Hi am interested in labour relations so I will like to ask it's easier to found employment if I have National labour relation diploma nqf level 5 or Its must to have a labour relation management nqf level 8 ? I will appreciate your feedback.Thank you
@@vincentngobeni3413 Hi Vincent. I'm not familiar with this credential. Can you send a link? I expect that any credential will help and will show commitment to the field; however they aren't strictly required. So much of it is about getting your toe in the door!
Hi Priyankh.s Good question. I should do an episode on it. Labour/industrial relations almost always refers to managing employees in the context of unions and collective agreements. Employee relations loosely relates to activities of discipline and, I would suggest, managing attendance in a non-union environment. These are usually guided by policy not collective agreements. I hope that helps!
Hi @@priyankh.s8379 I don't know about that interpretation. I don't think IR is conflict-focused. It's simply a relationship that is sometimes effective and sometimes not. In Canada it isn't a term that is used much anymore except at universities. 'Labour relations' is more common and refers to anything to do with unions. Employee relations is not, in my experience, collaboration-focused although there's no reason the processes couldn't be collaborative. It tends to refer more often to very traditional ways of managing employees. All that said, I suspect what we call industrial relations, labour relations, or employee relations will vary depending on where you live. It isn't a hard and fast rule. This is like 'talent management,' which also doesn't have the most crystal clear definition! i hope that helps.
Am I able to make a complaint about how situations were handled at my former workplace?I believe it to be discrimination and they showed favoritism towards the other party.and eventually it lead to me being fired.is there any place I can take this too?I'm in Canada
Hi Norman. This sounds like such a difficult situation... If you were subject to discrimination on a protected ground... age, sexual orientation, gender, religious beliefs, etc, then you could file a human rights complaint. Each province's is slightly different so you would have to look that up searching human rights for your province. If you were NOT in a unionized environment and you did not sign off on a severance package, you could sue. Usually people hire a lawyer for this. It's quite a bit of trouble and expense. Consider the likelihood of success and if your energy is better spent moving on to your next opportunity. On the other hand, where would we be if no one stood up for their rights? It's a personal decision. I'm definitely not a lawyer and if you need better/more advice, contact an employment lawyer! It should really be an employment lawyer in your province - they'll quicky be able to understand your personal circumstances and provide specific advice.
Hi Emily. I am part of a firm that does a lot of labour relations. To make sure we are talking about the same thing... what do you mean by labour relations firm? You can also connect on LinkedIn and we can chat there. www.linkedin.com/in/andrea-adams1/
I'm scared my boss just called me and said I have to call this guy and said he is from the labor relation board. Is it bad or good? I'm nervous to call.
Hi Kyra. It's very hard to tell from this. A few things: - is the number they gave you within your own company? - If it's just regular labour relations then they usually call you. - Do you think it is an investigation into something you did? Or maybe you're a witness? I don't think holding off is likely to help much, but I get why it might be scary.
@@hrhubtalk no he just told me it's like a aduti they will ask me questions etc but he wasn't specific and idk if it something I did or didn't do. If I quit my job will something happen? Is there a email I can email you for more details. I'm scared I might get sue or whatever
@@kyra3937 Was that supposed to say 'audit'? And, if so... almost certainly nothing to worry about. Usually if it's about you they will be specific and tell you in advance. And it would be almost impossible to do anything to you if you quit your job. Unless it was criminal? But that seems unlikely. But don't quit before you find out unless it was something you were already planning!
@@hrhubtalk I see I'm still worried. I just don't want hate coming my way if I told them how I feel and what I feel that needs to be change etc. Because no matter what I say my manager never seem to care. I think that's why they summon a audit on me. I feel like they try to silence me. I did try to call the so call guy 5 times and he ain't answer so I left a voice mail. I asked my boss if it was good or bad he pause for a sec and laugh and said no. Makes me think it is bad. I just feel like I'm gonna get fired or worse. I'm not in a union. I'm a contract worker. I always stood up for myself and I guess my boss got tired of it. I think he to scared fire me or I stand up for myself again. I'm a good, honest, and hard worker. I think my boss got tired me always complaining how I do all the work while other people get to come in whenever they feel like it and don't work and make me do double the work load. I don't think it's fair how others can come in to work 1 to 3 hours late everyday and do nothing. People tells me all they do is play there Nintendo switch all day and only predent to work when my boss come to check on them and leave everything a mess for me. I believe it because the next morning I come in things still seem to look the way how I left it and stuff and or total mess. I tell my boss but he always covering for them. I even showed pictures my boss he doesn't seem to care. He just ignores me. Hard work never pays off.
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Thanks Vincent! I've shared this with Alex.
Hi am interested in labour relations so I will like to ask it's easier to found employment if I have National labour relation diploma nqf level 5 or Its must to have a labour relation management nqf level 8 ? I will appreciate your feedback.Thank you
@@vincentngobeni3413 Hi Vincent. I'm not familiar with this credential. Can you send a link? I expect that any credential will help and will show commitment to the field; however they aren't strictly required. So much of it is about getting your toe in the door!
This is needed information
Thanks Monica! I thought so too.
More please
Thanks @SiyamthandaSiya-cd5sb. Anything specific you are looking for? It would help me search for the right guest or at least ask helpful questions.
What is the difference between employee relations and industrial relations
Hi Priyankh.s Good question. I should do an episode on it. Labour/industrial relations almost always refers to managing employees in the context of unions and collective agreements. Employee relations loosely relates to activities of discipline and, I would suggest, managing attendance in a non-union environment. These are usually guided by policy not collective agreements. I hope that helps!
@@hrhubtalk IR is conflict focused whereas ER is collaboration focused and both have unionised people. How about this interpretation
Hi @@priyankh.s8379 I don't know about that interpretation. I don't think IR is conflict-focused. It's simply a relationship that is sometimes effective and sometimes not. In Canada it isn't a term that is used much anymore except at universities. 'Labour relations' is more common and refers to anything to do with unions. Employee relations is not, in my experience, collaboration-focused although there's no reason the processes couldn't be collaborative. It tends to refer more often to very traditional ways of managing employees. All that said, I suspect what we call industrial relations, labour relations, or employee relations will vary depending on where you live. It isn't a hard and fast rule. This is like 'talent management,' which also doesn't have the most crystal clear definition! i hope that helps.
Am I able to make a complaint about how situations were handled at my former workplace?I believe it to be discrimination and they showed favoritism towards the other party.and eventually it lead to me being fired.is there any place I can take this too?I'm in Canada
Hi Norman. This sounds like such a difficult situation... If you were subject to discrimination on a protected ground... age, sexual orientation, gender, religious beliefs, etc, then you could file a human rights complaint. Each province's is slightly different so you would have to look that up searching human rights for your province. If you were NOT in a unionized environment and you did not sign off on a severance package, you could sue. Usually people hire a lawyer for this. It's quite a bit of trouble and expense. Consider the likelihood of success and if your energy is better spent moving on to your next opportunity. On the other hand, where would we be if no one stood up for their rights? It's a personal decision. I'm definitely not a lawyer and if you need better/more advice, contact an employment lawyer! It should really be an employment lawyer in your province - they'll quicky be able to understand your personal circumstances and provide specific advice.
Can you please mention some of the activities in a labor relations firm
Hi Emily. I am part of a firm that does a lot of labour relations. To make sure we are talking about the same thing... what do you mean by labour relations firm? You can also connect on LinkedIn and we can chat there. www.linkedin.com/in/andrea-adams1/
I'm scared my boss just called me and said I have to call this guy and said he is from the labor relation board. Is it bad or good? I'm nervous to call.
Hi Kyra. It's very hard to tell from this. A few things:
- is the number they gave you within your own company?
- If it's just regular labour relations then they usually call you.
- Do you think it is an investigation into something you did? Or maybe you're a witness?
I don't think holding off is likely to help much, but I get why it might be scary.
@@hrhubtalk no he just told me it's like a aduti they will ask me questions etc but he wasn't specific and idk if it something I did or didn't do. If I quit my job will something happen? Is there a email I can email you for more details. I'm scared I might get sue or whatever
@@kyra3937 Was that supposed to say 'audit'? And, if so... almost certainly nothing to worry about. Usually if it's about you they will be specific and tell you in advance. And it would be almost impossible to do anything to you if you quit your job. Unless it was criminal? But that seems unlikely. But don't quit before you find out unless it was something you were already planning!
@@hrhubtalk I see I'm still worried. I just don't want hate coming my way if I told them how I feel and what I feel that needs to be change etc. Because no matter what I say my manager never seem to care. I think that's why they summon a audit on me. I feel like they try to silence me. I did try to call the so call guy 5 times and he ain't answer so I left a voice mail. I asked my boss if it was good or bad he pause for a sec and laugh and said no. Makes me think it is bad. I just feel like I'm gonna get fired or worse. I'm not in a union. I'm a contract worker. I always stood up for myself and I guess my boss got tired of it. I think he to scared fire me or I stand up for myself again. I'm a good, honest, and hard worker. I think my boss got tired me always complaining how I do all the work while other people get to come in whenever they feel like it and don't work and make me do double the work load. I don't think it's fair how others can come in to work 1 to 3 hours late everyday and do nothing. People tells me all they do is play there Nintendo switch all day and only predent to work when my boss come to check on them and leave everything a mess for me. I believe it because the next morning I come in things still seem to look the way how I left it and stuff and or total mess. I tell my boss but he always covering for them. I even showed pictures my boss he doesn't seem to care. He just ignores me. Hard work never pays off.
@@kyra3937 Lots of stuff going on. I hope it works out. Please reach out on LinkedIn too!