noisy at points but mainly is quiet. Which would you suggest? Thanks I’m advance
Why not? They’re not radically different. Lots of people want a comparison knowing all to well that the headsets in question differ in one or two areas. Where possible I try to keep closed-back with closed-back, but it’s not always possible. The PC38X only came in open-back, and I’ve lost count of how many of my viewers wanted to know if the H6Pro was better in comparison.
@@District.24 I just think it would be complete if you were to compare open back vs open back. The H6pro open is almost just as open as my 58x. Just throwing it your way. Glad your channel is picking up you deserve it.
I own the GSP500, the PC38x and the H6pro open back, the H6 is just the GSP with better design, more bassy and intimate than the PC38x. For music I prefer the PC38x, more natural sounding without feeling bloated. For gaming the PC38x is also better for me as the Soundstage is slightly larger and the low ends are balanced so I can still hear other sounds without them being drowned out. H6/GSP are great for single player games and movies with more punch and oomph. Mic wise (plugging in straight into my PC motherboard), I find that the H6Pro removable mic has ok quality, a tiny bit worse than the GSP mic, a bit more nasally compress effect, but better background noise cancelation. It is much better than the PC38x mic however, which picks up too much plosives (p,b sounds and breathing noise due to its sensitivity). Comfort wise, H6 is best for me, more streamline vs the GSP, less clamp than the other 2, numbered sides, removable mic and best looking. The PC38x clamp is not bad but is nonlinear so the bigger the user's head, the tighter the clamp. I had to stretch mine over the PC case to ease it. The PC38x earpads are also narrower and longer, so there is a tiny bit of clamp force under and behind the ears. It comes with 2 types of pads in the box, mesh and velour. The mesh are softer without the foam inside, provides breathability and airiness while the velour feels better on skin, but has foam and traps more bass.
@@AssassinKID what you said is likely spot on. I haven’t tried the Pc38x mostly because I know how I am and would return them due to aesthetics. Just not a fan of the design but that’s totally preference. The H6pro just checks all the boxes for me. Good sound, imaging. Amazing comfort, probably the most comfortable headset iv ever worn. It’s all in one so just one cable and the build and aesthetics are slightly better than my hd58x. I have it plugged into my gsx.
@@nashwalker7 Yep, I also use the H6Pro as my main headset now. Though I prefer the tonality and sound balance of the PC38x, the comfort, build quality and removable mic feature of the H6Pro are too hard to pass up.
You'll get comfort and sound from both, but superior comfort from the H6Pro. You have to decide which type of sound experience you want, and then from that you can decide which (open or closed) is better for your needs. Let me share with you an example. I use both the PC38X (open-back) and the H6Pro (closed-back). When I'm alone I will use the PC38X, because I won't be disturbing my family, I can still hear if someone is at the door, and the sound stage is broader when playin my game of choice (BFV). When the family is home, so as not to disturb them, especially late at night, and to not be distracted by the sound of my kid yelling, I will use my H6Pro.
Im a little confused by the Coolermaster mh751 mic feedback comment, that headset is a closedback, your saying you still get feed back enough though its closed? I've been looking at those as well since they are a remake of the takstar pro82
I can’t know as to why there is sound leakage coming from the MH751, but I can tell you this: that headset is very light, and all the headsets I experience this problem with are light - with a hollowness to the cups. So perhaps they’re all lacking some sort of sound dampening. Again, I don’t know, but what I do know is that it’s happening. I always test my headsets with friends and strangers online. If they can hear themselves feeding back, and I can’t fix it on my end, I return the headset.
I cant find this answer anywhere. Does this mic have sidetone? Can i hear myself a little bit? Is there a software to adjust things? And is it 48KHz 16Bit???? Please thank you!!
listening/ watching this review with my pc38x i picked up last week. BF deal for $120. glad the only real difference is comfort, the clamping force is fine for me even with glasses, and the sound is so freaking good. XD
Hey Troy I'm looking forward to buy one of these, but what its better the PC38X or the H6pro, and also what its better open or closed? I like bass but also I want amazing clarity and sound (I have a PS4). Thanks.
yes it is 2022. end of january, but where i live in Europe.. the H6Pro costs the equivalent of $194USD local VAT in the price included in a webshop, but the PC38X+shipping+customs+VAT costs $251USD.. so here PC38X is more expensive..
I too have the Game One. The clamping force on those are painful. Same with the PC38X. The Game Zero were not painful, nor was the H6PRO or GSP 301 or the EPOS H3.
How would you compare the Sennheiser 58x and the h6pro closed back? Is the imaging significantly better on one then the other? I am currently using a 58x and love it but im thinking of getting a closed back as well
The 58X has been a bad purchase for me. It never lived up to my expectations - even after modifying it - although it did improve. The imaging on the 58X is well below the level of the H6PRO, PC38X and HD560S.
I love open-backs. I have headsets that are open-back. I have an H6Pro closed-back, because I play late at night when my family is sleeping. There is less sound leakage with a closed back.
Thanks for the review, I was looking between the GSP601 and the H6Pro, I use it especially for warzone (I have hear the foosteps wel) and videos etc Which one would you pick up for this use?
@@District.24 Thanks for the answer, I will wait for the Black friday at the end of the month, maybe I will find a great deal with the gsx 1000. Bye bye From France
@@District.24 thanks a lot, indeed i don't use my gsp 670 on R6S i prefere my pc38x for that. But i like the theater bassy sound of the gsp 670. And do you have an idea of the differences between h6pro and gsp 600 from a sound point of view only ? Gsp 670 and 600 are apparently different... And 600 is really cheap in France now... Best regards
In your opinion which of the following headphones would you choose for competitive FPS gaming. Epos H6 Pro Closed, Sennheiser HD560S, Philips Fidelio X2HR, or Beyerdynamic Tygr 300R? I’m stuck on all of these
I can’t comment on the X2HR as I’ve never used one. As for the other three, I would choose the H6PRO, even though the HD560S has slightly better imaging.
@@District.24 what is your reasoning for choosing the H6Pro over the 560S if you don’t mind me asking? Is it simply comfort? Thank you for answering my original question btw!
Hi. Although I found the imaging on the HD560S slightly better than the H6PRO, I preferred the sound signature of the H6PRO. The HD560S was too flat for me, but it was designed to be. It's a reference headphones not a gaming headset. For gaming (FPS), the H6PRO had the right balance of bass, mids and highs...but damn...the HD560S is a sweet headset. I have a video on it. You should check it out.
@@District.24 Sweet good to know! thank you. Looking to upgrade soon and i love my hd650s so i thought Sennheiser would make a great choice. Love the content bro, can’t wait to see more
Not sure if you can help with this question but I recently bought the Razer Blackshark V2 Pro for my Series X and while they sound okay, I'm not too impressed with them on the Xbox for the price. Would these H6Pro's be better than the Blackshark V2?
I would say yes, but because I don’t own an Xbox I can’t confirm that. Try it yourself, just make sure there is a return policy incase you don’t like it.
@@District.24 Just ordered the H6Pro from Amazon, should be delivered today, thankfully the Blackshark I bought are returnable till March so I have some time, I'll update here once I test them both tonight, thanks for the response!
So the H6Pro are hands down better than the Blackshark V2 Pro for the Series X! Much better directionality and clarity on the H6Pro, mic is better and my friends don’t hear the echo they used to on the Blackshark. So it’s going back to Best Buy and I’m sticking with the H6Pro now!
@@nishantpatel91 Thanks for sharing this, really helpful for me. How's the noise isolation compared to the Blacksharks? And is it getting hot inside the H6's earcups?
@@District.24 so they don’t sound as crisp as the hd58x but they are exactly what I would want in a gaming headset. And the comfort. My damn I could wear them all day. Good find brother.
Agree, I don't know how pc38x and pc37x got so much love, the clamping force on those are insane, feels ok for the first 30minutes then it just diggs in gives me headache.
Unfortunately, I can’t. I’ve never used the Virtuoso RGB. Based on reviews by others, I would categorize the H6Pro and PC38X as being superior in sound to the Virtuoso.
I currently own an Arctis Pro Wireless, not sure if youve used that before but I play a lot of fps like Tarkov, MW and BF5. In terms of sound performance would the H6Pro be an upgrade?
IMO, yes. I used the Arctis Pro Wireless, and many others too, and I’m yet to find anything with better imaging than the PC38X, H6Pro and the HD560S. The H6Pro being more comfortable than the PC38X, and having a more enjoyable sound than the HD560S. Plus the addition of the mic.
@@District.24 Nicee, I was just looking at the HD560s just last night but with this reply, you have put an ease to my choices. H6Pro it is 😁, might go with Closed back version
Hey man dumb question but I’m looking for good quality headphones for halo infinite. Should I get the h6pro or razer blackshark v2 pro. Currently the the v2s are 129.99 but if the the quality on these are good then I wouldn’t mind paying extra.
Do you have experience with the Sony 1000MX3s? If so, do you have an option/comparison on the in-game sound quality between those and either the PC38X or H6Pro? Right now I'm using the MX3s with a mic attachment from V-MODA but there always seems to be a minor issue with the mic and I'm curious about trying out something designed for gaming but I'm worried about taking a hit in sound-quality, especially if I'd be losing the active-noise cancelling from the MX3s
One of the many things I like about the H6Pro is how loud it is. I have hearing loss, and even I find it too loud at times. The problem you are having is not the headset, unless you have a dud. If all your volumes are turned up, and it's not loud enough for you, because of your onboard sound card, then you will need an amp. I plug mine directly into my PS5 controller and it's loud. I use it with my GSX 1000 amp on my PC, and it is loud.
In terms of music what headphone can you recommended? Is there any significant difference between gaming headphone and non gaming headphone? Sorry for my bad english
The difference between a headphone and headset is the microphone. Headsets come with built in mics. There are many great headphones for music, which is outside my scope of knowledge. If we keep the conversation to gaming headsets then I recommend the EPOS H6Pro. It’s awesome for gaming and music.
Ok so I am using the HS6pro open backs plugged into the Creative Katana V2 and I am not liking it. It doesn't seem to be the mixing, I just feel like the sound is really "harsh" and highs are "scratchy", and not in a sense of broken. They sound like "good" headsets, just not pleasant.
I use the GSX1000, and that on 70% volume equals 100% volume of the GSX300. The GSX300 sound signature is lovely, but more volume is often desired. Luckily the H6PRO and the PC38X produce a very loud sound, meaning the GSX300 doesn’t have to work too hard. On a PC, it’s not worth the money, but your ears may disagree.
I have never had any problems with the PC38X's performance. I've never used it with an Xbox Series X. All I can suggest is to lower the mic sensitivity, and move the mic down to it's lowest position and away from your mouth.
H6Pro. The MMX 150 has inferior comfort and design, although it does offer a USB-A or 3.5 mm connection (two separate cables). That's nice. No flip to mute mic. The sound on the 150 is very good, and the mic performance is decent too.
First of all really good video I'm looking forward to new ones. What would you say? You prefer the GSP600 Open or the H6Pro Open? Unfortunately, my Sennheiser Game Zero broke and I am now looking for a new open headset.
And I just got in the H6’s yesterday and yep double hinges… They are just in slightly different positions from each other. Please don’t comment when you have no clue how physics works or what people are talking about.
Also just watched that video you did and the H3 is perfect for me. Was able to buy 2 pairs for $79.99 each. I couldn't decide between the white and black so I got both at that price. Great informative video btw.
The H6PRO is loud as f@$k, so if yours is low and it’s not the volume setting on the unit or in the console/PC then there’s a problem. Troubleshoot using a secondary headset. Best of luck.
Great video! Want to change the headset recently, I want to ask that what amp you're using or you just plug it into the PC? Also want to ask how does the weight feel? Since the h6 pro is heavier but have a better weight distribution( what I hear ). Thank you so much!
I plug it into the Schiit Hel 2 dac/amp combo. The weight of the H6PRO is well distributed, and the headset feels good on the head. Check specs for actual weight.
@@District.24I just bought the epos h6pro because of you. I have the 2023 lenovo legion slim 5 and wonder would you recommend buying a dac for my h6pro or would plugging it in the laptop be good enough. How big is the difference actually and how much dufference do you notice with vs without?
I did a video on the DT 770 Pro vs PC38X. You can get all the info you want from that video, as the H6Pro is like the PC38X, but with better comfort and design.
I really want deep , great bass for singleplayer games. I loved my Hyper xcloud alpha with Halo Infinite. Does this Epos h6 closed back go as deep as thd Alphas, you think/know?
When I play on the PS5, I connect my PC38X and H6Pro directly into the controller. If I want to use a hight impedance headphone/headset with my PS5, I plug it into my Schiit Hel 2.
@@District.24 would you benefit from plugging your pc38x into your hel 2 through your pc or ps5? also what other headphone do you run through the hel 2?
I recently purchased the EPOS h6pro open back for my Xbox series x. They seem very quiet even when turned up fully on the headset. Is this normal ? Can I turn up the volume anymore ? Thanks 🙏
@@District.24 I don’t think so, it’s plugged into my Xbox pad. I’m not very tech savvy they just seem very quiet even on full volume. Thanks for the reply. Did you find the volume a problem ?
I figured out the problem, in a hard to find sub menu on xbox live there is a volume control. Very hard to find only on 50 percent volume. I turned them up to 100 percent and they are fine. Thanks for the help 👍👍
Isn't that the way it always is. We are all smart people, but we all forgot to check the volume levels. LOL. Sorry, I just assumed you did that already. LOL..
I have some questions regarding the build quality. Does it make out of mostly plastic and how good do you think the H6Pro build quality compare to something like the DT 770. I want something that will last me 4-5 years and the only thing that stopped me from buying the pc38x is the build quality, too much plastic :(
Well, I still own the Sennheiser Game One and Game Zero, which came out seven years ago. They are both hard plastic like the PC38X, and there is not a scratch on them. They work perfectly. Admittedly, I don't abuse my headsets/headphones, but trust me when I tell you that these audio devices are solid, and will only break if you abuse them. I've only had the H6Pro for a couple of months, but I have no reason to believe it will fail due to quality control issues. None of my other Sennheiser (EPOS) headsets and headphones have. The H6Pro is made out of mostly hard plastic with some metal in it. It will last just as long as the DT 770 if you don't abuse it, but if you were to drop them both off the roof of your house, my money is on the DT 770 to survive.
Outside noise isn’t really an issue for me so I prefer open backs. Should I get the open back h6pro over the pc38x? Would the imaging accurate and footsteps direction be better on the h6pro? I’m asking this because the pc38x has higher frequency range and bass isn’t really important for footsteps
I currently own a Logitech G Pro X Lightspeed Wireless Headset, and I want to upgrade. I've been looking at PC38X and H6 Pro, but can't decide which one to go for. I mainly play CSGO and watch TH-cam videos and listen to music on Spotify on my computer. Which one should I go for?
Great video! I’m sold on the H6 pro. My PC38X feels so cheap and it creaks and cracks on my head from the super cheap materials. I’m not sure about the open vs closed though. I love being able to hear myself talk and my surroundings. I’m stuck.
thanks man for this video...i praise you last year i bought ps5 headset..it was clamped hard nd after 40mins i feel fatigued nd tired nd ears forced nd ears warmed air tight so im moving to open ear style need air lol 😂
I bought both and for music the PC38X sound amazing. The sound is just so natural and makes me feel good. The H6Pro (for me) is inferior and just sounds dull. I tried the PC38X for 4 days and received H6Pro on the 5th, and it just felt like a downgrade. As if dull and weirdly tuned sounds were just being thrown at my ears. Also the balance seemed not perfect, similar to my Razer blackshark v2 x. To me, the PC38X sound premium, whereas the H6pro sound more bass-ey but off in other aspects and overall just a good gaming headset, not a good overall headset.
Firstly, it’s about comparing the headsets that people want compared, because those are the ones they’re interested in. Secondly, you can’t always get two open-back versions or two closed-back versions. Lastly, the sound difference between open-back and closed back isn’t radically different. I have plenty of followers who ask me to compare headsets to headphones, cheap vs expensive. So my comparisons are what they are, and you’re just going to have to accept it.
I have looked everywhere to find this comparison. I came across your video comparing the pc38x to the 560s and liked it so much I looked at your other videos and found this. Awesome!
Also, I love your videos. Keep it up and you will get big!
Glad it was helpful!
wow. completely underrated channel. This is incredible. production quality is peak.
Welcome to the channel. Why don’t you share with us all which headset you’re currently rocking, and which one you’re looking to buy.
damn, how is this channel so small... you have awesome quality of videos, keep it up
Thank you. It's small, because I just started. :)
I already owned the PC38X and bought the EPOS H6 open, they sound identical (I did a/b with the PC38X velour pads). H6 was much more comfortable w/ less clamp.
Exactly! :)
Soundstage, imaging, stacking (able to directionally hear footsteps above and below), etc. Is identical?
The PC38x and H6 Pro sound so much better than the GSP 500.
You know everyone who owns them? Wow!
@@District.24 I thought the GSP 500 and PC38x have the same drivers with just different casing?
I was looking for this exactly. Subbed.
Welcome to the channel.
Awesome review man. Just subscribed. Looking forward to your eoy best headset video!
Yeah man. Thanks for the sub. That video comes out December. Next video will be on my favourite closed back headset.
super helpful video - thank you!
I have the h6pro Sebring open back on series X, love it! Fit and feel is great and the sound is awesome, often my team mates say how did you hear that and opponent have accused me of cheating...he knew where I was... That's because I can hear you!
You are absolutely right. The imaging on this headset is excellent. My squad mates use Cooler Master MH751's and Astro A20's, and as good as those headsets are, my squad mates can't keep up with my kill death ratio. That's because I can hear every damn thing with the H6Pro and the PC38X.
I just ordered these to try.
I guess with this headset and my Creative Katana V2 and its SXFI settings I will be hearing enemies breathing a km away?
@@j.d.4697 I just use Dolby Atmos on Xbox and can hear people well, so hope you can too
@@StickyGekoi dont rlly get dolby atmos so does it make the imaging better? And do u need it for the inaging to be good or is it good right out the box?
Would you recommend the h6 pro as a replacement to the pc38x to this day, or would you have something else in mind? Just trying to get immersed in some open world stuff like RDR2.
38x has a known nasty volume dial defect which has unfortunately affected me.
EPOS H3 or H6PRO.
@ Thanks for the recommendation man. 👍
As many of the commenters, I’m torn between the H6 and the Pc38x. I wear glasses, play sound intensive games and my background may be noisy at points but mainly is quiet. Which would you suggest? Thanks I’m advance
H6Pro. The comfort is superior.
Totally just realized this was for the closed back design. Don’t understand why the comparison between an open back vs closed?
Why not? They’re not radically different. Lots of people want a comparison knowing all to well that the headsets in question differ in one or two areas. Where possible I try to keep closed-back with closed-back, but it’s not always possible. The PC38X only came in open-back, and I’ve lost count of how many of my viewers wanted to know if the H6Pro was better in comparison.
@@District.24 I just think it would be complete if you were to compare open back vs open back. The H6pro open is almost just as open as my 58x. Just throwing it your way. Glad your channel is picking up you deserve it.
I own the GSP500, the PC38x and the H6pro open back, the H6 is just the GSP with better design, more bassy and intimate than the PC38x. For music I prefer the PC38x, more natural sounding without feeling bloated. For gaming the PC38x is also better for me as the Soundstage is slightly larger and the low ends are balanced so I can still hear other sounds without them being drowned out. H6/GSP are great for single player games and movies with more punch and oomph.
Mic wise (plugging in straight into my PC motherboard), I find that the H6Pro removable mic has ok quality, a tiny bit worse than the GSP mic, a bit more nasally compress effect, but better background noise cancelation. It is much better than the PC38x mic however, which picks up too much plosives (p,b sounds and breathing noise due to its sensitivity).
Comfort wise, H6 is best for me, more streamline vs the GSP, less clamp than the other 2, numbered sides, removable mic and best looking. The PC38x clamp is not bad but is nonlinear so the bigger the user's head, the tighter the clamp. I had to stretch mine over the PC case to ease it. The PC38x earpads are also narrower and longer, so there is a tiny bit of clamp force under and behind the ears. It comes with 2 types of pads in the box, mesh and velour. The mesh are softer without the foam inside, provides breathability and airiness while the velour feels better on skin, but has foam and traps more bass.
@@AssassinKID what you said is likely spot on. I haven’t tried the Pc38x mostly because I know how I am and would return them due to aesthetics. Just not a fan of the design but that’s totally preference. The H6pro just checks all the boxes for me. Good sound, imaging. Amazing comfort, probably the most comfortable headset iv ever worn. It’s all in one so just one cable and the build and aesthetics are slightly better than my hd58x. I have it plugged into my gsx.
@@nashwalker7 Yep, I also use the H6Pro as my main headset now. Though I prefer the tonality and sound balance of the PC38x, the comfort, build quality and removable mic feature of the H6Pro are too hard to pass up.
Open or closed back? I need comfort & sound, which?
You'll get comfort and sound from both, but superior comfort from the H6Pro. You have to decide which type of sound experience you want, and then from that you can decide which (open or closed) is better for your needs. Let me share with you an example. I use both the PC38X (open-back) and the H6Pro (closed-back). When I'm alone I will use the PC38X, because I won't be disturbing my family, I can still hear if someone is at the door, and the sound stage is broader when playin my game of choice (BFV). When the family is home, so as not to disturb them, especially late at night, and to not be distracted by the sound of my kid yelling, I will use my H6Pro.
Im a little confused by the Coolermaster mh751 mic feedback comment, that headset is a closedback, your saying you still get feed back enough though its closed?
I've been looking at those as well since they are a remake of the takstar pro82
I can’t know as to why there is sound leakage coming from the MH751, but I can tell you this: that headset is very light, and all the headsets I experience this problem with are light - with a hollowness to the cups. So perhaps they’re all lacking some sort of sound dampening. Again, I don’t know, but what I do know is that it’s happening. I always test my headsets with friends and strangers online. If they can hear themselves feeding back, and I can’t fix it on my end, I return the headset.
@@District.24 fair enough, thank you!
Hey just to note the PC38x has a different sound profile with the velour pads to the stock ones. Most people agree the stock ones sound better.
Thanks for sharing. Pads do change the sound.
Hey brother which one would you recommend for the ps5? I play call of duty, ranked and warzone 2
H6PRO. If possible, try both, but I like the H6PRO more - in all areas.
@Troy Online I've Just gone and bought the nova pro wired. Would you be able to tell me if it's any good compared to H6PRO
I cant find this answer anywhere. Does this mic have sidetone? Can i hear myself a little bit? Is there a software to adjust things? And is it 48KHz 16Bit???? Please thank you!!
Sidetone is not built into it. The EPOS software is for the wireless headsets only.
It would be interesting to see how the open back h6pro compare to the pc38x...
It would. Alas, I have no plans to purchase the open back model.
Great review!
Glad you enjoyed it.
Thanks bro! Just got one with sweet price 110 us! No matter the age if the headphones doing what it has to 😊😊😊
Nice 👍
listening/ watching this review with my pc38x i picked up last week. BF deal for $120. glad the only real difference is comfort, the clamping force is fine for me even with glasses, and the sound is so freaking good. XD
Good stuff!
Hey Troy I'm looking forward to buy one of these, but what its better the PC38X or the H6pro, and also what its better open or closed? I like bass but also I want amazing clarity and sound (I have a PS4). Thanks.
Ok thank you so much, and also for gaming wins over the opened? Btw amazing channel and videos all ready subscribe!
Thank you so much really appreciate it, i will buy them now!
The leather headband really turns me off. Does it peel off after long term usage ?
So far it has not peeled off. I’m about 6-months in.
@@District.24 do you think the headband is serviceable ?
If it fell under warranty it would be. So far I’ve had no problems. I will report on it, again, in October.
yes it is 2022. end of january, but where i live in Europe..
the H6Pro costs the equivalent of $194USD local VAT in the price included in a webshop,
but the PC38X+shipping+customs+VAT costs $251USD..
so here PC38X is more expensive..
The H6Pro is the better choice.
most comfortable out of them? what has less clamp force? i have the game one that looks like the 38X, my game one gives me headache
I too have the Game One. The clamping force on those are painful. Same with the PC38X. The Game Zero were not painful, nor was the H6PRO or GSP 301 or the EPOS H3.
How would you compare the Sennheiser 58x and the h6pro closed back? Is the imaging significantly better on one then the other? I am currently using a 58x and love it but im thinking of getting a closed back as well
The 58X has been a bad purchase for me. It never lived up to my expectations - even after modifying it - although it did improve. The imaging on the 58X is well below the level of the H6PRO, PC38X and HD560S.
@@District.24 ive thought about trying the 560s as well if its on sale black friday
Which one has better noise cancelling? Like if I’m typing on the keyboard or have a fan in the background
H6PRO, because it has a closed-back version. The PC38X only comes in an open-back version.
@@District.24 thank you so much !!
So the open back have the same bass as closed? How about in the sub bass?
Bass wise. They’re sound identical to me. Highs is where they differ.
Why didn't you get the open back version of the H6Pro?
Don't like open backs?
I love open-backs. I have headsets that are open-back. I have an H6Pro closed-back, because I play late at night when my family is sleeping. There is less sound leakage with a closed back.
H6 Pro even been a close back, have a crazy good sound stage. And pairing it with a Gsx1000 is even better.
Thanks for sharing.
How about the open back?
I liked the review, thanks! I would only say it was a bit long, and the camera turning all the time brought it down a little :)
Thanks for sharing.
Great video troy :D loved your point of view
Glad you enjoyed!
Thanks for the review, I was looking between the GSP601 and the H6Pro, I use it especially for warzone (I have hear the foosteps wel) and videos etc Which one would you pick up for this use?
H6Pro hands down. The imaging (directional cues like footsteps) is exceptional.
@@District.24 Thanks for the answer, I will wait for the Black friday at the end of the month, maybe I will find a great deal with the gsx 1000. Bye bye From France
@@District.24 i needed this answer
Thx for the video
Please tell me from a sound point of view your thought about
H6Pro VS GSP 670 and or GSP 600
H6Pro has a louder, clearer and better imaged sound signature than the GSP 670.
@@District.24 thanks a lot, indeed i don't use my gsp 670 on R6S i prefere my pc38x for that.
But i like the theater bassy sound of the gsp 670.
And do you have an idea of the differences between h6pro and gsp 600 from a sound point of view only ?
Gsp 670 and 600 are apparently different...
And 600 is really cheap in France now...
Best regards
What I would do is buy 3 headsets I'm interested in, then keep the one I like the most, and return the other two.
What do you think abt the beyerdynamic DT 990 PRO, I was thinking I’d get the 250 OHM with a amp or go with the Epos h6 pro/PC38X. What do you suggest
H6PRO. Enjoy!
dt 900 pro x
In your opinion which of the following headphones would you choose for competitive FPS gaming. Epos H6 Pro Closed, Sennheiser HD560S, Philips Fidelio X2HR, or Beyerdynamic Tygr 300R? I’m stuck on all of these
I can’t comment on the X2HR as I’ve never used one. As for the other three, I would choose the H6PRO, even though the HD560S has slightly better imaging.
@@District.24 what is your reasoning for choosing the H6Pro over the 560S if you don’t mind me asking? Is it simply comfort? Thank you for answering my original question btw!
Hi. Although I found the imaging on the HD560S slightly better than the H6PRO, I preferred the sound signature of the H6PRO. The HD560S was too flat for me, but it was designed to be. It's a reference headphones not a gaming headset. For gaming (FPS), the H6PRO had the right balance of bass, mids and highs...but damn...the HD560S is a sweet headset. I have a video on it. You should check it out.
bro you’re so underrated. you gained a sub. is the sound stage of the h6 better than the G pro X?
Absolutely it is. It’s a much more natural sound.
@@District.24 Sweet good to know! thank you. Looking to upgrade soon and i love my hd650s so i thought Sennheiser would make a great choice. Love the content bro, can’t wait to see more
Not sure if you can help with this question but I recently bought the Razer Blackshark V2 Pro for my Series X and while they sound okay, I'm not too impressed with them on the Xbox for the price. Would these H6Pro's be better than the Blackshark V2?
I would say yes, but because I don’t own an Xbox I can’t confirm that. Try it yourself, just make sure there is a return policy incase you don’t like it.
@@District.24 Just ordered the H6Pro from Amazon, should be delivered today, thankfully the Blackshark I bought are returnable till March so I have some time, I'll update here once I test them both tonight, thanks for the response!
So the H6Pro are hands down better than the Blackshark V2 Pro for the Series X! Much better directionality and clarity on the H6Pro, mic is better and my friends don’t hear the echo they used to on the Blackshark. So it’s going back to Best Buy and I’m sticking with the H6Pro now!
@@nishantpatel91 Thanks for sharing this, really helpful for me. How's the noise isolation compared to the Blacksharks? And is it getting hot inside the H6's earcups?
Ended up returning even the H6Pro and went with the Audeze LCD-GX in the end, although the H6Pro were excellent as well
Troy what are your thoughts about the imaging of the hd58x vs H6pro? Like which would you prefer for competitive gaming?
H6Pro. I never liked the 58X for gaming, even when I modded it to make it sound better. Couldn’t get it to sound great even with amps.
Alright I broke, just bought the H6pro and the gsx1200 since it was on sale. Just want better accuracy while playing fps
@@District.24 so they don’t sound as crisp as the hd58x but they are exactly what I would want in a gaming headset. And the comfort. My damn I could wear them all day. Good find brother.
This is what I'm looking for, choosing between HD58x and H6Pro. Thanks bro!
What was your 2021 headset
EPOS H6PRO
Agree, I don't know how pc38x and pc37x got so much love, the clamping force on those are insane, feels ok for the first 30minutes then it just diggs in gives me headache.
People ignored the discomfort because the sound and mic is so good.
They’re definitely not the same. Although bright, the 37X is a better sound than the Game One. I own the Game One and the Game Zero.
Same way I can wear a cuck mask at work all day and my ears are so sore they hurt at the end lol
can you link the site where you ordered the ear peds for the pc38x?
dekoniaudio.com
Hi Troy, can the H6pro easily be driven by the Sennheiser GSX 1000? Thanks
Yes, it can. It’s a nice combo.
Hey Troy, How would you compare the sound quality of these to the Corsair Virtuoso RGB? Great video. Cheers
Unfortunately, I can’t. I’ve never used the Virtuoso RGB. Based on reviews by others, I would categorize the H6Pro and PC38X as being superior in sound to the Virtuoso.
I currently own an Arctis Pro Wireless, not sure if youve used that before but I play a lot of fps like Tarkov, MW and BF5. In terms of sound performance would the H6Pro be an upgrade?
IMO, yes. I used the Arctis Pro Wireless, and many others too, and I’m yet to find anything with better imaging than the PC38X, H6Pro and the HD560S. The H6Pro being more comfortable than the PC38X, and having a more enjoyable sound than the HD560S. Plus the addition of the mic.
@@District.24 Nicee, I was just looking at the HD560s just last night but with this reply, you have put an ease to my choices. H6Pro it is 😁, might go with Closed back version
What about the DT990 Pro compared to the H6?
Never used the DT 990 Pro. I do have a video on the DT770 pro though.
Hey man dumb question but I’m looking for good quality headphones for halo infinite. Should I get the h6pro or razer blackshark v2 pro. Currently the the v2s are 129.99 but if the the quality on these are good then I wouldn’t mind paying extra.
If you can afford the H6Pro then that is the one you should buy. You just have to decide if you want open or closed-back.
@@District.24 awesome thanks for the response!
Yo I had the same exact question for the same reason, see ya on the other side Spartan
@@musicwatcher100 heck yea getting them tomorrow Spartan !
@@SwizzPrime yooooooo same *edit* i see this was from 14 hours ago, ill be a day late but hell yeah
Do you have experience with the Sony 1000MX3s? If so, do you have an option/comparison on the in-game sound quality between those and either the PC38X or H6Pro? Right now I'm using the MX3s with a mic attachment from V-MODA but there always seems to be a minor issue with the mic and I'm curious about trying out something designed for gaming but I'm worried about taking a hit in sound-quality, especially if I'd be losing the active-noise cancelling from the MX3s
Unfortunately, I do not. :(
Thank you ich was looking for such a comparison. Helps me a lot :-)
Glad it was helpful!
Which would you say are superior for single player games? (Elden ring, gow, rdr2 etc)
H6PRO for the win
hey I cancelled my PC38X order and got the H6 Pro solely off your video. I like the sound of it but its too low in volume will an amp fix the issue?
One of the many things I like about the H6Pro is how loud it is. I have hearing loss, and even I find it too loud at times. The problem you are having is not the headset, unless you have a dud. If all your volumes are turned up, and it's not loud enough for you, because of your onboard sound card, then you will need an amp. I plug mine directly into my PS5 controller and it's loud. I use it with my GSX 1000 amp on my PC, and it is loud.
In terms of music what headphone can you recommended? Is there any significant difference between gaming headphone and non gaming headphone? Sorry for my bad english
The difference between a headphone and headset is the microphone. Headsets come with built in mics.
There are many great headphones for music, which is outside my scope of knowledge. If we keep the conversation to gaming headsets then I recommend the EPOS H6Pro. It’s awesome for gaming and music.
Ok so I am using the HS6pro open backs plugged into the Creative Katana V2 and I am not liking it.
It doesn't seem to be the mixing, I just feel like the sound is really "harsh" and highs are "scratchy", and not in a sense of broken. They sound like "good" headsets, just not pleasant.
Thanks for sharing.
I feel the same way ! Did you change for an other one ?
can you gave as best wireless name headphone with mic ?
Corsair HS80. Very good sound. Excellent mic.
Anyone know if GSX300 soundcard elevates this headphone to the next level or it's not worth the cost? thanks!
I use the GSX1000, and that on 70% volume equals 100% volume of the GSX300. The GSX300 sound signature is lovely, but more volume is often desired. Luckily the H6PRO and the PC38X produce a very loud sound, meaning the GSX300 doesn’t have to work too hard. On a PC, it’s not worth the money, but your ears may disagree.
Hey, any help on the pc38x. The mic picks up everything on Xbox series x and I have a pop filter
I have never had any problems with the PC38X's performance. I've never used it with an Xbox Series X. All I can suggest is to lower the mic sensitivity, and move the mic down to it's lowest position and away from your mouth.
H6pro vs beyerdynamic mmx150 which one is better?
H6Pro. The MMX 150 has inferior comfort and design, although it does offer a USB-A or 3.5 mm connection (two separate cables). That's nice. No flip to mute mic. The sound on the 150 is very good, and the mic performance is decent too.
@@District.24 thanks. I have a question does Pc38x have any app? And h6pro to does it have any app?
First of all really good video I'm looking forward to new ones.
What would you say? You prefer the GSP600 Open or the H6Pro Open?
Unfortunately, my Sennheiser Game Zero broke and I am now looking for a new open headset.
H6PRO (open) for the win. Enjoy!
@@District.24 k, Thanks
I got the EPOS H6Pro for $120 and i'm happy with it. Nice video by the way.
Glad I could help. :)
Man I can’t believe a closed back beat out an open back especially for fps
Believe it! :)
i can, personally i hate open backs
@@andreyboyko752 same I like to keep my sounds concealed
What do you prefer open backs or closed on the epos h6
I play mostly FPS games so closed-back.
They both have double hinges FYI. They have the same axis pivots.
No, they do not. I own both.
@@District.24 He showed they had two hinges in his video… What are you even talking about. Do you understand how axis work? I think not.
And I just got in the H6’s yesterday and yep double hinges… They are just in slightly different positions from each other. Please don’t comment when you have no clue how physics works or what people are talking about.
Have you tried the Epos HE by any chance? Curious about the difference in soubd
Do you mean H3? I did a video on it.
@@District.24 Yes I did.....phone always auto corrected H3 to HE and I never catch it. Thanks
Also just watched that video you did and the H3 is perfect for me. Was able to buy 2 pairs for $79.99 each. I couldn't decide between the white and black so I got both at that price. Great informative video btw.
Glad I could help.
Anyone know how to use the gaming suite or epos connect app to modify the epos h6 pros? I cant figure it out.
That’s for the wireless headsets like the GSP 670 and the H3PRO Hybrid.
@@District.24 Oh ok. Is there no app to modify these then?
Nothing on PlayStation, but in the PC world I have heard of EQ apps you can use. I don't know the names...sorry.
@@District.24 it's alright, I'll find one later, but this headset seems to be adjusted perfectly already so I dont need any software at the moment.
Which do u like better now
H6Pro.
@@District.24 is the mic pretty much the same that’s what I’m looking for
Yes. They’re both excellent in sound and mic performance. The H6Pro has superior comfort.
Can you compare the PC38X to the Game One?
Sure. Look out for it soon.
Is H6Pro good for use with ipad?
If you’re iPad accepts a 3.5mm audio connection, then yes.
Aside from minor design difference is there any difference compared to the senheiser gsp500's?
Comfort. Sound and mic performance.
My headphone seems soft when connect to ps5 controller. Help.... anyone facing this problem
The H6PRO is loud as f@$k, so if yours is low and it’s not the volume setting on the unit or in the console/PC then there’s a problem. Troubleshoot using a secondary headset. Best of luck.
Great video! Want to change the headset recently, I want to ask that what amp you're using or you just plug it into the PC? Also want to ask how does the weight feel? Since the h6 pro is heavier but have a better weight distribution( what I hear ). Thank you so much!
I plug it into the Schiit Hel 2 dac/amp combo. The weight of the H6PRO is well distributed, and the headset feels good on the head. Check specs for actual weight.
@@District.24I just bought the epos h6pro because of you. I have the 2023 lenovo legion slim 5 and wonder would you recommend buying a dac for my h6pro or would plugging it in the laptop be good enough. How big is the difference actually and how much dufference do you notice with vs without?
Have you tried mmx 300 vs h6pro?
No, because it would be no contest. The MMX 300 isn't that good. A better comparison would be the Tygr 300r vs H6Pro.
Which of these 3 would be the best choice to use on PS4 PRO?
H6Pro is always the better choice.
Hey how does the h6 pro(closed) compare to dt 770 pro for gaming ?
I did a video on the DT 770 Pro vs PC38X. You can get all the info you want from that video, as the H6Pro is like the PC38X, but with better comfort and design.
I really want deep , great bass for singleplayer games. I loved my Hyper xcloud alpha with Halo Infinite. Does this Epos h6 closed back go as deep as thd Alphas, you think/know?
The H6PRO has an excellent sound signature, but it does not meet the requirements of those who are bass-heads.
@@District.24 Thanks. 👍
Which is better gsp600 or h6pro ?
H6PRO. It’s made the 600-series obsolete.
I like the content very much ty for the info
Glad to hear it!
If you had the choice between the MMX300, Epos Game One and H6 Pro, which would you choose?
Epos H6Pro.
Good video. Subscribed.
Greatly appreciated.
Living in the UK i can buy the H6 Pro Open for £150 and the PC38X is £180 for some stupid reason so i guess it's a no brainer to go with H6 Pro
You go it, mate!
What about the Game Zero (new version) vs H6Pro?
I'm not aware of any new version of the Game Zero. Do you mean the H3Pro Hybrid?
What do you use to connect your headphones?
Great vid by the way.
When I play on the PS5, I connect my PC38X and H6Pro directly into the controller. If I want to use a hight impedance headphone/headset with my PS5, I plug it into my Schiit Hel 2.
@@District.24 would you benefit from plugging your pc38x into your hel 2 through your pc or ps5?
also what other headphone do you run through the hel 2?
Im really having trouble choosing between the PC38X vs H6 PRO open PLEASE SOMEONE HELP!!!
Choose the H6PRO.
@@District.24 thanks friend, what about DAC? I ordered a HAL 2e
The Hel 2e has a built in DAC. It's a DAC/AMP combo device.
@@District.24 Friend please do a HEL setup video
Nice video thanks
Most welcome
I recently purchased the EPOS h6pro open back for my Xbox series x. They seem very quiet even when turned up fully on the headset. Is this normal ? Can I turn up the volume anymore ? Thanks 🙏
Are you using an external amp?
@@District.24 I don’t think so, it’s plugged into my Xbox pad. I’m not very tech savvy they just seem very quiet even on full volume. Thanks for the reply. Did you find the volume a problem ?
It’s the Xbox controller. :( I use a PS5 and they’re loud. You should look into the Schiit Hel 2 dac/amp as a solution.
I figured out the problem, in a hard to find sub menu on xbox live there is a volume control. Very hard to find only on 50 percent volume. I turned them up to 100 percent and they are fine. Thanks for the help 👍👍
Isn't that the way it always is. We are all smart people, but we all forgot to check the volume levels. LOL. Sorry, I just assumed you did that already. LOL..
I have some questions regarding the build quality. Does it make out of mostly plastic and how good do you think the H6Pro build quality compare to something like the DT 770. I want something that will last me 4-5 years and the only thing that stopped me from buying the pc38x is the build quality, too much plastic :(
Well, I still own the Sennheiser Game One and Game Zero, which came out seven years ago. They are both hard plastic like the PC38X, and there is not a scratch on them. They work perfectly. Admittedly, I don't abuse my headsets/headphones, but trust me when I tell you that these audio devices are solid, and will only break if you abuse them. I've only had the H6Pro for a couple of months, but I have no reason to believe it will fail due to quality control issues. None of my other Sennheiser (EPOS) headsets and headphones have.
The H6Pro is made out of mostly hard plastic with some metal in it. It will last just as long as the DT 770 if you don't abuse it, but if you were to drop them both off the roof of your house, my money is on the DT 770 to survive.
@@District.24 What is the difference between the game zero and H6Pro? :)
Comfort, sound signature, imaging and functionality.
Outside noise isn’t really an issue for me so I prefer open backs. Should I get the open back h6pro over the pc38x? Would the imaging accurate and footsteps direction be better on the h6pro? I’m asking this because the pc38x has higher frequency range and bass isn’t really important for footsteps
H6Pro. Enjoy!
PC38X is $129 on Drop currently
That's also US dollars.
@@District.24 should still be cheaper for you
I currently own a Logitech G Pro X Lightspeed Wireless Headset, and I want to upgrade. I've been looking at PC38X and H6 Pro, but can't decide which one to go for. I mainly play CSGO and watch TH-cam videos and listen to music on Spotify on my computer. Which one should I go for?
H6Pro. It's more comfortable.
Great video! I’m sold on the H6 pro. My PC38X feels so cheap and it creaks and cracks on my head from the super cheap materials. I’m not sure about the open vs closed though. I love being able to hear myself talk and my surroundings. I’m stuck.
There's no need to be stuck. You said so yourself - you like to hear your surroundings and yourself talk. Buy the open version. Enjoy! :)
I see you have a PS5. How does it sound on PS5?
Sounds amazing. I wasn't expecting the H6Pro to be so good, but it definitely beats out the PC38X.
thanks man for this video...i praise you
last year i bought ps5 headset..it was clamped hard nd after 40mins i feel fatigued nd tired nd ears forced nd ears warmed air tight
so im moving to open ear style need air lol 😂
Glad I could help!
I bought both and for music the PC38X sound amazing. The sound is just so natural and makes me feel good. The H6Pro (for me) is inferior and just sounds dull. I tried the PC38X for 4 days and received H6Pro on the 5th, and it just felt like a downgrade. As if dull and weirdly tuned sounds were just being thrown at my ears. Also the balance seemed not perfect, similar to my Razer blackshark v2 x. To me, the PC38X sound premium, whereas the H6pro sound more bass-ey but off in other aspects and overall just a good gaming headset, not a good overall headset.
Sound is subjective, so we all hear things slightly differently. The important thing is you found a sound that you love. Enjoy and happy gaming. :)
Do you use any soundcard or DAC?
I have two I use occasionally. GSX1000 and Schiit Hel 2.
Hi Troy, you're comparing 🍏 to🍊, too bad you didn't compare the H6pro "OPEN" to PC38x, 😟
Firstly, it’s about comparing the headsets that people want compared, because those are the ones they’re interested in. Secondly, you can’t always get two open-back versions or two closed-back versions. Lastly, the sound difference between open-back and closed back isn’t radically different. I have plenty of followers who ask me to compare headsets to headphones, cheap vs expensive. So my comparisons are what they are, and you’re just going to have to accept it.
Oof. I just ordered the PC38X...
You haven't made a bad choice. Enjoy the PC38X, especially in an open world game and/or FPS. The imaging is fantastic.
I want to buy a gaming headset for my bro but his head is large.... like damn large. I'm guessing h6pro is the way to go
I would be surprised if it wasn’t. Can’t you just tape two external speakers to a baseball cap, and stick that on his head?
They all peel eventually unless it's cloth. Some people run hotter have have sweaty ears.
:)
There you go it’s back Hahahha
I forgot to put the title of the video in the video. LOL. So I re-did it and put it back up.
@@District.24 gotcha ha