Ok, here is a correction, people. That's Not Devil Z. It's Black Zarak. Devil Z takes control of him towards the end of the series. Black Zarak is the rebuild form of Megazarak. Devil Z captured him and brainwashed him into doing his bidding. Scorponok is somewhere in his chest and never emerges. Back Zarak is powerful, but when Devil Z possesses him, his power levels go through the roof.
A lot of people mistook Grand Maximus for Fortress Maximus. Although they were voiced by the same person Ikuya Sawaki, Grand was Fortress’ younger brother. He was one of the diminutive bots who fled Cybertron alongside with his brother, Chromedome and the other Headmasters to Planet Master where they developed their Headmaster capabilities. Both bothers built their own Maximus battleships which serves as their transactors. The only difference is that while Fortress stayed behind to build the Master Sword, Grand left Master and joined forces with Metalhawk and his group thus learning the art of Pretender disguising. That was why Grand was never seen in the Headmasters saga. He rejoined his brother after the Headmasters saga and was sent by Fortress to aid the Earthbound Autobots under the command of Ginrai and Metalhawk to deal with Devil Z and the Decepticons under his command.
I like how primes helmet becomes like a ceremonial headpiece as time goes on in the Japanese G1 continuity, by the time of bwii basically all the big wigs have it
@@christopherbravo1813Not exactly. This body was built to be a potential new body for Convoy eventually. But it's not his hollowed out corpse. Big difference.
So... Why is God Ginrai the same height as a Titan? Siege Optimus doesn't reach the top of GS Black Zarak's knee, and the Black Zarak toy is a bit undersized for scale.
Grand Maximus is designed to function as a spaceship for a crew of humans unlike his older brother who is designed to house full sized transformers, so in anime Grand Maximus is much smaller than Fortress Maximus. And it's Grand Maximus, not Brave Maximus.
Not true. Grand Maximus IS Fortress Maximus just like Ginrai IS Convoy. That's who those characters are originally meant to be. When the series was fully animated the producers decided to cut off ties with any previous continuity, redubbed the whole thing much like Harmony Gold redubbed SDF Macross to make Robotech and made the God Masters actual humans. The truth is they are souls of fallen Transformers reincarnated into human bodies thanks to a procedure created by Fortress before he got smashed to pieces by Black Zarak. That is why God Masters can use Chokon Power which is the combination of a Transformers Soul, organic body (Earth) and mechanical lifeform (Air). After his spaceship was destroyed by Zarak, Chromedome took leadership of the Autobots and Maximus was reanimated when Ginrai transformed for the first time in Super Convoy against King Poseidon and the Grand ship was built. It's by no means meant to be smaller than the original Fortress ship. Sizes in Masterforce shift continuosly for no reason. In one shot God Ginrai is almost the same size as Lightfoot and in the next he is a mountain with the Godmasters barely reaching HIS TOE. The brothers stuff and body for Convoy in episode 43 were retconned because no one could understand anything of the stupid new plot that they made to ruin the show.
It is true. They may have initially in the early pre-production planned something different, but with what the series ended up becoming, that is how it is.
Ginrai is not Optimus prime ( Convoy ). The US version brought back Optimus, that's why the G1 splits, and Japan gets Masterforce. In Japan Convoy was gone forever.
Hmm, they are right on Facebook transformers, g1 worldwide fans after I posted the pic and name of brave maximus, then commenter's say the name wrong it's grand maximus and that's means you have the name wrong too
I do like this time Ginrai vs Overlord was way more of a threat with GodBomber power, the armor and missile launcher. Considering last time Super Ginrai vs Overlord, Overlord stomped Ginrai BADLY!
Noah Juarez that’s because his body was intended for Optimus Prime after he died (again) in the Headmasters cartoon, but a human called Ginrai found it and combined with it
Nope, that is actually not Scorpinok, the real one that was featured in HM is not this one : D It is also why they are so small, both Brave maximus or Black Zarak. Because they are simply not fortress maximus or Scorponok.
Which one? There are many of them, both Japanese and American, very different. If you are talking about the G1, they were also made in collaboration with the Japanese.
@@hereticalfencing2514 The US G1 cartoon was a collaboration with the Japanese, but only in terms of the animation for Season 1, most of Season 2, The Movie, and half of Season 3. The scripts were written by Sunbow, a US production company. Toei's writing style for Japanese G1 was different, more in line with other mecha animes.
Ok, here is a correction, people. That's Not Devil Z. It's Black Zarak. Devil Z takes control of him towards the end of the series. Black Zarak is the rebuild form of Megazarak. Devil Z captured him and brainwashed him into doing his bidding. Scorponok is somewhere in his chest and never emerges. Back Zarak is powerful, but when Devil Z possesses him, his power levels go through the roof.
Skorponok survives this show and appears in Zone with a new Black Zarak transtector so that's cool
@kaisipe412
He actually was resurrected along with the combines in Zone by Violen.
ginrai has these weapons attached to his body, but he keeps forgetting to use them
I don't remember seeing him using the shoulder cannons when he is Super Ginrai that then become leg cannons when he becomes God Ginrai.
Remember and knowledge Applied
And now you can recreate the scene with legends god ginrai , grand maximus , titans overlord and selects black zarak
they are all in "scale" for sure :D
@@howareu4549 Yeah, you have to resort to 3rd party versions if you want the show's scales.
A lot of people mistook Grand Maximus for Fortress Maximus. Although they were voiced by the same person Ikuya Sawaki, Grand was Fortress’ younger brother. He was one of the diminutive bots who fled Cybertron alongside with his brother, Chromedome and the other Headmasters to Planet Master where they developed their Headmaster capabilities. Both bothers built their own Maximus battleships which serves as their transactors. The only difference is that while Fortress stayed behind to build the Master Sword, Grand left Master and joined forces with Metalhawk and his group thus learning the art of Pretender disguising. That was why Grand was never seen in the Headmasters saga. He rejoined his brother after the Headmasters saga and was sent by Fortress to aid the Earthbound Autobots under the command of Ginrai and Metalhawk to deal with Devil Z and the Decepticons under his command.
honestly I think I'd prefer if Grand was just Fortress under a different name.
I like how primes helmet becomes like a ceremonial headpiece as time goes on in the Japanese G1 continuity, by the time of bwii basically all the big wigs have it
I mean, if I'm not mistaken, Ginrai is pretty much piloting Optimus Prime's *hollowed-out corpse.*
@@christopherbravo1813Not exactly.
This body was built to be a potential new body for Convoy eventually.
But it's not his hollowed out corpse.
Big difference.
8:31 *big ass headless robot getting up to fly off* "don't forget this" ...yeah i dont think i can
yeah, where is the head...
I think I can count the total frames of animation in this scene on my hands and feet.
Now I want a Masterpiece Black Zarak figure to happen! Good thing we are getting a Masterpiece Overlord later this year.
Except we're not? not even unofficially
Actually we are getting a Titans Overlord along with slightly tooled pmop as Ginrai
cannonfodder4000 pfft, don’t you see that mastermind creations made one?
Maketoys devil stinger, masterpiece black zerak figure worth every cent
Fans Hobby Overlord, it is huge, andd very detailed (15 inches) which is only the MINIMUM! the maximum i saw is 18 or 19 inches
一発で決まる時と決まらない時の差がありすぎるトランスフォーマー
Totally Classic and Iconic people. Thanks.
ブラックザラックは何体ものトランスフォーマーたちが生活できるレベルの基地サイズのはず。そしてそれとグランドマキシマスがサイズが一緒で描かれていて、それと大差ないゴッドジンライ。でもジンライのサイズは、その最初に挙げたトランスフォーマーたちと大差ないサイズのはず、・・・とサイズが矛盾しまくるマスターフォースでしたｗ（初代からだけどｗ）
ちっ！司令官の大事な名言セリフを編集で削ってるやねーか！
So... Why is God Ginrai the same height as a Titan?
Siege Optimus doesn't reach the top of GS Black Zarak's knee, and the Black Zarak toy is a bit undersized for scale.
Skorponok and Fortess (now Grand) rebuilt their transtector with energy efficiency in mind, so built them small
I REALLY APRECIATE THE HEAD MASTER ERA.
Transformers collector since 1985.
サイズ感が絶対的におかしい‼️😎
Why are Brave Maximus and Black Zarak so small?
GRAND Maximus TFS shift their sizes in this series more than in any other G1.
Grand Maximus is designed to function as a spaceship for a crew of humans unlike his older brother who is designed to house full sized transformers, so in anime Grand Maximus is much smaller than Fortress Maximus.
And it's Grand Maximus, not Brave Maximus.
Not true. Grand Maximus IS Fortress Maximus just like Ginrai IS Convoy. That's who those characters are originally meant to be. When the series was fully animated the producers decided to cut off ties with any previous continuity, redubbed the whole thing much like Harmony Gold redubbed SDF Macross to make Robotech and made the God Masters actual humans. The truth is they are souls of fallen Transformers reincarnated into human bodies thanks to a procedure created by Fortress before he got smashed to pieces by Black Zarak. That is why God Masters can use Chokon Power which is the combination of a Transformers Soul, organic body (Earth) and mechanical lifeform (Air). After his spaceship was destroyed by Zarak, Chromedome took leadership of the Autobots and Maximus was reanimated when Ginrai transformed for the first time in Super Convoy against King Poseidon and the Grand ship was built. It's by no means meant to be smaller than the original Fortress ship. Sizes in Masterforce shift continuosly for no reason. In one shot God Ginrai is almost the same size as Lightfoot and in the next he is a mountain with the Godmasters barely reaching HIS TOE. The brothers stuff and body for Convoy in episode 43 were retconned because no one could understand anything of the stupid new plot that they made to ruin the show.
It is true. They may have initially in the early pre-production planned something different, but with what the series ended up becoming, that is how it is.
It's as much true as the crew of the SDF1 is all dead and the SDF2 was burried behind it.
GRAND MAX is the son ...of FORTRESS . he is suppose to be smaller in size
Not son but brother
Same character actually
@@kaisipe412 No
reselling stocks last year?
Its Ginrai Not Girai
also known as Optimus Prime and Fortress Maximus vs Overlord and Zarak rematch
Ginrai is not Optimus prime ( Convoy ). The US version brought back Optimus, that's why the G1 splits, and Japan gets Masterforce. In Japan Convoy was gone forever.
@@migovas1483 putting "Return of Convoy" aside for the moment, I am well aware that this isn't *actually* Optimus Prime.
"It ends here ginrai!"
Edit: When did I write this??
Optimus Prime Matrix of Leadership Transform ( 🎶)
Cool robot
Who’s the emperor they’re talking about at 3:22 ?
Devil Z the energy being
Hmm, they are right on Facebook transformers, g1 worldwide fans after I posted the pic and name of brave maximus, then commenter's say the name wrong it's grand maximus and that's means you have the name wrong too
This version is the best
What is the song?
I do like this time Ginrai vs Overlord was way more of a threat with GodBomber power, the armor and missile launcher.
Considering last time Super Ginrai vs Overlord, Overlord stomped Ginrai BADLY!
Great battle, Ginrais is the boss.
When I first looked at Ginrai, he looks like Optimus Prime.
Noah Juarez that’s because his body was intended for Optimus Prime after he died (again) in the Headmasters cartoon, but a human called Ginrai found it and combined with it
so, Scorpinok looks different... (that is Scorpinok right? it don't watch this kind of stuff)
yeah they just call him zarak in japan
Nope, that is actually not Scorpinok, the real one that was featured in HM is not this one : D
It is also why they are so small, both Brave maximus or Black Zarak.
Because they are simply not fortress maximus or Scorponok.
Terminator X it's called himself Black Zarak!
Skorponok and his Mega Zarak transtector were defeated, so he built Black Zarak as a replacement
グランドマキシマスとブレイブマキシマスは別モンw
後ろから狙い撃ちとかサイバトロン汚いw
8:20 ...I REALLY know I shouldn't but...
WHY IS HE ON FIRE IN SPACE!? XD
Anime logic
Play it on 1.5 speed. Much better.
And here i thought i was the only one doing that
devil z is blackzarak?
+원민기
yes (devil z possessed blackzarak)
At this point he is not, but after this Devil Z will take over Black Zarak body.
Finally...
マスターフォースのサイバトロン対デストロンのリーダー同士。
マキシマムもブラックザラックも巨大要塞だったのにゴッドジンライサイズに小さくなって子供心に違和感ありまくりで嫌だった。
its grand maximus not brave maximus
Joseph and Jotaro vs Dio
Dio and his stand
Soo god ginrai and overlord are titan size?
Grand Maximus? Pensé que era Fortress Maximus
Ese es su hermano.
He rebuilt himself as a pretender and took a new name
Grando maximus!!!
Yo quiero toda esta saga de los transformer
No te pierdes de mucho, es bastante difícil ver la serie sin que levante la ceja en mas de una ocasión.
Black Zarak he ever was decapitated
God
Fire
Guts!!
GRAND MAXIMUS !!!! not BRAVE MAX !
ゴッドジンライ VS オーバーロード
グランドマキシマス VS ブラックザラック
Grand maximus, not brave! 😅
Black Zarak was sure the brother of Mega Zarak from Headmasters anime
It's the same character, after his Scorponok body got destroyed he was rebuilt into Black Zarak without the Head Master feature.
@@Hektols actually Skorponok is controlling Black Zarak from the "bridge"
This is not fair Fight for Optimus Prime 😤
This isn't Optimus Prime. This is God Ginrai. They are two different characters.
It'S optimus Prime 🤣🤣
@@simoneted2 nope. The body was built for Optimus but Ginrai accidentally bonded to it
If this body was under Optimus Prime's control he'd destroy Overload with ease.
This is real Transformers!! Movie crap!!
The movies are at least somewhat good. Energon was horrible!
transformers the movie had the best animation
@@ratbat1072 I think what he said was BAYFORMERS... not Transformers the movie from G1 era
@@kingmegatron7974 no energon is perfect due to some cool characters. Just autobots and decepticons better than humans.
8:05
タイラントスピア
Not in USA Version.
ゲドー「ヘヘヘ,ゴッドジンライか……俺達ワルガイヤ最高の獲物だぜ!」
ヒドー「奴を倒せば,俺達の名が格上げするかもな,ケケケ!」
マドー「我等ワルガイヤの恐ろしさを思い知るが良い,ゴッドジンライ!」
안다
Japan shouldn't be allowed to do transformers. Why did he do a kamehameha?
Evil racist you are, they originally created transformers
Why shouldn't they? Transformers came from Japan so what you said is nonsensical.
@@miyako1909 the toys did. Transformers is an American creation
@@stethespaniard2well the Original Transfomer figures in the G1 Line Actually were imported From Japan in their Diaclone Line in 1983 Your point?
@ yes but transformers is an American creation. Japan may have made the toys but the characters and the lore has nothing to do with them
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The U.S. version is better. Sorry...
Which one? There are many of them, both Japanese and American, very different.
If you are talking about the G1, they were also made in collaboration with the Japanese.
@@hereticalfencing2514 The US G1 cartoon was a collaboration with the Japanese, but only in terms of the animation for Season 1, most of Season 2, The Movie, and half of Season 3. The scripts were written by Sunbow, a US production company. Toei's writing style for Japanese G1 was different, more in line with other mecha animes.
So, instead of coherent plot, good animation and character development, you want "oTtObAtS rUl AuT"?
You have bad taste
@@lukamalesic7858 G1 has A LOT of plot holes, and a lot of characters in season 2 came of out of nowhere with no explanation lmao
This is not Transformers as I know it as a culture this some other shit.
this is Transformers Super God Masterforce
Try to educate yourself before saying stupid thing.
@@miyako1909 I said as I know it, read before posting a stupid reply. And I know that is god masterforce but its lame.
Wow this is terrible.