@ @wairworthy That is wild, love your videos! Could you explain in a video why you chose this engine and give more information on pros cons of this versus competitors?
The Italian C.202 Folgore had asymmetrical wingspan as well as slightly offset rudder to accommodate the p-factor of the aircraft which made it allegedly really easy to fly for novice pilots
He didn't say he didn't know about the P-factor, he just didn't realize the engine would be offset due to the P-factor which I also wouldn't have thought of since it's only apparent at high angles of attack and didn't think they mounted engines to account for it. There's plenty of left turning tendencies that my plane is designed to reduce, I just wouldn't have thought P-factor was one of them
When I first got into rc planes I found this out too! A $1200 rc plane came with a “bent” prop and I was pissed. It’s funny that it’s the same for real planes
So we're taught about P-Factor/Torque forces pretty early on and its contribution to left turning tendencies. Essentially in high power operations you need more and more right rudder to keep the yaw axis aligned with your direction of travel. It was pretty shocking to me as well when I saw the cowling removed to see just how much angle is included in the design process to help counter balance the forces at play - so you maintain control authority without bottoming out the rudders.
oh wow. ive seen a couple of your videos pop up in my feed before but never realized you were out of St. George. just moved out of st george but that was a nice little airport!
You're so totally full of ****. I'm so done with comments like this in the GA community. Many (if not most) single engine aircraft compensate for this through rudder trim, a tilt in the vertical stabilizer, or both, rather than the front. This includes the 172 that most people train on, and so wouldn't be exposed to this. I'm sure you know that though. Most of us know it. I find most people who make comments like the one above, to be terrifyingly bad pilots in person, and are doing nothing but making up for their insecurities by calling other people unsafe. There's a certain psychology that goes along with it, especially prevalent in puppy mills.
I am sitting here as the video starts thinking, how could that mistake have happened, and as it was explained it appears top make perfect sense. Of course before he said it I had no clue.
6.4L, 210hp. Doesn't get much more 'murican than that (Yes, i know it's low revving, overbuilt af, it has to be certified, and everything else; it's still kinda funny that it makes so little power with so much displacement)
Bro you're telling me you were building a freaking airplane yet had no idea what p-factor was I've played video games to figure out what p factor is it's pretty obvious when you have centrifugal force leading one way you're going to have roll going the opposite direction
Fully aware of p-factor. It’s not that common for engine mounts to have this dramatic of an angle to compensate for it. It quite literally looks like the engine is hanging out of the side of the airplane. Fortunately the cowling covers up the awkwardness ha.
Okay so my school has a Beechcraft Musketeer that was donated to us. It’s suupppeerr dirty and old and might possibly fly agian but I swear to you these two air planes have the same Lycoming Engine
😂 Engineers and their overly complicated quests for taming gentle forces like P-factor. P-factor can be defeated with trim setting, and using the rudder pedals, an offset engine mount is not necessary. Just so we are clear, the C180, C185, beaver, and Otter are all certified to take off with external loads like a boat or ATV hanging off the one side, and the C180 does it without an adjustable rudder trim.
What?!!!? I live in St George…. We might need to be friends. I’m going to start school at SUU this summer in their aviation program… do you want a friend? 😂
P-factor is caused by the rotation of the blades. The descending blade has a greater angle of attack than the ascending blade which generates more force on that side
Nope! What you’re talking about is spiraling slip stream. P factor is caused by the descending blade having a greater angle of attack than the ascending blade
I’m fully aware what p-factor is but it’s not common for airplanes to have an offset engine. Let alone this large of an angle in the engine mount. The cowling is large and it’s not noticeable when you look at it. Also, their engine mount documentation isn’t great. So it wasn’t something a builder would know about until the install. But let’s be real, I also have no business building an airplane 😂
I do find it amazing you did not know this? Heck I learned this with the first radio controlled plane I built. It is very basic physics. It may be worth your time to do some studying and reading on areodynamics, flight controls, plane building and much more before continuing. This way you will not be getting more surprises. The more you know the easier they build will go. I at least hope you know why you have three wheels right? But then I have to think you are just fooling with the viewers of your video as there is no way this is real.
This is a $60K engine!
Yup, costs more than the airframe kit costs. She’s gonna pack a punch, though!
Please can you explain what merits the price point? Is it hand built?
@henrybuss5994 it's a FAA certified engine so it's twice more expensive by default.
@ @wairworthy That is wild, love your videos! Could you explain in a video why you chose this engine and give more information on pros cons of this versus competitors?
He already did @@gamepenguin9
If you think that's off center, wait until you see the Mi-24 front facing haha
That beast looks like somebody designed half in metric and half in imperial
Curse you I had almost forgot that. Wait till you see the panzer 4 turret it's slightly out of line with the middle of the tank
@razorgaming2758 oh man now you also reminded me about the turret cheeks on the Abrams haha
@@Ramentheawsomewait until you see the btd1 tail
@@yeetus4868 That's a hideous asymmetry. You've ruined my whole evening.
I’m surprised you didn’t know this before building an airplane
Being able to afford a lycoming is wildly separate from knowing why you bought it.
Shorts creators make a habit of playing the role of the common fool to ensure their content is easily digestible.
Torque compensation, flying paramotors is the same way with the offset.
Yeah, I mean this is even super common in like model RC
It’s like the first few pages of the flight training manual.
True facts. Even my rc airplane build had the motor on an angle.
Bro is building a plane without even knowing about p factor lmao
Find it a bit odd as well. I even know about it and I only fly rc planes
He knows about p-factor. But seeing the motor mount does seem like a manufacturing defect. The camera isn't doing it justice
@@slayer66thfc offsetting to ocunter the p factor is genuis. daring too and the reason why it took a special type to build the fist ones
Yeah pathetic
Dude, loving this journey! In the market for an RV6-A, but you’re really giving me airplane envy…
The deep voice caught me so off guard lmao
seeing this all come together is crazy
the second he mention the mount was "miss aligned" i knew exactly what he was going to say
You need an intel core i5 sticker on it
i9 for sure, bro
@@wairworthymake it run 9× better
"Windows 7 inside"
@Guy_Salol please not Windows! It'll crash!
I'd be scared to put the plane on a trailer. What if it takes off?😂
Without wings it should be fine
Hwat did you just say
Is this supposed to be a joke
@@Radarguidedmissiles9 it would either take off or act like a spoiler and give you down force to corner faster.
You do know that an airplane only flies because of the lift under the wings right 😂 has nothing to do with the engine!
I like the honda Engine option for this aircraft.
Thanks! I love ur vids!
Damn, I am really liking this journey! Can't wait to see it conquer the skies lol
I wanna check this thing out! I live in Hurricane and have been watching you for a while, i’m excited to see it in the air!
The Zeneith 750 Sky Jeep is a good light Sport aircraft. 15 feet and take off! It's better with a Rotec 915 turbo engine.
I learned that when i was 7. Always liked modell planes:D
Your just messing with us, right?
Looks like one of those airplanes that are in front of Wal-Mart for kiddies to ride
Yes. Unless you have contra rotating prop like soviet helis or japanese late war fighter
average war thunder fun facts video
That offset is torque compensation
You should come visit the flight school in cedar! All of the maintenance students here watch your vids!
Are pushrods more reliable or is ohc engines not certified for air?
The Italian C.202 Folgore had asymmetrical wingspan as well as slightly offset rudder to accommodate the p-factor of the aircraft which made it allegedly really easy to fly for novice pilots
Do you know the angle value ? You have two angles, one for P factor and the other one negative to avoid correcting your trim when you apply power.
Is there any coding you have to do yourself for the plane?
I realized that with my model plane aswell, thought something was off since the engine axis was so misaligned but it flew perfectly
What's the hp and thrust to weight ratio with that engine?
215hp and .68 hp per lb
the cyberplane
The fact that you had no idea of the p factor just makes me worry about the "engineering" behind
He didn't say he didn't know about the P-factor, he just didn't realize the engine would be offset due to the P-factor which I also wouldn't have thought of since it's only apparent at high angles of attack and didn't think they mounted engines to account for it. There's plenty of left turning tendencies that my plane is designed to reduce, I just wouldn't have thought P-factor was one of them
When I first got into rc planes I found this out too! A $1200 rc plane came with a “bent” prop and I was pissed. It’s funny that it’s the same for real planes
RC plane is a real plane it's just scale
if you want the engine mount to be straight just use a counter rotating engine!(cheap mod)
HOLY SHIT THE PLANE HAS AN ENGINE! LET’S GO!
Piper Tomahawks are noticeably off-center also
So are Cessna caravans and PC12s.
That’s pretty cool, I’ve been eyeing balling these for awhile, but none up in Yukon.
So when you installing the synchronisation gear so you dont shoot your prop?
Good luck man
So we're taught about P-Factor/Torque forces pretty early on and its contribution to left turning tendencies. Essentially in high power operations you need more and more right rudder to keep the yaw axis aligned with your direction of travel.
It was pretty shocking to me as well when I saw the cowling removed to see just how much angle is included in the design process to help counter balance the forces at play - so you maintain control authority without bottoming out the rudders.
How many crashes have happened this year?
oh wow. ive seen a couple of your videos pop up in my feed before but never realized you were out of St. George. just moved out of st george but that was a nice little airport!
I don't even own a plane and I knew this.
As a pilot it concerns me you didn’t know about the offset engine angle.
I'm not a pilot, but seeing enough videos, I knew why. Scares me too, knowing he could by flying that thing over innocent folks.
When you're building something yourself you always double check with real doubt especially with your own money
You're so totally full of ****. I'm so done with comments like this in the GA community. Many (if not most) single engine aircraft compensate for this through rudder trim, a tilt in the vertical stabilizer, or both, rather than the front. This includes the 172 that most people train on, and so wouldn't be exposed to this. I'm sure you know that though. Most of us know it. I find most people who make comments like the one above, to be terrifyingly bad pilots in person, and are doing nothing but making up for their insecurities by calling other people unsafe. There's a certain psychology that goes along with it, especially prevalent in puppy mills.
You guys ever think he's trolling to get views and interaction in the comments
@@SHAGG13 Thank you, yes. Some people are unfortunately unable to process humor
That shape Looks like a cybertruck😅
im not even a pilot and even i knew this
If you don't know what P-factor is you probably shouldn't be building a plane.
I'm getting so excited!
I am sitting here as the video starts thinking, how could that mistake have happened, and as it was explained it appears top make perfect sense. Of course before he said it I had no clue.
(Basically its from the prop pushing air onto the vertical stab)
I’m pretty sure you’re joking. If not, I don’t think I’d ride in that plane.
He's trolling the commentors.
Are you cutting the panel to fit it? Surely anything is going to mess with the aerodynamics right?
I used to live in Cedar City!
i hang a little crooked due to P-Factor as well.
That's a lot of snort for a zenith...lol
Hey man what if at the end of you journey you make an long video about it that sounds great?
6.4L, 210hp. Doesn't get much more 'murican than that
(Yes, i know it's low revving, overbuilt af, it has to be certified, and everything else; it's still kinda funny that it makes so little power with so much displacement)
Just like the good ol days
Sometimes, when I wake my p facror drags to the right as well.
IO390???
Is that a Zenair or a helicopter?
Made that way! " P factor" your mount is off set to counter this. You dont know what your doing.
Wow, my car had the same engine.
Cool Subaru
Cyber truck plane 💪🏻😎
I am glad i watched that one zack d vid
I am just really excited to see the full plane. I don't know why
Bro you're telling me you were building a freaking airplane yet had no idea what p-factor was I've played video games to figure out what p factor is it's pretty obvious when you have centrifugal force leading one way you're going to have roll going the opposite direction
And as a carpenter I experience it everyday with impact drills.
Fully aware of p-factor. It’s not that common for engine mounts to have this dramatic of an angle to compensate for it. It quite literally looks like the engine is hanging out of the side of the airplane. Fortunately the cowling covers up the awkwardness ha.
@@dantracy9009also, it sounds like you’re referencing torque. P-factor comes from the propeller and creates a yawing effect. Torque creates a roll.
Why did you not put on a rotax 916is
Have you ever seen italian ww2 planes? Oh man the wings are not the same length D;
after washin crssh i think it's gonna have a hard time flying
Okay so my school has a Beechcraft Musketeer that was donated to us. It’s suupppeerr dirty and old and might possibly fly agian but I swear to you these two air planes have the same Lycoming Engine
I doubt it
Reduces pucker factor?
Honestly if your building your own plane this shouldn't be an issue. Who are you gonna call in an inverted stall cause you have no idea?
Contra Rotating props are better!!!!!
Cute that you didn't know that. 😂
is that a flat four?
*DUDE, I'M WARNING YOU NOW, QUIT WHILE YOU'RE AHEAD. IF YOU CAN'T UNDERSTAND BASIC ENGINEERING, YOU HAVE NO BUSINESS FLYING A PLANE.*
😂 Engineers and their overly complicated quests for taming gentle forces like P-factor. P-factor can be defeated with trim setting, and using the rudder pedals, an offset engine mount is not necessary.
Just so we are clear, the C180, C185, beaver, and Otter are all certified to take off with external loads like a boat or ATV hanging off the one side, and the C180 does it without an adjustable rudder trim.
60k and it has pushrods 😢
How to anyone working on a plane not know this?????
What?!!!? I live in St George…. We might need to be friends. I’m going to start school at SUU this summer in their aviation program… do you want a friend? 😂
Brother, if you didn’t know that going in what else don’t you know
Confidently telling.
P-factor is caused by the rotation of the blades. The descending blade has a greater angle of attack than the ascending blade which generates more force on that side
Nope! What you’re talking about is spiraling slip stream. P factor is caused by the descending blade having a greater angle of attack than the ascending blade
@ oh yeah, oops
I hate myself
Okay 👍
Why?
🎉
Cyber plane?
Lycoming is definitely best engine
There is nothing unique about this problem.
Somebody not knowing such basic things maybe shouldn't build an airplane to begin with...
👇How saw the first video about this airplane
these is awesome
Very cool.
Let's go new video
Hey I live in St. George
Good
I’m guessing this was done for clicks. Because if you didn’t know about that from the start. You really have no business building a plane.
I’m fully aware what p-factor is but it’s not common for airplanes to have an offset engine. Let alone this large of an angle in the engine mount. The cowling is large and it’s not noticeable when you look at it. Also, their engine mount documentation isn’t great. So it wasn’t something a builder would know about until the install.
But let’s be real, I also have no business building an airplane 😂
Bro is BUILDING airplane not knowing bout P factor 😭😭😭
Bro I beg u dont fly this plane, ur going to crash for sure 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Is this rage bait?
I do find it amazing you did not know this? Heck I learned this with the first radio controlled plane I built. It is very basic physics. It may be worth your time to do some studying and reading on areodynamics, flight controls, plane building and much more before continuing. This way you will not be getting more surprises. The more you know the easier they build will go. I at least hope you know why you have three wheels right? But then I have to think you are just fooling with the viewers of your video as there is no way this is real.
When I saw that my first thought was “P factor”
Torgue